Chuggers now doing door to door???

skibum

Bad enough trying to avoid these f+ckers on the streets but now the annoying b4st4rd5 are doing door to door! Just had the pleasure of one very persistent collector, politely told him it was not a good time but he wouldn't take no for an answer :rolleyes:

Jimbo

Makes sense.
Charity begins at home.

AckwelFoley

Cool
my days of wandering the streets lookin 4 my next victim are soon over.

funk-you

skibum wrote: »

Bad enough trying to avoid these f+ckers on the streets but now the annoying b4st4rd5 are doing door to door! Just had the pleasure of one very persistent collector, politely told him it was not a good time but he wouldn't take no for an answer :rolleyes:

If it happens again, don't say anything. Get your coat and walk really close to him all evening 'til he gets home. Ring the doorbell and ask him for a cup of sugar.

-Funk

taidghbaby

answer your door with one of these ready to throm in future:

anonymous_joe

Think a brown snake would be just the teensiest bit harsh.

Wertz

*readies the boiling oil*

I swear I'll shove their clipboard up their hole for them if anyone bothers me at home...it's bad enough with f8ckers trying to sell you something...

antodeco

Tell him you'll go get your bank details, but need to close over the door incase the dogs gets out. Leave him standing there, after 5 minutes open the door and say "Hang on, the missus just threw a load of my statements out. Think i have one upstairs." Wait another 5 minutes, open the door "nah, none up there. let me ring my parents who know what they are." 5 minutes later come back and say "nah, they dont have them, but are heading around to the bank manager (friends of them), and they will ring me back in around 15 minutes". Ask him to call back then, and then repeat the whole process again

anonymous_joe

If it happens, why not ask them to wait for a second while you check your account details or whatever, then just shut the door and see how long they wait for you. Make a game of it.

taidghbaby

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Think a brown snake would be just the teensiest bit harsh.

well he/she wouldnt call again would they??

KnifeWRENCH

PLAN A: Release the hounds.

PLAN B: If you don't have hounds, then have a copy of "The Watchtower" beside your door. Don't give them a chance to speak, just start rambling on about Jehovahs Witnesses and try to convert them.

PLAN C: Just tell 'em to **** off. That's what I'd do (unless it was an attractive female with a foreign accent, in which case I'd probably end up handing her the deed to the house and my parents bank details)

Sherifu

*Slams door*

skibum

The muppet was from barnardos, after our little chat I shut the door, he stood there for a few seconds with out moving, I thought the arsehole was going to ring the bell again, probably the worst thing he would have done tonight given the humour I was in

fitz0

funk-you wrote: »

If it happens again, don't say anything. Get your coat and walk really close to him all evening 'til he gets home. Ring the doorbell and ask him for a cup of sugar.

-Funk

lol brilliant!

robinph

I only answer the door if I've ordered a pizza or similar, otherwise I just ignore the doorbell as it's not going to be anything of interest to me.

connundrum

skibum wrote: »

The muppet was from barnardos, after our little chat I shut the door, he stood there for a few seconds with out moving, I thought the arsehole was going to ring the bell again, probably the worst thing he would have done tonight given the humour I was in

No love for the children then, ey!

Didn't think this was a recent phenomenon, I've had people calling to the door looking for money for nowt for ages.. oh no, that was the TV licence inspector

Earthhorse

Interesting Historical Tidbit #50609: Chuggers actually started life going door to door. That's how they knabbed me. So really, they're just going back to their roots.

OPENROAD

My doorbell did not work for years, finally got around to fixing it, a decision I now regret

vektarman

robinph wrote: »

I only answer the door if I've ordered a pizza or similar, otherwise I just ignore the doorbell as it's not going to be anything of interest to me.

I had a dilemma recently, my pizza was delivered by a Jehovahs witness, hunger won!

Mossy Monk

robinph wrote: »

I only answer the door if I've ordered a pizza or similar, otherwise I just ignore the doorbell as it's not going to be anything of interest to me.

A system that works perfectly. I answer the door for nobody. If someone wants me they can call me on the phone.

FX Meister

it's not that hard to say no thanks and close the door. They aint the mafia. Sure it's annoying to have to open it in the first place but you excepahre is good for you

Peared

FX Meister wrote: »

it's not that hard to say no thanks and close the door. They aint the mafia. Sure it's annoying to have to open it in the first place but you excepahre is good for you

This is what I do. I just do it before they get to open their mouths.

Most shrug and move off in fairness.

jhegarty

Mossy Monk wrote: »

A system that works perfectly. I answer the door for nobody. If someone wants me they can call me on the phone.

just as long as they don't use private number

Ruu_Old

Smithers, release the hounds.

6ix

Had this happen recently for the first time. I politely told him I already have a Direct Debit to a charity (which I do) and I wasn't interested in setting up another one.

He responded by saying "oh sure we're all doing lots of good things nowadays, I'm sure you can manage another one, it's 80 cents a day".

I had to say it three times before the sarcastic w*nker went away. I'm normally very polite to these people on the streets, but I was about five seconds from exploding with him. Deaf children in the third world was the cause, I don't know the name of the charity.

robinph

jhegarty wrote: »

just as long as they don't use private number

Generally don't bother answering the land line phone either as whenever I have done someone is trying to sell me something. Only have the land line for the purposes of phoning eircom to complain when there is a problem with the broadband.

6ix

I suppose it depends on your lifestyle, but I'd find it odd to never answer the door. Does nobody in your life ever call unannounced? Or must they always make an appointment to see you?

Peared

I actually experience mild panic when the doorbell rings unexpectedly.

Along the lines of 'who's dead, the house is a state, is it a beggar, f*ck tv licence man, am i dressed'

Phone in advance people, phone in advance.

robinph

People either wouldn't call unannounced/ don't know where I live/ live in a different country.

I did forget one other case where I may sometimes answer the door though and that would be if the postman has a parcel for me. But they seem to be too lazy these days to bother bringing the parcels on the rounds with them and just stick the cards through the door for me to pick up at the sorting office instead.

Pen1987

Ive done this job in the past and you would not realise how much good work these companies are doing for charity, while I was there 4 people raised 100'000 euro in two weeks for an MS chairty.

Someone mentioned Deaf kids, that charity is Deaf Child Worldwide, its a really good cause, 60c a day 18e a month...

When I did it I actively avoided annoying people, I'd get a no, accept it and give a little more detail, if I got one more no I say thanks and move on. There were people in the office who were far to pushy in my opinion, I always thought once you got two no's the chance were 99% positive it was time to move on. I knew of some people who would get a no and be like 'well why not? Dont you care about these people?'... I never agreed with that attitude. The best ones in the office always had an unflustered manner and could 'turn a negetive' without coming across as pushy, the bad ones, or desperate to get paid ones always resorted to guilt trips and scare tactics. Most of these people are working 12 hour days and earning around 60 to 90 euro a day. Its a tough job that people do to get through college or put on a CV, not usually a dream appointment... most days youre walking around council estate getting abuse off the local kids and a chase from a rabbid dog.

Usually if you just listen to their pitch, say no once, they'll attempt to turn your negetive, say no again firmly, thank them for their time, and theyll move on. If you have a dog, leave it in your front garden with the gate closed.

I'd definitely give to a door-to-door chugger before I would give to a collection bucket or street-chugger... its much more regulated.

RonMexico

Some ban these pests for the love of God.

Zaph

Pen1987 wrote: »

When I did it I actively avoided annoying people, I'd get a no, accept it and give a little more detail, if I got one more no I say thanks and move on.

There's the fcuking problem right there. You were told no and yet you still push it until you get another no. Do you honestly believe that's actively avoiding annoying people? Chuggers are the lowest form of life imo and must be eradicated from the planet for the good of mankind.

P_1

Zaph wrote: »

There's the fcuking problem right there. You were told no and yet you still push it until you get another no. Do you honestly believe that's actively avoiding annoying people? Chuggers are the lowest form of life imo and must be eradicated from the planet for the good of mankind.

2nd Lowest maybe. Those Hanly Centre people are by far the worst.

Zaph

pithater1 wrote: »

2nd Lowest maybe. Those Hanly Centre people are by far the worst.

Good point, forgot about them.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Hah, brilliant, another chugger thread... I love these.

P_1

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

Hah, brilliant, another chugger thread... I love these.

Aye they're great alright:pac: (chugger threads, not chuggers)

Dudess

Zaph wrote: »

Chuggers are the lowest form of life imo and must be eradicated from the planet for the good of mankind.

+1. Chuggers are c*nts.

Tell me about these Hanly people...

P_1

Dudess wrote: »

+1. Chuggers are c*nts.

Tell me about these Hanly people...

Some rehab clinic fundraises by selling lottery tickets. They tend to employ rather annoying d4 types (we're talking your stereotypical 16-19 year old here) who follow you up and down Grafton Street pestering you to buy the bloody things.

Jigsaw

I fart in the general direction of chuggers. Their cause is worthwhile - their strategy is not.

Pen1987

Pen1987 wrote: »

Ive done this job in the past and you would not realise how much good work these companies are doing for charity, while I was there 4 people raised 100'000 euro in two weeks for an MS chairty.

So how much of the €100,000 actually went to the charity?

robinph

Pen1987 wrote: »

...and a chase from a rabbid dog.

See, you just can't help yourself with the lies and trying to guilt people into feeling sorry for you to get them to part with their money. There are not any dogs, or other animals, with rabies running loose around estates in Ireland.

The_Conductor

vektarman wrote: »

I had a dilemma recently, my pizza was delivered by a Jehovahs witness, hunger won!

Lollers. My computer components from Komplett, were delivered by the local Jehovah's Witnesses.

I got caught out by the local Baptist church the other day- they insisted on giving me a pamphlet on why Genesis is right (and science is wrong). Slight bit of a waste of time in my house- with my wife being a geneticist and me an engineer/scientist.......

Couple of weeks ago got a solicitor at the door subpoening me as a defense witness in a case from 6 years ago. He had fun explaining that I was legally obliged to attend- and that subpoena meant "under-pain". He'd have been under pain........

Task no. 1 this evening- remove the batteries from the internal bell for the door (the light will still come on and it'll make a buzzing noise as though its working but nothing happens inside. If anyone legitimately wants to contact me- they can ring in advance.

Johnny Utah

Pen1987 wrote: »

Ive done this job in the past and you would not realise how much good work these companies are doing for charity, while I was there 4 people raised 100'000 euro in two weeks for an MS chairty.

Someone mentioned Deaf kids, that charity is Deaf Child Worldwide, its a really good cause, 60c a day 18e a month...

When I did it I actively avoided annoying people, I'd get a no, accept it and give a little more detail, if I got one more no I say thanks and move on. There were people in the office who were far to pushy in my opinion, I always thought once you got two no's the chance were 99% positive it was time to move on. I knew of some people who would get a no and be like 'well why not? Dont you care about these people?'... I never agreed with that attitude. The best ones in the office always had an unflustered manner and could 'turn a negetive' without coming across as pushy, the bad ones, or desperate to get paid ones always resorted to guilt trips and scare tactics. Most of these people are working 12 hour days and earning around 60 to 90 euro a day. Its a tough job that people do to get through college or put on a CV, not usually a dream appointment... most days youre walking around council estate getting abuse off the local kids and a chase from a rabbid dog.

Usually if you just listen to their pitch, say no once, they'll attempt to turn your negetive, say no again firmly, thank them for their time, and theyll move on. If you have a dog, leave it in your front garden with the gate closed.

I'd definitely give to a door-to-door chugger before I would give to a collection bucket or street-chugger... its much more regulated.

Like I said the last time you pestered me, piss off and get a real job :pac:

skibum

connundrum wrote: »

No love for the children then, ey!

Thats exactly what the cocky b4stard said!!

pucan

Myth wrote: »

So how much of the €100,000 actually went to the charity?

Exactly

biko

Ask them for a Euro for the baby, while holding a fake baby.

Pen1987

The reek of hypo/over-critical Irish off this thread is unreal.

Zaph wrote: »

There's the fcuking problem right there. You were told no and yet you still push it until you get another no. Do you honestly believe that's actively avoiding annoying people? Chuggers are the lowest form of life imo and must be eradicated from the planet for the good of mankind.

When you knock on the door the immiediate answer is no, thats what people are programmed to react like because Sky and NTL have been knocking at their door for years telling them they need the latest Satelite dish... do you think the charities would get any help if once the door was opened and some one said 'I'm not interested' the worker just said 'ok' and walked off be even explaining they wernt trying to sell you a product but instead help a charity. The first no is when you open the door, the second no is after you've explained youre not here to update their satelite dish and explained who you are helping, if theyre still not interested 'thanks goodbye.'

Myth wrote: »

So how much of the €100,000 actually went to the charity?

100%.
With the company I worked for we only accepted work from charities who raised funds from a sponsor company to pay our wages. So the charity went out to say Eircom and said 'Look, were trying to raise funds to help out Deaf Children, but we dont have the man-power, volunteers, money or sales people to do it... will you agree to pay the fees for whatever these people can raise for us?' and they'd give them an approximate price that they would need to pay the fees for the chuggers. The chuggers would go out and do the work, every person they signed up the chugger got thirty euro, on average that person would donate 1300e before they closed their subscription, therefore the charity makes 1300e profit and eircom pays out 30e to the chugger, and 10 euro to the company the chugger is emplyed by.

The chuggers work for a seperate company providing charities with the sales skill they dont have, the man-power they dont have and the time they dont have to directly employ people to raise funds. Its basic business sense for a charity to employ a chugging company if they have get a sponsor company.

pucan wrote: »

Exactly

Exactly, youre wrong, but now youre informed.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Pen1987 wrote: »

they wernt trying to sell you a product but instead help a charity.

It's all the same to me; whether it's a chugger, someone trying to tell me about their religion, someone wanting to sharpen my shears, a beggar or a politician.
I've still had to drop what ever I was doing to open the front door and deal with an unwanted and awkward situation.
Is cold-calling on the telephone getting too expensive or something?

5starpool

smccarrick wrote: »

I got caught out by the local Baptist church the other day- they insisted on giving me a pamphlet on why Genesis is right (and science is wrong). Slight bit of a waste of time in my house- with my wife being a geneticist and me an engineer/scientist.......

Just because you are a scientist? What have Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel etc ever done to you? Apart from the desperate music in the main of course.

Pen1987 wrote: »

The reek of hypo/over-critical Irish off this thread is unreal.



<snip> blah blah etc </snip>


Exactly, youre wrong, but now youre informed.

Thank god for the chuggers then to remind us over and again about our moral duties. We would never think of donating to charity if it weren't for the kind prompting of their kind. I'd rather listen to a sky tv salesman than a chugger tbh.

Pen1987

5starpool wrote: »

Thank god for the chuggers then to remind us over and again about our moral duties. We would never think of donating to charity if it weren't for the kind prompting of their kind. I'd rather listen to a sky tv salesman than a chugger tbh.

One, Its not me as a chugger (which I'm not anymore, but I'm happy to say I was, I'm happy about the amount of money I earned for charity) its me as a person calling them out on the fact theyre speaking on something which they are not fully informed about. Two, youre smart answer was ****, improve.

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

It's all the same to me; whether it's a chugger, someone trying to tell me about their religion, someone wanting to sharpen my shears, a beggar or a politician.
I've still had to drop what ever I was doing to open the front door and deal with an unwanted and awkward situation.
Is cold-calling on the telephone getting too expensive or something?

No cold-calling isnt too expensive, its too ineffective.

Its up to you to be annoyed with whoever knocks on the door, but I dont see any threads in here saying Jehovahs Witnesses are the scum of the earth and need to be eradicated. Chuggers are just trying to do their job raise the profile and funds of charities, almost everyone pre-judges them and are completely uninformed on the situation. The fact its commercially-viable for charities to use these methods so not everyone is as annoyed and pissed off answering their door as you.

Dennis the Stone

Pen1987 wrote: »

One, Its not me as a chugger (which I'm not anymore, but I'm happy to say I was, I'm happy about the amount of money I earned for charity)

More like "I'm happy with the amount I earned an hour. As you said earlier, people do it to pay their way through college. It's a job like any other. And 90 an hour for standing around harassing people sounds pretty good, when I remember my 300 a week for horrible horrible work in a factory years back. You should quit after the first no, whether it's an automatic no or not. It's definitely a no, because the person can see instantly that you want money.