OMG DID ANYONE SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CITY TODAY???

the_follwer

I was just on my way to north main street from the roundie and i saw this woman running down the road,she had a small baby in her arms and was crying and obviously very shook up and was screaming 'get that man' so i assume she was mugged!! the man was ahead walking very fast. nobody helped her though it was very sad and i only thought afterwards what i could do to help her but with a buggy myself i dont think i would have been much help. it totally sucks there were plenty of people around that could have helped her but everyone just seemed to watch on...

CantGetNoSleep

I would have chinned him

jhegarty

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

I would have chinned him

And if it turned out she was just a loon ?

patrick_micheal

This happends alot around the city. People just dont care about any one elses problems. This city i falling apart and were all going to walk on it's the irish way.No one can say that they would step in as not to want to interfear.

the_follwer

maybe your one of many ignorant people in ireland who thinks people who are in distress are weirdo's....:mad:
sorry to all others who are not!!:D

dr.bollocko

It was me.
She asked me out.
She had a perm.

the_follwer

patrick_micheal wrote: »

This happends alot around the city. People just dont care about any one elses problems. This city i falling apart and were all going to walk on it's the irish way.No one can say that they would step in as not to want to interfear.

and you interfear too much you stalker.

patrick_micheal

No, i was just saying that not alot of people are going to interveen whit something thats going on in daylight. it's all drama happening . it's sad to see how people can be. was this woman irish?

taram

Tbh I'd be wary about tackling some dude to the ground in case he had a knife or something. Not that my 5 foot something unfit self could tackle a determined running man hehe.

patrick_micheal

come on now i dont, thats a bit of a harsh statment. help people all the time i just got side tracked from helping people for the past few months. but not to go off topic women have fought for independence and rights and what not a part of that is all so taking on there own **** and standing up. it was worng that she had to put up with that kind of thing when she had a child in her arms. did you just walk on your self.??

patrick_micheal

taram wrote: »

Tbh I'd be wary about tackling some dude to the ground in case he had a knife or something. Not that my 5 foot something unfit self could tackle a determined running man hehe.

id say some how you would have no bother putting a man to his knees. if that was you taram would you have run after the guy with a kid in your arms.???

Kold

... Wtf?

taram

patrick_micheal wrote: »

id say some how you would have no bother putting a man to his knees. if that was you taram would you have run after the guy with a kid in your arms.???

If it had been me no, I doubt I would have since my child's safety would be more important than my bag. Hopefully in that case I'd be in town with my best friend (has top belts in three different martial arts) or my boyfriend (who can run pretty damn fast). If it was me and I didn't have a child with me, I'd easily whack him one Just hard to know how you'd react if it did happen, or if you saw it happening.

Fighting Irish

the_follwer wrote: »

I was just on my way to north main street from the roundie and i saw this woman running down the road,she had a small baby in her arms and was crying and obviously very shook up and was screaming 'get that man' so i assume she was mugged!! the man was ahead walking very fast. nobody helped her though it was very sad and i only thought afterwards what i could do to help her but with a buggy myself i dont think i would have been much help. it totally sucks there were plenty of people around that could have helped her but everyone just seemed to watch on...

maybe everyone else thought the same way, you'd be mad to chase anyone down for a purse or whatever was stolen, what happens when you catch up to the guy and he pulls out a knife?

the real world isn't the same as the movies :pac:

Fighting Irish

patrick_micheal wrote: »

This happends alot around the city. People just dont care about any one elses problems. This city i falling apart and were all going to walk on it's the irish way.No one can say that they would step in as not to want to interfear.

Why would they?

I'm all for helping out but if you're stupid enough to let someone steal your sh1t on a public street in front of other people then its up to you to chase the guy and hope he hasn't got something dangerous in his pocket

LCDeelite

The man who (I'm assuming) mugged that woman ought to be sent to a reformatory centre where he is placed in solitary confinement- exposed to nothing but the strains of Neil Prendeville through some speakers. He wouldn't be long repenting, the stupid c*nt! :pac:

It's crap how that stuff is going on in broad daylight around town these days, but it's a sign of the times how people conveniently become deaf, dumb, and blind in reaction to it.

Personally, I wouldn't intervene unless I was with a good few of my (less chicken sh*t!) friends. Maybe at least scare the f*cker a bit. I'm hoping that someone at least asked the woman if she was alright afterwards anyway. I think North Main St is a bit of a dive anyway, as far as streets go around town. Never liked the place. I try to avoid walking down there where possible. It's an ugly street and I don't like the feel of it.

Judes

A number of years ago in Cork, in broad daylight, infront of the CIE Bus Station, Parnell Place, I witnessed a man beating a woman, hitting her to the ground - there were loads of people watching, nobody did anything, so I marched towards them roaring at the top of my voice "you stop that now or I'm calling the Gardai" (before the days of Mobile Phones and regular stabbings/shootings - I may add). So he stopped, glared at me, she got up - she shouted at me to "F..K OFF" and the two of them walked off together.

I was disgusted and angry at that woman for going off with him, angry she turned on mewho tried to assist, angry at the fact that NOBODY did or said anything and of course I realised I had infact put myself in danger.

I would be very apprehensive to get involved in anything that may put me in danger, but in the days of mobile phones, it takes 2 seconds to just dial the gardai to request assistance. (assuming they get there on time!)

Heisenberg.

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the_follwer

:eek: she charged you for the coffee!!!!
yeah im seeing more drunks and homeless people on the street..maybe cos its 'summer'.
i would have helped if i didnt have my child sittin in the buggy myself.its only after that i was thinking of what i could have done but too late eh.
there were plenty of men around that could have been man enough to evaluate a distressed woman i dono just felt real sorry for the girl. she wont be going down that street again me thinks. yeah it is a bit of smelly street. its the northsiders street isnt it,seems that way!!

Tony255

the_follwer wrote: »

its the northsiders street isnt it,seems that way!!

I assume you are joking

Kold

Tony255 wrote: »

I assume you are joking

Somehow I don't think she is...

patrick_micheal

the_follwer wrote: »

:eek: she charged you for the coffee!!!!
yeah im seeing more drunks and homeless people on the street..maybe cos its 'summer'.
i would have helped if i didnt have my child sittin in the buggy myself.its only after that i was thinking of what i could have done but too late eh.
there were plenty of men around that could have been man enough to evaluate a distressed woman i dono just felt real sorry for the girl. she wont be going down that street again me thinks. yeah it is a bit of smelly street. its the northsiders street isnt it,seems that way!!

you see even your self is finding a reson to walk on. twice in this tread have you used your son as the excuse that you are not able to do this or that. why bother expressing your point of view about something your going to supositly do. when your going to hide behind your buggy at the end of the day.???people that do help dont come up with any excuses they do it off there own back at the moment it arrises where they can help. people just dont want to help in this city and most of the drunk homless people want to carry on the way there going, they love drink and would not give it up for anything. the real homeless in the city get sorted out strate away and dont get put in to the simon, but get put into care in blarney,s sisters of mercey.
plus you are making an asumption that she was mugged there is no hard evedence if she was able to speak english she would have stopped some one. in that case if she was all that histearical she would have said it to a man or shouted for help. but she did not.

smackbunnybaby

Prof.Dufflecoat wrote: »

Yeah this sort of stuff seems to be happening more frequently.

This only happened a month ago, I saw some random hobo punch a girl in the face because she told him to leave the shop as he was drinking alcohol.
I was speechless and kind of went into a retarded freeze while they exchanged ninny slaps.
I eventually snapped out of it as this girl was clearly distressed and wrestled the guy out the door.. (well, it was more of a push really )

I told them to call the 5-0 while i followed him up the street, he was eventually picked up and hopefully locked away.

Girl in the shop still charged me for my coffee 10 mins later.

my dad wrestled a thief to the ground of an off licence before and still had to pay for the wine he was buying!

i know of case similar to Judes before but the good samaritan ended up getting stabbed and dying. in the mean time the couple who had been rowing stood by each other as if there was no problem.
the problem is in these situations that you dont know the reason for the fight. it could be just some over reactive couple like above.

razorblunt

Why do you assume she was robbed, if I had robbed someone I wouldnt be "walking" quickly away I'd have pegged it, I knew of a guy that broke up a fight where a guy was beating his partner, yer man went over to pull him off her and he gets a headbutt in the face smashe his nose yer one still left with her beater before the Gardai arrived.

Jack B. Badd

OMG DON'T SHOUT UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING INTERESTING AND/OR IMPORTANT!!!

the_follwer

omg il make sure il never shout your name!!!!!
um dont take things too seriously
NEXT

Skud

Judes wrote: »

A number of years ago in Cork, in broad daylight, infront of the CIE Bus Station, Parnell Place, I witnessed a man beating a woman, hitting her to the ground - there were loads of people watching, nobody did anything, so I marched towards them roaring at the top of my voice "you stop that now or I'm calling the Gardai" (before the days of Mobile Phones and regular stabbings/shootings - I may add). So he stopped, glared at me, she got up - she shouted at me to "F..K OFF" and the two of them walked off together.

I was disgusted and angry at that woman for going off with him, angry she turned on mewho tried to assist, angry at the fact that NOBODY did or said anything and of course I realised I had infact put myself in danger.

I would be very apprehensive to get involved in anything that may put me in danger, but in the days of mobile phones, it takes 2 seconds to just dial the gardai to request assistance. (assuming they get there on time!)

I know this happened to someone else too. The guy stopped a man from physically abusing a woman down by the bus station and she freaked at him asking him who's business was it to get involved. Kinda puts you off helping people etc...

BanzaiBk

the_follwer wrote: »

its the northsiders street isnt it,seems that way!!

lol, fail.

OMG I saw this poor woman obviously in distress. Did I help her? No. Why? Me me me etc. Now in the same breath let me slander a whole group of people, because clearly I'm perfect like.

the_follwer

hahahha slander..you dont half jump the gun! ah well not my fault.

Judes

Hey guys give Follwer a break - if you had a buggy with a child, then you'd have to think of the safety of the child first. I don't consider she's making excuses, she was just talking about something she saw and asking if others had seen it. We all react in different ways when confronted by such situations and in this day and age it's difficult to play the good samaritan. But wherever we live, looks like we should all have the Local Gardai on Speed Dial.

Jack B. Badd

the_follwer wrote: »

hahahha slander..you dont half jump the gun! ah well not my fault.

Libel, not slander.

Fysh

It's far easier to hide behind one's own excuses and point out everyone else's failings though, isn't it? Her basic claim is that nobody else in the street could possibly have a valid excuse for not dashing after the guy who she's decided must have committed some crime.

Plus she does herself no favours at all by failing to grasp why things like punctuation, capitalisation, and not being a moron are all useful things in a conversation.

RoundyMooney

This whole thread is full of hearsay, conjecture and finger pointing.

I wouldn't expect a mother with children to play the hero, even a guy taking on a mugger (presumably) is risky as knives or syringes can be produced before you get a chance to get a dig in.

Many people can be slow to react too, in the heat of the moment.

Sad to see people walk on by, but that's todays society for you.

Mossy Monk

She had a baby? So what. Do you take notice of Baby On Board signs too?

mand123

Mossy Monk wrote: »

She had a baby? So what. Do you take notice of Baby On Board signs too?

What an honorable attitude.

Bros123

Mossy Monk wrote: »

She had a baby? So what. Do you take notice of Baby On Board signs too?

Well it goes without saying you don't.;)

the_follwer

I was telling a story and i think most of you replying with negativity should all be ashamed of yourselves!
picking at me because i do not use pronounciation etc and that coming from a mod(erator) ppffft
your an utter disgrace quite frankly.
I only came on here to highlight the fact that these days nobody respects the vulnrable members of our society and you have just proven that with your arrogant and/or ignorant (whichever applies) attitude.

Fysh

OK, have you got any constructive or useful suggestions on what can be done to address this issue? Pointing out that a problem exists is one thing, but you'll get a lot more positive responses if you can suggest what can be done about it. Sounding like a Daily Mail journalist decrying the collapse of modern society doesn't really help anyone. Not bothering to express yourself coherently just compounds the issue.

BanzaiBk

the_follwer wrote: »

I was telling a story and i think most of you replying with negativity should all be ashamed of yourselves!

I only came on here to highlight the fact that these days nobody respects the vulnrable members of our society and you have just proven that with your arrogant and/or ignorant (whichever applies) attitude.

ORLY?

the_follwer wrote: »

she wont be going down that street again me thinks. yeah it is a bit of smelly street. its the northsiders street isnt it,seems that way!!

tbh.

patrick_micheal

the_follwer wrote: »

I was telling a story and i think most of you replying with negativity should all be ashamed of yourselves!
picking at me because i do not use pronounciation etc and that coming from a mod(erator) ppffft
your an utter disgrace quite frankly.
I only came on here to highlight the fact that these days nobody respects the vulnrable members of our society and you have just proven that with your arrogant and/or ignorant (whichever applies) attitude.

well now there are many boards that you like to pull people on spelling and grammer so whats the problem it's an eye for an eye thease days. negativity is all around people are trying to be better than every body else it's the rat race get over your self and get the better of them if you able. hey the 411 it back good to see that. back to the topic you did not help her why?? your the same as evey other on looker. oh and if corks that bad and has offered so much of a bad time to you and the people are so bad than move on else where there is plenty of places round the country that are just the same if not worse. one day help one person and it's a day worth while. but people just carry on and wont make the time to put them selves out if there is no personal gane.

taffer92

i for one would not even dream of getting involved in such a nasty business.

mand123

I think what The_follower is trying to point out that a vulnerable lady with a small baby was calling for help and nobody stepped in. Its shocking to see something like this happen and is easy to put yourself in her shoes and imagine what if that was me and I was in distress and nobody was willing to help?? It would make me feel small and helpless. Being unaware of all the facts would make it hard for anyone to make a snap decision for example chasing the man and wrestling him to the ground. It is hard to way out the costs of the consequences of being a hero. In todays society it would be very risky. But what can be done in these situations?
Hearing your negative feedback makes me want to carry something large and blunt in my handbag you know being a woman and a feminist like!!

Kold

mand123 wrote: »

Hearing your negative feedback makes me want to carry something large and blunt in my handbag you know being a woman and a feminist like!!

What?

Fysh

ZOMG SOCIETY R DOOMD! IT ARE TRUE, I KNOWS IT WIT MY L33T LEARNINGS!

Seriously. We've got one person reporting something that they saw in the street where they openly admit to not knowing the facts - for all we know the people in question could have been having a couple having a huge row, it's not like it's unheard of for domestic disputes to lead to screaming and tears. And on the back of this one person's blatantly sensationalist report, we're all supposed to either condemn, I don't know, the youth of today or something. Oh, and don't forget to blanket-label all northsiders as inherently scummy too, from what I can tell.

You might think I'm being a bit harsh here, but until someone offers some constructive suggestions on what could be done to avoid these kinds of situations in future, I'm hard pressed to give a rolling f*ck whether I come across as negative or not. Expending energy on finding a solution is one thing, and a worthwhile endeavour at that. Expending a load of energy on wailing, gnashing of teeth, and proclaiming that it's not like the good old days when beer was a penny a pint and the world was bloody wonderful (contrary to reports of the time), on the other hand, is a borderline-retarded endeavour and I don't see why we're all supposed to go along with it just because one person has posted up their attempt at Daily Mail fanfiction.

Malari

Fysh wrote: »

You might think I'm being a bit harsh here, but until someone offers some constructive suggestions on what could be done to avoid these kinds of situations in future, I'm hard pressed to give a rolling f*ck whether I come across as negative or not.

The most anyone with an ounce of sense should do is call the guards and maybe approach the woman and ask her is she ok/what happened. I just wonder what the OP would have done if she hadn't been pushing a buggy. What does she think would be appropriate behaviour?

parsi

mand123 wrote: »

What an honorable attitude.

What do you mean ?

Do you believe that speeding cars that are just about to rear-end other cars go "OMG there's a baby on board, break, break for the love of God" ?

turgon

Fysh wrote: »

You might think I'm being a bit harsh here, but until someone offers some constructive suggestions on what could be done to avoid these kinds of situations in future,

A separation barrier, obviously.



South to the left, North to the right. Bingo.

turgon

And just cause I copped it,

OMG, DID ANYONE SEE HOW TO TURN OFF CAPSLOCK????

Jack B. Badd

Malari wrote: »

The most anyone with an ounce of sense should do is call the guards and maybe approach the woman and ask her is she ok/what happened. I just wonder what the OP would have done if she hadn't been pushing a buggy. What does she think would be appropriate behaviour?

I fail to see how pushing a buggy would have prevented the OP from calling the gardai or asking the woman if she was ok. Fair enough, maybe she didn't want to get directly involved when she has a sprog with her (assuming the buggy's not empty) but she could have certainly called the gardai.

Did the OP call the gardai? I'm guessing not...

One-Day-Juande

There are a number of points brought up here.

Firstly, the description of events given does not fully account for the situation, I know we are living in world declining in moral values that will collapse in an orgy of knife crime and drug abuse at any moment...

However, there is not a great amount of crime of that sort going on in broad daylight on cork's main street, like it or not Cork is a relatively fluffy safe place. I tend to take the impression that she was some sort of unhinged type herself, it happens. Did anyone else find it strange that she was "carrying" a very small baby? Why would you be carrying a very small baby in the centre of town?

I do agree though that there are plenty of people who don't give two sh**s what happens to others so long as it doesn't personally affect them. I remember last October walking up Washington St when I came across this guy unconcious slumped in a doorway. As I approached I noticed a number of large groups of people just walking straight past him like he didn't exist. He was well dressed enough so it was clear he wasn't homeless and just sleeping there. I rang an ambulance for him. It wasn't some great heroic act, it was just a simple matter in helping out however I could. The point is though while it turned out he had drunk too much, it is still no excuse not to help. It really wasn't plainly obvious either. Severe diabetes can create sypmtoms that look like you're blind drunk. The fella could have been dead or dying.

I suppose the point I'm trying to make is, none of us are heroes. As members of society we have a duty to help when we can and when appropriate. Unfortuantely there is no rule book for this so play it by ear.

On another note, I entirely disagree with opinions of North Main St, historically it is the heart of the city.

And as for peoples opinions of northsiders, that is genuinely a disgusting generalisation. The vast majority of people from that side of the city are good decent people. IF someone had stood up to help the woman, it more than likely would have been someone from the north rather than the south. (and this comes from a southsider:))

Sorry about the length of this,rant over.

Energizeer

It was probably a domestic. Or maybe the guy had bumped into her or her child. In which case if you did rugby tackle the guy to the ground you could be charged with attacking him. I would have asked the girl whats the matter before I did anything.