FF13 no longer a ps3 exclusive

noodler

http://www.e3.net/

damn microsoft.

Fony Tenton

Oh can you not play it now or something??

noodler

Typically, the ps3 seems to get the raw end of the deal with regards multi format releases.

I never feel a game is done the bets it could be when there are multiformat issues.

Vokes

Wow, that's out of the blue.

FFXIII was one of the main reasons that I was gonna invest in an PS3 soon...

Not so sure now.

noodler

Yeah, Illl still get it though. Whats next, Halo 4 a ps3 exclusive?

rizzla

Doesn't help the fact that the franchise has took a nose dive and this looks to continue the trend.

I hope they make MGS 4 multi-format, only reason I want a PS3.

Cuddlesworth

noodler wrote: »

Yeah, Illl still get it though. Whats next, Halo 4 a ps3 exclusive?

Doubtfull, Since Microsoft own Bungie.

FreeOSCAR

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Doubtfull, Since Microsoft own Bungie.

Not since October 07 holmes.

o1s1n

Meh, Final Fantasy will forever been a Nintendo exlusive

Like many others, it and MGS4 were the main reasons I wanted a ps3. Not too sure now.

steviec

It was one of the main reasons I got a PS3. Good thing it being multiplatform hasn't magically stopped me from getting it!

Bit of a surprise alright but no big deal really. It was the last big third party exclusive on either side. MS and Sony are both dependant on first and second party stuff these days, that's how the market is.

Ross_Mahon

They do not understand. They do not know why we wage this war. Why we will fight, and fight and fight... Until we win... Or we die... And we are not dead yet.

Vokes

But steviec, wouldn't Sony have been heavily dependant on FF13 being a console-seller? and then by extension, an even bigger consumerbase to sell other games too.

Ross_Mahon

SofaK wrote: »

But steviec, wouldn't Sony have been heavily dependant on FF13 being a console-seller? and then by extension, an even bigger consumerbase to sell other games too.

I know a lot of people that bought the PS3 just for FF13 or MGS4...i just hope that the PS3 has more games coming out that will save it.

steviec

It doesn't matter anymore (unless you're a Sony shareholder)

Both consoles have a big enough install base that no third party can ignore either of them.

FFXIII has gone multiplatform, and xbox exclusives such as Bioshock and Saint's Row are having their sequels come to PS3 too. Third party exclusives just aren't happening anymore so you're fine no matter what console you own.

The only major exclusives now are the first party ones and Sony are doing just fine, they'll have plenty to show tomorrow.

The PS3 doesn't need saving - all the games people bought it for are still coming to it, and so are many others. The 360 just happens to be getting some of them also, it's really not a big deal.

noodler

Same time multi format releases remind me of ..*shudder*...EA games.

I would rather there be exclusives on both sides then crap mult format efforts but we shall see.

FreeOSCAR

The Xbox version will be ported after the PS3 vesion is finished been made and will probably ship with lots of discs but I dont care, im just happy to be getting the damn game.

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mcgovern

steviec wrote: »

It was one of the main reasons I got a PS3. Good thing it being multiplatform hasn't magically stopped me from getting it!

Bit of a surprise alright but no big deal really. It was the last big third party exclusive on either side. MS and Sony are both dependant on first and second party stuff these days, that's how the market is.

Emm, Gears of War 2 is an exclusive and 3rd Party? Thats just one of the big ones, there are plenty more.

noodler

Well lets be fair, Playstation has always had a better selection of games and plenty of exclusives as well. If the amount of ppl who buys it doubles I'd be happy enough.

Maybe therell be plenty of Xboxers converted to the way of the Fantasy..

Seifer

noodler wrote:

Well lets be fair, Playstation has always had a better selection of games and plenty of exclusives as well. If the amount of ppl who buys it doubles I'd be happy enough.

Maybe therell be plenty of Xboxers converted to the way of the Fantasy..

Be fair to who? Made Up Facts Inc.?

The XBox is not a game, that comparison makes no sense.

When's the series coming back to pc?

L31mr0d

I can't believe this? Didn't Square Enix initially stop making FF games for Nintendo because Nintendo refused to move over quick enough to a CD based console, which is why they chose Sony who had the PS1 at the time, they needed the added storage space for lengthy cut scenes.

I thought now with the PS3 it would definitely be tied to it as the PS3 has bluray whereas the 360 is still on DVD. If it does get released for the 360 I can see there being like 10 discs needed for the 360 version.

thelordofcheese

Seifer wrote: »

When's the series coming back to pc?

Whens it coming back to Nintendo? This silly lovers tiff has gone on long enough!

L31mr0d

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Whens it coming back to Nintendo? This silly lovers tiff has gone on long enough!

Its Nintendo's own fault, they should of just let Sony make the CD attachment for the SNES instead of just dropping them like a wet rag to continue using the dated cartridge technology. Square needed more storage and Nintendo refused to give it to them.

super_furry

It's fairly obvious isn't it? FFXIII won't sell enough on the PS3 alone and given the huge software attach rate of the 360, it makes financial sense. I still expect a similar announcement from Konami regarding MGS4.

With the continuing success of the 360 and Wii, the console market is fragmented and third party exclusives are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

noodler

Seifer wrote: »

Be fair to who? Made Up Facts Inc.?

The XBox is not a game, that comparison makes no sense.

When's the series coming back to pc?

Do you really want to dispute that the PS2 had a bigger AND better selection of games than the Xbox? Sighs if you do.

I said if ppl who own Xboxs buy it, then ostensibly they may (up to) double their sales of the game.

What is so hard to undertsand there?


Funny it happens at a time when PS3 is starting to outsell the 360 (ratewise-Im not saying there have been more ps3s sold than 360s)

super_furry

In fairness that was only last month when the PS3's biggest game to date was launched while pretty much nothing of interest came out on the Xbox.

ghouldaddy07

I foolishly own both consoles and I have to say im delighted by this news as the more people that get to play a game they want to play the better.

I bought a ps3 about a year ago for metal gear solid 4 and i dont regret it all and if they release metal gear for the 360 this year I wont care cause it wont make my enjoyment of it any less.

This generation the consoles are far to similar in terms of their capabilitys (360, PS3)

games are costing to much to make these days for a developer to limit have its consumer base plus its a kick in the teeth to one set of the console fanboys and hopefully the other half will get the same.

Seifer

noodler wrote:

Do you really want to dispute that the PS2 had a bigger AND better selection of games than the Xbox?

No, I don't want to dispute it as there is no right answer. I'm just pointing out to you that your subjective opinion is not fact.

Seifer wrote:

The XBox is not a game, that comparison makes no sense.

Refers to:

noodler wrote:

Maybe therell be plenty of Xboxers converted to the way of the Fantasy..

noodler

I still don't understand what you are getting at with your last bit. I am a massive FF fan, so I am saying, despite my Sony bias, that I'd be happy for the game to reach a wider audience.

What comparison do you mean?

And, come on, the number of ps2 game available positively dwarfs the original xbox. It had more good games by sheer volume. I doubt it is subjective.

If we list good games on each system, you would run out of Xbox games (not just good one) whilst I am still on my ps2 list.

Otacon

Square Enix haven't had "it" for a while so I am not as enthused about FFXIII as I was about the other installments. However, I will still be giving this a look when it arrives.

TBH I can see the logic. Make more money on two consoles than one. I don't mind that. What I would mind is the added quality being sacrificed to accommodate both consoles varied architectures. I always prefer when titles are for one platform, not because of fanboi-ism but purely because, if a game is made for one console, it tends to mean it gets the most out of the hardware.

Take Shadow of the Colossus - could it have been released on the XBox? I believe so but to get the same out of it, it would have had to be developed separately so as to make the most of that specific hardware.

All in all, I don't mind if it is multi-platform after hearing that the port will be made after.

noodler

Off-topic slightly, but how many games are done well on multi-platforms?

I guess the Pro-Evos were okay when they started being made for Xbox.

Seifer

I quoted what I am refering to directly.
If in the above quote you said "Maybe therell be plenty of [some xbox exclusive rpg]ers converted to the way of the Fantasy.." then it would at least make logical sense.

noodler wrote:

Off-topic slightly, but how many games are done well on multi-platforms?

GTA and CoD4 spring to mind as recent titles. There are probably lots more. Tbh, it depends a lot on the developer. If they're willing to put the effort in they can make a game work really well on all platforms. If they're lazy it'll be buggy and not fun to play.

noodler

"Maybe therell be plenty of Xboxers converted to the way of the Fantasy.."

Is what I said. As in many Xbox owners may get to try their first FF game cos of this move. I know, it is not perfect English if that is what you mean. Otherwise I don't see how you didn't get that!

Anyway. Grammar aside, I assume they have been working on the 360 version for yonks, they just better not sacrifice the quality of the game.

steviec

mcgovern wrote: »

Emm, Gears of War 2 is an exclusive and 3rd Party? Thats just one of the big ones, there are plenty more.

No it isn't, it's published by Microsoft. Just like Resistance or Uncharted, they're also from independant developers but they're published by Sony.

The last major real third party exclusive on 360 was Bioshock, and that was simply because the PS3 wasn't around yet when they began development. As can be seen by the fact they're now doing a PS3 port, and Bioshock 2 will be multiplatform. The same goes for Bizarre Creations next racing game (Microsoft own the Project Gotham name but the devs have moved on), the likes of Dead Rising and Lost Planet will certainly be multiplatform when they get sequels.

The only third party exclusives these days are the ones from developers who are too small to stretch themselves, like that Ferrari game that came out on PS3 recently or things like Two Worlds on 360.

For any big budget game, it's simply not worth a developers while to only release on one console, so the only time you'll see an exclusive is when the platform holder directly pays for it, and I'd rather see MS and Sony spend their money on developing first party games rather than spending it on stopping ports of games being released.

thelordofcheese

L31mr0d wrote: »

Its Nintendo's own fault, they should of just let Sony make the CD attachment for the SNES instead of just dropping them like a wet rag to continue using the dated cartridge technology. Square needed more storage and Nintendo refused to give it to them.

Look, things were said, mistakes were made. Can't they just kiss and make up?

Mossy Monk

Good to see exclusives drop like this. That said I couldn't give a **** about Final Fantasy.

Retr0gamer

And, come on, the number of ps2 game available positively dwarfs the original xbox. It had more good games by sheer volume. I doubt it is subjective.

If we list good games on each system, you would run out of Xbox games (not just good one) whilst I am still on my ps2 list.

Maybe so but you have to remember that for well over a year the PS2 had very little going for it compared to the excellent software catalogue of the competitor at the time the Dreamcast. PS2 sales skyrocketed before the Xbox and Gamecube came out thanks to the release of GT 3 and GTA 3 and even more so because of the playstation brand. It was by far the dominant console before those two got released and therefore it meant that it made financial sense to developers to make PS2 exclusive games or go multiplatform unless there was first party licensing and support.

In this generation the PS3 and xbox 360 are basically neck and neck in Europe and America, there is no clear dominant platform other than the Wii but software attachment rates are very low on that machine for anything other than mass appeal casual games. Also due to rising dev costs japanese companies can no longer make a profit from releasing a game just in japan and need a worldwide release. Releasing on both platform is a far more sensible move financially. With the rising cost of development we are probably going to see very few first party exclusives from now on.

As for people saying that FFXIII will be ported after it is finished, there's an interview on eurogamer and they say that porting of FFXIII is well underway. I'd bet porting is actually finished and they are continuing work on both platforms. Just like Devil May Cry 3 the game is being developed on PC's before being ported over on development kits meaning the port was probably relatively painless.

I don't really care if the game is released on multiple DVDs on the xbox 360, it never bothered me before and doesn't bother me in Lost Odyssey. However it looks like there will be another massive delay for the european launch so I'll be getting it on import and if there's region locking I'll be getting the PS3 version.

seraphimvc

L31mr0d wrote: »

I can't believe this? Didn't Square Enix initially stop making FF games for Nintendo because Nintendo refused to move over quick enough to a CD based console, which is why they chose Sony who had the PS1 at the time, they needed the added storage space for lengthy cut scenes.

I thought now with the PS3 it would definitely be tied to it as the PS3 has bluray whereas the 360 is still on DVD. If it does get released for the 360 I can see there being like 10 discs needed for the 360 version.

storage is never the main issue,the Nintendo 's ruthless marketing rules killed itself,square want more money while at the mean time we all know that Sony gave lots of support on FF7 development.dirty business.

dont forget sony is square 3rd biggest share holder too.so we can actually see there must be a huge amount of money involved for this case ,did microsoft pay it off or a piece of x360 cake is really that unresistable?we dont know.

basically what i can see is Square has lost its 'dominating weapon' as it used to do with old times :the powerful graphic is always its selling point,look at FF7 onwards,FFX was a shock in visual effects;but now?all Square left with is merely its name.shame.the logical next step to take is obviously joining x360.this news doesnt surprise me at all.

i say think back for the GC/ps2 case of RE4,capcom was the biggest a*** i have ever seen.Sqaure is not the worst.at least we now know that there is no such thing as loyalty in business.fanboy?only money talks.

Jack Sheehan

seraphimvc wrote: »

storage is never the main issue,the Nintendo 's ruthless marketing rules killed itself,square want more money while at the mean time we all know that Sony gave lots of support on FF7 development.dirty business.

dont forget sony is square 3rd biggest share holder too.so we can actually see there must be a huge amount of money involved for this case ,did microsoft pay it off or a piece of x360 cake is really that unresistable?we dont know.

basically what i can see is Square has lost its 'dominating weapon' as it used to do with old times :the powerful graphic is always its selling point,look at FF7 onwards,FFX was a shock in visual effects;but now?all Square left with is merely its name.shame.the logical next step to take is obviously joining x360.this news doesnt surprise me at all.

i say think back for the GC/ps2 case of RE4,capcom was the biggest a*** i have ever seen.Sqaure is not the worst.at least we now know that there is no such thing as loyalty in business.fanboy?only money talks.

Loyalty? Why should loyalty exist in the gaming world? All it serves to do is create elitism in the form of 'my console is better than your console because...'

thelordofcheese

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Loyalty? Why should loyalty exist in the gaming world? All it serves to do is create elitism in the form of 'my console is better than your console because...'

If it didn't exist this announcment wouldn't be half as good.

Listening to the hardcore sony fanbois BAWWWW is more fun than the last 3 FF games combined.

humanji

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Good to see exclusives drop like this. That said I couldn't give a **** about Final Fantasy.

I heartily agree with both points

Retr0gamer

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Listening to the hardcore sony fanbois BAWWWW is more fun than the last 3 FF games combined.

QFT

projectmayhem

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Listening to the hardcore sony fanbois BAWWWW is more fun than the last 3 FF games combined.

i disagree.

...there was nothing fun about those FF games.

Retr0gamer

projectmayhem wrote: »

i disagree.

...there was nothing fun about those FF games.

And this from a Killzone fan :P

humanji

Retr0gamer wrote: »

And this from a Killzone fan :P

lol, ZING!

projectmayhem

Retr0gamer wrote: »

And this from a Killzone fan :P

killzone isn't about fun. it's about gritty, greyish/brown realism, set in a future world with somewhat-human wannabe overlords.

duh.

Mitch Connor

Awesome....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I

noodler

I disagree. Loved FFX, and got plenty of enjoyment from 12.

Nailz

I'm not a fan of FF, but this will hurt Sony as a company, not the fans. In that way it's a bad thing, but FF fans, I'd imagine are fans of PlayStation anyway, so I hope it doesn't effect it that much.

noodler

If it is true Sony have shares in Squenix, then I think there should be a financial consolation for Sony. I'm still not pushed buying a 360, someone told me lately the RROD has a 50% rate.

Creamy Goodness

doesn't bother me in the slightest.

it will hurt sony, but i'm not that concerned, i'd be more concerned if it was an exclusive on a console i didn't own.

L31mr0d

would loved to of been a fly on the wall when Square told Sony that FF would no longer be exclusive to them. I wonder if they just didn't tell them and then dropped the bomb at E3, much like the way Nintendo waited for Sony to give its speech about their SNES CD addon at CES'92 and then got on stage to say "eh, actually we're not using Sony for the CD addon, we're now using Philips"... pwnt

I'm surprised also that Sony wouldn't pay Square to keep it exclusive, regardless of its gameplay degrading, financially its always been a success (much like the unbelievable Halo series) Sony must of known that FF is a title like MGS4 that will convince people to buy a PS3. Or maybe Sony are so cocky that they think any devout FF fan wouldn't even think of playing FF on a western console.