Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

OPENROAD

Frisbee wrote: »

Such as?
I really cant think of any other manager I'd want at Arsenal atm except for:

David O'Leary - He'd change the playing style too much I'd say, and tbh would only consider him because of his previous service to the club.

MON - Taken


And I wouldn't even really want either of them, only put them forward for the sake of names

O'Leary? God no, don't rate him all that much as a manager and he is certainly not very popular amongst Arsenal fans due to his comments about Pires while managing Leeds, but as a manager God no.

Arsene will be at the club for another few years, I think we all need to calm down a bit anyone would think we are bottom of the league, let us see how things are come May. I'm certainly going to have a nice bet on us for the league, at 12/1 the odds are too tempting.

it felt so much like a defeat. it was like liverpool at anfield in april all over again. playing them off the park with passing yet not putting the game to bed and punished for woeful defending. defending you wouldnt see as bad in a tipperary junior league match. i think any goalkeeper that gets caught from 40 yards should not be defended, just get him out of the club.

i thin we can now assume the premier league is further divided. 'the big three', arsenal, and the rest.

another false dawn for this once great club with such high standards and who could defend. another trophyless season ahead!!

Wreck

Deleted User wrote: »

i think any goalkeeper that gets caught from 40 yards should not be defended, just get him out of the club.

Yeah, we should never have hung on to Seaman after Nayim, no good ever came of it.

OPENROAD

Deleted User wrote: »

it felt so much like a defeat. it was like liverpool at anfield in april all over again. playing them off the park with passing yet not putting the game to bed and punished for woeful defending. defending you wouldnt see as bad in a tipperary junior league match. i think any goalkeeper that gets caught from 40 yards should not be defended, just get him out of the club.

i thin we can now assume the premier league is further divided. 'the big three', arsenal, and the rest.

another false dawn for this once great club with such high standards and who could defend. another trophyless season ahead!!

I agree with you about it feeling like Anfield last season.

However I don't see how you can say the Premier League is the big 3 then Arsenal, certainly we are behind Utd and Chelsea but I can't have you saying Liverpool are ahead of us Yes they have started well results wise but from what I have seen of them they have been quite lucky, we are only at November a long way to go.

L'prof

OPENROAD wrote: »

I'm certainly going to have a nice bet on us for the league, at 12/1 the odds are too tempting.

Seriously? I'd rather keep my money!

OPENROAD

jasonorr wrote: »

Seriously? I'd rather keep my money!

12/1 is too tempting.

Wreck

Wreck wrote: »

Yeah, we should never have hung on to Seaman after Nayim, no good ever came of it.

I was never a massive fan of Seaman after that. it a bad sign when a goalie gets caught like that as it shows they are not looking at the play as much as they should. Seaman won alot for arsenal but was weak under high balls as ronadinho later proved. What he won will always define the player but what he could have won will also leave a few question marks. buts that's another area for another day altogether.

i wouldn't call Liverpool lucky either. it dawned on me that whilst decisons did go for them in last seasons cl game vs us, they work very hard as a tam and pretty much out worked chelsea sunday. i think arsenal are in serious danger of being left behind the other 3 if they continue to defend like they do and seasons will be over for them earlier and earlier each season.

Wreck

Deleted User wrote: »

I was never a massive fan of Seaman after that. it a bad sign when a goalie gets caught like that as it shows they are not looking at the play as much as they should. Seaman won alot for arsenal but was weak under high balls as ronadinho later proved. What he won will always define the player but what he could have won will also leave a few question marks. buts that's another area for another day altogether.

You are totally underestimating just how good Seaman was right up to his retirement. Anyway, I don't particularly want to argue about this, I just think its ludicrous that you want to get rid of a player based on one goal.

Wreck

Wreck wrote: »

You are totally underestimating just how good Seaman was right up to his retirement. Anyway, I don't particularly want to argue about this, I just think its ludicrous that you want to get rid of a player based on one goal.

but its not though is it. Almunia has made several mistakes and Seaman made a few too there's no point denying and bad ones at that. i don't particularly want to get into it either so that's all i have to say. i have seen arsenal being loyal to too many players who let them down in big games over the years. letting a ball fall out of your hand fair enough or playing a bad goal kick, fine it can happen, but being caught off your line from 40 yards is inexcusable and proves a sheer lack of concentration.it wont do Almunia any good if he's left play on. drop him and let him prove ho keen he is to amend his mistakes.

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Deleted User wrote: »

but its not though is it. Almunia has made several mistakes and Seaman made a few too there's no point denying and bad ones at that. i don't particularly want to get into it either so that's all i have to say. i have seen arsenal being loyal to too many players who let them down in big games over the years. letting a ball fall out of your hand fair enough or playing a bad goal kick, fine it can happen, but being caught off your line from 40 yards is inexcusable and proves a sheer lack of concentration.it wont do Almunia any good if he's left play on. drop him and let him prove ho keen he is to amend his mistakes.

So who would you like to have?

DenMan

Fabianski must be chomping at the bit now.

wandatowell

I think Wenger prefers to have an experienced keeper between the sticks, might explain why he stuck with Super Dave and Lehmann for long

wandatowell

Frisbee wrote: »

Last year I really do think we would have won the League if it wasnt for the Birmingham match.
We lost Eduardo who was our form striker at the time, he was banging them in for funsies.
Gallas' strop really didnt help the team's morale aswell. It was after that game we went on our streak of draws. And we still finished only 4 points behind.

that fookin match, heartbreaking. Theo scored two lovely goals that day.

Wreck

Deleted User wrote: »

i think any goalkeeper that gets caught from 40 yards should not be defended, just get him out of the club.

This is what you said, and what I strongly object to.

Deleted User wrote: »

letting a ball fall out of your hand fair enough or playing a bad goal kick, fine it can happen, but being caught off your line from 40 yards is inexcusable and proves a sheer lack of concentration.it wont do Almunia any good if he's left play on. drop him and let him prove ho keen he is to amend his mistakes.

Almunia has played extremely well this season, and it hasn't exactly been easy for him given the defence has been so dodgy. And now people want him dropped for a single mistake. Its absolutely crazy. And furthermore, I'm one hundred per cent certain if we had held on to win last night you would not be on here ranting about getting Almunia out of the club.

Arsenal1986

Almunia ha an absolute belter of a game against fenerbache some amazing saves only a week ago an ppl are turning on him after one bad night.......I wouldnt be too worrie about last night for 89 minutes we were brilliant dominating a class above spurs.....

wandatowell

to be fair to manu he's had a weak defence infront of him this year and he's done pretty well, he's a good keeper

gandalf

To all those who are asking for Wengers head I have two words for you "Bruce Rioch".

As the intelligent have said if Wenger wasn't there then we would be mid table material.

jesus_thats_gre

Arsenal getting rid of Wenger would be one of the most retarded things they could do as a club. While Wenger isn't the only person who could do as well with a similar level of expenditure, it would take extremely long for the person who comes in to get their own players and personnel in. The players there at the moment would also seem to have a major affiliation with Wenger and would possibly jump ship if he was to leave.

What Wenger has done with so little money is amazing. I think that is actually starting to work against him now however. In recent seasons, Wenger and Arsenal have come very close to winning quite a bit but have ultimately failed at the final hurdle. In alot of cases, the shortcomings in the squad has been obvious. At the beginning of the year, it was suspected that lacking a quality experienced defensive midfielder may cost them.

I think that the players are aware of the shortcomings and the longer they are there, grow frustrated with the club's or Wenger's unwillingness to shell out for an immediate solution. I am nearly convinced that while the players obviously respect Wenger, they possibly see the lack of money being spent as a lack of ambition. I think that this is what allows your best players heads to be turned by "bigger" clubs.

History/heritage and money being spent on ambition are two things that attract top players to clubs. Arsenal are obviously a big club but they are not anywhere near as highly regarded internationally as United, Liverpool, Milan, Madrid and so on. Chelsea made up for this by splashing the cash. Arsenal are sort of on the second tier of clubs on a worldwide scale while also being on the second or third tier in terms of spending.

I genuinely believe that is Wenger spent 20 or million every year or two on a world class player to fill obvious holes, that it would complement the youth policy and make a clear statement as to their intent or ambitions. This would end the situation of your top players being courted like occurred during the summer and would undoubtedly lead to success on the pitch.

I think that Liverpool, while having overspent for years, have nearly achieved the perfect balance in the the past year. That is reflected in there no longer being rumblings of Gerard leaving or there never being any talk of Torres or other top players being tapped up. Agger is the only one in recent years and that was Milan trying to take advantage of him being dissatisfied at the lack of first team games.

Hope i have made my point clearly. Posted on my phone so hard to read over the post.

wandatowell

gandalf wrote: »

To all those who are asking for Wengers head I have two words for you "Bruce Rioch".

As the intelligent have said if Wenger wasn't there then we would be mid table material.

As far was I know Bruce Rioch was only there as a stop gap measure till
Wenger finished up his contract with Grampus8, saying that tho in that he managed to alienate wrighty from the squad. Called him a "big time charlie" if memory serves

PHB

The thing I find hilarious is that people think that Wenger has loads of money to spend, but chooses not to spend it. Ultimately, I think thats bs. He is severly restricted by the board who are desperate to make profits even during this transitional financial situation.

DenMan

Starting team for today:

Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Toure, Silvestre, Clichy, Denilson, Fabregas, Song Billong, Diaby, Adebayor, Bendtner

Subs: Fabianski, Nasri, Van Persie, Vela, Walcott, Ramsey, Djourou.

Let's get back to winning ways today. Come on Arsenal. Strong bench for the second half.

wandatowell

dont believe it, one nil to stoke, from a delap throw in!!!!

Dunno if toure is to blame, i thought he was being fouled at the backpost but
still our weak centre has been exposed again

OPENROAD

PHB wrote: »

The thing I find hilarious is that people think that Wenger has loads of money to spend, but chooses not to spend it. Ultimately, I think thats bs. He is severly restricted by the board who are desperate to make profits even during this transitional financial situation.

The accounts don't appear to back this up, the board continue to state that funds are available. However Arsenal as a club have a policy of only spending money that they HAVE unlike lots of teams. A good policy considering the economic climate. For some reason Arsene does not want to spend the money.

wandatowell

another delap throw in, guess what? another stoke goal

newbie2

And now van persies off. This is fcukin' unreal

Helix

was rvp a straight red?

he'll miss the villa game if it was

wandatowell

newbie2 wrote: »

And now van persies off. This is fcukin' unreal

I know man, did you see it?? what was he doing like? holy crap

wandatowell

Helix wrote: »

was rvp a straight red?

he'll miss the villa game if it was

ya straight red, it was needless, keeper picked up the ball after a chested backpass and robin charges over and busts into him with his shoulder/elbow.

Atleast Cesc got rid of the stupid haircut

Quazzie

Is the game on telly?

Helix

wandatowell wrote: »

ya straight red, it was needless, keeper picked up the ball after a chested backpass and robin charges over and busts into him with his shoulder/elbow.

lovely jubbley