Recent Civil Service AO/Third Sec Comp

Shatner

Results are out. Missed out Stage 2 of Third Sec comp by 8 places on the order of merit - gutted! Did better on the AO (ICT). Must have been the damned Job Analysis that sank me.

n.catenthusiast

I'm a bit confused. I didn't go for third sec, but I did go for both AO in the Revenue and Civil Service. The email I got just detailed my position for AO in Revenue, with no mention of any poisiton in the CS.

has anyone else received anything similar/completely different?



oh hang on, I just got a second email ten minutes later with the info!

jayteecork

I just got the messages as well.

How do you know you missed out?
Where does it state the cut off point for the Order of Merit?

I'm curious how many people applied for the 3rd secertary/AO.

I got my results but not sure how good they are. It says I'm on the order of merit but my place is in 3 figures.

Tan Princess

I got 392 on the AO exam but they didn't say how many go onto the next stage. For the 3rd sec they said 190 will the AO be similar or less?

pvt.joker

Not to worry OP. Chances are there won't be any appointments made anyway with all the cutbacks and recruitment freezes that have been announced.

Ste.phen

pvt.joker wrote: »

Not to worry OP. Chances are there won't be any appointments made anyway with all the cutbacks and recruitment freezes that have been announced.

he's hardly gonna worry less over that, is he?

pvt.joker

Igy wrote: »

he's hardly gonna worry less over that, is he?

well it might lessen the blow for him anyway

jayteecork

Got 4 results, all to do with AO. My scores range from 159 to a s hite 750!
How many sat the test altogether? Do those order of merit places reflect your region or the whole of Ireland?
I have a degree in Mathematics so I aced the numerical, did well enough in Verbal but say I f ucked up the job simulation.

Pissed off a bit as I got 12th in the order of merit in Clerical officer.
Which wasn't much good to me because they took so long contacting me for an interview I was back in college.

Nothing about 3rd sec for me at all.

n.catenthusiast

Tan Princess wrote: »

I got 392 on the AO exam but they didn't say how many go onto the next stage. For the 3rd sec they said 190 will the AO be similar or less?

Wha? I got position 392 on the AO too! Is that for revenue or general civil service entry?

very confudling.....

Slartibartfast

That's mad I got told I was 392 as well for the AO. Just for the civil service one. We couldn't all be 392.

jayteecork

n.catenthusiast wrote: »

Wha? I got position 392 on the AO too! Is that for revenue or general civil service entry?

very confudling.....

I got places on the order of merit for four different AO thingies.

pvt.joker

eh....I got 392 too...

This is a mistake surely?

Shatner

I'm new to this but as far as I know the Maths is pass/fail i.e. you need to get X amount of them correct to pass but the results do not affect your place on the order of merit (so getting them all right is not much benefit). This info is based on what someone working in the CS told me so it may be wrong (and my apologies if it is).

So it's the Verbal and the Job Analysis combined that give you the ranking.

I think there were 5000+ people doing the exam this time round between the Revenue/IT/Third Sec comps with people doing different combinations of tests.

jayteecork

Shatner wrote: »

I'm new to this but as far as I know the Maths is pass/fail i.e. you need to get X amount of them correct to pass but the results do not affect your place on the order of merit (so getting them all right is not much benefit). This info is based on what someone working in the CS told me so it may be wrong (and my apologies if it is).

So it's the Verbal and the Job Analysis combined that give you the ranking.

I think there were 5000+ people doing the exam this time round between the Revenue/IT/Third Sec comps with people doing different combinations of tests.

Man that sucks.
I was banking on my numerical ability to bump my score.

Tan Princess

n.catenthusiast wrote: »

Wha? I got position 392 on the AO too! Is that for revenue or general civil service entry?

very confudling.....

Weird. Mine was just for civil service I didn't do the revenue one.

JonThom

I also got 392 on the AO exam. What's with that?

Esel

Numerical test - you must hit pass mark. Actual score is not used to determine final marks. Apparently, it's an anti-discrimination measure, as males score better on this test than females (in general).

Re: 392. Could be that you all got the same final score.

elmyra

I got 333 in AO but no email as yet about 3rd Sec.

I suspect if people get identical marks, which is entirely possible in standardised testing, then you might all be placed on 392 but depending on how many people are on 392 there might be no 393, 394, 295 and the person placed after you might be four hundred and something if you get what I mean. Also, I might be entirely wrong.

jayteecork

I can't see how my order of merit can range from 159 to 750 after doing the same test.

Maybe my numerical were taken into account for some of them?

I defo got 100% in that. piss of cake for me.

Shatner

But you would have done different job analysis exams for each post.

jayteecork

I did 2 job simulation. AO and 3rd sec. AO contained about 50% the same questions as 3rd sec, which we did first.

I haven't heard anything about my 3rd sec performance, but to be honest, I don't think I'd be suited to the post.

Cadet?

Well I'm pissed off.....Missed out on Thirdsec by about 20 places- which is the one I really wanted. Anyone know whether much people turn down their places in the second round and maybe I could sneak in?

Came around 160 in AO- good enough to be called for interview?

n.catenthusiast

elmyra wrote: »

I got 333 in AO but no email as yet about 3rd Sec.

I suspect if people get identical marks, which is entirely possible in standardised testing, then you might all be placed on 392 but depending on how many people are on 392 there might be no 393, 394, 295 and the person placed after you might be four hundred and something if you get what I mean. Also, I might be entirely wrong.

I was thinking the same thing, but it would be pretty coincidental if four of us in that situation alll happened to post on boards at the same time. I reckoin there's a fair few 392'ers (as we shall now be known as) out there, just as lost and confused as we are.

No doubt there's some sort of twisted logic behind this, but i've yet to suss it out.

Johnny Utah

Very vague message from publicjobs.


I applied for both AO in Rev and 3rd Sec, but they didn't send any results regarding the 3rd Secretary.


Got placed 221 for AO in Rev Commissioners. Is this good or bad?

Also, I thought they were only calling 200 for interview, but the message I got on publicjobs said further stages conducted by Revenue.

notlongleft

i came 250's in the AO for Revenue - i came in the top 100 the last time and heard nothing at all so its pretty ****!!!!

quad_red

This was my third time doing these exams.

First time did way better in AO than 3rd sec but didn't get either.

Second time did way better in 3rd sec and got called to the 2nd stage.

This time did much better in the AO than 3rd sec. May get called for AO to compete for non existent jobs.

I think the entire process in bunkum to be honest. And it's the last time I'll be bothered with it!

jayteecork

Still heard nothing from 3rd Sec.

F uck it. I'll look elsewhere.

5800 people going for about 10 jobs.

Naw Kler Meh

I got 1021 in order of Merit for AO :eek:
Why don't they just say 'better luck next time' rather than bothering to say they will be in touch!

pretty*monster

Accoring to the emails I got place 228 for third secretary and place 3 for AO.
Considering the tests were almost identical I don't understand how this can possibly right.

jayteecork

pretty*monster wrote: »

Accoring to the emails I got place 228 for third secretary and place 3 for AO.
Considering the tests were almost identical I don't understand how this can possibly right.

congrats on place 3.

Some people might have just done the 3rd Sec and not AO maybe?

pretty*monster

jayteecork wrote: »

congrats on place 3.

Thanks. Probably no one will believe that I took the exam with a hangover.

jayteecork wrote: »

Some people might have just done the 3rd Sec and not AO maybe?

Yeah, but presumably that would mean that the standard of people just taking the third secretary exam is an awful lot higher...