Climate Change Delusions

petermcqueen

Finally people are starting to speak out about the climate change scam:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23991257-25717,00.html

http://www.alabamawx.com/?p=7509

We know that the climate change scam is nothing more than a war on mankind. Important quotes from "The First Global Revolution" by the club of rome, available here; http://www.scribd.com/doc/2341179/1991-CoR-First-Global-Revolution-OCR-Mrkva

"It would seem that humans need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act togeather in the vacum; such a motivation must be found to bring the divided nations togeather to face an outside enemy, either a real one ir else one invented for the purpose."

"new enemies therefore have to be identified"

"New strategies imagined, new weapons devised"

"The common enemy of humanity is man"

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill."

"All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."




It is clearly obvious that the people are the victims of yet another scam.

I suggest that people research the material, educate yourselves and don't voluntarily build your own chains of enslavement.

Sherifu

Such a nice post. Did you get a monkey to help you format it?

Overheal

wow. format hell. clean up your post eh?

Steve_o

Thats alot of ....

"The common enemy of humanity is man"...lol, where do these guys come out of??

Archeron

To help combat this supposed global warming, I've been holding in my farts for nearly two years now.
Does this mean I can finally let them out?? Stand clear everybody!!!!

whiskeyman

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:pac:

gixerfixer

There you go then.Prove that global warming is a myth.You sell big SUV's for a living dont you?:)

Climate Expert

Its hard to call it a scam as nobody is really perpetuating the myth under false pretences. The reasons global warming is so 'hot' right now are complicated. But a lot of it is peoples irrational need for fear, a shared experience of disaster, the political/scientific process and theres a large part of society who are against any kind of modern progress who have latched onto this cause with vigour. The sort of people who alwasy thought cars/planes etc. are wrong and evil and who now have reason to believe so.

dr.bollocko

The science behind climate change is nothing but a complete load of absolute ****e that has been twisted to appear to prove the bull**** hypotheses.

petermcqueen

Climate Expert wrote: »

Its hard to call it a scam as nobody is really perpetuating the myth under false pretences.

There are thousands of people who have been had. They really believe that an apocolypse is on its way. Pure media brainwashed clowns.

See the link about the boy saying he is afraid that by drinking water he will cause the deaths of millions.

Wreck

petermcqueen wrote: »

"The common enemy of humanity is man"

Lol, just fu*king lol.

petermcqueen

gixerfixer wrote: »

There you go then.Prove that global warming is a myth.You sell big SUV's for a living dont you?:)

Not the case.

I do know that you spout media ingrained responses to given situations...

Mr. Incognito

6 billion people polluting. Of course it's all a giant scam. Mother Earth is INVINCIBLE!!

petermcqueen

Wreck wrote: »

Lol, just fu*king lol.

Whats funny about that???

You clearly do not realise the complexity of the situation, mate the real world is a lot different from your television fantasies.

Climate Expert

There are thousands of people who have been had. They really believe that an apocolypse is on its way. Pure media brainwashed clowns.

See the link about the boy saying he is afraid that by drinking water he will cause the deaths of millions.

Sure read the green forum here. (Which I'm banned from)
Some suggestions from greens about how to save the planet from overconsumption and global warming are
1. Legal enforcement of vegetarianism
2. Legal enforement of one child policies.
And many other wacko polcies.
These people are ****ing scary. Probably the biggest threat to our world at the moment in my opinion.

petermcqueen

SetantaL wrote: »

6 billion people polluting. Of course it's all a giant scam. Mother Earth is INVINCIBLE!!

Who mentioned pollution?? Of course pollution is a real problem, however climate change is a scam. And carbon taxes/carbon quotas are just madness. See Gordy Brown who is introducting the first "green taxes" on cars. Only the beginning.

Climate Expert

Flights are going to go up in cost in the next ten years through green taxes as well.
The govts. around the world are overjoyed at this great excuse to tax people.

petermcqueen

Climate Expert wrote: »

These people are ****ing scary. Probably the biggest threat to our world at the moment in my opinion.

I agree. And anyone with young children should take a look at the school curriculum, it had moved away from basic maths, science, english to what could be described as "humanitarian" "save the world" stuff. The education system is now producing children who have no real information, they merely spout what the teachers say. Society is shaped and moulded at will.

"oh stupid man, is there nothing you will not believe"

petermcqueen

Climate Expert wrote: »

Flights are going to go up in cost in the next ten years through green taxes as well.
The govts. around the world are overjoyed at this great excuse to tax people.

Yes, and the media will always interview a stupid scared mother on television. She will say that the world needs to be saved and that more taxes are needed.

I myself was interviewed by Duncan from RTE on grafton street one day. Needless to say my opinions on climate change were not included on his show, although two other lunatics were shown, spouting the government line, and supposedly representling the people.??????????

dr.bollocko

Their arguments are a complete load of horses arse. I have come across this before on boards and all and is the reason why i leave the holier-than-thou green forum to the crusties.
Vegetarianism is not going to save the world. Their arguments that it will are spurious.
I cant stand the green crap they spout. Makes me want to grow venom ducts.

Climate Expert

He's the classic middle class green. Its ok to care about the enviroment and you eco house when you have as much money as him.

I remember him protesting about one -off housing that was ruinging the countryside. One off housing is only ok for him and his architect friends to produce their spectacular houses. Actual housing for the common man wasn't to his liking.
He got tore apart by another guy on the debate.

Wreck

petermcqueen wrote: »

Whats funny about that???

You clearly do not realise the complexity of the situation, mate the real world is a lot different from your television fantasies.

Don't call me mate, pal. Also i don't watch TV, global warming made me go blind.

dr.bollocko

Wreck wrote: »

Don't call me mate, pal. Also i don't watch TV, global warming made me go blind.

Don't call me pal, buddy!
I dont watch tv either. Masturbation made my climate change.

Wreck

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Don't call me pal, buddy!
I dont watch tv either. Masturbation made my climate change.

Unfortunately, I can't masturbate anymore either, because noxious emissions from cars gave me erectile dysfunction. Its not all that common, but it can happen on occasion, especially if you are in the habit of sticking your co*k up exhaust pipes.

dr.bollocko

Wreck wrote: »

Unfortunately, I can't masturbate anymore either, because noxious emissions from cars gave me erectile dysfunction. Its not all that common, but it can happen on occasion, especially if you are in the habit of sticking your co*k up exhaust pipes.

Fender bender eh?
:pac::pac::pac::pac:

super_furry

http://anglopapist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tin-foil-hat.jpg

petermcqueen

One only has to look at the change.ie website to see the evidence of this madness.

Why is it called "change" and not "climate change", because the climate it only the stick used to beat the people into a different pen.

It is about changing human perceptions, not the climate.

Wreck

petermcqueen wrote: »

One only has to look at the change.ie website to see the evidence of this madness.

Why is it called "change" and not "climate change", because the climate it only the stick used to beat the people into a different pen.

It is about changing human perceptions, not the climate.

I thought we had successfully derailed this thread, stop trying to get it back on topic. We've all ready ridiculed the ideas in the op, what more do you want?

dr.bollocko

I want Jim Corr on our side.
Wait, he's not a f***ing vegan is he?

MOH

petermcqueen wrote: »

"The common enemy of humanity is man"

So we really are our own worst enemy?

It is clearly obvious that the people are the victims of yet another scam.

[pedantor] As opposed to not very clearly obvious? [/pedantor]

petermcqueen wrote: »

Of course pollution is a real problem, however climate change is a scam.

Just to be clear, you're saying that any climate change is a scam. So even people who say the earth's climate is changing as a result of a natural long-term cycle, they're still scamsters, because there's no such thing as climate change at all (and therefore there presumably was never an ice age, since we're not in one right now, and climate never changes)

petermcqueen wrote: »

I myself was interviewed by Duncan from RTE on grafton street one day. Needless to say my opinions on climate change were not included on his show, although two other lunatics were shown, spouting the government line, and supposedly representling the people.??????????

You do realise you've just implied that you yourself are a lunatic?

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I want Jim Corr on our side.
Wait, he's not a f***ing vegan is he?

I want the rest of the Corrs on my .. wait, is this a family forum?

petermcqueen

MOH wrote: »

Just to be clear, you're saying that any climate change is a scam. So even people who say the earth's climate is changing as a result of a natural long-term cycle, they're still scamsters, because there's no such thing as climate change at all (and therefore there presumably was never an ice age, since we're not in one right now, and climate never changes)



You do realise you've just implied that you yourself are a lunatic?

I can guarantee you are prime irish middle class twat.

Now to point a few things out, it is assumed when dealing with climate change/co2 issues, one is talking about man made influences. Although man does not have any effect on climate change, blanket media coverage points the finger in this direction. Also we know the climate changes constantly.

You might want to read a few books on logic. I in no way implied that i was a lunatic. You are a classic linear thinker, you could be lead up the garden path without even questioning your choices.

And another thing, why is it only the middle class do gooder twat who is promotes and supports man made climate change issues. Clearly as the big boys know, the more educated you are, the more docile and gullible you become. (and that is not to even mention the smugness of the middle class striver made good).

Sherifu

petermcqueen wrote: »

I can guarantee you are prime irish middle class twat.

Fail.

AlmightyCushion

petermcqueen wrote: »

I can guarantee you are prime irish middle class twat.

Now to point a few things out, it is assumed when dealing with climate change/co2 issues, one is talking about man made influences. Although man does not have any effect on climate change, blanket media coverage points the finger in this direction. Also we know the climate changes constantly.

You might want to read a few books on logic. I in no way implied that i was a lunatic. You are a classic linear thinker, you could be lead up the garden path without even questioning your choices.

And another thing, why is it only the middle class do gooder twat who is promotes and supports man made climate change issues. Clearly as the big boys know, the more educated you are, the more docile and gullible you become. (and that is not to even mention the smugness of the middle class striver made good).

Learn to debate the topic without resorting to abuse. I won't warn you again.

petermcqueen

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Learn to debate the topic without resorting to abuse. I won't warn you again.

Sorry, but are you the fella with the bebo page???

in the words of my good friend; "the fool's reproach, its a kingly title"

Sherifu

Not a bad rereg I guess. Got 20 posts out of it. :pac:

Sarky

petermcqueen wrote: »

And another thing, why is it only the middle class do gooder twat who is promotes and supports man made climate change issues. Clearly as the big boys know, the more educated you are, the more docile and gullible you become. (and that is not to even mention the smugness of the middle class striver made good).

Yup, you can't walk ten metres down a street in Zimbabwe without tripping over university queues and PhDs sipping lattes in cafés talking about how everything is just super. Ho ho ho, that Mugabe, making sure everyone's too smart to oppose him, what a genius.

Tell you what, show me some proof that humanity has no effect on the world's weather patterns, and I'll start believing you. Here's a definition of "proof" just in case you're not too sure what it means. You can put it right next to a definition of "insane" for comparison.

PrivateEye

the vast majority of pollution is as a result of the likes of China and their love for cheap mass production. Seeing just how keen the lads in China are on human rights, it's surprising they don't care more about the environment.

When you take China, India and other manufacturing heavy weights...and add the military states like North Korea and the U.S (more so in the past) with regards to Arms testing, it quickly becomes clear turning off your lightbulbs isn't worth much.

Sure even the Green Party, the party who apparently love the environment so much, have to take some of the blame. Look at Eamon Ryans change of stance on Shell in Mayo even. They don't want to point figures at big-business, but rather tell us about the 'power of one' and the rest.

So long as the 'quick buck' comes first, the environment will suffer. I really doubt Climate Change is some scam either myself :rolleyes: It's very real. What isn't real is the way people think we can deal with it.

All the middle class rubbish in the Irish Times magazine about organic this that and the other is just people patting themselves on the back, which is normally covered by a sweatshop t-shirt....but at least the chickens had somewhere to run around. The obsession with free-range and organic/ eco friendly stuff is more about projecting an image of themselves as sympathetic 'aware' folk.

Green Party voters are apparently among the wealthiest anyway (No statistics handy, they are online- apparently the PDs, the Greens and Labour voters are generally the wealthiest- with FF the most popular among the overall wearing proletarian 'wurkin' class' ) They tend to be the ones who can afford all the eco-friendly rubbish. Ordinary people are more worried about paying bills than switching the car so it runs on bloody vegetable oil.

Saying all that,
1) I am a vegetarian
2) I've no interest in owning a car

but I despise all this 'you can save the world' nonsense.

I'm not belittling all environmentalists, just the lifestylists who refuse to acknowledge the realities of climate change. Look at Al Gore, the bloke is running a power-station of a house and driving some gas-guzzler around and telling us we can save the world.

I want Jim Corr on our side.

Jim Corr is busy chasing the Jewish Neo-Cons who brought down the twin towers, and the lizard people who control the 'Zionist media'

I want Jim Corr on the otherside of the world.

Jack Sheehan

Is this Casey again?

dr.bollocko

I whole heartedly endorse this Mc. Queen chap. Great sort. Cheering me up no end.

Tar.Aldarion

Climate Expert wrote: »

Sure read the green forum here. (Which I'm banned from)
Some suggestions from greens about how to save the planet from overconsumption and global warming are
1. Legal enforcement of vegetarianism

Sounds good to me.
/plans
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humanji

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Is this Casey again?

Who else could it be?

I for one am all for man changing the environment. There are too many ugly girls near me and I don't need to see them in short skirts and belly tops. More rain I say, more rain!!!

Jack Sheehan

Damn if he isn't the most persistent troll I've ever seen.

dr.bollocko

Any argument that states that vegetarianism of any sort is somehow better for the environment is both spurious and illogical.
that is all.

Tar.Aldarion

It's probably better for thirsty people, 100,000(:pac:) litres of water are needed to produce a single kilo of beef. woot
Although there'sa lot of water on eartheee

petermcqueen

PrivateEye wrote: »

the vast majority of pollution is as a result of the likes of China and their love for cheap mass production. Seeing just how keen the lads in China are on human rights, it's surprising they don't care more about the environment.

When you take China, India and other manufacturing heavy weights...and add the military states like North Korea and the U.S (more so in the past) with regards to Arms testing, it quickly becomes clear turning off your lightbulbs isn't worth much.

Sure even the Green Party, the party who apparently love the environment so much, have to take some of the blame. Look at Eamon Ryans change of stance on Shell in Mayo even. They don't want to point figures at big-business, but rather tell us about the 'power of one' and the rest.

So long as the 'quick buck' comes first, the environment will suffer. I really doubt Climate Change is some scam either myself :rolleyes: It's very real. What isn't real is the way people think we can deal with it.

All the middle class rubbish in the Irish Times magazine about organic this that and the other is just people patting themselves on the back, which is normally covered by a sweatshop t-shirt....but at least the chickens had somewhere to run around. The obsession with free-range and organic/ eco friendly stuff is more about projecting an image of themselves as sympathetic 'aware' folk.

Green Party voters are apparently among the wealthiest anyway (No statistics handy, they are online- apparently the PDs, the Greens and Labour voters are generally the wealthiest- with FF the most popular among the overall wearing proletarian 'wurkin' class' ) They tend to be the ones who can afford all the eco-friendly rubbish. Ordinary people are more worried about paying bills than switching the car so it runs on bloody vegetable oil.

Saying all that,
1) I am a vegetarian
2) I've no interest in owning a car

but I despise all this 'you can save the world' nonsense.

I'm not belittling all environmentalists, just the lifestylists who refuse to acknowledge the realities of climate change. Look at Al Gore, the bloke is running a power-station of a house and driving some gas-guzzler around and telling us we can save the world.



Jim Corr is busy chasing the Jewish Neo-Cons who brought down the twin towers, and the lizard people who control the 'Zionist media'

I want Jim Corr on the otherside of the world.

India and China, India and China, India and China. I am telling you, all those people studying for exams are mad. Just write India and China as the answer to all questions/problems and you cannot go wrong.

Look at the bigger picture. Why has all industry transferred to India and China??? Why have India and China no environmental constraints like the rest of the world??? Look iknto the GATT treaty.

This is all planned down to the last detail, the government are not good guys. You are there to serve them, don't forget that.

petermcqueen

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

It's probably better for thirsty people, 100,000(:pac:) litres of water are needed to produce a single kilo of beef. woot
Although there'sa lot of water on eartheee

Rubbish.

What, was the cow chatting to the man in the white coat?

humanji

Oh just f*ck off.

Tar.Aldarion

petermcqueen wrote: »

Rubbish.

What, was the cow chatting to the man in the white coat?

R. Goodland & D. Pimentel, 'Sustainability and Integrity in the Agriculture Sector,' Ecological Integrity: Integrating Environment, Conservation and Health, D. Pimentel, L. Westra, R. F. Noss (eds), Island Press, 2000.

AlmightyCushion

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

It's probably better for thirsty people, 100,000(:pac:) litres of water are needed to produce a single kilo of beef. woot
Although there'sa lot of water on eartheee

Then that means it's good for earth. If we keep making shít loads of beef, then the sea level won't rise when global warming causes the ice caps to melt.

El_Dangeroso

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

It's probably better for thirsty people, 100,000(:pac:) litres of water are needed to produce a single kilo of beef. woot
Although there'sa lot of water on eartheee

Please explain to me who is thirsty and why me giving up meat would magically ensure they have water. Irish beef uses very little water. The example you cite is for factory farmed meat where cows are confined to inhumane housing and fed unnatural food that makes them sick, which in turn leads them to be pumped full of pharmaceuticals.

Not good or heathy for anyone involved.

Most Irish beef is pasture fed ergo, heathier, happier cows and healthier, tastier meat, higher in omega 3 (good), lower in omega 6 (good).

They also fart less and are more or less carbon neutral!

Monoculture of corn and wheat is far more detrimental to the environment. People should do their research before falling for vegan propaganda.

Dudess

petermcqueen wrote: »

Sorry, but are you the fella with the bebo page???

in the words of my good friend; "the fool's reproach, its a kingly title"

For the personal abuse and the above on-thread questioning of a moderator's decision in an abusive manner, you can take a banning.

By the way, wasn't there very pronounced climate change in the United States when the settlers arrived there and started felling acres of trees...?