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KILL YOUR IDOLS! Bands/Artists you once loved...but now despise!

  • 10-07-2008 9:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭


    Back in the day I was a fan of MOD (Method of Destruction)
    I was drawn to the tunes but also loved Billy Milano's (often politically incorrect) sense of humour.

    However a year or two ago I checked out his website/blog.

    He's a racist fcuker!

    MOD cd's in the bin! :(

    Does anyone else have similar tales.
    Maybe you met your heros and they were dicks etc.

    Try and keep them fact based
    i.e. NO "Morissey's a racist, I think I heard it after someone I kinda know read NME" etc etc etc.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    jimmy eat world.

    have turned fecking awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭ZakAttak


    I was dissapointed to see Beck become a Scientologist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    ZakAttak wrote: »
    I was dissapointed to see Beck become a Scientologist.

    He was raised as a Scientologist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭oldscoil


    Also bands that sue each other :(

    Smiths :(
    Dead Kennedys :(
    Violent Femmes :(


    Then again, I've worked with people that have had their snidey evil little way to make it look like they did all the work, giving credit to themselves and keeping others out of the picture as much as possible.......
    .....AND I'D LOVE TO TAKE THAT FCUKER TO THE CLEANERS :(

    .....or kick is head fcukin head in .....whichever is good :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭ZakAttak


    He was raised as a Scientologist.

    ==>My mistake, didn't realise- I just assumed he joined in with the recent wave of conversions. They're still a bunch of whack-jobs though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Was a big foo fighters fan back when i was 14-18. I wouldn't say I hate them now, but a combination of me growing up and them getting worse means I don't really have any time for them anymore.

    What I don't get is that I saw them in a smallish venue in Dublin which is not to be named, when they toured on the back of There is Nothing Left to Lose, which imo is their last decent album. Since then they've released 2 mediocre and one fairly poor album (the latest one, pure shíte), but they're now selling out stadiums? The power of marketing never ceases to amaze me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Guns N' Roses, used to love em but after hearing the Chinese Democracy demos I no longer look forward to it's release. Axl has raped all the passion and uniqueness out of the band now they just sound like generic crap metal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    Public Enemy- going on reality telly is never good.

    Neil Young- time to retire.

    (I Can't Believe It's Not)The Misfits- as above.

    Jimmy Eat World and Weezer- "aint what they used to be, aint what they used to be..."

    Green Day- The energy of the early CDs is just gone by the wayside.

    Dead Kennedys- because let's be honest, it's not really the Dead Kennedys now is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭JaneyMc


    The Killers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭deaddonkey


    Was a big foo fighters fan back when i was 14-18. I wouldn't say I hate them now, but a combination of me growing up and them getting worse means I don't really have any time for them anymore.

    What I don't get is that I saw them in a smallish venue in Dublin which is not to be named, when they toured on the back of There is Nothing Left to Lose, which imo is their last decent album. Since then they've released 2 mediocre and one fairly poor album (the latest one, pure shíte), but they're now selling out stadiums? The power of marketing never ceases to amaze me.

    i agree with this post, and it was a good gig, dec. 2000 yeah?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    PrivateEye wrote: »
    Public Enemy- going on reality telly is never good.

    Neil Young- time to retire.

    (I Can't Believe It's Not)The Misfits- as above.

    Jimmy Eat World and Weezer- "aint what they used to be, aint what they used to be..."

    Green Day- The energy of the early CDs is just gone by the wayside.

    Dead Kennedys- because let's be honest, it's not really the Dead Kennedys now is it?

    Flav had the reality TV show, not Chuck.

    Metallica.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Muse. Took a horrible direction.
    A lot of the hiphop I listened to as a kid was woeful ****.
    Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Were cool up to.. say.. Blood Sugar Sex Magic?
    Kanyé. First album was outstanding but who would've though he'd be such a douche?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭blindpilot


    Green Day
    Everclear
    The Offspring
    Stereophonics
    Manic Street Preachers
    System Of A Down
    Red Hot Chilli Peppers
    Korn
    Jimmy Eat World
    Incubus
    Idlewild
    Helmet
    Foo Fighters
    Deftones

    Cant listen to them anymore. All their recent albums have been big disappointments in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    As a kid I loved all that dire pop music that was in the charts (The likes of B*Witchd, Aqua and The Vengaboys) Looking back, I realise they weren't quite the musical mavericks I thought they were at the time :) (although I heard Aqua's Turn Back Time the other day and that was a good song - they should have done more serious stuff.)

    Then I went through a bit of an R 'n' B phase - the likes of Destin'ys Child, J.Lo and Aaliyah. Each had a few good songs and then an album full of filler shite. The only R'n'B band I still listen to now is TLC.

    Then when all that was done I went through a Korn phase. I was never a goth and I didn't listen to any other metal bands but for some reason I liked Korn.
    Now some of their stuff is ok (I like Here To Stay and a few songs of Issues but really it was pretty much the same old stuff over and over again. I really hate it when bands that don't branch out and try new directions.

    Coldplay was an odd one for me. I loathed Yellow and didn't like Trouble so initially I hated them.
    Then they released In My Place and Clocks and I thought "Hmm...maybe this band is good after all." I even considered getting their second album.

    Then their third album was realeased and I realised that Chris Martin was an irritating preachy ****er with a whiney nasally voice who wrote generic dull music. He's on my death list now, and I can't listen to Clocks (a song I once liked) anymore because I just want to shoot Chris Martin in the head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭Ekels


    I'd probably put most of the generic indie/ guitar-pop I was listening to a few years back down here:
    Coldplay
    The Killers
    Oasis
    Snow Patrol (the last album anyway)
    Kaiser Chiefs

    That sort of crap. I listen to Sonic Youth now though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Placid_Casual


    newblue08 wrote: »

    Manic Street Preachers



    Cant listen to them anymore. All their recent albums have been big disappointments in my opinion.

    Would agree with you up to Send Away The Tigers which I thought was a great return to form.

    Anyway, its got to be Oasis for me. I loved the first two albums, especially Definitely Maybe. I bought Be Here Now the day it came out. It was, without doubt, the most disappointing album i've ever purchased. I haven't cared for them since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Parachutes by Coldplay, I used to like it and still do, it has some very good songs, cool musical ideas, etc. But anything they've released since I've strongly disliked, except the scientist.

    Used to be into Jeff Buckley, still like some of his songs but mostly haven't gone near grace for 8 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Wouldn't say I'd despise them now but I certainly think they've become very bland - my one-time heroes, New Order.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    REM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Was a big foo fighters fan back when i was 14-18. I wouldn't say I hate them now, but a combination of me growing up and them getting worse means I don't really have any time for them anymore.

    What I don't get is that I saw them in a smallish venue in Dublin which is not to be named, when they toured on the back of There is Nothing Left to Lose, which imo is their last decent album. Since then they've released 2 mediocre and one fairly poor album (the latest one, pure shíte), but they're now selling out stadiums? The power of marketing never ceases to amaze me.

    They also deny that HIV causes AIDs.

    Yeah.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭BAZM8


    REM.

    +1.

    Was an obsessive fan in the 80's early 90's and I still think Document and Lifes Rich Pagent are superb. Their last decent album was Green though which i saw them tour in 1990 in Wembly Arena. Since then have gone sh1te in a major which i've traced to 2 causes:

    1. Bill Berry becoming a farmer
    2. Micheal Stipe's singing becoming coherent.

    Wouldn't say i despise them but i do avoid them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭BAZM8


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    They also deny that HIV causes AIDs.

    Yeah.

    WTF??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭ZakAttak


    Aphex Twin.

    Now to be honest, I do still like some of his stuff- but I've really gone off him over the past year. Too much fiddly drum machine bollocks. Endless tracks of repetivtive random sh1t. I got 26 mixes for cash, and I can state quite categorically that, on the whole, that album is awful. Of the 26 songs about 3 are half decent, if even. It seems as though alot of people think this but are afraid to say it in case they'd be accused of not 'understanding' the music- whatever the fvck that means.

    and he's been doing the same music since he started- no variation or change, his latest stuff sounds just like what he was releasing 10 years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    Agree with the Foos. I saw them in 1995 in the SFX when they were touring the self titled debut. Absolutely amazing. Then they peaked in 1997 with TCATS and theyve been sucking the corporate cock ever since but theyre more popular than ever.

    Muse aswell are another example.
    Showbiz/OOS, great albums.
    Absolution, 50% amazing, 50% boring ****.
    Then along came the latest pile of tripe, with the absoluely excerable 'supermassive black hole' single, and suddenly theyre selling out gigs like marlay park and everyones **** themselves dry over them. I just dont get it.

    I guess mediocrity sells


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭musicmonky


    something they should leave behind is music.
    U2 .
    they are the monty python bird.
    go take up knitting bonobo.

    when people are content they cant write edgey music.
    how many houses do they have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    ZakAttak wrote: »
    Aphex Twin.

    Now to be honest, I do still like some of his stuff- but I've really gone off him over the past year. Too much fiddly drum machine bollocks. Endless tracks of repetivtive random sh1t. I got 26 mixes for cash, and I can state quite categorically that, on the whole, that album is awful. Of the 26 songs about 3 are half decent, if even. It seems as though alot of people think this but are afraid to say it in case they'd be accused of not 'understanding' the music- whatever the fvck that means.

    and he's been doing the same music since he started- no variation or change, his latest stuff sounds just like what he was releasing 10 years ago.

    I love about 14 songs on 26 mixes. A lot of it isn't special though, what do you want for an album of remixes though?

    As for variation, I would say that he has probably one of the most varied catalogues of music I've come across. Hell, name 5 non-obscure acts that show more variety.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭bottlerocket


    Thought the first Zutons album was fantastic. Then they turned into another generic British indie band with the second one. Thank you Stephen Street. Loved the first two Badly Drawn Boy albums, still not sure what happened to him. The new James album better be worth their reformation cos the last one before the split was godawful, thankfully Tim has since disowned it. Biggest disappointment of all was the embarrassing version of Suede that limped on for far too long after Bernard Butler left, with the exception of half of Coming Up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    sink wrote: »
    Guns N' Roses, used to love em but after hearing the Chinese Democracy demos I no longer look forward to it's release. Axl has raped all the passion and uniqueness out of the band now they just sound like generic crap metal.
    :S Most of it is certainly crap, but generic metal?? I can't think of one leak that sounds remotely like generic metal. It's a monstrous mess of different styles that either don't work well together or have been thrown together horribly.

    I couldn't say I once loved GNR and despise them now, since it's not the same band, just have the same name and singer. And despite the disappointing songs, I find the new GNR interesting.

    Anyway, I concur with Muse. Can't think of any oher bands like this right now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Biggest disappointment of all was the embarrassing version of Suede that limped on for far too long after Bernard Butler left, with the exception of half of Coming Up.
    Leave Suede alone ya big bully! Come on lets face it bottlerocket the real biggest disappointment of your musical journey has surely been The Manics. Surely it makes you weep as you see your heroes churn out album after album of musical muck. At least Suede had the decency to call it a day.

    Oh and the Doves failed to deliver also. So there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭bottlerocket


    Pighead wrote: »
    Leave Suede alone ya big bully! Come on lets face it bottlerocket the real biggest disappointment of your musical journey has surely been The Manics. Surely it makes you weep as you see your heroes churn out album after album of musical muck. At least Suede had the decency to call it a day.

    Oh and the Doves failed to deliver also. So there!

    Christ, another heroic defence of Suede's pisspoor late period from pighead. I thought those days had finally passed. As for the Manics while Know Your Enemy was undoubtedly crap, Lifeblood does have it's moments and Send Away... was a return to form, albeit belatedly. Doves have yet to let me down, I'm childishly excited at the thought of a new album this year.

    Without doubt the biggest disappointment of my musical journey was watching your mercifully brief career as a band manager. As a Paul McGuinness, you failed to deliver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭oldscoil


    Jamiroquai would be another one for me.

    Never a huuuuuge fan but back in the day "Emegency on Planet Earth" was a great album, musically and content wise.
    However the later stuff was just terrible.

    Although I did meet him in London cicra 1998, and he was a really nice bloke (to meet anyway).

    Has anyone ever met a musical hero and thought they were a dickhead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Pighead wrote: »
    Oh and the Doves failed to deliver also. So there!

    Bollox tbh. Every album they've released so far is excellent.
    Doves have yet to let me down, I'm childishly excited at the thought of a new album this year.

    +1 to that. Can't wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭padi89


    Following on from the Oasis thread i guess il put them here.I wouldn't say i hate them now its far too strong a word.I was a big fan of Definitely Maybe/Morning Glory at the time but everything they have released since then never got more than a few plays from me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Death or Glory


    Mansun turned **** after SIX

    Suede turned **** after COMING UP

    Manics were **** for Know Your Enemy & Lifeblood, but everything else is class

    Muse have always been amazing.


    Personally, I thought Ash turned **** after Free All Angels.

    Oh, and Placebo after Black Market Music


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Oh, and Placebo after Black Market Music

    Agree with everything you said until this. Personally I love 'Sleeping With Ghosts', especially as it came with an amazing covers album. 'This Picture' is a fantastic song in particular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    BAZM8 wrote: »
    +1.

    Was an obsessive fan in the 80's early 90's and I still think Document and Lifes Rich Pagent are superb. Their last decent album was Green though which i saw them tour in 1990 in Wembly Arena. Since then have gone sh1te in a major which i've traced to 2 causes:

    1. Bill Berry becoming a farmer
    2. Micheal Stipe's singing becoming coherent.

    Wouldn't say i despise them but i do avoid them.

    That's outrageous!
    You should check out Automatic for the People.You might like that one.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Bollox tbh. Every album they've released so far is excellent.

    +1 most definetely. Doves can do no wrong IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭ZakAttak


    Kold wrote: »
    I love about 14 songs on 26 mixes. A lot of it isn't special though, what do you want for an album of remixes though?

    ==>It was poor, very poor- even for a set of remixes.

    As for variation, I would say that he has probably one of the most varied catalogues of music I've come across. Hell, name 5 non-obscure acts that show more variety.

    ==>You only think that because he sounds like no one else- I'll definitely give him that, he doesn't sound like anyone else. But he hasn't gone beyond music thats just filled up with beats, to the point it gets a bit tiring. He's flogging a dead horse more and more so these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    ZakAttak wrote: »
    ==>You only think that because he sounds like no one else- I'll definitely give him that, he doesn't sound like anyone else. But he hasn't gone beyond music thats just filled up with beats, to the point it gets a bit tiring. He's flogging a dead horse more and more so these days.

    Um. Have you listened to Druqz? Enough variation on that alone.

    Druqz is completely different to Richard D James album is different to I Care Because You do is different to Come to Daddy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Christ, another heroic defence of Suede's pisspoor late period from pighead. I thought those days had finally passed. As for the Manics while Know Your Enemy was undoubtedly crap, Lifeblood does have it's moments and Send Away... was a return to form, albeit belatedly. Doves have yet to let me down, I'm childishly excited at the thought of a new album this year.

    Without doubt the biggest disappointment of my musical journey was watching your mercifully brief career as a band manager. As a Paul McGuinness, you failed to deliver.
    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Bollox tbh. Every album they've released so far is excellent.



    +1 to that. Can't wait.
    Come on boys, take off your dove tinted glasses. Some Cities wasn't a patch on the previous two albums. They've ran out of tunes, hit the wall, ran out of puff. Game over. Pighead expects the next album to be a stinker and then you will both realise that all the signs were there, staring you both in the face. Game over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭eclectichoney


    Radiohead for me - loved them up until and incl Amnesiac. HTTT had some great stand-outs but also some filler and it was sad to hear In Rainbows - imho a band really going through the motions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Dublin's Finest


    Zutons, Feeder, Stereophonics, Travis, David Gray ... all the generic sh*t.

    Snow Patrol are main offenders though.

    That said I used to hate the Smiths, Arcade Fire, Dylan and the Doors!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Parsley


    PrivateEye wrote: »
    Neil Young- time to retire.

    :eek::confused::eek::confused: What're you on?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭DerekD Goldfish


    Parsley wrote: »
    :eek::confused::eek::confused: What're you on?!

    Well in fairness to him living with war was deadful altough chrome dreams is back on track he isnt as consistent as he used to be.
    Still a legend though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    Parsley wrote: »
    :eek::confused::eek::confused: What're you on?!

    Well I'll tell you what I was on...

    the bus
    with a fella from two or three houses down who knows his music and has seen Neil Young a fair few times before. Apparently he's just not the same. That's not saying he hasn't released some fantastic albums in his time, which he did- but maybe his time has passed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Muse. First two albums - good. Second two - not so good.

    Queens of the Stone Age: The first three albums were great. They went downhill after Nick was fired and Mark left. The last two albums were fairly dire.

    Foo Fighters: Never a truly spectacular band in the first place but the first two albums were pretty entertaining and third was great but the last three were awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,799 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Creature wrote: »

    Queens of the Stone Age: The first three albums were great. They went downhill after Nick was fired and Mark left. The last two albums were fairly dire.

    I'm gonna contest this one strongly:D Both Lullabies to Paralyse & Era Vulgaris have some great songs, the albums just aren't as generally heavy as the others, so people automaticaly assume its cos of Nicks absence. Mark still does stuff with them, but not as much as he has solo/other commitments. Songs like I Never Came, Someones in the Wolf, Misfit Love....brilliant!

    Only band I can think I don't like as much as before is Metallica. Don't hate them, but dont love them now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I love lullabies, probably my favourite. Haven't heard Era Vulgaris. Is it a step down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Mushy wrote: »
    I'm gonna contest this one strongly:D Both Lullabies to Paralyse & Era Vulgaris have some great songs, the albums just aren't as generally heavy as the others, so people automaticaly assume its cos of Nicks absence. Mark still does stuff with them, but not as much as he has solo/other commitments. Songs like I Never Came, Someones in the Wolf, Misfit Love....brilliant!

    His absence has a lot to do with it. Listening to those two albums, it sounds like a band that's missing a crucial piece and just chugs along anyway but ending up falling far below standard. They have a couple of stand out songs but are mostly very forgettable filler for me.
    Kold wrote: »
    I love lullabies, probably my favourite. Haven't heard Era Vulgaris. Is it a step down?
    It's several ladders down from the earlier stuff. But compared to Lullabies they're both as bad as each other. Meh.


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