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Has you PS3 suffered from a laser issue?
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09-07-2008 10:49am#1
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Wow, this is as bad as RROD! :eek:
I thought the PS3 was a reliable console compared to the 360
This is from only a small number of people, not exactly a very good sample for any type of statistical analysis!
Anyway, people who do not have any issues, like me, may not feel compelled to vote. People who have had issues, may be drawn to the thread.
Still, I hope it doesn't become as bad a problem as the RROD has been for some.0 -
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No issues for me on my 60 GB model.
Exactly! I nearly didn't bother posting because I have never had an issue but then I thought...well if everyone who hasn't had any problems does that the thread will make it look like the PS3 has a huge failure rate.Anyway, people who do not have any issues, like me, may not feel compelled to vote. People who have had issues, may be drawn to the thread.
What? PS3 owners are more likely than X-Box owners to know that consoles are delicate and therefore this will cause less faults to show up? It seems as though you are looking for an excuse to say that the PS3 is as bad as the XBox 360 and if the results say otherwise, it's only because we look after our machines.Another thing, I'd argue people around here are more knowledgabe about how delicate the system is etc so the faults would be genuine hardware faults and not simply as a result of the PS3 getting a kick or something.
Well as I said, I wasn't going to bother but I knew if I didn't the poll would be even worse :rolleyes: Methinks people are looking for a problem that doesn't exist...you're not a journalist are you? :pac: :pac:Currently 26 people have voted and 6 had problems. Still not great stats to be fair.0 -
No issues for me on my 60 GB model.
Exactly! I nearly didn't bother posting because I have never had an issue but then I thought...well if everyone who hasn't had any problems does that the thread will make it look like the PS3 has a huge failure rate.
What? PS3 owners are more likely than X-Box owners to know that consoles are delicate and therefore this will cause less faults to show up? It seems as though you are looking for an excuse to say that the PS3 is as bad as the XBox 360 and if the results say otherwise, it's only because we look after our machines.
Well as I said, I wasn't going to bother but I knew if I didn't the poll would be even worse :rolleyes: Methinks people are looking for a problem that doesn't exist...you're not a journalist are you? :pac: :pac:
You don't work for Sony, do you? No I meant people on boards.ie (not this board) would be more likely to treat a console better, not like the 6 yr old who bought it and banged it without realising etc.
I would google it before you say it doesn't exist. I did google it before doing the thread. Jesus man, I am only checking anyway?
Sure, could do who has had their ps3 more than a year and maybe broken figures will be even higher.
I have had a ps2 for 6.5 years without any problems whatsoever. So I am not badmouthing Sony, I just think people shouldn't be screwed if a 600 euro machine broke on the 13th month.0 -
You don't work for Sony, do you?
Actualy I despise Sony and also myself for buying a Sony product... 
Ah, I getcha.No I meant people on boards.ie (not this board) would be more likely to treat a console better, not like the 6 yr old who bought it and banged it without realising etc.
Nah, it obviously exists but your posts seem a bit like a journo...almost salivating at the thought of making a mountain out of a molehillI would google it before you say it doesn't exist. I did google it before doing the thread. Jesus man, I am only checking anyway?
Sure, could do who has had their ps3 more than a year and maybe broken figures will be even higher.
No, you're right, we shouldn't...We should also have a better online system...but at least ours is freeI have had a ps2 for 6.5 years without any problems whatsoever. So I am not badmouthing Sony, I just think people shouldn't be screwed if a 600 euro machine broke on the 13th month.
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This is from only a small number of people, not exactly a very good sample for any type of statistical analysis!
Anyway, people who do not have any issues, like me, may not feel compelled to vote. People who have had issues, may be drawn to the thread.
Still, I hope it doesn't become as bad a problem as the RROD has been for some.
Could say the same for the 360 thread but it actually matches the failure rate statistics pretty well from what I could see.
I'm not saying there is a design flaw but that would seem like a pretty high failure which you couldn't fault these machines for given the complexity of components and the pricing point.
Still I feel let down that I had a 360 break on me and I'd feel the same if a PS3 did the same.
I had a Gamecube last generation and it was left on for weeks sometimes and never actually crashed (where it was the consoles fault, damn bad EA games for making me edit that
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For the record I now have one of the "quieter" elite, falcon 360's with the Benq drive and fooking hell is it load still. I wouldn't call it quieter myself, I'd call it a different kind of noise.0 -
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9 out of 51. It is holding steady at the 15-20% mark. so far.
9 yes, 44 no = 53
9/53 = 16.98% (17%)
Yesterday when I last checked, it was at:
7 yes, 24 no = 31
7/31 = 22.58% (23%)
So that's a big decline imo
However, if you are a doom and gloom merchant you could say that the Mean of the 2 values above = 20%...the high end of your prediction
You see it really all depends on how you view the statistics and that's without doing any real analysis of the values :pac: As someone who has to read a lot of clinical trial reports I've seen the really ugly side of statistics, making results look better than they really are.
Further increases in sample size will tell but right now I think that 15-20% is not good enough. Sony, pull your socks up!!0 -
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However, if you are a doom and gloom merchant you could say that the Mean of the 2 values above = 20%...the high end of your prediction
Wow, sarcasm! :rolleyes:Yeah brilliant mate, your statistical analysis is really awesome,
Ah, a Masters, that's so cute! Taught or research? I hope it's research because most taught Masters are a total pile of poo (that's another debate). Well, then you'll know and understand exactly what I was talking about in terms of statistics. As I said a Biostatistics department can wonderfully massage figures, I've seen it in action...;)Im actually doing a masters in Economics (Econometrics etc)
Er, and the mean is still at 20%, that's what I said in the bolded bit above, I'm agreeing with you!! Jeez, defensive much?It was 20 at one stage yesterday, alrighty?
Relax, I'm only playing Devil's advocate, it's always good to have a different point of view. As I said, my 60GB model has so far not had any problems (touch wood!) and I hope it stays that way.Doom merchant? I haven't even voted! It does seem to be 60Gb models, I wonder if it is cos of their age or their model?0 -
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Well I don't know which Masters it is, how am I supposed to know how good it is? Besides, I'm only pulling your leg because of your high attitude towards doing a Masters, I've sent you a PM where I set the record straight on this plus my own qualifications...as you can see I can scoff at a Masters if I want to but in reality I never would...My boss and owner of my company doesn't even have a degree...he's a millionaire, I'm not :pac: No scoffing for me!Regardless of your opinion on what is actually one of the more worthwhile Masters, it does give me a very good grasp of all things statistical.
I know that but as I said in the PM, I'm presenting alternative views, that's all. You don't have to accept them but they are an equally valid way of looking at the poll results as yours. Both your read on the results and mine are equally facile imo. Nevertheless, both are in some ways valid.I just thought your post was a bit self-indulgent and certainly overcomplicated (taking the mean of two percentages?-No just take the latest one). I am not fabricating or massaging anything to suit my needs.0 -
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Are you even reading this thread properly noodler?You are the one who decided the poll here was complicated enough that you needed to bring up your college position.
YOU were the one who first brought up college positions:
See here:
See?Yeah brilliant mate, your statistical analysis is really awesome, Im actually doing a masters in Economics (Econometrics etc)
What part of this text below did you not read or understand??noodler wrote:You shouldn't say you can "scoff" at someone else's work/education, it really is pretty uncouth....as you can see I can scoff at a Masters if I want to but in reality I never would...No scoffing for me!
As I said, I pulled the piss out of your course simply because you got up on your high horse and brought it up. If you bring it to the table be prepared to have it, taken apart, examined, held up to the light, put back together and thrown in the bin/praised. That's life.
You really, really aren't fully reading what I'm saying at all are you. You seem to be hitting the reply button as soon as you read something that you don't like :rolleyes:
Anyway, enough of this for me:
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God, enough of the patronising fanboyism.
"As someone who has to read a lot of clinical trial reports I've seen the really ugly side of statistics, making results look better than they really are"
That came from you.
That is all.
Er...yeah...that said nothing about my qualifications or university
Also, fanboy? There's not been a single fanboy on this thread.
On-topic, it's now at 12/60 - bang on 20%, guess you'd better not buy a PS3 at all. Stick to your PS2.
EDIT: @ Kintaro Hattori: :pac: 0 -
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