Tyrellstown

RuggieBear

Why are properties inexpensive (relatively) in tyrellstown? Seems to have decent services (shops etc) and large properties...but the prices appear quite low. what's the catch?

the dee

You're right next to Ladyswell? I don't know what the area's like now, but it was pretty rough when I was growing up in Blakestown! Also the public transport isn't up to much.

I'd say the whole area is going to be pretty desirable in the next few years though (location-wise) so maybe it'd be a sweet investment in times ahead?

Nevyn

Cos it is so far out from the village and the shopping centre and so far from the city centre.

January

It's flooded with rental investment properties, so it's not a very neighbourly place to live.

I don't think it's THAT near to Ladyswell, I mean the scumbags wouldn't go out of their way to go up and cause trouble in Tyrellstown, they have Castlecurragh for that!

Jip

It simply down to supply and demand, it's still a relatively new area that many have bought in to get onto the ladder and then are ready to move on. Houses were originally competively priced and this reflects in the second hand prices.

And it does indeed have a good neighbourly spirit, there's plenty of communiy events organised by different groups in the area and I only read a report recently that it has a below average vandalism and crime level.
It's only 5-10 minutes from the Blanchardstown Centre and the same from the village and only about 7-8 miles from the city centre, closer than alot of Tallaght and Lucan.

RuggieBear

Just seems that there are loads for sale in there and curious to see if there was an underlying reason for it.

it's a little out of the way but i might view a few houses and see what the build quality is like.

Nevyn

5 to 10 minues drive where there is no traffic and when there is it can take up to 30/40mins to drive.

RuggieBear

yeah traffic in the area is a joke. i work round the corner

Jip

Traffic is only a joke at rush hour in the evenings during the week, but that's for getting out of Tyrrelstown to say the centre or village due to the large volume of traffic coming from the various business parks. The whole of Dublin 15 suffers the same problem in the evenings so it's not exceptional around Tyrrelstown.
The new link road to the N3 via Damonstown (spl) has relieved it a fair bit so you can skip all the traffic if you wanted.

Bear in mind, no pun intended, that there's basically 2 sides to Tyrrelstown, each built by different developers, some think the quality of one side is better than the other, and vice versa. There's also 2 different management agents acting for the management companies up there, Smiths are doing a fairly bad job and the other, can't remember who they are at the moment, seem to be doing a better job of things.

Zaph

RuggieBear wrote: »

Just seems that there are loads for sale in there and curious to see if there was an underlying reason for it.

Generally what happens in new developments like Tyrrellstown is that a lot of first time buyers and young families snap up the earliest phases. After a while their families have outgrown the house or they're making a bit more money and are in a position to trade up, but often find that a good proportion of the people who bought the same time as them are in exactly the same position. this leads to a disproportionate amount of houses on the market at the same time. It happened to a friend of mine who'd bought in the first phase in Ongar and ended up dropping his price three times before he sold because there was so much choice on offer. I'd say there's a good chance that that's what's going on in Tyrrellstown.

Automan

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"ZAP removed Link and added comment above"

I have nothing to do with the website so I dont think so.

Jip

I'm guessing what was cut was a link to the Tyrrelstown website ? A bit unfair really considering there's mentions of neighbours.ie all over the place in the various Dublin forums.

If not, disregard.

Zaph

Automan has contacted me about the removal of the link, and I accept that he has no connection with the Tyrrelstown site and wasn't spamming the forum. Apologies to Automan, and to anyone who wanted to use the link, here it is again for you http://www.tyrrelstown.net/forum/

Zaph

Lothaar

I live in Tyrrelstown, bought in 2004. It’s a great place. There is indeed good community spirit. At first there wasn’t, but IMO that’s because it was built on a greenfield site in 2001 and everybody who lived there had no connection to each other. Remember, it’s only 7 years old – communities aren’t created overnight.
The houses are good quality and fairly big for the price you pay.
Public transport isn’t great, but that’s mainly because of the lack of a nearby train station. The 40d takes between 45 and 60 minutes to get to/from town in rush-hour traffic, which isn’t THAT bad really. Still, the commute is the worst point for me… however, if you work in the area, you’re sorted.
Getting to Blanch Village or Shopping Centre is easy. Traffic can be bad during rush hour, as all of the industrial estates empty out onto the roads, heading back towards town or Blanch. Even at that, with the new road to Damastown opened, the traffic isn’t too bad.
Besides, the amenities in Tyrrelstown town centre are pretty good. There are two very nice restaurants – the Chinese, Aurora, is excellent quality and value – a Lidl and superquinn, pub/restaurant, café, hairdressers, two doctors… and lots more stuff. We get by without having to go to Blanch. Oh, and just down the road is Brannagans Meats, the best butcher in the world! Just from shopping in Brannagans and Lidl, both of which are walking distance, we cut our weekly shopping bill by €30. We have fillet steak at least once a week too!
I would agree with the suggestion that the reason for the amount of houses for sale is because young families bought a few years back to get on the ladder. That’s what I did, but I’ve no plans to move just yet. It’s as good as I’m realistically going to get. The alternatives are to move closer to town, but live in a smaller house that may need a lot of fixing-up, or move into a bigger gaff further away. Neither option is appealing, so we’re happy to live in a nice house that’s a little out of the way for the moment.

molloyjh

RuggieBear wrote: »

Just seems that there are loads for sale in there and curious to see if there was an underlying reason for it.

it's a little out of the way but i might view a few houses and see what the build quality is like.

Well given that I'm one of the ones selling I suppose I should weigh in on this. The main reason there are a lot of second-hand houses for sale in the area is because they are still selling new ones. So that means that the same demand is there for (relatively speaking) more houses. Its also driving the prices of the second-hand houses down so that they can compete with the new ones.

The area itself is fine, I haven't had any more or less issues there than I did with my folks place in Stillorgan. The Ttown village is pretty handy and for whatever anyone else says the public transport isn't all that bad. In the mornings there are buses every 15-20 mins. The 40D gets in as far as O'Connell St in 30 mins during the summer and 45-50 in winter and the 38C (less frequent, goes via Blanch and Navan Rd) takes about 40 mins in summer and up to 1.5 hrs in winter (traffic in Blanch is generally mental).

The main reason we're moving is that both of us have moved job locations recently. My OH is all the way out in Sandyford and I'm working in UCD so we're commuting over the far side of the city every day. The house is a great house, and we've often said if we could take it with us we would. We going to have to trade down to move closer to work.

RuggieBear

Thanks for all the responses.

molloyjh

Jip wrote: »

Bear in mind, no pun intended, that there's basically 2 sides to Tyrrelstown, each built by different developers, some think the quality of one side is better than the other, and vice versa. There's also 2 different management agents acting for the management companies up there, Smiths are doing a fairly bad job and the other, can't remember who they are at the moment, seem to be doing a better job of things.

I would tend to agree with this. The "far" side of Ttown, where the shops are, is the nicer (in my biased opinion!) and the management company there (Fisher) have been doing a good job. The place is pretty well kept and there are no real issues at all in that regard. The other side of the estate (the one at the first entrance if you're coming from Blanch) has a lot of issues with the management company. A lot of people have refused to pay there too which hasn't really helped matters. Its still not a "bad" area, just not as nice.

Supercell

Are there cycle lanes in the area? Would it be feasible to commute into town on a bicycle instead?.

Seven or eight miles on a bike isnt that much (I'd consider it a perfect keep fit commute in fact - if the roads are safe for cyclists).

amdublin

Yes I imagine it is feasible to cycle in to town. (If you were fit!)

I lived in Tyrrelstown for two years before getting married and moving. I loved it. Nice mix of housing (I had nice two bed apartment). Village is brilliant with Lidl and Superquinn. There is a ptsb there now. Pub was good as well. I had no problems getting the bus into town for work either.

I still use the village there now and I think it looks like a really nice area. Really grown in well - there must have been a big budget for planting at initial stages. Think it is much better than (for example) Ongar and much better value for your money!

BostonB

Supercell wrote: »

Are there cycle lanes in the area? Would it be feasible to commute into town on a bicycle instead?.

Seven or eight miles on a bike isnt that much (I'd consider it a perfect keep fit commute in fact - if the roads are safe for cyclists).

I would say it would take you well over the hour tbh.

funnystory

Guys, I am looking to buy house in Tyrrelstown ,any good/bad info will be appreciated,Thanks in advance.

Zaph

Hi OP. As the thread you posted in was several years old I've moved your post to a new one to avoid people commenting on potentially out of date posts in that thread.

beauf

It all depends on where you're commuting to.

tyview

funnystory wrote: »

Guys, I am looking to buy house in Tyrrelstown ,any good/bad info will be appreciated,Thanks in advance.

Tyrrelstown is big so I guess it really depends on which part. The best thing to do when you have your eye on a house would be to drive around that area at different times during the day/night if you can. Some little roads which look quiet can be used as rat runs linking the boulevard either side. The areas near the school obviously can get very busy too. Make sure you know everything about the management company and fee's involved.

amdublin

I like tyrellstown. I think the brick houses are wearing much better than ongar for example

BabysCoffee

Tyrellstown has a nice feel to it and I don't think the village looks as shabby as Ongar.

whippet

Tyrrelstown gets a bit of a bad rap .. but it isn't all that bad .. I did live there previously.

The facilities are much better than what was there 6-7 years ago, I believe the new park has been opened and the secondary school is due to be built shortly.

The nicer parts of the area are around Mount Garrett and Cruise Park; quieter than the other parts and are closer to the open spaces.

Hepsie

6 years later and I'm curious how this area is to live for a young, professional family. One needs to commute to city centre daily.

beauf

If I was going city centre daily, I want to be within walking distance of the train.

January

The 40D is a pretty regular service to the city centre and doesn't take very long.

Hepsie

I'll do some more searches. The houses are relatively affordable and there is potentially space for our two children at the Educate Together school. Just want to be sure the commute for my husband won't be too crazy, while trying to find a good school for the children which they can get in. Was told by a school yesterday that there were 165 children on the wait list!

We are living in the UK now so while we've come to Dublin for work and some weekend visits we are still unsure where is best for us.

In looking at google maps its pretty out there and not much within walking distance. Perhaps should focus on areas closer to the city

January wrote: »

The 40D is a pretty regular service to the city centre and doesn't take very long.

AlanG

The area has come on a lot over the past few years – there are now several schools and a fine community centre. The Village is still pretty good and the hotel is still going. Sports clubs are pretty well established. There are still lots of jobs in the area and the new link road opening will encourage more services to the area.
Downside is still the imbalance of rental an owner occupied accommodation in some parts of Tyrrelstown, transport for those working in town is not great and retail rents in the village still seems to be quite high so the turnover of shops is a bit high.
Of the areas built at that time I think that Tyrrelstown has done quite well and there is a lot of things within the area so I am not sure what else you would want within walking distance.
There are lots of reasonably priced houses as you can still buy new houses and many investors are pulling out of the market so supply of second hand houses is good. The houses are also a good size and most are well proportioned.

Gaspode

Threads merged. No need to re-open a 6yr old thread when there's a fresh one on the same subject already in progress.

beauf

January wrote: »

The 40D is a pretty regular service to the city centre and doesn't take very long.

Time table says 45 mins off peak. Which I think its optimistic, but I don't use it, so maybe it actually that fast. I'd still prefer to be getting a train everyday.

ThisRegard

It's actually pretty spot on, probably faster than 45 minutes off peak if anything. The route changed some time back so it no longer tours west Fingas, it goes by Cappagh, towards Finglas Village and directly onto the N2 from there, makes a big difference.

on_my_oe

I was talking to someone at a party and the talk moved to property (oh dear, already)... They mentioned that Tyrrelstown has Pyrite and said to be careful about Bellgree, Mount Eustace and The Boulevard?

amdublin

on_my_oe wrote: »

I was talking to someone at a party and the talk moved to property (oh dear, already)... They mentioned that Tyrrelstown has Pyrite and said to be careful about Bellgree, Mount Eustace and The Boulevard?

Umm I'm not sure about this.

Definitely ongar does - my friend had to move out while it was fixed. I have never heard anything about Tyrellstown.

DaisyD2

Been in Tyrrelstown 10years, never have I heard of pyrite - a couple of dodgy houses (my windows had to be redone during build because they went in after a bank holiday the builder had obviously spent drinking!) & some people caused cracks themselves moving in during cold spells & cranking new heating up to max. Usual stuff & far below normal levels given number of actual Units imo

ThisRegard

on_my_oe wrote: »

I was talking to someone at a party and the talk moved to property (oh dear, already)... They mentioned that Tyrrelstown has Pyrite and said to be careful about Bellgree, Mount Eustace and The Boulevard?

That pretty much rules in most of Tyrrelstown to be honest. And nope, I don't think there is pyrite in the area. If there is, it's the slowest acting pyrite ever.

molloyjh

ThisRegard wrote: »

It's actually pretty spot on, probably faster than 45 minutes off peak if anything. The route changed some time back so it no longer tours west Fingas, it goes by Cappagh, towards Finglas Village and directly onto the N2 from there, makes a big difference.

Yeah I've made it from Tyrrelstown to the RDS in an hour on buses on a Saturday before. Off peak it's generally about 30-35 mins into town I'd say. Around 50 in rush hour.

AlanG

on_my_oe wrote: »

I was talking to someone at a party and the talk moved to property (oh dear, already)... They mentioned that Tyrrelstown has Pyrite and said to be careful about Bellgree, Mount Eustace and The Boulevard?

There are no recorded Pyrite problem in Tyrrelstown. You were misinformed. There are plenty of companies that will take your money if you what a survey done.

RORY O CONNOR

AlanG wrote: »

There are no recorded Pyrite problem in Tyrrelstown. You were misinformed. There are plenty of companies that will take your money if you what a survey done.

|I too have not heard of Pyrite in Tyrellstown . There is Pyrite in Chapelwood in Hollystown which is a mile up the road from Tyrellstown.

whippet

RORY O CONNOR wrote: »

|I too have not heard of Pyrite in Tyrellstown . There is Pyrite in Chapelwood in Hollystown which is a mile up the road from Tyrellstown.

pyrite isn't a contagious disease. There is no evidence of any pyrite in Tyrrelstown.

I lived in Tyrrelstown for about 7 years and to be fair it was a decent enough place to live. Accessible to most places and had plenty on it's doorstep. Decent supermarkets, pub, restaurants. Schools and community centre

There are a number of sports clubs which are now very well established and the new public park is taking shape and will have plenty of playing pitches.

The estate itself is quite nice to look at, fairly well maintained by the management companies and most of the locals take a certain pride in their area.

It suited myself for the time I was there but with a desire to move to a more rural location I ended up leaving.

chucknorris

whippet wrote: »

pyrite isn't a contagious disease. There is no evidence of any pyrite in Tyrrelstown.

I lived in Tyrrelstown for about 7 years and to be fair it was a decent enough place to live. Accessible to most places and had plenty on it's doorstep. Decent supermarkets, pub, restaurants. Schools and community centre

There are a number of sports clubs which are now very well established and the new public park is taking shape and will have plenty of playing pitches.

The estate itself is quite nice to look at, fairly well maintained by the management companies and most of the locals take a certain pride in their area.

It suited myself for the time I was there but with a desire to move to a more rural location I ended up leaving.

One of my brothers just bought a really good house there at a reasonable price. There were doubts about how the area would develop or indeed how it wouldn't develop, but I was one of those doubters and I was wrong.

I've now three siblings living there and they couldn't be happier.

caew

I lived in TT for 11 years and sold my house there last summer.

I can give you some pros and cons, starting with the cons:

TT is very densely built and there is planning approved for further high density housing between TT and Hollystown so it may be worth checking that on the Fingal County Council website.

My management company were also in the process of hiking up the fees in their area. This was because so few were paying they saw the solution to the problem as hiking up the fees for those who were paying. There was also some issue regarding no sinking fund or limited sinking fund in place and this needed to be topped up. The fees were a reasonable €150 per year, I don't know how it panned out in the end. but your solcitor can query if you buy.

Anti social behaviour - it occurs in every area though. I for the most part felt safe there. You do get gangs of teenagers hanging around but they never caused me any problem.

The pros:

The houses are a good build quality IMO, I lived in Begree and never had any issues with my house. My dad is a surveyor and checked it out before I bought, he preferred the build quality to Ongar which we also viewed. The ventilation was poor in the ensuite, it had a window but no fan so I got one installed.

Lovely neighbours. There have been comments about rented properties. a number of houses were rented in my street and I never had any issue with any of my neighbours. Most of them were families and long term renters.

Shops are convenient, pub and hotel nice.

The 40D is a very good service, very reliable.

The community centre has great clubs, exercise classes etc

Schools

medea2

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a house in Tyrrelstown but I've heard mixed views on the area and there is no up to date review on boards. Just wondering could I get an update please?

Zaph

Threads merged

sarahkirbs

Zaph wrote: »

So you're telling me that you went to the trouble of signing up to Boards so you could spout misinformed, untrue, xenophobic sh*te like that in response to a six year old post? Sounds like the people in Tyrrellstown have had a lucky escape that you won't be living anywhere near them.

And I should also point out that you're as welcome here as you would be there. Post on this thread again, or any more crap like that anywhere in this forum, and you'll find yourself banned from here pretty swiftly.

Typical, someone who has a different view gets called a racist very original buddy :rolleyes:

You sound mad? Did you purchase in TYT? Or were you bullied at school?

Go on internet warrior work your magic

Zaph

Why do people never take warnings seriously? Come back in a month if you're willing to post civilly.

EDIT: It appears our visitor was a persistent re-regging troll, so they're now gone for good.

BabysCoffee

Zaph wrote: »

Why do people never take warnings seriously? Come back in a month if you're willing to post civilly.

EDIT: It appears our visitor was a persistent re-regging troll, so they're now gone for good.

Good job Zaph!

BabysCoffee

medea2 wrote: »

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a house in Tyrrelstown but I've heard mixed views on the area and there is no up to date review on boards. Just wondering could I get an update please?

It would have been built around the same time as Ongar but personally I think the village and most of the houses are more attractive in Tyrrelstown. It also looks less shabby and seems to be well kept.

There seems to be a strong sense of community in the area with online forums and football groups etc.

There is a recently built community centre and school which has been a good addition.