Stargate Continuum Leaked **May Contain Spoilers**

Thor

so just saw that stargate continuum has been leaked on the internet.

havent watched it yet but the quality is perfect!!!!

some people may say it will spoil the film watching it now but i cant see why.

most fans will of course buy the dvd, that being said leaked version of this film a month before its release it perfect quality odd how someone got there hands on it. it may have an adversed effect on later films.

what does everyone else think of the movie as i plan to watch it shortly

Sherifu

Excellent. Ya ya, dvd later.

Ian Beale

I watched it this morning,very very good much better then AOT,big spoilers in my tags so don't look if you don't want to know.
Also it was broadcast in America so it didn't get "leaked"
Oh theres also swearing in it which is great and very funny too.

I thought the time travel would have made this movie terrible but they pulled it off really well,especially with killing nearly every single character off only person they didn't kill was Cameron,great to see RDH and Don S Davis(RIP) back in it too and they've made sure to leave an opening for a goa'uld return with another possible clone of Bal,only part that I think let it down was at the end it felt rushed,with teal'c as bals first prime and then in less then 5 mins sides with sg1,could've made that a little longer but overall it was fantastic,especially the scene were dozens of motherships enter earths orbit and open fire,and the submarine at the start was a nice touch breaking through the ice.
All the info I put is all over the place so much happened its hard to remember it all!

AnCapaillMor

Just glad it was'nt another search for an Ancient Weapon

Sherifu

About to watch it now *excited*

senordingdong

I don't want to spoil it but waiting untill August is ****ing ridiculous.

AlmightyCushion

Sweet. Getting this now, will probably watch it later.

Sherifu

Loved it.

I'll write some proper thoughts tomorrow.

Thor

just watched it there.

i was very pleased with this film. although it felt like some of the parts where definetly rushed they still pulled them off.

there where some very good parts that i liked in this film. the flying of the f16's and the gliders chasing them was pretty cool. the sub was deadly in the film aswell. it was great that every charactor was killed off except cameron.(maybe they will take some thaughts from futurama and make cameron his own grandfather lol). all and all i thaught it was a very good film and i hope they keep making new ones which would be kick ass.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

well
have to be up at 7 in the morning, but I think it was worth staying up to watch. and i haven't been able to say that about stargate in a long, long time.

great stuff

philliecullen

Heh, I wouldn't get the chance until September to see it, since I'm off for a two month trek later this month.

Regardless, when I get back, the first thing I am going to do is buy it. Well okay, second after getting an Irish brekkie in me.. heck I might even go and make it my first blu-ray to get.

Damn, I have the R1 DVD preordered and don't know if I should just give in and download and watch it now or wait.

AlmightyCushion

Deleted User wrote: »

Damn, I have the R1 DVD preordered and don't know if I should just give in and download and watch it now or wait.

Do it. I just finished watching it. It's brilliant. Now off to bed, I have to be up in 4 hours. I blame you thor. If you didn't post this thread I'd be in bed now.

Thor

one other think i forgot

how cool it was when carter said that thing about the moon base. that should be kick ass. that must mean there are going to do much more for stargate sg1.

Cunning Alias

Just finished watching it. Surprisingly good.

Sherifu

Lets put some thoughts down.

That was pretty awesome. SG1 really going back to its roots.

I've always been a fan of alternate universes / timelines so that was a big plus for me.

Having the gou'ld playing a central role is really what a great SG1 film needs, the last one struggled with the bad guys involved.

So many things happened in the movie, the start was suitably epic. The extraction ceremony and then straight into the scene on the Achilles. Staff weapon blasts all over the place, classic stargate. The timeline shifts, Jack dies and SG1 are stuck with new identities for a year. I thought this bit was well paced with Jackson ringing himself and Mitchell going back to his home. The fleet of ships entering orbit and T'ealc as first prime was a great part of the movie. Seeing Apophis losing the head was also cool. I was sad to see Don S. Davis on screen for the last time. He was a big part of making stargate great to watch. The scene with the jets being chased by gliders was also very good. I had a feeling they'd get some help from the Russians. Another good fight scene in the time machine room. And the ending was quite easy for Mitchell to defeat some jaffa & ba'al with thompsons I think.

This had everything I want from a stargate movie and tied in a lot of little details from the show, like the solar flares to go back in time. And it also had classic moments like Walter at the start saying he finally got a parking place, made me smile.

Excellent.

robby^5

*scrolls past everyones posts!*

I cant wait to see this, the final appearance for General Hammond has become a point of interest now.

Ian Beale

Something just crossed my mind though after watching it the 2nd time and it opens up a lot of questions putting it in spoiler tags so anyone that hasn't seen it yet don't look, if you have seen it read below.

With the gate activated on the ship and cameron still alive at the end how come the timeline reverted back to normal?With baals body and the symbiotes in the jaffa in the cargohold of the ship wouldn't the military have conducted tests on them?So they would have known about the jaffa race before the incident in the first episode where they go back to abydos.Stupid time travel complexes!!

What do you guys think?

Sherifu

Ian Beale wrote: »

With the gate activated on the ship and cameron still alive at the end how come the timeline reverted back to normal?With baals body and the symbiotes in the jaffa in the cargohold of the ship wouldn't the military have conducted tests on them?So they would have known about the jaffa race before the incident in the first episode where they go back to abydos.Stupid time travel complexes!!

My thinking on that was that Mitchell got rid of all the evidence, just throw them off the boat.

Ian Beale

Sherifu wrote: »

My thinking on that was that Mitchell got rid of all the evidence, just throw them off the boat.

What about the rest of the crew though and the big hole in the side of the ship

Thor

Ian Beale wrote: »

What about the rest of the crew though and the big hole in the side of the ship

also the fact that the big whole in box that was holding the stargate. cameron could have told his grandfather about it an told him to make sure there was no evidence of it being used. what im wondering is where the gate was when he dialed in in 1929 and how he managed to survive in africa for 10 years before the gate was brought to america.

sutty

Loved the movie, great story, great to see Don S on screen for the last time in Stargate.

We also know that in 1945 Ernest Littlefield used the gate. so they must have known it was for travail of sometype. What I really wanna know now is what happened to Mitchell that set everything right? Did he just disappear or did he live out a life? I also enjoyed the very opening, getting to see all the SGC personal

Sherifu

Ian Beale wrote: »

What about the rest of the crew though and the big hole in the side of the ship

There was time to put all of that right. In fact in the last shot of the photograph you can see the whole in the side of the ship.

Thor wrote: »

also the fact that the big whole in box that was holding the stargate. cameron could have told his grandfather about it an told him to make sure there was no evidence of it being used. what im wondering is where the gate was when he dialed in in 1929 and how he managed to survive in africa for 10 years before the gate was brought to america.

Indeed, good question. I didn't think about where he gated to actually.

Volvagia

I thought it was very enjoyable, classic sg-1 with goa'uld and guns. I'm delighted there were no ancient weapons or earth ships with asgard technology to save the day.

bada_bing

bravo!! what a great movie!! good old classic Stargate!! Great to see all the old familiar faces from the last 10 years!! Will definitely buy this on Blu-ray to add to my collection. my worries about this were unfounded after the crappy AOT!!

Roll on with the next movie!

is_that_so

Yes pretty enjoyable and IMO highlights all that was wrong with the dreadful Ori stuff. Straightforward story,

with all the holes one would expect from a time-travel, alternate timeline fix

,lots of action and all the usual suspects. So much better than AOT. This is the most consistently entertaining SG-1 outing(with a few notable exceptions like 200, Bad Guys or Bounty) since Season 8.

A few little comments

Is it my imagination or is RDA turning into that cantankerous old git from Brief Candle(Season 1)? If all he does is bang on about cake then what's the point at all?
I thought he was a parody of himself. IMO he is ageing very quickly and I found his part in it extremely disappointing. In fact I can't see any real reason for him being there other than shoehorning him into the Arctic rescue mission.

Vala was always a lousy character and ended up here as an even worse cardboard cutout than the rest of the baddies.

I was also struck by how little characterisation was given to Apophis, Cronos and the gang considering how much was invested in building the characters in the series. Even though this was all about Baal I'd have expected more.

While this wasn't quite one of those last 5 minutes wrap-ups that SG-1 has specialised in, I reckon a little more time could have been spent on plot development around Teal'c/SG-1 and the problem in hand rather than long shots of them wandering around Northern Canada.

And finally a fond farewell to Don S Davis. Good to see him do his thing one last time.

Mr E

Watched it last night.... Ba'al is one of the best villains in Stargate, and Cliff Simon really looked like he was really enjoying the role (probably his last spin as Ba'al)

What kind of wuss was Jack O'Neill for

dying from a shoulder stab wound??

Thoroughly enjoyable, and not an Ori in sight.

Loved the (kinda fake looking) gory deaths.

Classic Stargate.

BKtje

Absolutely loved it, great movie though as has been said it was a little rushed.

Only thing that irked me was

Ease the thompsons cut through the Jaffa armour, i seriously doubt they were loaded with armour piercing ammo

ixoy

Excellent stuff - really enjoyed it. If this is the last we ever have of SG-1 then it's a damn good way to go out. It actually felt much more like a movie than "Ark of Truth" - that movie suffered from feeling like two plots mashed together in the regular run. This one was much better paced and felt more epic as a result - sure the ending was a small bit rushed, but that in itself is something the show's always done.

Killing everyone in an alternate timeline is something I always perversely enjoy and this was done with the noblest sacrifices for everyone. I enjoyed how Ba'al made sure not to make any of the same mistakes as before and the earth without the influence of the gate.

The movie length running time gave us time to breath and show the characters going home, adjusting to their new lives, etc. Jackson ringing Jackson was a nice touch.

Liked also seeing loads of the other Goa'uld System Lords hanging around - Niirti, Yu, Chronos, Apophis (alas not enough there). If I'm picky I'd like to know why Hathor isn't wandering around the earth as her discovery was unrelated to the Gate program as such, or how Seth's cult is doing as it would surely have grown.

Cliff Simon did a great turn as Ba'al - it seems to be a role he's always had fun with. RDA was good fun to see, although it would have been nicer to see him have a more integral function in the plot. From the regular cast, Michael Shanks put in the best performance. And of course, it was nice to see Don S. Davis one last time on screen. No offence to the poor souls who died in the ice cap during filming and to whom this cut was dedicated, but I'd like to see Don S. Davis up there in the closing credits.

If they can maintain this calibre of quality, I'd be very happy to see more DVD movies. And yes, I know lots of folks have seen this already now, but please buy the DVD releases if you want more - I know I certainly will be.

Mahatma coat

That was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Arc Of Truth.

Overall I liked it, Ba'll was brilliant, Loved the way he played Teal'c with the whole free Jafaa thing,

really think they missed a trick with Mitchell being his own grandfather, course they already intimated that O'Neill was his Da so weird.

would have liked to have seen more of the one yer in between bit maybe the 2 Daniels actualy meeting.

loved the massive amount of Heroic yet pointless Deaths

overall this has restored my faith in the franchise, I will deffo purchase the DVD when its eventualy released over here

Mahatma coat

also, Jack wasnt stbbed in the shoulder, that was a dart to the heart

Pepe LeFrits

Better than the last film but it still wasn't very good. There are some good parts but overall there are just so many things wrong with it.

alastair_doom

Great movie, thuroughly enjoyable.....

but the problem i see is it was totally story driven. It was 50 minutes before the action really started, and there was never much action. From that point of view, I'm not sure of the re-watch value of this movie, and as such if it will do well as a scifi DVD in terms of sales, again, despite it a great story, and fantastic special effects.

As far as Baal Killing O'Neill, it did seem to be a stab in the shoulder, but then he angled it down very sharply, so i'm guessing heart damage. Pretty lame way for him to die.

astrofool

I liked the way they

killed Ba'al lots of times.

Shot the clone lots near the start.
Split the real Ba'al in half just when he was about to take over earth.
Shot the real Ba'al in the forehead just as he walked through the gate smugly.
Extracted the symbiote Ba'al from the clone and watched him die with glee.

Ron DMC

Watched it last night. Very enjoyable film. Leaps and bounds ahead of Ark of Truth. Nothing beats a good classic Goa'uld-centric storyline.

One thing I didn't get was

Wouldn't the alternate timeline (which only branched off in 1939) still have had the time-jumper buried in Giza near the pyramid, or was that destroyed in Moebius Part 2. I can't seem to remember whether it was or not.

Overheal

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

Watched it last night. Very enjoyable film. Leaps and bounds ahead of Ark of Truth. Nothing beats a good classic Goa'uld-centric storyline.

One thing I didn't get was

Wouldn't the alternate timeline (which only branched off in 1939) still have had the time-jumper buried in Giza near the pyramid, or was that destroyed in Moebius Part 2. I can't seem to remember whether it was or not.

but did the jumper have its own functioning Zero Power Supply? Didnt it require a ZPM? Either way they wouldn't have had time to execute that plan, or anyone in their team that had the ATA gene and/or the training to callibrate, repair and use the Time Machine. Besides it would have felt like recycled TV.

What I enjoyed was the Cellphone what a nice touch. Ba'al always did have a sense of Humour.

And Katesh actually did ok, and had her moments. I liked the knife scene. But my heart was stolen away by the air combat and possibly the fact that this is the first time in 11 years carter has been in a proper fighter jet. And god, they were beautiful.

I liked it, it felt like a classy extended episode but sure, I'll buy the DVD for the sake of donation.

robby^5

That was bloody brilliant! Best SG1 outing in years imo.

A few thoughts

Daniel says shít! ... twice! awesome.

The RDA cameo was rather disappointing, but still nice to him making appearances and hope next time (if there's a next time) he get's a more substantial role, I've always wanted to see O'Neill and Mitchell pair up on a mission (well Sheppard is also involved in this little fantasy, but that probably wont happen ) It'd be interesting for their characters to have some screen time together.

The CGI was really top notch, some of the scenes in the fighters, or when Washington gets rained on from above were just amazing.

It actually felt like a film this time around, and more like a proper SG1 adventure. Never bought into the whole Ori story arc, the painful search for ancient weaponry was tedious at best, going back to SG1's roots with the Goa'uld was the best direction they could have taken, and even though I was hesitant about another time travel story they really pulled it off and made it quite an interesting watch.

Overall, I really really enjoyed this and will definitely be buying the dvd, if they could keep up the quality to this standard I'd love to see more SG1 films, but if not I'm happy with how it ended, the Goa'uld once and for all are gone, end of an era.

So it's evident the writers enjoy time travel stories, now the question arises where do they go from here? If there's to be anymore films I wonder what approach they're going to take?

Overheal

robby^5 wrote: »

So it's evident the writers enjoy time travel stories, now the question arises where do they go from here?

We're whalers on the moon,
We carry a harpoon,
For they ain't no whales
So we tell tall tales
And sing our whaling tune.

DingChavez

Time travel/alternative universes always make for the best episodes. The same is true for Star Trek.

jor el

I was the only one who was disappointed by this then, I take it? Great story and all that, for what it was, but pressing the reset button at the end and making the entire thing pointless is something that annoys me. Like the final Stargate episode, it was just pointless.

Things that annoyed me.

Jack seemed like an ignorant shit in the alt timeline.
How did Mitchel get back to Earth in 1929? The Stargate was buried under the capstone in the desert at the time.
When Katesh arrived at the time travel planet, she sent down wave after wave of soldiers, why? She shouldn't have expected anyone to be there.
If Baal changed the timeline, then SG1 wouldn't have had a chance to get back through the gate. They would simply have ceased to be there. Especially Mitchell, since he was never even born.
In previous episodes, when there were two people from alternate timelines living in the one universe, they experienced headaches and all sorts of problems. In this, there were two Daniels, but no problems. Ignoring the story lines of past episodes, silly.
Pressing the reset button, so very very annoying.

I would have preferred something that wasn't completely undone at the end.

Baals time travel chamber will still be out there somewhere, in this reality, it was only destroyed in the alt timeline. I wonder will the Michell that traveled back leave information about where it is, or even that it exists, for future films?

I did like seeing Baal back at his usual bad ass, and often funny, self. The fight scenes and ships attacking were very good too.

DingChavez wrote:

Time travel/alternative universes always make for the best episodes.

Usually yes, but not in this case.

wheresdbeef

I don't know if I was watching the same film as you guys but I thought it was an awful. I'm a big SG1 fan and as hard as it is to say i thought AOT was better, which isn't saying too much for Continuum.
It didnt seem like a movie at all it felt more like a needlessly long but rushed Episode

Overheal

but what a needlessly long-rushed episode it was!

User45701

Just one thought...

Does Baal not still live?, as pointed out 4 where killed but there was 5.

1. Ball Shot before they leave the tokra home world (clone)
2. Split in 1/2 (real baal)
3. Shot in the head (real baal) - on a side note this was very dissapointing he didnt get in a last word like Apophis
4. Extracted

The 5th one is the one who exited in 1939 when the real baal went back in time, in order to establish a power base and not confuse the other gouald there could only be one baal, meaning baal must have made contact with himself in the past, i doubt very much he killed past himself because that would be too much or a parradox so i assume he just went "we ****ed up - lost go hide on this planet encase i **** up as well type of thing?"

i dont know im just guessing but there where not 2 baals in the altered timeline and baal would have no reason to kill his past self

Ron DMC

User45701 wrote: »

Just one thought...

Does Baal not still live?, as pointed out 4 where killed but there was 5.

1. Ball Shot before they leave the tokra home world (clone)
2. Split in 1/2 (real baal)
3. Shot in the head (real baal) - on a side note this was very dissapointing he didnt get in a last word like Apophis
4. Extracted

The 5th one is the one who exited in 1939 when the real baal went back in time, in order to establish a power base and not confuse the other gouald there could only be one baal, meaning baal must have made contact with himself in the past, i doubt very much he killed past himself because that would be too much or a parradox so i assume he just went "we ****ed up - lost go hide on this planet encase i **** up as well type of thing?"

i dont know im just guessing but there where not 2 baals in the altered timeline and baal would have no reason to kill his past self

My head hurts. I'll try and figure that all out later, but I think I'll need a pen and paper.

Overheal

I think I figured it out: leave aside the multiple baals for a minute.

Baal goes back in time so you get the Marty mcFly paradox. Meaning in 1939 there are 2 baals: 2008 baal (all others exist in the current 2008 timeleine) and the original 1939 baal.

I just assume baal killed his 1939 self. Why share power?

It depends on what theory of time you follow: the Back to the Future theory of erasing yourself from history has a lot of holes. without getting into the quantum physics of it: killing his 1939 self would not erase his 2008 self.

<_<

>_>

User, shut the fuck up.

jor el

The theory they seem to favour in Stargate is that of multiple universes, or multiverse. This means that if Baal from 2008 travels back to 1939, kills the Ball in that time, he would now be creating a new universe, with the decisions made here only effecting this that universe. The 2008 that SG1 were in still exists, just in a different universe. This is accounted for by the Many Worlds Theory, and apparently verified by John Titor.

It would all hurt your head though.

AlmightyCushion

jor el wrote: »

The theory they seem to favour in Stargate is that of multiple universes, or multiverse. This means that if Baal from 2008 travels back to 1939, kills the Ball in that time, he would now be creating a new universe, with the decisions made here only effecting this that universe. The 2008 that SG1 were in still exists, just in a different universe. This is accounted for by the Many Worlds Theory, and apparently verified by John Titor.

It would all hurt your head though.

Then why did people start disappearing. If the Baal's actions didn't affect the timeline in the first part of the film then surely nobody would have disappeared.

Ron DMC

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Then why did people start disappearing.

Because it's Science Fiction. They can't always get it right. Everything's gonna have plotholes. If you find that to be the most unbelievable thing about Stargate, I'd love to hear your take on hyperdrives, humans populating most of the known universe, alien symbiodes, pyramid langing sites, etc. Even the gate itself ffs.

Overheal

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Then why did people start disappearing. If the Baal's actions didn't affect the timeline in the first part of the film then surely nobody would have disappeared.

Thats it - I'm done. *cough* GREAT MOVIE EVERYONE. -_-

User45701

jor el wrote: »

The theory they seem to favour in Stargate is that of multiple universes, or multiverse. This means that if Baal from 2008 travels back to 1939, kills the Ball in that time, he would now be creating a new universe, with the decisions made here only effecting this that universe. The 2008 that SG1 were in still exists, just in a different universe. This is accounted for by the Many Worlds Theory, and apparently verified by John Titor.

It would all hurt your head though.

This is how i precieve time and space, that each alteration/incursion caused by whatever creates a new universe/dimension

Ronny Mitchell wrote: »

Because it's Science Fiction. They can't always get it right. Everything's gonna have plotholes. If you find that to be the most unbelievable thing about Stargate, I'd love to hear your take on hyperdrives, humans populating most of the known universe, alien symbiodes, pyramid langing sites, etc. Even the gate itself ffs.

Well...

What should have happened was when vala left things would be MASSIVLY different, im not sure if they would even be allive without her, they should have all vanished not one at a time, that was quote stupid.

Hyperdrives? they make sence dont they? i know folding space is more logical buts its not that hard to wrap your head around go faster than light = hyperdrive.

humans populating the univerce has been well explined....
the origion of the goulad symbiots was also explained.

Pyrimad landing sites is not something that they focus on it was in the orginal movie so they keep true to that instead of chainging established cannon.

I think its good as a whole but i would have liked to have seen more of a role for apophis and the other gouauld and for baal not to have been killed by ketesh.

The last few seasons they have really played down the role of the sarcophagi havent they? i know the tocra dont use them because it makes you "bad" but thats after prolonged use

jor el

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Then why did people start disappearing. If the Baal's actions didn't affect the timeline in the first part of the film then surely nobody would have disappeared.

An inconsistency, without which the film would have no basis. Rather than having people disappear, they should have left the Tok'Ra homeworld through the stargate, and when they arrive on the other side, everything be different. This would be more realistic (if time travel can be realistic), as the timeline could just have been altered while they were in transit, and hence not effected by it.

The idea that when someone altered the past, that people would just start vanishing, as they didn't exist here anymore, but still be remembered by everyone, is a bit silly.