Coonagh SC

Kess73

Seems there is talk of it being in trouble, the main building has long since missed it's March opening date, and a manager from one of the other local tesco stores was telling me that Tesco are eriousely reconsidering their status as the anchor tenant in a centre that has no other stores.


Two other stores that were going to open second stores in Limerick have pulled out of Coonagh also. This I know for fact as I had an interview for one of them, only to be told that the second store for Limerick is now being but on hold until they can source another unit that they want elsewhere.

Tefral

Sign of things to come for the next few years really... Shopping expenditure is on the slow down given out current economic climate

Sunn

not to mention tescos is pretty expensive.

Tinytony

Given the current slow down, can anybody realistically see the developers pushing ahead with the Opera Centre within the next year? If they don't the city is going to left with a whole block of derelict buildings in the middle of the city. The council are already losing a fortune in rates from them being unoccupied.

Amazotheamazing

Tinytony wrote: »

Given the current slow down, can anybody realistically see the developers pushing ahead with the Opera Centre within the next year? If they don't the city is going to left with a whole block of derelict buildings in the middle of the city. The council are already losing a fortune in rates from them being unoccupied.

No worse than having a newly built empty shopping centre a la Williamscourt and O'Connell Mall in the 1980's.

Tinytony

Sorry bud, not that old!

Amazotheamazing

No worries, anyhow, the recession won't last forever, and the city cenrtre is staying put, so the Opera centre is a better investment than Coonagh.

Tinytony

No questioning which is the better investment. There has to be an end to all these "retail parks" eventually.

1huge1

Makes you wonder about the huge parkway valley shopping centre though, Besides the traffic problems that place is going to create I have high hopes for it

D-A-V-E

ya please god make the parkway valley the last suburban retail park/ shopping centre! its redeculous the amount of these outside the city!

Tinytony

ya i think for those places to work they need to have lots of shops covering nearly everything (like Blanch in Dublin). These retails parks with only 3 or 4 units are a waste of time. I think the city would be well enough served with the Parkway area, the Crescent and a big city centre shopping area (i.e. The Opera Centre)

Kess73

The Opera house idea has not been given the official go ahead yet. It has been lots of hot air mostly by local councillers who like getting their faces in the paper.

There was a short notice on it in last night's Limerick Chronicle with the meeting to decide if the newest version of the building plans get the green light being held on Thursday, and if it is greenlit, the finishing date is now loosely being banded as late 2011, which I will not hold my breath on, and previous finishing dates banded about by the city council included Autumn 2006 and Summer 2008.

um7y1h83ge06nx

Went there for the first time on Sunday and wasn't really impressed.

It's hard to get into from the Shannon side entrance, we got confused and had to go onto the Coonagh roundabout and swing back in again from that side.

The place seemed extremely empty as well with only one tenant, not good.

Poxyshamrock

Kess73 wrote: »

Two other stores that were going to open second stores in Limerick have pulled out of Coonagh also.

So can say who they are?
I know that Boots and Halifax were supposed to be opening as well as Thorntons.

TK Maxx was another rumour.

I think it's ridiculous to be honest.
They said before Christmas when Tesco opened they had a load of tenants lined up.
Now it's a shell

Another Jetland???

bazz26

The suberbs are awash with these retail parks/shopping centres. It was only a matter of time before we reached saturation point. The current lack of consumer confidence and threat of economic recession is only going to hammer the death nail into these places.

The Coonagh Cross SC looks to have been a disaster, multiple big empty retail units with only one struggling tenant there. The Parkway Valley could end up the same and they are still building these places around the Tipperary road with nobody to occupy them.

Developers should not be allowed to build these concrete/steel/glass ghost towns unless they can guarantee they have tenants to fill them.

Kess73

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

So can say who they are?
I know that Boots and Halifax were supposed to be opening as well as Thorntons.

TK Maxx was another rumour.

I think it's ridiculous to be honest.
They said before Christmas when Tesco opened they had a load of tenants lined up.
Now it's a shell

Another Jetland???

Thorntons and Boots.




TK Maxx were never lined up for Coonagh, they viewed a unit in the same park as Woodies and I think that they will be opening circa September/October there, along with an electrical company which is rumoured to be Maplin.

luder

Coming from someone that works in tesco coonagh, business seems to be well up on previous months.

Tesco shannon is closed recently, wether for renovations or permanently i dont know but many of the shannon locals are now travelling to use tesco coonagh..!!

LadyTBolt

I used to shop in Coonagh but have recently discovered online shopping where they deliver to your door at the time and day you want and I love it. There will be no going back for me! Even though I don't physically go to the store Coonagh delivers to me. Tis Great! 2 hours and all of my patience saved each week

1huge1

Tinytony wrote: »

ya i think for those places to work they need to have lots of shops covering nearly everything (like Blanch in Dublin). These retails parks with only 3 or 4 units are a waste of time. I think the city would be well enough served with the Parkway area, the Crescent and a big city centre shopping area (i.e. The Opera Centre)

Well ya but that would leave the northside of the city without any real choice, and to be honest I think all the retail parks built on the northside have been rubbish so far.

Limerick Dude

1huge1 wrote: »

Well ya but that would leave the northside of the city without any real choice, and to be honest I think all the retail parks built on the northside have been rubbish so far.

Lol there has only been one really! and its only been open a year or so!

highlydebased

I've found Tesco far more convienient than Dunnes- Often good bargains to be had also

Would be rather interesting if a Maplin opened down there- Dunno if the city could support two shops though

ninty9er

My guess is that they had a load of tenants lined up when they thought there would be a cinema to draw people over there. Dropping the cinema was a massive cock up.

Parkway Valley is the way to go really as established with the Crescent. Extend rather than disperse all over the place.

topper75

What was badly needed on the Coonagh side was a pool or cinema, not a retail facility. Shame the cinema idea collapsed.

Stab*City

i think that we can kiss goodbye to alot of these projects that have been mentioned in the local papers.. as was mentioned before its all hot air from the council to try and keep limerick on the up and up.. if anybody thinks limerick will be any different to the other places where projects like these have been scraped they have another thing coming.. if it aint thomond park then nobody cares.. look at our marina ffs i remember references to maimi in the local papers now look at it hardly used.. the opera house i wouldnt hold my breath.. all pipe dreams if u ask me.. ffs it took the council 6 years to get a little skatepark half built for the youth/future of limerick.. all these people care about is getting there picture in the paper when these ridiculous projects finally open doors 5 yrs late.. if ever.. all this one way system traffic in town and the thoughts of a pedestrianised city centre!! wake up look around nobody even goes into town anymore save for maybe a saturday.. even then there is probably twice that amount in the crescent or on way there or looking for parking there.. 20 yrs down the line i can see alot more unused buildings lining the streets of limerick.. fur coat and no knickers if u ask me.

CerebralCortex

Stab*City wrote: »

i think that we can kiss goodbye to alot of these projects that have been mentioned in the local papers.....etc

How very optimistic you are!

Stab*City

CerebralCortex wrote: »

How very optimistic you are!

realistic more like.

Amazotheamazing

I dunno, I work in town and Thomas street and Bedford Row are definately busier since the pedestrianisation. The city centre still has a long way to go, but it is improving.

Stab*City

oh cool thats 2 streets out of 50.. way to go limerick CC

Amazotheamazing

Stab*City wrote: »

oh cool thats 2 streets out of 50.. way to go limerick CC

Well Catherine Street is started by now and William street is due to start this Autumn. Like I said, a long way to go but it is improving. Anyhow, being excessively negative about it isn't going to help.

Stab*City

nagative will u people wake the f**k up.. me being excessively negative isnt going to hinder it either.. wow i cant wait to see the new cathrine st.. or wait why bother by then i can go to one of the multitude of shopping centres/retail parks and get what i want all under one roof with decent parking oh and might i add free parking plus alot cheaper i mean its actually funny i can buy a sony tv in harvey normans or currys for way less than the sony shop in town.. ground rents are killing the city.. greedy landlords.. town is dead. wake up.. only reason i would ever go to town now is easons.. and trust me i used to love town but if your not looking for a rugby jersey or some make up and a new frock your better off forgetting town..

Amazotheamazing

Meh, I live in town, suits me.

Stab*City

meh, good for you

oh well

with that nametag, and with your thoughts expressed here, you obviously don't like the city, why don't you just push off and go live elsewhere instead of doing everything you can to downgrade the city. Using a nametag like you have chosen, you couldn't possibly be proud or even pretend to show a fondness for Limerick. You are not just being realistic - you are totally negative.

Stab*City

oh well wrote: »

with that nametag, and with your thoughts expressed here, you obviously don't like the city, why don't you just push off and go live elsewhere instead of doing everything you can to downgrade the city. Using a nametag like you have chosen, you couldn't possibly be proud or even pretend to show a fondness for Limerick. You are not just being realistic - you are totally negative.

oh well u know what to do if u dont like it push off out of this forum.. i chose this nametag to annoy stupid people.. envoke a reaction and u know what it works everytime!! well for the stupid people anyway.. i love the city i just dont like the way its being managed.. and if my comments hurt you so much that you have to personally attack me i think maybe you should go back and bury your head in the sand again!!

talkingclock

oh well. that's the most simple solution. put all critics in a big camp and everything is hunky dory in this little beautyful, peaceful town!

BUT: that doesn't convert a ****hole into Utopia! Welcome to reality!

Stab*City

talkingclock wrote: »

oh well. that's the most simple solution. put all critics in a big camp and everything is hunky dory in this little beautyful, peaceful town!

BUT: that doesn't convert a ****hole into Utopia! Welcome to reality!

im not being critical of the city.. its my home and has been for best part of 31 yrs.. im being critical of these empty promises and pipe dreams being fed to us daily in the limerick "media" by men and women who just want their pic in the out & about section of the post standing next to some government official cutting a red rope.. opera houses, shopping centres what about the F**KING kids?? the future.. what are we doing for them?? took 5 yrs to build a f**king skatepark the size of the palm of my hand.. with no roof so far i might add so good luck skating in the new pool as opposed to a park.. these people have no foresight.. look at the roads!! the traffic lights on the ballysimon another example.. the marina!! the list goes on..

Amazotheamazing

talkingclock wrote: »

oh well. that's the most simple solution. put all critics in a big camp and everything is hunky dory in this little beautyful, peaceful town!

BUT: that doesn't convert a ****hole into Utopia! Welcome to reality!

Not really, but some us feel the town is improving and I don't see why the viewpoint is so objectionable to people.

I mate of mine moved here in the last year and he can't get over how negative everyone is in the city. He was just going through the improvements that he's seen in the last year alone (as an outsider) and doesn't get why some people feel the need to keep denying that any improvement is being made.

Limerick city, like most places, is what you make of it.

LadyTBolt

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Limerick city, like most places, is what you make of it.

+1

Went shopping there on Saturday. Had a really great time strolling around the place. Went for a yummy lunch in Bella Italia, strolled for another while. Had coffee and cakes sitting outside Cruises Street and it was great.
Can't wait til I do it again!

carlowguy32

LadyTBolt wrote: »

+1

Went shopping there on Saturday. Had a really great time strolling around the place. Went for a yummy lunch in Bella Italia, strolled for another while. Had coffee and cakes sitting outside Cruises Street and it was great.
Can't wait til I do it again!

+2 im a blow in 2 and love the place, it is what you make of it, ul has great facilities, new ice skating rick on the way, hopefully get rid of the bowling alley and get a new one

oh well

by using a name which is used by the media in a degoratory way to protray a myth about Limerick, you are only feeding the hand which seeks to put Limerick down. All the good things which are happening and are planned for Limerick will continue to happen despite your negative comments. Rome wasn't built in a day, and so too Limerick will take years to come together but at least it is getting there. Little by little it will develop and build itself up.

Stab*City

oh well wrote: »

by using a name which is used by the media in a degoratory way to protray a myth about Limerick, you are only feeding the hand which seeks to put Limerick down. All the good things which are happening and are planned for Limerick will continue to happen despite your negative comments. Rome wasn't built in a day, and so too Limerick will take years to come together but at least it is getting there. Little by little it will develop and build itself up.

that is the most pathetic thing i have ever heard what bearing does my user name on a forum on the internet have on a city the size of limerick.. its people like you who are whinging about the name that has fueled the fire.. if you stopped crying about being called names and actually got up off you A*S and tried to stem the cause of getting the name in the first place then maybe the name would have been dropped long ago.. dont get me wrong im not blaming you for the troubles limerick has had but i do blame the community of which you are a part of.. if a tenth of what is being invested in construction and legal fees was actually put into the community maybe we wouldnt be in this mess.. would you like to place a wager that "All the good things which are happening and are planned for Limerick will continue to happen". i was reading this week that its inevitable that the regeneration scheme which was supposed to "sort out" limerick could now be pushed back or put on hold.. and hello limerick is already built if they hadnt done such a bad job the first time then they wouldnt have to be covering their tracks these days.. we are easily 20 years behind a comparable city in some other countries and this is down to city planners of yesteryear.. we have no decent amenities, roads, public transport, broadband infrastructure the list goes on.. and if we didnt get these things during the times of the celtic tiger then your are delusional if you think that the "regeneration" of limerick will continue throughout this recession..

Amazotheamazing

Stab*City wrote: »

that is the most pathetic thing i have ever heard what bearing does my user name on a forum on the internet have on a city the size of limerick.. its people like you who are whinging about the name that has fueled the fire.. if you stopped crying about being called names and actually got up off you A*S and tried to stem the cause of getting the name in the first place then maybe the name would have been dropped long ago.. dont get me wrong im not blaming you for the troubles limerick has had but i do blame the community of which you are a part of.. if a tenth of what is being invested in construction and legal fees was actually put into the community maybe we wouldnt be in this mess.. would you like to place a wager that "All the good things which are happening and are planned for Limerick will continue to happen". i was reading this week that its inevitable that the regeneration scheme which was supposed to "sort out" limerick could now be pushed back or put on hold.. and hello limerick is already built if they hadnt done such a bad job the first time then they wouldnt have to be covering their tracks these days.. we are easily 20 years behind a comparable city in some other countries and this is down to city planners of yesteryear.. we have no decent amenities, roads, public transport, broadband infrastructure the list goes on.. and if we didnt get these things during the times of the celtic tiger then your are delusional if you think that the "regeneration" of limerick will continue throughout this recession..

The recession is over rated, we'll be fine.

Stab*City

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

The recession is over rated, we'll be fine.

tell that to my 115 ex workmates who lost their jobs in shannon.. i know its early but wake up..

Amazotheamazing

Stab*City wrote: »

tell that to my 115 ex workmates who lost their jobs in shannon.. i know its early but wake up..

They're probably glad of a break from you for a while.

Stab*City

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

They're probably glad of a break from you for a while.

oh so because i have an opinion i have no friends.. quite the contrary..

Amazotheamazing

Stab*City wrote: »

oh so because i have an opinion i have no friends.. quite the contrary..

You have friends because of your opinions?

fair enough. Relax it a bit.

Stab*City

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

You have friends because of your opinions?

fair enough. Relax it a bit.

no i have opinions and i have friends.. relax what is this a disscussion forum or a place to come and talk about your fav bars everyday..

Kess73

Guys it is a pointless arguement, as both of you are right.

Limerick does have a lot of bad points, and lots of pie in the sky headlines about new shopping centres, mainly said by people who want their face in the paper for their own benefit.


But there is also a lot of good points about Limerick that are to be proud of also, and normally they are the kind of things that do not get the headlines.

I think the reason why a lot of people get worked up over the bad stuff is because they want the city to be better and because they are proud of it and want it to be as good as it can be.


Plus who better to defend and/or attack Limerick than those in it.

From my own experiences, none are better at knocking Limerick than those who are from Limerick, but those same people are normally the ones that defend it to the hilt when it is being slagged off by those from outside the city/county.

Stab*City

Kess73 wrote: »

Guys it is a pointless arguement, as both of you are right.

Limerick does have a lot of bad points, and lots of pie in the sky headlines about new shopping centres, mainly said by people who want their face in the paper for their own benefit.


But there is also a lot of good points about Limerick that are to be proud of also, and normally they are the kind of things that do not get the headlines.

I think the reason why a lot of people get worked up over the bad stuff is because they want the city to be better and because they are proud of it and want it to be as good as it can be.


Plus who better to defend and/or attack Limerick than those in it.

From my own experiences, none are better at knocking Limerick than those who are from Limerick, but those same people are normally the ones that defend it to the hilt when it is being slagged off by those from outside the city/county.

well said...

topper75

Yeah well said sham. I'll have to be dug out of that shower who have their photo in the post when I catch em. The Keanes, Ryans, McC-D's, and Kelly family altogether wouldn't hold me back. I swear to God - hold my jacket there bud...

talkingclock

Stab*City wrote: »

no i have opinions and i have friends.. relax what is this a disscussion forum or a place to come and talk about your fav bars everyday..

Now that's a rhetorical question, isn't it?!

Of course we are here to discuss. Our five best restaurants, our five best bars, our five best DJs, our five best nightclubs. And we do polls as well. Our five best restaurants, our five best bars, our five best DJs, our five best nightclubs. This are the things that really matter here!

If you don't like our top five whatevers go to the Galway forum!