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DRakE

Ok.
Never really been to a gym before, but i have access to one. I'm looking at doing some training now as I'd prefer to not be fat than be carrying a bit of weight. I'm not fat or anything but i'd prefer to tone up so i can look better for the ladies.

Here's what I want to achieve.

Bigger Arms, bigger chest, possible six pack.

How do I go about doing this, how long would it take to achieve some noticeable results. I enjoy eating whatever the flip I want and i'm thinking this could have an effect but i'm wondering how much of an effect it has on stuff like this. Would I have to change my diet much? I dont want to be a bodybuilder, just look better.

Cheers for reading, I've decided to be right to the point cos theres no point dancing around it.. i want to look better for women.

Cheers again

Froot

Eat a balanced diet as prescribed by a nutritionist and get a program from a qualified trainer at your gym and you should see the results you want.

Alternatively read information on websites and learn what good nutrition is and also what good exercise is, sites like T-Nation or EXRX will show you the basics.

pvt.joker

where to start.......read the stickies for a start.

How long to see results? How long is a piece of string?
With a good routine , dedication, a good clean diet you could see some kind of results within a couple of months. There is no quick way to get results.
Ill put it this way.....How long did it take you to get out of shape? Why do you think it'll take less time to get back into decent shape?
The foundation stone in any fitness/building regime is a good clean diet.
Research this, clean up your diet in a big way and then focus on getting a good resistance programme made up in your gym. Do this 3 times a week if you can.
Good luck, and anything is possible if you want it hard enough.

celestial

DRakE wrote: »

Ok.
Never really been to a gym before, but i have access to one. I'm looking at doing some training now as I'd prefer to not be fat than be carrying a bit of weight. I'm not fat or anything but i'd prefer to tone up so i can look better for the ladies.

Here's what I want to achieve.

Bigger Arms, bigger chest, possible six pack.

How do I go about doing this, how long would it take to achieve some noticeable results. I enjoy eating whatever the flip I want and i'm thinking this could have an effect but i'm wondering how much of an effect it has on stuff like this. Would I have to change my diet much? I dont want to be a bodybuilder, just look better.

Cheers for reading, I've decided to be right to the point cos theres no point dancing around it.. i want to look better for women.

Cheers again

You've hit the key part right there in bold. Knowing what you need to do is one thing - putting it into practice in a consistent and dedicated manner is the trick...six packs for the most part aren't achieved eating whatever you want so it's always gonna be a trade off for most people...

pvt.joker

Six packs are as the old saying goes made in the kitchen.

DRakE

well i'm definately not really out of shape, i mean i'm still slim enough and even if i continue eating whatever i want whenever i want i won't really get past what I am weight wise, I play alot of football and walk/cycle alot of places so i'm not worried about puttin on weight..

I'm starting college in Derry next year and i'll have a lot of free time, theres a gym right next to the place I'll be living so i just want to get something going before that. I'll have a look at the websites mentioned, thanks for the replies so far!

DRakE

oh and one other thing i've read alot about are supplements like creatine. I say I've read alot about em but i mean I've noticed them being mentioned in alot of various posts around the internet while I dont have a clue about em.

To achieve bigger arms, chest etc, am I going to need to take any of these? A friend of mine said he mixes them up with fruit yogurt etc and has about 3 of em a day.. he's quite well built though and i dunno if i want to become as ripped as him but then again who knows.. i'm rambling abit

Chucky the tree

These threads are always great.

celestial

Chucky the tree wrote: »

These threads are always great.

So funny how there has been such a spate of them lately on here too!! Must be the time of year:)

Naos

Gah, I might as well shyly stumble in...

Drake, there's no magic formula. To achieve great results, train hard and diet well. It's that simple.

In spite of recieving some great help from Hanley, I've been a lazy b@stard as of late. I started off with great intentions, dieted well and trained hard for a few weeks.

Then I got lazy, started slipping choc bars and skipping gym sessions and now here I am thinking, "If only i'd stayed on track..."

Drake, if you want results, set a goal, set how you will achieve it and stick with it.

This post is really for me. I'm heading to Belgium on Thursday and when I get back, no more bs. Taking photos, measurements, everything. I will diet hard, I will train hard and I will get fit.

Good luck Drake

Malteaser!

Naos wrote: »

Gah, I might as well shyly stumble in...

Drake, there's no magic formula. To achieve great results, train hard and diet well. It's that simple.

In spite of recieving some great help from Hanley, I've been a lazy b@stard as of late. I started off with great intentions, dieted well and trained hard for a few weeks.

Then I got lazy, started slipping choc bars and skipping gym sessions and now here I am thinking, "If only i'd stayed on track..."

Drake, if you want results, set a goal, set how you will achieve it and stick with it.

This post is really for me. I'm heading to Belgium on Thursday and when I get back, no more bs. Taking photos, measurements, everything. I will diet hard, I will train hard and I will get fit.

Good luck Drake

What he said...

Also Naos, you forgot to mention when you come back that you'll be inviting Hanley and Malteaser to come train with you some day, so Hanley can teach and I can be nosey!!!

Hanley

Malteaser! wrote: »

What he said...

Also Naos, you forgot to mention when you come back that you'll be inviting Hanley and Malteaser to come train with you some day, so Hanley can teach and I can be nosey!!!

Lol.....

I was wondering where you'd got to dude. Give the both of us a shout when you get back so we can give you a kick up the ar5e.

TiM_rEAPeR

DRakE wrote: »

oh and one other thing i've read alot about are supplements like creatine. I say I've read alot about em but i mean I've noticed them being mentioned in alot of various posts around the internet while I dont have a clue about em.

To achieve bigger arms, chest etc, am I going to need to take any of these? A friend of mine said he mixes them up with fruit yogurt etc and has about 3 of em a day.. he's quite well built though and i dunno if i want to become as ripped as him but then again who knows.. i'm rambling abit

Ah bless, the tripe about creatine that Ive been hearing from the days of school boy rugby.

If you are a dedicated athlete and you are training in a sport where every second counts then creatine is the fast repair enhancement for that extra second. If your an old joe bloggs looking for a 4 day a week workout after work then you just plain conceited.

I've heard a lot of mixed reviews about creatine. The first was that it was bad, it only causes you to retain water which makes it appear as though you have increased in mass.

However Patrick Holfords "New optimum nutrition" (Bible) "top selling among sports people, promotes muscle regeneration and recovery after exercise as well as improved energy during intensive exercise.. and heres a caution. It is essential to drink plenty of water during usage as dehydration is common. Others get diarrhoea. While it may give you an edge, generally used to support competitive athletes."

My opinion, do the hard work and don't delude yourself that any of this crap will make you 'ripped', your friend is ripped because he works hard and he takes the supplements to supplement the demands that his body have reached. At the end of the day your body makes creatine naturally and it is excreted instantly, you still have to lift the weights. Also, I don't believe any long term test have been carried out on this, although its a relatively harmless solution, it could easily end up as a documentary in 30 years as every consistent user is developing cancer.

If you don't have a healthy diet, (and I mean proper vitamins and removing free radical carbons) you body can't digest the protein or anything that is needed to build muscle in the first place. A lot of people don't know that your muscles are only made up of 22% protein, a tiny increase in your daily protein intake is more then sufficient to meet demands.

I take raw eggs 'rocky style' 1 hour before a workout and it works for me. I should be taking powder, but since I don't drink milk I can't use the whey powder (as humans never evolved to eat wheat or milk..yet)

beastman

arms and chest... usual summer BS... Eh F**k off

pvt.joker

beastman wrote: »

arms and chest... usual summer BS... Eh F**k off

lol

i can see you getting banned for that

Hanley

TiM_rEAPeR wrote: »

I take raw eggs 'rocky style' 1 hour before a workout and it works for me. I should be taking powder, but since I don't drink milk I can't use the whey powder (as humans never evolved to eat wheat or milk..yet)

Darn. All that whey and milk wasted.

smashey

beastman wrote: »

arms and chest... usual summer BS... Eh F**k off

Banned.

davyjose

TiM_rEAPeR wrote: »

as humans never evolved to eat wheat or milk..yet

On the face of it that looks like the most ridiculous statement I've ever seen, so have you any way of backing that up? Any proof?
I understand there are a small percentage of lactose intolerant and coeliac people, but that doesn't really point towards us not having evolved to consume wheat or milk, or does it?

TiM_rEAPeR

davyjose wrote: »

On the face of it that looks like the most ridiculous statement I've ever seen, so have you any way of backing that up? Any proof?
I understand there are a small percentage of lactose intolerant and coeliac people, but that doesn't really point towards us not having evolved to consume wheat or milk, or does it?

I obviously didn't mean for it to sound so factual and prosaic, but there is a lot of evidence from many top nutritionists.

"Since wheat is such a staple food in our diet, with 600 million tons eaten annually making up about our calorie intake, the idea that it isn't good for you may be difficult to swallow. Yet top medical experts, Dr James Braly and Ron Hoggan say this in their groundbreaking book Dangerous Grains. Braly's research now states that coeliac disease effects 1 in a hundred people while gluen sensitivity afects possibly as many as one in ten, often with no symptons at all. For some gluten sensitivity means feeling tired all the time, for others, feeling depresses.

Why is this. Our distant ancestors ate almost no gluten grains and they were only cultivated 10,000 years ago (and only in some parts of the world) This is far too short a time for a hunter-gatherer to genetically adapt and tolerat grains... Gliadin is not found in outs, therefore its worth introducing it and see what happens... The same story could be told for dairy products. Our ancestors weren't milking buffaloes."

This is all power-phrased from Patrick Holfords "New optimum nutrition", standard issue college text book. (although im studying graphic design)

Recently I just found out that I have developed a intolerance to milk (at 20), (a huge fan of milk I probaly consumed more than a litre of dairy a day, im lucky because an uncle of mine only copped it at the age of 50). I was strongly ignorant and refused to believe it, but after being on soy products for the last few months my long suffering sinus has disappeared and I no longer suffer from morning fatigue and drowsiness. The lactose in milk causes a slight adverse reaction in everyones upper tract... excess mucous is produced and this is where bacteria can gather to cause an infection. Tbh, I prefer the taste of soy now and I shudder when I see the vast amounts of milk that are consumed within our country. If we were designed to drink cows mik then why does brest milk differ so enormously from a cow? The thing about being intolerant is that the symptons generally surface 2-3 days later after being absorbed so its sometimes impossible to detect an allergy.

This isn't a nutrition forum anywho, but its all relative to fitness and its quite possible anyone here could have the same unfound problem I did. (it generally comes with denial, then research, then hey presto... your a ranting nutrition wannabe)