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ryanair..! unreal

  • 24-06-2008 7:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭


    so i was booking a cheap o flight to england sunday and unchecked all necesary boxes, no luggage etc.

    then they go asking if i want to be first on the plane for 10e..?!

    are they serious.. they are reaching an all new low now.

    wtf, i mean what if 20 people on that flight wanted to be '1st' on the plane..
    do they pick straws to see who is really '1st' on board.?

    id say that could be a nasty lawsuit for mr o leary.

    so what next.?

    1st to go to toilet. = €5

    1st to get over priced ham sambo = €3

    1st to exit plane = €10


    seems good business sense to me.:cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Ryanair operate a "free seating" policy. You can sit anywhere. First come first served. If you pay this extra fee (called "priority boarding") then you get a separate queue at the airport.

    Last flight I took that queue was as big as the other one - but that queue is all let on the plane before the other queue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭ROVER


    Before if you were travelling with young kids withe buggies etc you could go up to the top of the queue. Does this still apply? Otherwise you are forced to pay for priority boarding as you could have a young family scattered all over the plane.

    If I was flying with just my wife I would not pay as it is not a big deal if you are not seated together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭hunter164


    I flew with them on Monday from Stansted.The queue for the the priority was as long as the queue for non-priority.
    Also the children and old people thing no longer applies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    ROVER wrote: »
    If I was flying with just my wife I would not pay as it is not a big deal if you are not seated together.
    If I was flying with your wife I'd not pay either ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭colly10


    Ye it's pretty funny seeing somone standing by themselves who's actually stupid enough to have paid it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭smartypants


    i never pay it and i ALWAYS get a seat in the first 4 rows. its funny, you see people getting on first and they choose a seat halfway down the plane...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    Isn't priority boarding given free if you check in online?

    That's why that queue is so big these days, not because people actually fork out for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    I was on a flight a few weeks back from Bristol, and the priority boarding que got checked through and were told to wait outside for directions to the plane. By the time the Airport employee came to bring the passenegers to the plane, the normal queue were already outside and most of them boarded before the priority passenegers! :D

    The only reason its there, is to put all the impatient twats in their own line and they also get the pleasure of paying 10 euros for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    If you check-in online, you get free priority boarding but you can only bring hand luggage. It's just another way for Ryanair to a)make money and b)try to ensure a faster turnaround/reduce handling costs. I don't really see the problem tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭hunter164


    Ye the hand luggage is a big problem now aswell.I saw people bringing more or less suitcases that would last you for a good week and a half of a holiday.Then they are trying to smash it into the overhead containers with no regard to anyone else's luggage that is already up there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Some people will also feel by paying the piority boarding fee they are getting speacial treatment .Well paying more just to get on that few minutes earlier is nothing special it's just 'hello, ryanir rip off time again ' and why do i also make the mistake of sitting next to the miserable sod ? :(, the ****er with the ' i have flown many many times with ryanair look on his face ? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭colly10


    latchyco wrote: »
    Some people will also feel by paying the piority boarding fee they are getting speacial treatment .Well paying more just to get on that few minutes earlier is nothing special it's just 'hello, ryanir rip off time again '

    It not even a few minutes, more like a few seconds, the back of the priority line is on a second before the rest of the queue. Theres no special treatment so they can hardly feel priviledged, if they cared about luxury or being treated they shouldn't be flying with ryanair


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    colly10 wrote: »
    It not even a few minutes, more like a few seconds, the back of the priority line is on a second before the rest of the queue. Theres no special treatment so they can hardly feel priviledged, if they cared about luxury or being treated they shouldn't be flying with ryanair

    That's the whole point,dont you think it's daft to pay that extra ? and why else would you unless it to grab a few seats together for a group .I have seen were familys have being seated weell apart as the seats are half filled with the early bordies getting on first.Just dont make sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    I choose not to fly Ryanair. The more I read discussions like this, the more I feel that I am missing out on a supply of good moaning material.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I choose not to fly Ryanair. The more I read discussions like this, the more I feel that I am missing out on a supply of good moaning material.
    I took the Sealink HSS/Rail to the UK first time in years last weekend, only 3 hours in the difference between that and a flight to get to central London from my house. It was a breath of fresh air compaired to all the hassle, b*ll*s" it and red tape one has to put up with by these budget planes these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    Even if you check in online you still have to pay 10 euro for priority boarding, there is a separate question asking if you don't want to be one of the priority passengers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    The more I read discussions like this, it makes me think that people are only looking for a supply of good moaning material.

    It also makes me think that people feel as if they are obliged to fly on a Ryanair flight.

    If you were unhappy with the service or prices in a shop or restaurant, you would go somewhere else. Same applies to airlines folks. I m sure one of you has rang Joe Duffy already though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭wall


    I only go abroad about once or twice a year so when i do i would prefer to pay 4 times what RyanAir charge than travel with them, i would not go somewhere if the only choice was RyanAir to get there. I like to make the journey as hassle free as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    LolaDub wrote: »
    Even if you check in online you still have to pay 10 euro for priority boarding, there is a separate question asking if you don't want to be one of the priority passengers.
    It’s called being penalized by default, a well known trick of Ryanair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    I know, i was posting as previous posters seemed to think there was no charge for online check in priority board. Ryanair hide a good few charges when booking sneaky sneaky!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭LadyMayBelle


    For all the whinging about ryanair, I juts booked myself a few days in the UK, and it only cost me 2c plus the handling fee of my credit card (3.20) bingo!!

    Flights are being offered free form taxes and charges, and I chose to bring no bags and couldnt be arsed whether Im first last whatever on the plane as Its only a short flight...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    Thats one thing ryanair are great for. When did you book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭LadyMayBelle


    Just now. Logged on earlier with no intention of booking, but when i saw they were free(and actually are) i took the chance. Booking ones for August tomorrow if the offer stands, and even if something came up that I couldnt go, I only lose three euro booking fee...feckin delighted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    latchyco wrote: »
    Some people will also feel by paying the piority boarding fee they are getting speacial treatment .Well paying more just to get on that few minutes earlier is nothing special it's just 'hello, ryanir rip off time again ' and why do i also make the mistake of sitting next to the miserable sod ? :(, the ****er with the ' i have flown many many times with ryanair look on his face ? :D

    Some people will pay the extra so that they can get off the plane first, i.e. by sitting in the first few rows. Others will do it so they can secure an emergency exit seat (which have way more room than the standard seats). Yet more will want to sit with their spouse/kids/friends whatever.

    In short, they are willing to pay a few € extra and it's their choice to do so. Get. Over. It.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    I am sure there are also many who pay the extra for priority boarding because they click through things without reading carefully. Such ambush selling must make a significant contribution to Ryanair's profits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    colly10 wrote: »
    Ye it's pretty funny seeing somone standing by themselves who's actually stupid enough to have paid it

    Most people won't have paid for it because they checked in online and printed their own boarding pass, which gives you priority boarding for free.

    As for how this affects the elderly, I flew with Ryanair last week and there was a couple of elderly ppl on the flight, they didn't have priority boarding but the boarding gate staff had a few seats reserved for them on the plane which is probably more than you'd get with Aer Lingus!

    I don't think you have any scope to complain about this when <a> no one is forced to buy it and you get it free if you print your own boarding pass <b> you get a flight dirt cheap!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    LolaDub wrote: »
    Even if you check in online you still have to pay 10 euro for priority boarding, there is a separate question asking if you don't want to be one of the priority passengers.

    Yes that is correct
    It’s called being penalized by default, a well known trick of Ryanair.

    part of thr ryanair jargon
    Some people will pay the extra so that they can get off the plane first, i.e. by sitting in the first few rows. Others will do it so they can secure an emergency exit seat (which have way more room than the standard seats). Yet more will want to sit with their spouse/kids/friends whatever.

    In short, they are willing to pay a few € extra and it's their choice to do so. Get. Over. It.

    well you have just stated the obious ,why else would they pay for it :rolleyes: but thats the whole issue .Do football clubs charge fans another £5/10 pounds just to get into the ground before the others ? No , your being ripped off .It would make sense to seat familys couples ie, together first and then sit single people last like they just used to do for decades .

    As for ryanair , i am equally happy sailing to ireland from holyhead (2hrs ) I will fly if it suits me at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    It seems that people love nothing more than a good rant at Ryanair. Yes, Ryanair are a terrible arline; they hit you with hidden charges, make you pay for absolutely everything and annoy you during the entire flight by trying to flog you extras. But you know what? Air Lingus are just as bad; as are pretty much all the other airlines you could care to think about. The difference is that Ryanair charge you an appropriate price to treat you like s**te, the others charge through the nose to give you that privilage. The fact is that now oil prices are skyrocketing, ALL the airlines are trying to make a quick buck wherever they can.

    Case in point, last year when myself and OH were flying to Rome, Air Lingus were charging more than double for the same flight and the ironic thing is that the airport Ryanair use in Rome is actually closer to the city than the Air Lingus one!

    Yes Air Lingus prices have come down a little in recent times and who do we have to thank? Yep, good old Ryanair. Air Lingus have finally cottoned on to the fact that they can no longer get away with charging whatever the hell they like!

    So long live Ryanair I say! I don't care about dodgy extra charges, stampedes for seats and flights at 6 in the morning, if they get me there on time and at a reasonable price then that is good enough for me.

    If you don't like it, don't fly with them! Simple. As. That. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    latchyco wrote: »
    Do football clubs charge fans another £5/10 pounds just to get into the ground before the others ?

    No, but they prioritise the distribution of tickets for away games based on how much you've spent up front. I get tickets for every game home and away with Spurs, because I dished out £1350stg last month. Indeed, because I am prepared to pay the extra £700 for an away season ticket I get tickets ahead of people who have been following the club for years, and who rank higher than me in terms of the clubs loyalty scheme.

    For the Carling Cup final myself and all of the other away season ticket holders had first choice on our seats from the clubs allocation.

    Our club membership is split into two this year, with those paying £15 extra going on our ST waiting list and also getting priority on tickets for home games over ordinary members.

    In short, we pay for a service which delivers certain benefits. Much like paying for priority boarding with Ryanair.
    latchyco wrote: »
    No , your being ripped off .It would make sense to seat familys couples ie, together first and then sit single people last like they just used to do for decades .

    I'm not though, the charge is discretionary. I'm flying to Cork in November for a sum total of €8.02. I'm not checking in a bag, nor have I purchased priority boarding. For decades people got a free drink and snack on board an aircraft, and maybe a free newspaper. Now I have the choice of paying more than the cost of my flight for a cup of coffee/sandwich/Indo. Remind me again how I'm being ripped off?

    Yes it's tough on families, or people who wish to check in baggage, but guess what...that's the market in operation, if people want a better service then go to another airline and reward them for not cutting back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Climate Expert


    Schemes like this are great. The fools are needed to subsidise the €20 flights for the rest of us.

    Ryanair are my favourite airline in the world. They fly to loads of destinations, have the least amount of delays and are the cheapest going.

    Flying to England next week for a weekend. Peak times, Friday to Sunday, €25 return all in.
    Don't check in bags, don't buy insurance, check in online and everything is good.
    Now I have the choice of paying more than the cost of my flight for a cup of coffee/sandwich/Indo
    Thats just it isn't it. You got a sandwich for a two hour flight but you paid 2 weeks wages for it whether you wanted that sandwich or not.

    1983 the newspaper for the day I was born had this ad for Aerlingus. 'Save money, cheap flghts to Amsterdam from £160'

    Now the average wage back then was less than £4k. I would sooner get spat on by Michael O'Leary than pay that sort of money for inflated unionised rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 pammie


    I was hoping someone could help me with something.
    I want to book flights on ryanair but they are charging me e10 for each passenger for no check in luggage and airport check in. What are they charging me e10 for when am not checking in any luggage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Probably priority boarding. Go back to the start of the process and carefully read each option.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Isn't priority boarding given free if you check in online?

    That's why that queue is so big these days, not because people actually fork out for it.
    An Citeog wrote: »
    If you check-in online, you get free priority boarding but you can only bring hand luggage.

    Not any more, they did away with it a few weeks ago and introduced a charge of €5 each way. Their argument was that so many people booking and checking-in online were getting free priority boarding that it left no priority places for passengers who hadn't checked-in online and wanted to pay for priority boarding at the airport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 pammie


    random wrote: »
    Probably priority boarding. Go back to the start of the process and carefully read each option.

    And I don't have to click priority boarding don't I not?its only if you want to be one of the first to board the plane right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    pammie wrote: »
    I was hoping someone could help me with something.
    I want to book flights on ryanair but they are charging me e10 for each passenger for no check in luggage and airport check in. What are they charging me e10 for when am not checking in any luggage?

    If you go to just underneath the amount of bags you should unclick do you want to be one of the first to board plane etc but i think ryanair have introduced an airport check in charge now


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    eth0_ wrote: »
    As for how this affects the elderly, I flew with Ryanair last week and there was a couple of elderly ppl on the flight, they didn't have priority boarding but the boarding gate staff had a few seats reserved for them on the plane which is probably more than you'd get with Aer Lingus!

    With Aer Lingus they would have had assigned seats so wouldn't need to rely on the mercy of the gate staff.
    eth0_ wrote:
    I don't think you have any scope to complain about this when <a> no one is forced to buy it and you get it free if you print your own boarding pass <b> you get a flight dirt cheap!

    Not any more....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭LOTTOWINNER


    Flying to England next week for a weekend. Peak times, Friday to Sunday, €25 return all in.
    Don't check in bags, don't buy insurance, check in online and everything is good.


    What credit card did you use to book your flights? I also booked flights to England, O euro each way, so I just had to pay tax and charges, which came to 25euro, BUT there was a 7.50 euro charge for Visa, so the total was 32.50.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭LolaDub


    A 7.50 credit card charge???? Thats unreal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭LOTTOWINNER


    PAYMENT DETAILS

    *********0.00 EUR Total Fare

    ********49.96 EUR Taxes, Fees & Charges

    ********16.00 EUR Passenger Fee: CC

    ********65.96 EUR Total Paid

    I think it's a credit card fee?? see above for details! still not sure what the charge is for!!!
    NO:confused: priority boarding,NO travel insurance????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    The funniest thing I have seen with priority boarding was at a small airport in France where passengers are brought from the gate to the plane by bus. The priority people got to board the bus first and then the normal passengers boarded the same bus. Class! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Had this before too. We got on the bus after the priority boarding people and got off the bus before them, also getting on the plane first :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Last January I went to London twice with Ryanair for free, no taxes, CC charge or anything(well, €0.01), my Dad went to Cork with 7 relatives for free and my parents went to London 2 weeks ago for free.

    To be perfectly honest, I cannot moan about an airline that not only provides cheaper flights than any other airline and has less delays and less lost baggage than any other airline, but also periodically offers 100% free flights to numerous destinations, simply because the 1 or 2 hour journey is not extremely comfortable and that they charge extortionate prices for optional and unnecessary extras.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I always have and always will pay for priority boarding, it means I can either sit in the front row or on the emergency exits so I can stretch my legs out with the extra leg room while you stingy f*cks sit there with your knees scraping your chins laughing to yourselves about the "twats" who got "ripped off".

    I'd pay 5 times the amount to get the same seats, flights aren't comfortable experiences as is so whatever extra room one can get, I'll take it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Whatever floats your boat, or I suppose in this case "elevates your aeroplane", I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Rb wrote: »
    I always have and always will pay for priority boarding, it means I can either sit in the front row or on the emergency exits so I can stretch my legs out with the extra leg room while you stingy f*cks sit there with your knees scraping your chins laughing to yourselves about the "twats" who got "ripped off".

    I'd pay 5 times the amount to get the same seats, flights aren't comfortable experiences as is so whatever extra room one can get, I'll take it.

    I too always go for emergency aisles as I am a big git!! This includes paying €33...yes thats €33....for a seat with Aer Lingus if flying 4 hours or more (If I am flying less than that I usually chance me arm on check-in)

    However, I don't pay for priority boarding with Ryanair and I have always managed to get a seat in those aisles...usually because there's only a few people who bother to pay for it so I just try and get ahead of other non-priotity!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭gucci


    Can 1 passanger book more than one bag on a flight?
    Sorry the website is on the blink at them moment, so I cant find out for myself!

    Or is it possible to book on "2 bags" but actually only bring one bag, of 30kg instead of 2 x 15kg? Sorry I am moving country and need to know how to do it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Riskymove wrote: »
    I too always go for emergency aisles as I am a big git!! This includes paying €33...yes thats €33....for a seat with Aer Lingus if flying 4 hours or more (If I am flying less than that I usually chance me arm on check-in)

    However, I don't pay for priority boarding with Ryanair and I have always managed to get a seat in those aisles...usually because there's only a few people who bother to pay for it so I just try and get ahead of other non-priotity!!
    Well one thing about priority Boarding is that it'll generally be a lot of families or older people paying for it. Both are automatically disqualified from sitting at the emergency exits so they're generally relatively easy to get to, however being in the priority boarding queue just ensures I get it :)

    With Aer Lingus I'll always book the emergency exits if possible. We booked the front row recently only to find they've put up partitions up there between the door and the seats so there's actually very, very little extra leg room. Nice scam by Air lingus tbh, on the Ryanair planes the front row has no partition so you can stretch out as far as your legs can reach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭TripleAce


    i never pay it and i ALWAYS get a seat in the first 4 rows. its funny, you see people getting on first and they choose a seat halfway down the plane...

    'cause half way down the plane near the Emergency Exits you have plenty more leg space!!! How cares about sitting in the first 4 rows..... :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Sitting in the first 4 rows means you can exit the plane fast and not be held up by people fishing stuff out of the overhead bins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭HoneyButterfly


    When they say 'First' they mean before the regular joe soaps (me!) they let "priopity boarding' board first. Its totally stupid as the two lines then end up being the same length. So I don't bother paying the extra money to "board first' because if you're near the top of the regular que then there's really not much difference. Its all a money making thing with them, and they can keep doing it for as long as they want really. I read on the Independant ages ago that this year Ryanair are just about breaking even?? I don't understand then how they can give away free flights. I booked free(tax was something like 8 euro only :eek:) flights to Scotland the other week and there loads of free flights going, so how then can they complain about not making enough money this year...confusing


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