How To Be A Psychic

johnsix

Ghost Girl wrote: »

oh man do u watch the tv at all?? i specifically said the irish times for a reason....never mind, forget it.

What psychic has ever predicted anything to the exact day and with exact details?
All I've seen on TV is Psychics fail and make excuses.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SmNP6wZJg6A

???

I can write down a newspaper headline for next week. Seal it in an envelope. Post it to someone. Meet up with them on the day the headline is for and they can open the envelope to show it.

LCDeelite

[quote=johnsix;56340479]I don't actually know cause I never seen (grammar?) an online reading and there seems to be a reluctance to do them here. But I can imagine they're somewhat like astrological readings[/quote]

Share EVERYTHING you know about astrology- don't leave anything out. All in your own words, of course. I imagine that, having seemingly dismissed its validity, you have researched the subject inside and out for many years of your life in order to reach that conclusion.. Just interested to read everything you know on the subject.. GO AHEAD, friend.

Cold reading gets thrown around alot (sp?) because it is the most common method "psychics" use. That doesn't mean skeptics are good at it, just know how it is done

But surely a good and thorough skeptic worth their salt at all would be armed with such passion for debunking in order to do a 'psychic reading' based on cold reading themselves? It's a eency weency bit pointless if you aren't brave enough (or can't be bothered perhaps?) to 'get your hands dirty'. CRAP.

SkepticOne

Most people can think of occasions where they are thinking of someone and the phone rings and sure enough it is the person they were thinking about. Is that evidence of psychic powers? Did they "predict" the event in some way? No, it is too easily accounted for by mere coincidence.

To demonstrate predictive ability we must show that we can do it repeatedly under controlled circumstances. For example the probability of a "3" coming on the first ball in the lottery is 1 in 10. If astrology or whatever could be used to predict the number with a greater success than 1 in 10 (it need not be 100% accurate) in advance of the actual draw, then I would regard that as reasonable evidence that there's something to astrology.

???

As a huge favour would you not mess around with the colours, it's a pain to read!

LCDeelite wrote: »

johnsix wrote: »

I don't actually know cause I never seen(grammar?) an online reading and there seems to be a reluctance to do them here. But I can imagine they're somewhat like astrological readings

Pointless nit picking.

Share EVERYTHING you know about astrology- don't leave anything out. All in your own words, of course. I imagine that, having seemingly dismissed its validity, you have researched the subject inside and out for many years of your life in order to reach that conclusion.. Just interested to read everything you know on the subject.. GO AHEAD, friend.

Fallacys. Burden of proof and false premise. It is up to atrologers to prove astrology works. I dismiss the idea there is an invisible elephant in my room out of hand because:
a) It breaks the laws of the universe, and
b) I have no reason to believe there should be one.

There's also the false premise that you need to learn everything there is to know about astrology to justifiably dismiss it. That my dear, is ludacrious. For me, as a sceptic, to even consider the possibility astrology works I would need a teensy weensy bit of evidence. Also, a method of operation would be nice, given that all the ones I've seen are, well... pretty hysterical stuff, prime examples of special pleading.

But surely a good and thorough skeptic worth their salt at all would be armed with such passion for debunking in order to do a 'psychic reading' based on cold reading themselves?

Did one for 6th. Maybe you should check before ranting?

It's a eency weency bit pointless if you aren't brave enough (or can't be bothered perhaps?) to 'get your hands dirty'.

See above.

CRAP.

MANNERS???

iamhunted

??? wrote: »

I can write down a newspaper headline for next week. Seal it in an envelope. Post it to someone. Meet up with them on the day the headline is for and they can open the envelope to show it.

thats a bit like what derren brown done with doctor who - cant remember when the show was but it was recent enough. neither of them are psychic afaik.

iamhunted

whats this sceptical fascination with invisible elephants? and, while im at it, laws of the universe? we know all the laws related to the universe - including all the universes we dont know anything about? thats a tad over reaching dont you think? same time, sure us modern humans know everything there is to know I suppose - just like in the 1800's!!

???

Why? Universal laws would relate to our universe alone. And another strawman! Do you ever debate what people say or do you just argue against what you wanted them to say? Just because we don't know everything is no reason to assume we don't know anything.

Would you rather I used unicorns?

And yes, it's a magic trick.

iamhunted

strawman? first up - please, try a new word.

secondly, look up its meaning. its not a strawman argument to point out that your idea that something would 'break the laws of the universe' is a tall order considering we're only learning about the universe, plus we cant say how strict our 'rules' are.

Unless though one believes, as has many throughout the ages, that the current crop of humans know everything.

iamhunted

??? wrote: »

Do you ever debate what people say or do you just argue against what you wanted them to say?

ah - don't be giving up and resorting to everyday generalisation.

???

Your strawman was that someone had said that we know everything about the universe. No one has until you said it and then argued against it. Textbook strawman argumnent.

Standman

Just out of curiosity ???, have you been given the psychic reading you requested?

???

Hahaha nope! Got in trouble for posting a thread saying it as well!