Is the British "Royal Mail" secretly running An Post?

Run_to_da_hills

I was in Dublin city Ctr today and snapped up a few photos of an employee of an Post collecting mail from a box off Grafton St using UK Royal Mail collection bags. I didn't think An Post was a subsidary of "Royal Mail". Perhaps anyone from An Post could explain this matter.

Victor

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I was in Dublin city Ctr today and snapped up a few photos of an employee of an Post collecting mail from a box off Grafton St using UK Royal Mail collection bags. I didn't think An Post was a subsidary of "Royal Mail".

Bags simply wander between systems, seeing the world, kinda like with those J1 visas.

phantom_lord

why would that be the first conclusion you come to on seeing that? far more likely it's something like that they just were using some bags lying around from mail that was sent from Britain.

challengemaster

If stuff is sent from England usually its via royal mail, so I'm sure there's a few bags and whatever sent over containing things, that are just kept. I think unless you see a Royal Mail design on the post office/vans/etc you've nothing to worry about

Also you must have looked quite odd taking pics of a mailman

Run_to_da_hills

Victor wrote: »

Bags simply wander between systems, seeing the world, kinda like with those J1 visas.

This would not have happened in the bad days of the 80ies.

Fratton Fred

Half the Post Boxes in Dun Laoghaire are old Royal Mail ones painted Green (Except they refer to George rather than Elizabeth), so maybe they are.

Blisterman

No, otherwise it'd wouldn't cost twice as much to send a letter from London to Dublin, as to send a letter from London to Belfast, further away.

rossie1977

challengemaster wrote: »

If stuff is sent from England usually its via royal mail, so I'm sure there's a few bags and whatever sent over containing things, that are just kept. I think unless you see a Royal Mail design on the post office/vans/etc you've nothing to worry about

or mailboxes perhaps, there are loads of old royal mail boxes still in ireland they just painted them green
leitrim http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Dromod_Station.jpg http://www.stockphotography.co.uk/Upload/Stock/Watermarked/24372.jpg
dublin http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Johnstownbridge_WB74.jpg

Dudess

An Post are obviously a bunch of PC West Brits - kill 'em all!!!

mike65

TheY shOUld all be ripped out! IMM outraged I am!

Mike.

Robbo

800 years of oppression and now this? Foreign rule through postal equipment? My local SF TD is going to hear about this...if where I live was backward enough to elect one.

Run_to_da_hills

Robbo wrote: »

800 years of oppression and now this? Foreign rule through postal equipment? My local SF TD is going to hear about this...if where I live was backward enough to elect one.

Just imagine if we voted YES, we would have every sort of post bag from Europe being used.

RayM

I must admin, An Post are using quite a few red vans at the moment. That's it, I'm joining the Real IRA before this goes too far.

Robbo

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Just imagine if we voted YES, we would have every sort of post bag from Europe being used.

I'm pretty sure Coir already put that on a poster for the No campaign.

RasTa

lol at stopping to take a photo. I done some xmass casual delivery work for An post most if not all of the mail bags are RM(also worked for them 2, no An Post bags).

Run_to_da_hills

RasTa wrote: »

lol at stopping to take a photo. I done some xmass casual delivery work for An post most if not all of the mail bags are RM(also worked for them 2, no An Post bags).

You mean to say An Post is using stolen property for its daily Dublin collections :eek:

Im sure there is a small print, i.e "Property of Royal Mail".

biko

Funny, I saw the same thing yesterday and was a bit surprised at first.
The mail collectors probably just use the bags that are sent back and forth between us and UK.

Run_to_da_hills

biko wrote: »

The mail collectors probably just use the bags that are sent back and forth between us and UK.

You would think that they would sort all this out on the mail boat before it docks.

ejmaztec

If the Royal Mail were running the Irish postal system, you wouldn't be seeing much mail coming through your letter-box.

Ponster

ejmaztec wrote: »

If the Royal Mail were running the Irish postal system, you wouldn't be seeing much mail coming through your letter-box.

Proof that they *are*running it then !

ejmaztec

Ponster wrote: »

Proof that they *are*running it then !

Revealed - a major conspiracy. The British never left the country, they just painted everything green in the hopes that nobody would notice that they were still running the show. Man the barricades!

marco murphy

RM Bags :@ What next ?

See a lot of red lorries driving round with Royal Mail scratched out.

javaboy

There's no conspiracy. I bet there's a bunch of people in Royal Mail p***ed off that An Post never return their bags.

It's similar to how people use charity bags as free bin bags.

corkgal1981

Haha! This thread is brill! I work for An Post! Those bags are swiped from the planes after they bring over mail from Britain. So no, we're not in a secret plot with the British, we're just stealing their bags!! Honestly though, all the bags get mixed up, its just that the Royal Mail ones kinda stand out cos their the only country who bother putting their name on the bags!

Sherifu

This is big Ted.

rossie1977

corkgal1981 wrote: »

Haha! This thread is brill! I work for An Post! Those bags are swiped from the planes after they bring over mail from Britain. So no, we're not in a secret plot with the British, we're just stealing their bags!! Honestly though, all the bags get mixed up, its just that the Royal Mail ones kinda stand out cos their the only country who bother putting their name on the bags!

who is going to believe that now seriously bags mixed up yeah right, its a conspiracy i tells ya; thats why the boyz tried to protect the gpo back in easter 1916, they failed though

snickerpuss

I would have just asked the bloke if I was that bothered.

Eoin

javaboy wrote: »

It's similar to how people use charity bags as free bin bags.

The same charity bags that always have a company number instead of a charity number on them?

corkgal1981

Im always fascinated by peoples ideas regarding post! The other day someone asked 'If I buy stamps today do I have to use them today?'!!! Also, people have a huge interest in knowing the collection times...it all ends up in the same place that night! Doesnt matter if you post it at 6am or 6pm!

Fratton Fred

ejmaztec wrote: »

Revealed - a major conspiracy. The British never left the country, they just painted everything green in the hopes that nobody would notice that they were still running the show. Man the barricades!

Don't be daft, if that were the case we would all support Man United, watch Corrie, err read the Sun, shop at Tesco, go to Shagaluf on holiday.....:eek:

Quick, off to the Conspiracy theory forum

Agamemnon

Haha Britishers, you may take our freedom but we'll steal your forking post bags and never give them back!!!

Run_to_da_hills

Maybe these mail bags could have been only recently discovered in the vaults of the GPO.

CtrlSource

Who's the Minister responsible for An Post? S/he must be brought before a special Dail sitting at once, to answer questions on this matter of critical national importance. Otherwise i forsee our Ambassador in London being called in to answer before Her Majesty once news of this gets out! :P

Actually i remember the Post Office in UCD always had loads of these Royal Mail bags lying around to put your letters in (they didnt seem to bother to use the postbox) and i always thought it a bit odd at the time. i guess it's just as others said... these bags tend to get exchanged

RATM

I work for An Post in the Dublin Mail Center casually over Xmas and Summers and we were just talking about this a few days back. In the mail center where I work ( which is the biggest in the country by a long shot ) down in the parcel division the majority of bags we use are Royal Mail, probably because An Post never gives them back to the UK...

You make take our lives but you can never take our post bags:D

rogue-entity

If Royal Mail were running An Post.. maybe we would have a proper postcode system and mail would actually be delivered on time and accurately.

I had a letter from my insurance company go to the wrong house, which fortunatly happens to be owned by friends of my parents. And on two occasions, AIB Code-Cards got lost in the post, but third time was the charm.

Eoin

rogue-entity wrote: »

If Royal Mail were running An Post.. maybe we would have a proper postcode system and mail would actually be delivered on time and accurately.

Is the Royal Mail really that much better?

It is up the government, not An Post, to introduce national post codes, which they are finalising plans for.

Talliesin

ejmaztec wrote: »

The British never left the country, they just painted everything green in the hopes that nobody would notice that they were still running the show.

I remember talking to someone who had been in Cumann na Gael during the time of the Free State. He told me about a rather cynical comrade of his who had said that if the Free State was replaced with a republic that "the only thing that'll change is that lamp post over there will be painted green".

And sure enough it was, until safety regulations about lampposts in central islands of roads below a certain width led to it being painted yellow and black.

eoin_s wrote: »

It is up the government, not An Post, to introduce national post codes, which they are finalising plans for.

I preferred one of the schemes they didn't go for to they one they seem likely to implement.

I agree though that An Post - who have very good records of address information throughout the country - aren't exactly likely to want to introduce something that will make deliveries no easier for them but considerably easier for every competing company. Why would they?

Guy:Incognito

Why is Royal mail in inverted comma's? It's not a pretend company you know. (despite some comments about their service )

I assume that you really took the first picture just to get a pic of yer one's ass, right?

Zzippy

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Half the Post Boxes in Dun Laoghaire are old Royal Mail ones painted Green (Except they refer to George rather than Elizabeth), so maybe they are.

You mean Kingstown, right?

Talliesin

Myth wrote: »

I assume that you really took the first picture just to get a pic of yer one's ass, right?

That's perhaps less disturbing than the OP's apparent postman stalking predilections.

Terrontress

eoin_s wrote: »

Is the Royal Mail really that much better?

No, they are both awful although Royal Mail come six times a week.

LordSutch

Coincidentally I was speaking to my postie a few months ago about his 'An Post' Bicycle, and he told me that it was the Bike specially designed for the Royal Mail, apparently An Post had chosen this RM one out of many bicycle makes & models from across Europe!

ejmaztec

ArthurF wrote: »

Coincidentally I was speaking to my postie a few months ago about his 'An Post' Bicycle, and he told me that it was the Bike specially designed for the Royal Mail, apparently An Post had chosen this RM one out of many bicycle makes & models from across Europe!

All filled with high explosive and timed to go off when the invasion starts.:eek:

RuggieBear

The postal system played a very important part in the history of Ireland and the role of the Britain's quest for imperial control. Read a thesis about it recently. the Post Office was one of a number of executive arms of government whose methods and bureaucracy came under increased scrutiny during the early 19th century. The postal network was expanding from the Act of Union onwards as the state increased its communications reach with each new year. In the beginning, the network followed the developing road pattern but as time went on the demand for postal services and the state’s desire to provide them meant that transport links were constructed in order to link areas by post.

The mail boat was hugely important and ports such as howth and holyhead were created for it.

mikemac

javaboy wrote: »

There's no conspiracy. I bet there's a bunch of people in Royal Mail p***ed off that An Post never return their bags.

Lol, it seems An Post are thieves.

Agree with others, there are countless examples of old British mailboxes and all they did was paint them green

_blank_

You could bet your house on this.

I bet Royal Mail in Britain don't use An Post bags.

Also, remember when it was ok to spend Sterling 1p and 2p pieces here?

I tried to spend some Punt 1p and 2p pieces in england once, and they wouldn't take them.

DesF

DesF wrote: »

I tried to spend some Punt 1p and 2p pieces in england once, and they wouldn't take them.

English shops won't even take NI sterling notes.

Run_to_da_hills

Deleted User wrote: »

English shops won't even take NI sterling notes.

I wouldnt blame them, I don't know of any other country in the world that would allow every tom dick and harry to print money, There must be about a dozen different types fivers in circulation in the north.

antodeco

Well it does depend on the sichuation...

Run_to_da_hills

antodeco wrote: »

sichuation...