Tiger to miss rest of the season!!!

kmart6

:eek:

As the title says....breaking news on SSN!!!

Here's the link to it ....

Reconstructive surgery....must have done some damage over the weekend!!!:eek:

HITMANHEALY

kmart6 wrote: »

:eek:

As the title says....breaking news on SSN!!!

Here's the link to it ....

Reconstructive surgery....must have done some damage over the weekend!!!:eek:

Goosen the knob - had a feeling he could play through the pain

thats gives anyone a chance for the majors

azzeretti

Unreal to think that he might not get to Jack's record because of an injury.....hopefully he'd still be regarded as the best. I bet Goosen feels a little sheepish now.

ant043

that takes an awful lot of enjoyment out for the rest of the season. No tournament is the same when he's not there. It won't mean as much winning the british open this year cause you haven't beaten the best.

kmart6

Ah he's only gone for one season as of yet,bit early to be talking about not getting the record!

DonalN

so you're saying.....I have a chance ???

callaway92

DonalN wrote: »

so you're saying.....I have a chance ???

Epic Fail

copacetic

will be a great shame not to see him at open and on the losing side at the Ryder cup. Certainly looks like it was a mistake for him to play the US open, he probably could have fully recovered and played last 2 majors.

stockdam

Yes it looks like he may have been given some bad advice.

He had no need to prove anything to anybody and should have waited until he was 100%.

As was said it gives others a chance for a while. The record books will show who wins but it's always better to win when he's in the field as you can then say you've beaten the best over the week.

kmart6

stockdam wrote: »

Yes it looks like he may have been given some bad advice.

:rolleyes:

What are you on about?! He clearly said over the weekend that his doctors had advised him not to play, and that he's not good at listening to them!!

ziggy

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MisterAnarchy

He was a very foolish man to come back so quickly.
He has done himself serious long term damage by rushing back for the US open.
It has been proven time and time again that you cannot return from injury too quickly.

kmart6

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

He was a very foolish man to come back so quickly.
He has done himself serious long term damage by rushing back for the US open.
It has been proven time and time again that you cannot return from injury too quickly.

One season isn't long term in golf!

copacetic

kmart6 wrote: »

One season isn't long term in golf!

yes, but anyone with knee trouble will tell you he has set himself up for serious trouble for the rest of his life. It will never be 100% imo, how many people have we seen in other sports have their career ended by similar issues.
Golf is obviously easier on the knees than some sports but not the way he swings the club..

kmart6

True enough, but considering he will have the best doctors in the world and the best recovery program I can imagine him being back to normal when he ever it is when he comes back!

JerryHandbag

Tiger obviously values the US Open above the Ryder Cup, but with his performances in the last 2 or 3 ryder cups thats easy to understand!!....dont agree that the next 2 majors will be devalued, he doesnt win EVERY major he plays, hes been a pro 12 years and has 14 majors so thats roughly an average of one per year.....great chance now at the Open for the likes of Garcia, Rose, Karlsson, Westwood, Adam Scott to win their first major....

kmart6

Yeah but him not being there does detract from them!

Mr Alan

anyone know if he'll still be ranked number 1 when he comes back?

i remember a few years ago he was so far ahead on the world ranking points that he could afford to take off over a year and come back still world number 1, or did i dream that?

taidghbaby

i have to say i'm always shouting against him (for the underdog, and also because of his american support) but to win a major like he did at the weekend shows he's probably the greatest sportsman we'll ever see!!

kmart6

Mr Alan wrote: »

anyone know if he'll still be ranked number 1 when he comes back?

i remember a few years ago he was so far ahead on the world ranking points that he could afford to take off over a year and come back still world number 1, or did i dream that?

Well as of before the Open finished the top three looked like this,

1) Tiger Woods 21.54
2) Phil Mickelson 10.21
3) Adam Scott 5.86

That's a huge gap, and for him to lose it Mickelson would need to be winning a lot of tournaments and the Majors! If it turns into a situation where different people are winning every week there's no chance he'll lose it.

JerryHandbag

Mr Alan wrote: »

anyone know if he'll still be ranked number 1 when he comes back?

i remember a few years ago he was so far ahead on the world ranking points that he could afford to take off over a year and come back still world number 1, or did i dream that?

You didnt dream it, in fact I think it was TWO years he could afford to take off and still be number 1. :eek: And I think that was a time when he wasnt as dominant in the game as he is now.....so I think his top spot is pretty safe for this decade anyway!

ant043

he is the greatest player to ever have played golf, of course its going to devalue the british open slightly.

rigal

ant043 wrote: »

he is the greatest player to ever have played golf, of course its going to devalue the british open slightly.

Definitely.

I'm heading over to Birkdale on the Tuesday with my nephew. Got free flights with Ryanair . We were hoping to get to see him play a few holes as it wouldn't be as crowded on a practice day. Maybe we'll follow Goosen instead.....:rolleyes:

copacetic

good points by Kenny Perry, this is going to kill attendances, viewer figures and ad revenue for the Us tour. Interesting he says pretty much what Goosen did but no big media deal over it. Foreign players definitely have to be ultra careful what they say about the US or US players.

Kenny Perry: "It's going to be tough for the sponsors, I think, and the Tour. Definitely, Tiger is our Tour, and when you lose your star player, it definitely hurts. There's no question about it. ... I feel bad now. I thought he was kind of — watching him, I thought it was more drama than actually being hurt. I was talking to people, and now I hear he's got a torn ACL and a stress fracture or something or whatever. For a man to endure all that, it's pretty incredible what he accomplished. We just hope he gets well and gets back out here. ... It's definitely an opportunity for us, for sure. Still, you want to beat the best. I think any of the competitors out here, you know, when you're playing, you want to have Tiger in the field, because if you beat a field with Tiger in it, you've beaten the best field out there probably, because most of the time all the other big stars are with him.''

kmart6

Well Woods kinda made a point that he owed it to the tour;

Tiger wrote:

"I wanted to be very respectful of the USGA and their incredibly hard work, and make sure the focus was on the US Open. Now, it is clear that the right thing to do is to listen to my doctors, follow through with this surgery, and focus my attention on rehabilitating my knee."

JerryHandbag

ant043 wrote: »

he is the greatest player to ever have played golf, of course its going to devalue the british open slightly.

Slightly yeah, but his record in the British is nowhere near the other majors.....hes won twice on St. Andrews (easy course for him with no wind blowing) and once on Hoylake (19 under i think it was? a cakewalk for him)....but hes struggled on the other much tougher Open courses, he shot an 81 at Muirfield!! I'm just making the point that it I dont believe it wouldve been the stroll to victory that a lot make it out to be

Trampas

Not good for the odds for people who like a punt on the outsiders. Odds will be in.

WHIP IT!

Lay of Goosen lads, I knew from the minute I read his quotes in the first place they had been taken out of context. He would never slate Woods like that, he has too much class to get caugth out like that.

Ironic, that he's being labelled "bland" yet when he tried to exhibit some form of sense of humour here, he gets panned.

rigal

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Lay of Goosen lads, I knew from the minute I read his quotes in the first place they had been taken out of context. He would never slate Woods like that, he has too much class to get caugth out like that.

Ironic, that he's being labelled "bland" yet when he tried to exhibit some form of sense of humour here, he gets panned.

For someone who has dealings with the media on a daily basis I think he should have had a bit more cop-on.

Mister Sifter

Does this mean that Ian Poulter is number one in the world now?

Trampas

Graeme1982 wrote: »

Does this mean that Ian Poulter is number one in the world now?

good point Graeme. I think he is

stockdam

Karlsson's caddy said he heard noises coming from Wood's knee during the US Open......let's hope it's not serious damage. No amount of money can rectify chronic damage.

Trampas

How does this relate to the Ryder Cup team selection.

Does Zinger get 5 picks now or does 9th place get in?

Golferx

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Slightly yeah, but his record in the British is nowhere near the other majors.....hes won twice on St. Andrews (easy course for him with no wind blowing) and once on Hoylake (19 under i think it was? a cakewalk for him)....but hes struggled on the other much tougher Open courses, he shot an 81 at Muirfield!! I'm just making the point that it I dont believe it wouldve been the stroll to victory that a lot make it out to be

He's won
3 British Opens
3 US Opens
4 PGA
and
4 Masters

so, how is his record "nowhere near" the other majors?


Of all the Majors, the British Open is the one most often played on a sheep-grazing field, where too much is left to chance, bad bounce, ridiculous rough, etc. The other three majors are played on courses that are much fairer to the players with much less left to chance. The British Open throws up some strange winners, Paul Lawrie, Ben Curtis, Todd Hamilton, Padraig Harrington, all players who won what turned out to be a lottery, given the set up of the courses.
Of all the Majors, the PGA actually has the strongest field, every year.

As for Tiger? I think he is great. Long may he play the way he does. It's up to the players behind him to catch up, not up to him to fall back to them.

copacetic

Golferx wrote: »

The British Open throws up some strange winners, Paul Lawrie, Ben Curtis, Todd Hamilton, Padraig Harrington, all players who won what turned out to be a lottery, given the set up of the courses.

How you can put Harrington in that group I will never know.

ziggy

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JMB88

Golferx wrote: »

He's won
3 British Opens
3 US Opens
4 PGA
and
4 Masters

so, how is his record "nowhere near" the other majors?


Of all the Majors, the British Open is the one most often played on a sheep-grazing field, where too much is left to chance, bad bounce, ridiculous rough, etc. The other three majors are played on courses that are much fairer to the players with much less left to chance. The British Open throws up some strange winners, Paul Lawrie, Ben Curtis, Todd Hamilton, Padraig Harrington, all players who won what turned out to be a lottery, given the set up of the courses.
Of all the Majors, the PGA actually has the strongest field, every year.

As for Tiger? I think he is great. Long may he play the way he does. It's up to the players behind him to catch up, not up to him to fall back to them.

Including Harrington in that list is rather stupid. With Woods out till probably the Masters next year ... if Mickelson was to pick up a major, a couple of tour wins and possibly a world golf championship ... he could quite possibly catch Tiger.

Golferx

copacetic wrote: »

How you can put Harrington in that group I will never know.

Harrington was a very very lucky boy. His extraordinary antics on the 72nd hole, followed by Garcia's capitulation, led to him being yet another lucky winner of the British Open. I think Harrington is a good golfer, but a grinder. He, if he wasn't Irish, would not be a player I'd cross the road to watch.

British Opens leave far too much to chance on a lucky bounce or an unlucky bounce.
Make a course difficult, by all means, but make it fair. US Opens have crossed this line far too often, too, over the years. This year's course was an extremely rough, but fair challenge for the best players in the world.

Par72

Golferx wrote: »

Harrington was a very very lucky boy. His extraordinary antics on the 72nd hole, followed by Garcia's capitulation, led to him being yet another lucky winner of the British Open. I think Harrington is a good golfer, but a grinder. He, if he wasn't Irish, would not be a player I'd cross the road to watch.

British Opens leave far too much to chance on a lucky bounce or an unlucky bounce.
Make a course difficult, by all means, but make it fair. US Opens have crossed this line far too often, too, over the years. This year's course was an extremely rough, but fair challenge for the best players in the world.

Agreed, there was a huge amount of luck involved in Padraig winning the Open last year but the same could be said of Tiger's win over the weekend. Winners generally need a bit of luck with them.

copacetic

Golferx wrote: »

Harrington was a very very lucky boy. His extraordinary antics on the 72nd hole, followed by Garcia's capitulation, led to him being yet another lucky winner of the British Open. I think Harrington is a good golfer, but a grinder. He, if he wasn't Irish, would not be a player I'd cross the road to watch.

British Opens leave far too much to chance on a lucky bounce or an unlucky bounce.
Make a course difficult, by all means, but make it fair. US Opens have crossed this line far too often, too, over the years. This year's course was an extremely rough, but fair challenge for the best players in the world.

Maybe, but you put him in a group that hardly won or contended in anything before or after their win. He just doesn't belong to the grouping..

JMB88

To be fair the other people you mentioned have pretty much never featured in a major bar the Opens they won. Harrington narrowly missed an Open playoff in 2002 aswell ... he's been there there abouts in the Masters a few times. Few top tens in Us Opens. It's crazy to compare Harrington to them guys.

Mister Sifter

Golferx wrote: »

Harrington was a very very lucky boy. His extraordinary antics on the 72nd hole, followed by Garcia's capitulation, led to him being yet another lucky winner of the British Open. I think Harrington is a good golfer, but a grinder. He, if he wasn't Irish, would not be a player I'd cross the road to watch.

I find Harrington an incredibly dull golfer. He's a decent player, but nothing more in my opinion. The Irish media talk about Harrington as though he is one of the games all time greats. I don't see it. He works extremely hard and he seems like an honest living kinda guy, but i don't get the fuss.

If he doesn't make the Ryder Cup team on merit then i can think of 3-4 players who i'd rather have in ahead of him too.

Adiaga 2

Like him or not, Harrington, along with Garcia, have been the leading Europeans in the world rankings and in top tens in the majors for the last 8 years at least. The Irish media do gush a bit much about him but they do that with every Irish sports person to have any impact on the world stage. The British golfing media have been a lot more guilty of that in terms of hyping up players like Luke Donald, Paul Casey, Justin Rose and even no.2 himself Ian Poulter. And what have they done of significance in the game??? Nothing.

Mister Sifter

Adiaga 2 wrote: »

Like him or not, Harrington, along with Garcia, have been the leading Europeans in the world rankings and in top tens in the majors for the last 8 years at least. The Irish media do gush a bit much about him but they do that with every Irish sports person to have any impact on the world stage. The British golfing media have been a lot more guilty of that in terms of hyping up players like Luke Donald, Paul Casey, Justin Rose and even no.2 himself Ian Poulter. And what have they done of significance in the game??? Nothing.

There's a difference between British media and English media. Whenever i hear the Scottish and Irish media talk about their up and comers, it is all about hope. In England it seems to be more expectation. Your right though, none of the English players you mention have justified the hype made about them. Casey and Poulter don't exactly shy away from adding to it either.

HITMANHEALY

Tiger will not be out for the season now as first reports said yesterday

The surgeon who carried out the operation expects woods to be back sooner than expected

"Once he has had his operation, I would expect him to be out of action for three months."

copacetic

HITMANHEALY wrote: »

Tiger will not be out for the season now as first reports said yesterday

The surgeon who carried out the operation expects woods to be back sooner than expected

"Once he has had his operation, I would expect him to be out of action for three months."

3 months is the rest of the season

kmart6

copacetic wrote: »

3 months is the rest of the season

Well the PGA tour finish's on the 9th of November...and last year Woods finished up a month or two early!

f22

I wonder will the surgeon leave a Nike shaped scar after the operation.

MisterAnarchy

ant043 wrote: »

he is the greatest player to ever have played golf

That is a very very debatable issue.;)

JerryHandbag

Golferx wrote: »

He's won
3 British Opens
3 US Opens
4 PGA
and
4 Masters

so, how is his record "nowhere near" the other majors?

My point is that apart from the 3 Opens he won (2000-05-06), he was rarely in contention to win one, unlike the american majors where he always seems to be in contention, runner up in both last 2 Masters etc etc....

I would not call the magnificent links of St. Andrews or Carnousite "a sheep grazing field".....links golf requires equal amounts of skill and imagination, playing bump and runs shots etc, that is totally alien to the American target golf where you just rely on your yardage chart and little else.

MisterAnarchy

Was doing a bit of reading tonight and I came across Jack Nicklaus's Major record.
Frankly its astounding.
Summary of major championship performances

Starts - 163
Wins - 18
2nd place finishes - 19
Top 3 finishes - 46
Top 5 finishes - 57
Top 10 finishes - 73