Programming Groups

Done and dusted

Hey Guys,

I was thinking about setting up a programming group for people who would like to share and work on idea's with other programmers.

The main idea behind this group would be that programmers across all different fields (Java, .NET, linux etc) and different skill levels could come together and come up with projects to work on between them and hopefully learn new skills.

The group would be open to beginers and the more advanced programmers.

I dont know if anything like this already is out there but I thought if not I could be a good idea.

Of course this group meet regularly (in a pub)

Well let me know what you all think etc.

Ta,
D & D

Webmonkey

I think this was mentioned before but I would be interested if a group actually formed.

Done and dusted

Cool, Well I'm totally ready to push for this group to be formed. I really want to see it through because i think the benifits could be very good for all involved!

Atomic Pineapple

I'd also be interested, just finished an ordinary degree in software development and would love to get some experience in this way

Done and dusted

Awsome....looks like where putting the band back together

I'd like to hear from some of the first year college students too. Cause I know when I was in college I would have loved something like this. Not to get someone else to do my homework but rather to have exposure to other technologies and ppls methods.

remember the point of this group is to get ppl of all levels of skills! so no1 would ever be turned away

Atomic Pineapple

Done and dusted wrote: »

Awsome....looks like where putting the band back together

I'd like to hear from some of the first year college students too. Cause I know when I was in college I would have loved something like this. Not to get someone else to do my homework but rather to have exposure to other technologies and ppls methods

great idea i'll mention it in my dkit forum for anyone looking to do software development and anyne i know currently doing it

Done and dusted

Cool thanks!

This could be good.....could be good!

Evil Phil

Are you talking about setting up a group through www.social.ie? I've been thinking about it but don't have the time to run such a group. I'd gladly join one though.

Done and dusted

Evil Phil wrote: »

Are you talking about setting up a group through www.social.ie? I've been thinking about it but don't have the time to run such a group. I'd gladly join one though.

well I hadnt planned on doing it through social.ie but I'm open to it. I was thinking along the lines of having our own site and forums.

With regards to the time running the group I would accept full resonsibility for this or in an even better situation have a group of us who would run the whole thing. I like the idea of having the group run by the group as a whole.

I personally would be willing to pay for hosting etc for a website, altho if ppl wanted to contribute that would be good too

Malice

I would also be interested in this.

MIN2511

malice_ wrote: »

I would also be interested in this.

I would be very interested as well

Done and dusted

Excellent,

Well I guess we should start moving this to the next level.

Do you think it would be a good idea to have a small group of organizers / mods for the group? If so volenteers are most welcome

So on another note. Geographically where are ppl situated? Dublin etc

Evil Phil

I'm in Dublin for the next 12 months anyway. Can't help out running it though I'm afraid.

Done and dusted

No worries,

I was thinking of even a get together with some of the heads that would be interested and toss around some ideas (get drunk too )

I think the next step would be getting a site together etc. I can look after the hosting at the end of the month when pay day comes along. Any ideas of site / group names etc

Malice

Done and dusted wrote: »

Geographically where are ppl situated?

I'm in Galway, hopefully that doesn't preclude me from joining .

kayos

Stick my name in the pot

Done and dusted

malice_ wrote: »

I'm in Galway, hopefully that doesn't preclude me from joining .

Oh your from Galway.....oh well... god no it doesnt matter at all.

Webmonkey

I'm in Kerry Weekends, Shannon during weeks and from September onwards will be in cork during week.

Done and dusted

Looks like theres a fair bit of interest in this idea

So in terms of a site name how about irishcoders.ie?

I was thinking of hosting this with hosting365, I've used them in the past and it all seems to be good. What do others think about 365 any others you could recommend?

Kevo

I'm in. I have been looking for a group like this. I'm just finishing 3rd year in computer science and I really want to get some more project experience.

StickyMcGinty

just finished my software engineering degree in DCU, count me in anyway

Malice

Done and dusted wrote: »

Oh your from Galway.....oh well... god no it doesnt matter at all.

Watch out or myself and kayos will start our own Galway-based group .

MIN2511

malice_ wrote: »

Watch out or myself and kayos will start our own Galway-based group .

Dublin for me:D

I would say online group and then we can meet up in our respective regions/counties once a month or second month e.t.c.

Skud

just finished ucc comp sci degree, would be interested in this also...

Atomic Pineapple

I'm from meath!! woo!!

the online aspect is a great idea!!

Done and dusted

malice_ wrote: »

Watch out or myself and kayos will start our own Galway-based group .

Ok I'll be quite

To the rest of the posts:

Sorry for not replying until now! Welcome aboard guys.

Once I sort out the hosting etc we can get this thing full underway

On that note anyone good with websites / forums? I was just going to use some templates but if anyone would like to manage the site that would be extra cool!

cronos

Im in! Just finished a higher level degree in comp systems? PM any required info.

marco_polo

Count me in on the group

greyed

Done and dusted wrote: »

I'd like to hear from some of the first year college students too. Cause I know when I was in college I would have loved something like this. Not to get someone else to do my homework but rather to have exposure to other technologies and ppls methods.

remember the point of this group is to get ppl of all levels of skills! so no1 would ever be turned away

This sounds like a good idea. Finished 1st year computer science in may and I'd like to get some more practical experience in, and like you said, exposure to other methods, etc. I dual-boot with linux, but im useless with the command-line, so learning some linux would be good.

And as long as its free

gerryR

Done and dusted wrote: »

On that note anyone good with websites / forums? I was just going to use some templates but if anyone would like to manage the site that would be extra cool!

I'd be interested in joining the group, just getting into codeing so I'll be the wone with all the noob questions

On your point above, I reckon you'd be better off using a template to get the thing up and running fast. If someone wanted to manage the site later on they could always do that.

gerryR

Malice

Done and dusted wrote: »

On that note anyone good with websites / forums? I was just going to use some templates but if anyone would like to manage the site that would be extra cool!

I have setup forums in the past so if you are setting one up I can definitely assist.

I've also developed websites but I prefer to focus on development aspects as I am far from a designer . Templates are useful to get things off the ground quickly but watch out if you're trying to make changes down the line as they often use table-based layouts that are a royal pain in the arse to alter.

Webmonkey

Id rather have no site than have a template one - no offence.

It doesn't paint a very good picture for the group. If I had time id put up something but I'm quite busy at the moment

stevenmu

The combination of coding and alcohol intrigues me, count me in too.

Can probably help out regarding the website too if needed, but like malice_ I'm not much of a designer

MIN2511

stevenmu wrote: »

I'm not much of a designer

Can't we brainstorm this and do it in a group? I know the chances of all of us under one roof is near impossible but if there are more than 3 in a region who can meet up and do it.

All we want(speaking for myself) is a working website that would describe us.
Or can we get a sub forum from boards dedicated to this?

rmacm

I'd be interested in this too, I'm a year out of a Computer Systems degree in UL and working in a telecoms company. Most of my day to day work doesn't involve programming but I do a bit in my spare time.

Kevo

I'm willing to work on this on weekends. Let me know if you want me to do anything.

stevenmu

MIN2511 wrote: »

Can't we brainstorm this and do it in a group? I know the chances of all of us under one roof is near impossible but if there are more than 3 in a region who can meet up and do it.

All we want(speaking for myself) is a working website that would describe us.
Or can we get a sub forum from boards dedicated to this?

I'd been thinking a sub-forum/social.ie group would be good too, but thinking about it more I think there's potential there for a good site too, forums of course, articles if people were in writing them, maybe some tools for people working on small projects together, I'm sure some prizes could be dug up for competitions etc. Maybe I'm thinking too much though, not sure what Done and Dusted has in mind.

Webmonkey

Well if its a place where people want to submit articles or something I can donate a old site I done a few years back, don't know where the customer dissapeared to though!

http://killarneyonline.eu/fightterror/

MIN2511

Webmonkey wrote: »

Well if its a place where people want to submit articles or something I can donate a old site I done a few years back, don't know where the customer dissapeared to though!

http://killarneyonline.eu/fightterror/

Just checked it out, fair play to you;)

We can tweak it and improve it

stevenmu; nah you are not think too much about it, we all are!:D


Am not much of a programmer myself, actually teaching myself J2ME(small project going on) my use ye as lab monkeys(please & thanks)
But it's all about learning and developing and having fun!

Webmonkey

I don't feel it suits what kind of site we should have though but it better than nothing I suppose

We should also list all our skills and compile it together to see what we can actually accomplish.

marco_polo

Is a cheap virtual server hosting an option? That we could setup some open source forum software and any databases / webservers we need?

Or is that way too much like work?


Something like this for example.

http://www.jforum.net/

Malice

marco_polo wrote: »

Something like this for example.

http://www.jforum.net/

That looks interesting. Pity I know very little Java so Tomcat, Resin and JBoss are meaningless to me .

Master-Geek

Logic seems to have left this conversation?

Open source forums, are deemed to hack intrusions. We all know just how many SQL injections are easily done through them.

Jelsoft vbulletin would be the best option. There is a massive modding community for them also. And is far more powerful in terms of user ability. And it would save endless hours having to develop add ons that are widely available at vbulletin.org
A lot of them, very secure. But most are contributed by script kids.

From a person who runs and co-owns a forum board/chat site, I would recommend vbulletin as the chat discussion software. To set up your own lite forum software would take many months of development.
And it is quite easy to develop and set up a CMS portal template as the root access for the discussion based website. The admin could utilize the CMS portal to display certain aspects of the discussion website, as well as other nice features that would be useful.
I'm currently doing one for online shoutcast broadcasting DJ's

Using pre-made templates are a no go, most of them are not XHTML strict, and it would take some time to professionally re-do the CSS to a do-able level. In terms of cross browser compatibility.

I do freelancing web design and development, with a basic use of photoshop.
If I can be of any help, put me on the team.

lunar pages would be the best option for virtual/dedicated servers.
But you should consider the option, do you actually need shell access to the server? And do you have the security and administration to maintain it.

Done and dusted

Thanks to all who have posted over the last while. My appologies I havent been back to this thread in a while (been mad busy at work)

I shall be back after lunch to post more (just wanted to let ppl know this was not dead )

dzy

Did anyone ever attend the PHP user group meeting? I did once. A bunch of pedantic nerds sitting around supping on Guinness and discussing whether to use camel case or underscores. Most depressing hour of my life.

If you do manage to get it together, steer clear of their model.

kayos

dzy wrote: »

A bunch of pedantic nerds sitting around supping on Guinness and discussing whether to use camel case or underscores.

Sounds like a fun evening to me .

Webmonkey

dzy wrote: »

Did anyone ever attend the PHP user group meeting? I did once. A bunch of pedantic nerds sitting around supping on Guinness and discussing whether to use camel case or underscores. Most depressing hour of my life.

If you do manage to get it together, steer clear of their model.

That made me and a few guys from Intel laugh

Malice

dzy wrote: »

Did anyone ever attend the PHP user group meeting? I did once. A bunch of pedantic nerds sitting around supping on Guinness and discussing whether to use camel case or underscores. Most depressing hour of my life.

If you do manage to get it together, steer clear of their model.

I don't drink Guinness and I'm not a big fan of PHP so that definitely passed me by . Having said that, did they manage to get anything done?

dzy

malice_ wrote: »

Having said that, did they manage to get anything done?

Not that I could see. It was just a d*cK measuring contest. One guy said to me that he had been coding in PHP since before it was called PHP. He was Ireland's longest serving PHP coder. He seemed quite proud of that.

adm

on forums.
vbulletin is the best , no doubt.
The only issue is it costs money.
phpbb is the probably the biggest open source one but is prone to security problems.
simplemachines.org have a good one too. Not sure of their security history.

I'm a php guy and would be happy to help out if needed.

stevenmu

Who would have thought a group of programmers could turn this into such an in-depth discussion on what forum software to use :pac:

The real issue is what language should software be based on, .Net/PHP/Java, and of course if the server should be windows or linux :pac:

Being serious, I don't think a huge deal needs to be made out of what software things run on. Initially at least. phpBB is fine software, as is vBulletin (which isn't expensive), alternately I've tried out a few of the common CMS systems (joomla, drupal, dotnetnuke) in the past, any of them would do a great job, and iirc they all have forum plugins available.

Similarly cheap shared hosting should be fine aswell (and I have an account I'm not really using that I'd be willing to donate). I think virtual/dedicated servers might be overkill?