Chartered and "European" Engineers

djfattony2000

Anybody on here either one of these?

Is it just a case of do your degree, get 2-4 years experience and then you become one?

Also what does it do for your career prospects, if anything?

Cheers

judas101

a couple of years experience from a recognised company and youll get your charter.

i thinks there's a small fee you have to pay.

it's greatly improves your career prospects.

its highly, highly recommended you get chartered.

Darren1o1

In the US alot of engineers are shunning the title "Chartered" or it US equivalant "Professional". This is due the the liablity being on the engineer in question more so than the company when being involved in a project. Such engineers are expected to have liability insurance. But then again some companies require this title for project leaders! I'm sure it is not the case in Europe but definitely something to debate on getting in the U.S.

Have a looksee here: http://www.engineersireland.ie/uploads/common/files/Ceng.pdf

godtabh

You have to do a report and interview to be considered for a chartered engineer.

You don't just do a couple of years and pay a fee.

chris85

kearnsr wrote: »

You have to do a report and interview to be considered for a chartered engineer.

You don't just do a couple of years and pay a fee.

correct as well as doing continuous professional development (CPD)

djfattony2000

Ok so this CDP, is that things such as getting extra certs in relation to your field?

Like if you were a computer eng, doing cisco/microsoft certs?

It would be things like going on courses, lectures, events etc.

djfattony2000

Right fair enough,

Do any of you lads/lassies have the title?

I've just under a year's experience after college so no.

godtabh

I'm going to do it this year. I've jsut printed off the application form

djfattony2000

Are ye members of the IEI or whatever they're called now?

I was a student member after my degree but have not signed up since, was thinking about joining again.

godtabh

I'm a member of the IEI and its imporant to have if you want to get charted. You are mant to show a history of particapation in IEI events and need IEI membership to submit an application

ScabbyLeg

Thanks kearnsr, that's good info.
I'm also just a year out of college but would eventually hope to complete the C.Eng. I moved to Germany after graduation however, so "participation in IEI events" isn't something I can claim to have done!

A chartered engineer's title isn't something that's widely recognised over here though, so I don't know that it would be of real professional benefit if I were to stay in Germany. I don't know if they have an 'equivalent' .

godtabh

ScabbyLeg wrote: »

Thanks kearnsr, that's good info.
I'm also just a year out of college but would eventually hope to complete the C.Eng. I moved to Germany after graduation however, so "participation in IEI events" isn't something I can claim to have done!

A chartered engineer's title isn't something that's widely recognised over here though, so I don't know that it would be of real professional benefit if I were to stay in Germany. I don't know if they have an 'equivalent' .

You can still get it in Germany. Again you have to keep track of all your cpd and keep a log of that.

I havent been to many IEI events which is probably gona be a pain in the arse to get sorted but i dont think its the deciding factor.

Gurgle

djfattony2000 wrote: »

Is it just a case of do your degree, get 2-4 years experience and then you become one?

Also what does it do for your career prospects, if anything?

'Chartered' engineer isn't a qualification or anything like that, its just paying to get your name put on a list.

There might be some point if you're a civil engineer, maybe even electrical if you're involved in the construction industry but I can't see a reason to bother for any other dicipline.

godtabh

Gurgle wrote: »

'Chartered' engineer isn't a qualification or anything like that, its just paying to get your name put on a list.

It is a qualification and its not just paying to get your name put on a list

Gurgle wrote: »

There might be some point if you're a civil engineer

Its a very important qualification if you want to progress as a civil and/or structural engineer.

fishdog

Funny I seem to have upset some “alarm engineers” (on the electrical forum) by telling them that they are not engineers, they are alarm installers. They argue that the job they applied for was titled "alarm engineer".

There is no official qualification required to install intruder alarms in Ireland. I am a qualified electrician myself and I have installed many alarm systems after completing the one day course! Many alarm installers have no recognised electrical qualifications whatsoever, yet insist that they are engineers!

MayoForSam

I'm a mechanical engineer with a Ph.D. and became a chartered engineer about 2 years ago when I was trying to go for an academic position, I saw it as been a useful addition to my CV at the time.

Since then, I have gone back into R&D in industry and to be quite honest, I don't see the point of having chartered status - only required if you're going into consultancy in civil or structual engineering as far as I can see.

In fact, I fail to see what the IEI does for people like myself in industry - membership mainly seems to entail numerous golf outings and the odd lecture on Brunel or bridges over the River Blackwater. Half thinking of cancelling my €300 annual sub in fact, better things to be spending it on.

godtabh

MayoForSam wrote: »

I'm a mechanical engineer with a Ph.D. and became a chartered engineer about 2 years ago when I was trying to go for an academic position, I saw it as been a useful addition to my CV at the time.

Since then, I have gone back into R&D in industry and to be quite honest, I don't see the point of having chartered status - only required if you're going into consultancy in civil or structual engineering as far as I can see.

In fact, I fail to see what the IEI does for people like myself in industry - membership mainly seems to entail numerous golf outings and the odd lecture on Brunel or bridges over the River Blackwater. Half thinking of cancelling my €300 annual sub in fact, better things to be spending it on.

I think alot of my lectures were chartered engineers.

I think regardless of what type of civil/structural engineer you are its needed.

All the companies I've worked for (and there has been a few) pay for at least one membership to a profesional body

A Dub in Glasgo

I am a Chartered Engineer and achieved the qualification about 4 years ago. It took me 10 years after graduation to get the qualification.

godtabh

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

I am a Chartered Engineer and achieved the qualification about 4 years ago. It took me 10 years after graduation to get the qualification.

What field are you in?

It doesnt normally take 10 years to get it so was it a matter of choice to wait 10 years?

I'll be doing mine this year with about 4.5 years experience