Paul Galvin

Zzippy

Well well well! At least it wasn't a Dublin player this time...
What do people think - will he be charged or will Paddy Russell chicken out of reporting him? He still only gave him the second yellow yesterday, it could be left at that...

will1977

He should get a month for that. Great example to be setting as a captain !

kevmy

I didn't see what he got booked for either time so I can't say whether he deserved to get sent off or not but I saw the incident regarding the ref on the news.
Now as far as I would see it that would be regarded as a different/seperate incident than the sending off. He slapped the refs book/hand and then went over accosted the linesman and had to be clipped around the ear by Tomás o Sé before he went off.
If lets say a player who objected to a booking or a sending off of one of his team mates ran up to the ref and did what Galvin did I would reckon he'd see the line as well and since the CCCC seem to be cracking down this year (rightly) with the Dublin/Meath thing and the recent 'sending off' of a Derry player in mid week after the game I'd say Galvin's in trouble.
He could end up with a ban after this and rightly so in my opinion. He would have been deserving of a red if he hadn't been already sent off, why should he get away with it because he was already gone.

Two other points: we must protect refs (I'd say Blackbelt will agree with that one) or they'll end up putting them in boots again.
Galvin as captain should sent a good example and not be the fecking idiot of the bunch.

johnp

Don't suppose there's a Youtube of this?

mumhaabu

Paul Galvin is no angel but this time his reputation preceded him. Himself and the Clare fella went to the ground togheter which was more of a fall by the two of them as they were marking each other very tight. He called the linesman's attention to the fact and the linesman was to blame and neither Paul Galvin or the unfortunate clare guy deserved a card.

The standard of refereeing and linesmaning at the match yesterday in Killarney was the worst I have ever seen. Paddy Russell should never again be left inside the gate of a gaa pitch. He redcarded a Clare back for absolutely nothing, disallowed a Kerry goal instead of playing advantage, resulting in a Kerry free kick and a pojnt, the there was a load of pulling and dragging all over the field and he made a right and utter shambles of the whole game.

Paul Galvin lost it and hit down on the refs book, as himself and the Clare defender were highly wronged.... give a dog a bad name

Tomthepost

will1977 wrote: »

He should get a month for that. Great example to be setting as a captain !

Worst then Mattie Forde stepping on a guys head

cruiserweight

Tomthepost wrote: »

Worst then Mattie Forde stepping on a guys head

What has that got to do with Paul Galvin????

FlutterinBantam

Look, Galvin has form,and a lot of it.

Angry gedger in my book, and rides the line in most matches.

deserves no sympathy as far as I am concerned.

Those are the facts, and we can dress them up, poke them around, massage them around, twirl them up, water them down,parse and analyse them till the jerseys come home,you still get the same conclusion... Galvin is an angry little fcuker on the football field and needs to learn to play within the rules... no if /buts/and/maybes.

Right!!

Killme00

I was reading in the Times that it is a mandatory three months suspension so thats him out for the entire championship

hunter164

Well he's from Kerry and not Dublin so he will probably get away with a slap on the wrist and a quiet word.

kevmy

hunter164 wrote: »

Well he's from Kerry and not Dublin so he will probably get away with a slap on the wrist and a quiet word.

Don't give me that poor Dublin sh1te. A Derry player got banned during the week a couple of weeks back, now he deserved it fair enough, but very little was made of it. However if it was Dublin then I'm sure it would have made the papers.

Dublin players got banned for breaking the rules of the game. Get over it.

Galvin broke them as well and should get banned too.

Johnp: there is footage on RTÉ http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/

hunter164

Here I've no problem with Dublin players getting banned or whatever.But its the way the media go on about it.
Also did you see the Sunday Game last night? Pat Spillane backing Galvin.

FlutterinBantam

That's the problem with the GAA, the so called "hard men" won't take their medicine.

This isn't even worthy of debate, galvin should be gone for the Summer, no if or buts... gone finito.

That might soften his cough and a few others of his ilk.

Zzippy

mumhaabu wrote: »

Paul Galvin is no angel but this time his reputation preceded him. Himself and the Clare fella went to the ground togheter which was more of a fall by the two of them as they were marking each other very tight. He called the linesman's attention to the fact and the linesman was to blame and neither Paul Galvin or the unfortunate clare guy deserved a card.

The standard of refereeing and linesmaning at the match yesterday in Killarney was the worst I have ever seen. Paddy Russell should never again be left inside the gate of a gaa pitch. He redcarded a Clare back for absolutely nothing, disallowed a Kerry goal instead of playing advantage, resulting in a Kerry free kick and a pojnt, the there was a load of pulling and dragging all over the field and he made a right and utter shambles of the whole game.

Paul Galvin lost it and hit down on the refs book, as himself and the Clare defender were highly wronged.... give a dog a bad name

I suppose the referee deserved it eh? :rolleyes:

kevmy wrote: »

Don't give me that poor Dublin sh1te. A Derry player got banned during the week a couple of weeks back, now he deserved it fair enough, but very little was made of it. However if it was Dublin then I'm sure it would have made the papers.

I think I read about Fergal Doherty's appeal quite extensively in the press over the last couple of weeks

hunter164 wrote: »

Here I've no problem with Dublin players getting banned or whatever.But its the way the media go on about it.
Also did you see the Sunday Game last night? Pat Spillane backing Galvin.

I'd expect nothing better from him. If it was a Cork player on the other hand...

Tomthepost

cruiserweight wrote: »

What has that got to do with Paul Galvin????

Nothing to be honest a private joke!
I will admit being from Kerry and possibly having a biased view on this but I think one month would actually be a fair suspension. 3 months would be a disgrace. In fairness he did not strike the referee.

Keano

If they law says 3 months for such an offence then he should get it.

Will he? Not a hope of it. A month and a don't do that again ok Paul.

john concannon

He deserves anymore thing over a month suspension because there is nothing more childish then going after the referee's notebook.

kerry4sam

hunter164 wrote: »

Well he's from Kerry and not Dublin so he will probably get away with a slap on the wrist and a quiet word.

He will get a ban, of that have no doubt. It's just a matter of how long.

Keano A Legend wrote: »

If they law says 3 months for such an offence then he should get it.

Will he? Not a hope of it. A month and a don't do that again ok Paul.

He will get a ban as i said ... I personally don't see him back on the starting line-up for Kerry until the All-Ireland quarter-final at the earliest. Mark my words on that.

john concannon wrote: »

He deserves anymore thing over a month suspension because there is nothing more childish then going after the referee's notebook.

There is nothing more childish than saying that. He didn't go after the referees notebook. He was being booked for something that wasn't his fault and it was in the heat of the moment that he flipped the notebook out of the ref's hand

hunter164

It doesn't matter if he was being booked for something that wasn't his fault,he shouldn't have knocked the book out of the refs hand.Very childish and then worse pushing hs won teammate away.Now that's 1 thing you don't do.

kerry4sam

hunter164 wrote: »

It doesn't matter if he was being booked for something that wasn't his fault,he shouldn't have knocked the book out of the refs hand.Very childish and then worse pushing hs won teammate away.Now that's 1 thing you don't do.

I don't condone his actions in any way but he was wronged and the linesman aparently didn't see half of what the attendees saw and therefore didn't report the actions from the Claremen to the ref (and that would get anyone annoyed and angry when going on for so long and they not being repremanded for their actions)

and being honest I was frustrated at the way he turned on his team-mates in anger like he did ... That was what got me annoyed the most as their is only one way that's going to lead (and it's not leading your team to success that's for sure).

nacho libre

He has to be punished (a month would suffice) for his reaction no matter the incompetence of the referee. His reaction could be fairly construed as intimidation of an official and there is no place for that... Also, his behaviour in pushing his own teamate is a bad example to the children he teaches and to children watching him play.

Pride Fighter

One month ban seems logical, three months is a bit harsh.

Nalced_irl

To be honest, i think 1 month would be a let off. Its not like he lightly slapped the book out of his hand, he aggressively hit it to the ground and then went over to scream at the linesman. Taking into account that he is captain (which i know doesnt matter as far as punishments go) and should be setting an example, one month would be too little for me. 3 months may be a bit harsh but i wouldnt see it as unfair, possibly a down the middle 2 months ban.

hunter, lets not push threads to the 1 V 31 area again this year. Far too much of it last year, sometime warranted and sometimes not but it gets boring and annoying very quickly.

kerry4sam, i didnt actually see the offense he got the yellow for but in a situation like this i dont think it matters. As you say, his reaction to O Se (i think) was not exactly what you want to see in your captain. To be honest with actions like that, i could understand people suggesting he is stripped of the captaincy.

shiibata

Also think he should be getting more than a month, should have got slammed more as well on sunday game for what he done.. if the booking was an injustice or not, he still struck the notebook out of refs hand, slammed the linesman big time, argy bargy with his own player.. a month ban would be very lenient to me.
Paddy Russell games always seem to attract attention and red cards.

kerry4sam

Nalced_irl wrote: »

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kerry4sam, i didnt actually see the offense he got the yellow for but in a situation like this i dont think it matters. As you say, his reaction to O Se (i think) was not exactly what you want to see in your captain. To be honest with actions like that, i could understand people suggesting he is stripped of the captaincy.

Yeah it was Tomas O'Se who tried to calm him down and who Paul turned on before heading for the line ...

There is no way he will be stripped of his captain band ... Not one chance i can assure you.

He is known to be over-passionate at times and is a born leader and a trojan workhorse for the Kerry team. He had only ever been sent off in one other Championship match and he is highly respected and neither the team-players or management will accept him loosing his captaincy band and i can asure everyone that it won't happen.

He will hand it over to ANother player while he serves his ban but he will retain it once the ban is over, thankfully

DDC1990

I'd love to defend Paul on this but i cant. He was wrong, but 3 months for a fustrated response to being unfairly sent off (IMO). Paddy Russell and his officials were rediculous...us Kerry fans in the terrace went from blind anger at his decisions to unstoppable laughter as time after time he'd leave a Clare fellah away with late tackles, pulling and dragging as well as the constant holding of our forwards... only to see clare get free after free for a hand on the sholder or even legitimate tackles.
Galvin got his first yellow card on his first foul... A pull on a jersey in an unthreatening position. His man got away with several fouls before being given a yellow for dragging Galvin to the ground near the sideline. Galvin protested at being dragged but as a Clare man had been sent off a few moments earlier for an elbow ( didn't see the incident yself...just saw the man on the ground) the ref decided to "even the score by sending Galvin off. In all fairness Galvin is not a man that you should piss off by sending him off for no reason. Paddy Russell should never ref again. Im all for giving the weaker counties advantages but this was a scandle. 1 month ban should teach Paul a lesson in keeping his cool, but the standard of refereeing should be reviewed as i think it played a huge part in the incident (i.e:Fustration)

EDIT: Just read RTE's analysis (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2008/0615/kerry_clare.html).
Very obvious they were'nt at the match, with quotes like this: "Galvin's antics, after he had initially fouled John Hayes" Im sorry but when did he foul John Hayes in that incident. Anyone else that was at the match care to enlighten me on this?

BENDYBINN

galvin by his actions has now intimadated all refs.What ref will now send him off

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aleaf from sir alexs book I think

Blackjack

Conor Mortimer had an 8 week suspension for verbally abusing a match official during a game between DCU and NUIG in 2006. Anything less for Galvin would be a disgrace.

If the rule book says 3 months, then 3 months it should be.

Tomthepost

Blackjack wrote: »

Conor Mortimer had an 8 week suspension for verbally abusing a match official during a game between DCU and NUIG in 2006. Anything less for Galvin would be a disgrace.

If the rule book says 3 months, then 3 months it should be.

Poor Conor! So he must have missed a league game or two!
It is high time that the punishments are changed in the GAA to number of games instead of length of time.
I think missing a Munster final against Cork is a bigger punishment then 8 weeks in the off-season.

Blackjack

Tomthepost wrote: »

Poor Conor! So he must have missed a league game or two!
It is high time that the punishments are changed in the GAA to number of games instead of length of time.
I think missing a Munster final against Cork is a bigger punishment then 8 weeks in the off-season.

Mortimer was rightly suspended for the relevant length of time.

Do you think that just because Kerry may have a few more championship games coming up that he should receive a leaner punishment, or is it just perhaps should they just change the rules now the Kerry Captain is facing one?.

Just wondering what you think would be reasonable, given the length of time is applicable to both Club and County.

john concannon

Totally agree Blackjack.
I doubt that justice will be served though.Imagine also that Galvin is a teacher too.

He made an apology and I think he knows well what he did wrong.He still doesn't think he was 100% of the blame which I guess is a bit right.He should have walked off and just show some respect.It was only against Clare too,no offense Banner boys.;)

Sponge Bob

I'm afraid it has to be 3 months what with children watching the flute on telly and all. It was very histrionic , very unprofessional , and he is captain.

That said that ref is a disgrace and should be dropped from the all ireland series for utter incompetence . He's not even fit to ref an ulster match :cool:

Zzippy

Hmm, no sign of Nicky Brennan on the news this evening condemning his behaviour, guess they won't be throwing the book at him so!
His "apology" on RTE was a sham, pure PR...

kerry4sam

Sponge Bob wrote: »

...That said that ref is a disgrace and should be dropped from the all ireland series for utter incompetence . He's not even fit to ref an ulster match :cool:

I wouldn't stop at the referee though ... If all the linesmen had done their jobs i honestly doubt the 'incident' would have even happened

kerry4sam

Zzippy wrote: »

...His "apology" on RTE was a sham, pure PR...

What do you expect the man to do ? ... With the status he holds both on and off the pitch he had to issue a public apology and that's exactly what he done.

If he had just gave an interview to a newspaper it wouldn't reach the numbers of people that need/ feel the need for an apology from him.

He knows he done wrong and he has apologised for his actions. Not many players would go on RTE and issue a public apology after doing wrong in the heat of a Championship match

Sponge Bob

Not many Team Captains with a great chance to be there in september faced a 3 month ban in mid June simply because they are complete plonkers .

None that I can recall anyway .

Why could he not do the honourable GAA thing and quietly call Paddy a dopey old **** between gritted teeth , and then walk off quietly .

Apologising on TV is only a sign of panic. He knows he's getting the full 3 months now to keep the next lot of notebook slappers quiet.

kerry4sam

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Not many Team Captains with a great chance to be there in september faced a 3 month ban in mid June simply because they are complete plonkers .
...

care to explain and/or elaborate this statement (mainly your character description) to me

Sponge Bob

kerry4sam wrote: »

care to explain and/or elaborate this statement (mainly your character description) to me

Paul Galvin is a plonker . Only a plonker would handbag a ref in front of TV cameras.

kerry4sam

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Paul Galvin is a plonker . Only a plonker would handbag a ref in front of TV cameras.

Were you even at the match and managed to see the events unfold live? The coverage by the media doesn't in any way, shape or form show the full-extent of what actually happened nor the actual lead-up to what is repeatedly shown in the news ...

He got caught up in the heat of a Championship match and yeah he shouldn't have knocked the book from the ref, but then again he shouldn't even have been in the position of getting that 2nd yellow card to do that

and insulting the man like that in no way changes what happened nor does it contribute in any pro-active discussion of the events that unfolded

grenache

I hear the media talking about a 3 month ban for Galvin, this would be very harsh in my opinion. He was being fouled and provacated all game, i can see why he lost his temper, and while he was totally out of line to knock Russell's notebook out of his hand, i feel a one month ban would fit the crime. He did not strike the ref, there was no real menace in what he did.

Sponge Bob

kerry4sam wrote: »

The coverage by the media doesn't in any way, shape or form show the full-extent of what actually happened nor the actual lead-up to what is repeatedly shown in the news ...

LOL So he didn't handbag the ref and knock his notebook out of his hand . It was a puff of wind that did it

and insulting the man like that in no way changes what happened nor does it contribute in any pro-active discussion of the events that unfolded

Anyone who feels his conduct is defensible must stand accused of driving officials out of the sport because they are not being defended from abuse. It is very difficult nowadays to get a full set of officials for a lot of GAA matches because of the likes of Paul Galvin .

And as for combative players , Kerry had Séamus Moynihan out there for years fighting for every single ball ...and winning more often than not , and Séamus never said boo to a ref .

Nor did Séamus ever whinge to the nation on the national news about anything .

Paul Galvin the silly little whinging plonker that slapped the refs notebook, roared at the linesman, seemed to attack Tomás Ó Sé and finally whinged on the RTE news today is not fit to shine Séamus Moynihans boots .

If he shows his weaselly little face on the national news again I will expect a 6 months ban for interference with an official combined with outrageous plonkerdom after the fact .

And it further strikes me that Paul arranged his own appearance on RTE and that Kerry football had nothing at all to do with it, not Kerrys style.

I would be most disappointed to hear that any Kerry official had anything to do with arranging that whingefest today, in fact I refuse to believe it.

Bye bye Paul and good riddance .

jank

Sponge Bob wrote: »

LOL So he didn't handbag the ref and knock his notebook out of his hand . It was a puff of wind that did it

Anyone who feels his conduct is defensible must stand accused of driving officials out of the sport because they are not being defended from abuse. It is very difficult nowadays to get a full set of officials for a lot of GAA matches because of the likes of Paul Galvin .

And as for combative players , Kerry had Séamus Moynihan out there for years fighting for every single ball ...and winning more often than not , and Séamus never said boo to a ref .

Nor did Séamus ever whinge to the nation on the national news about anything .

Paul Galvin the silly little whinging plonker that slapped the refs notebook, roared at the linesman, seemed to attack Tomás Ó Sé and finally whinged on the RTE news today is not fit to shine Séamus Moynihans boots .

If he shows his weaselly little face on the national news again I will expect a 6 months ban for interference with an official combined with outrageous plonkerdom after the fact .

And it further strikes me that Paul arranged his own appearance on RTE and that Kerry football had nothing at all to do with it, not Kerrys style.

I would be most disappointed to hear that any Kerry official had anything to do with arranging that whingefest today, in fact I refuse to believe it.

Bye bye Paul and good riddance .

I dont like Paul Galvin at all, but posts like this make the poster seem like a little child! Good on ya!

Tomthepost

Sponge Bob wrote: »

LOL So he didn't handbag the ref and knock his notebook out of his hand . It was a puff of wind that did it

Anyone who feels his conduct is defensible must stand accused of driving officials out of the sport because they are not being defended from abuse. It is very difficult nowadays to get a full set of officials for a lot of GAA matches because of the likes of Paul Galvin .

And as for combative players , Kerry had Séamus Moynihan out there for years fighting for every single ball ...and winning more often than not , and Séamus never said boo to a ref .

Nor did Séamus ever whinge to the nation on the national news about anything .

Paul Galvin the silly little whinging plonker that slapped the refs notebook, roared at the linesman, seemed to attack Tomás Ó Sé and finally whinged on the RTE news today is not fit to shine Séamus Moynihans boots .

If he shows his weaselly little face on the national news again I will expect a 6 months ban for interference with an official combined with outrageous plonkerdom after the fact .

And it further strikes me that Paul arranged his own appearance on RTE and that Kerry football had nothing at all to do with it, not Kerrys style.

I would be most disappointed to hear that any Kerry official had anything to do with arranging that whingefest today, in fact I refuse to believe it.

Bye bye Paul and good riddance .

Would you ever get over yourself.
The guy done wrong fine nobody disagrees with this but there is no need to get personal about Galvin.
Second sending off in 28 championship games hardly a complete and other tug.
You also made a very disrespectful remark about Ulster football earlier. Ulster is the only province to have produced good football so far this year and without it the championship would be very dead.
IMO you must be close to a ban with the remarks you have made.

FlutterinBantam

You can be banned here for telling the truth??

For saying things as they are,for facing up to reality and not whinging and trying to bend rules/appeal/counter appeal/threaten??


Surely some mistake:eek:

Tomthepost

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

You can be banned here for telling the truth??

For saying things as they are,for facing up to reality and not whinging and trying to bend rules/appeal/counter appeal/threaten??


Surely some mistake:eek:

There is some sticky thread with rules apparently. I got told off by someone here one day for jokingly mentioning 'XUKE football' in the same sentence as 'Ulster' when all I was doing was commenting on how good a game of open football the Cavan V Antrim game was.
Some sensitive souls im afraid. Try to give a compliament and.....

Beached

What Paul Galvin did was stupid, and I have yet to hear anyone say otherwise. It definitly deserves a 3 month ban, and im sure he will take the 3 month ban and get on with it. At least he apologised for it, i wouldnt call that whinging!!!
The person who will suffer most will be Paul Galvin. Should Kerry move on and get to an all Ireland final, that will mean that other wing forwards stood up and were counted, ( Sean and Darren O' Sull, Tommy Walsh, David Moran, Donnacha Walsh, and Declan O' sullivans's injury is not meant to be as bad as originally feared, according to hoganstand). Pat O' Shea will not start a player who played no part all year. Galvin looked very rusty last sunday also. So I dont think we will see him in competitive action till next februrary regardless.

One question though, does whatever suspension he gets involve all GAA action or just Senior Intercounty games???

kevmy

Apparently 'interfering with the referee' carries a 12 week ban. If this is what Paddy Russell reports then I don't think Galvin can really complain. The rule was changed a few years ago previously any interference with the ref carried 24-weeks. Now it is only more serious things like punching, kicking out or slapping a ref which get the 24 weeker.
Interfering is for pushing, pulling, tugging the refs jersey that sort of thing. I would say this is what Galvins offence falls into.
If he is only reported for verbally abusing the ref or officals he will get 8 weeks.

Under the rules of the GAA he will at least get 8 weeks. I would say he'll get 12 weeks (deservedly) but he could more (which imo would be harsh).

When your banned you're out for all GAA games not just intercounty

seandugg

[quote=Beached;56273328. At least he apologised for it, i wouldnt call that whinging!!!
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Slapping the notebook out of the refs hand? A 12 year old girl wouldn't go whinging like that!

Jip

kerry4sam wrote: »

With the status he holds both on and off the pitch ....

What status ? I'm guessing that applies to Kerry only as in other counties he's known to be a very cynical player who always engages in plenty of cheap shots, the majority of other Kerry players I hold in a higher view than him.

Beached

seandugg wrote: »

Slapping the notebook out of the refs hand? A 12 year old girl wouldn't go whinging like that!

I thought the whinging accusations were in reference to his TV appearence.

FlutterinBantam

Jip wrote: »

What status ? I'm guessing that applies to Kerry only as in other counties he's known to be a very cynical player who always engages in plenty of cheap shots, the majority of other Kerry players I hold in a higher view than him.

Spot on Jip..cheap shots and off the ball stuff, thats his forte sure enough.

Chickens are coming home to roost.