No? So now what?

ART6

Oh no, not another Lisbon thread:mad:

Not really. If the vote is indeed no, then what is likely to happen?
I suspect:

Ireland will be threatened with doom and disaster by the might of the EU establishment, who will then decide democratically that we should be ignored.

In the UK the Labour government is in meltdown and the Fat Scotsman, having first said there would be a UK referendum, then decided there would not be. He will be forced to hold one and the UK, where the majority of the population would, apparently, prefer not to be in the EU at all, will overwhelmingly vote NO.

Then we shall see. Will the EU establishment want to take on the UK? They aren't little, silly, ignorant Ireland. Squeese them too much and they might just decide that enough is enough and quit the EU, at which point the whole shambles will fall into the bin that it should have been put into in the first place, returning to the Common Market that many of us thought we were joining in the first place.

Dave!

Look out for falling skies

rugbug86

According to RTE news it looks like the EU may ratify it anyway.

KnifeWRENCH

We will simply be thrown out of Europe. Meh, it was nice while it lasted!

CHD

square_igloo wrote: »

We will simply be thrown out of Europe. Meh, it was nice while it lasted!

hope so.then we can be our own continent!

We would qualify for every tournament in football in qualifying!

Harpy

chdpoker wrote: »

hope so.then we can be our own continent!

We would qualify for every tournament in football in qualifying!

you're a genius.. we could also have our own competition for our own continent and win it every time wahey!!!

Agamemnon

The No vote means the French will now use us for nuclear testing. Because the CIA-backed Libertas were on the winning side, Bush is already drawing up invasion liberation plans with a crayon on the Oval Office walls.

biko

We could/should have a "World series" in hurling and win every year.

Mike Funnelly

Thank God we voted no, so those Euro Nazis in Brussels can't screw us over any more than they can already, who the feck gives France and Germany the right to Chastise US the People of Ireland for making up our own minds, why the hell don't they give their people a vote to see if they should ratify it. Hopefully some of the other countries in Europe who weren't sure about it, will have the balls to say NO aswell, to show the French and Germans that they will not get their thousand year Reich.

Call Me Jimmy

Nazis? That's a bit rich coming from the guy with the most racist sig I think I've ever seen.

briantwin

Famine, economy crashes because all our friends in Europe wont hang around with us anymore.
All the eye candy we acquired from eastern europe will head home. We'll end up having our pints served to us by swamp donkeys called Siobhan and Niamh from skibareen and Ballina. No more graceful sexy polish chicks swishing through the clubs,just gelatinous messes poured into O'Neills tracksuit bottoms and their county colours. The birth rate will plummet, erections will be at an all time low. The price of booze will sky rocket as demand triples ,otherwise no one would be having any sex.

The government will fall apart and Brian Cowen will go back to assaulting bar stools all over Offaly talkin about "the way things should have been!"
Mary Harney will release an aerobics video........which will sell 4 copies.

Enda Kenny will take on the role of the Leprechaun , in the new sequel in the series : The Leprechaun in a Lisbon Treaty Free State.

Declan Ganley will become emperor of Ireland and we'll be enveloped into the U.S . Libertas will become the new name for the policing service of the nation with powers becoming that of the gestapo.

We'll burn all the history books and pretend like nothing happened prior to 2008 - It'll be called the before time.

And this is me being optimistic!

Sherifu

Ireland will get to vote until it gets it right.

Godwin's law by #9, crikey.

'Ol Jack Chance

hang on let me get this straight...we're voting on something now??

Thomas_S_Hunterson

We can all just chillax and have a nice cup of tea.

Things will proceed as before. The EU will still be a bureaucratic mess (which it would have been even if there was a yes vote). We'll still be able to have a good bitch about it.

Trebles all round, I say.

Ghost Train

Back to being Irish again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc_bptzA_t0

the_syco

WE LOOSE THE F**KING COMMISHINR ANYHOO's AND WE KEEP OUR TAX THE WAY IT IS, REGARDLESS...

And no-one has a plan B. They talk of using plan B, but no-one actually has one. So when they finish their party, they'll expect FF to make plan B, cos the winners are useless twats.

humanji

In an ironic twist:

Our corporate tax will be increased
We'll be forced to give all our money to an EU defence force
Everyone between the age of 3 and 80 will be conscripted and forced to fight in a war against Norway
Everyone under 3 will be aborted
The EU will become a superstate and all references to Ireland and to Irish nationality will be removed
They'll turk er jerbs

and if we're really lucky Mary-Lou McDonald will have her face ripped off by a halibut

Caoimhín

What no eh ART6?
May i suggest those who voted no go back to their council house, beat the wife as usual and then hang their heads in shame.

Dord

caoibhin wrote: »

What no eh ART6?
May i suggest those who voted no go back to their council house, beat the wife as usual and then hang their heads in shame.

That's a very general comment to make. :rolleyes:

briantwin

caoibhin wrote: »

What no eh ART6?
May i suggest those who voted no go back to their council house, beat the wife as usual and then hang their heads in shame.

ROFL :D

Call Me Jimmy

caoibhin wrote: »

What no eh ART6?
May i suggest those who voted no go back to their council house, beat the wife as usual and then hang their heads in shame.

Well said!

davyjose

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Well said!

How is it well said?

Edit: It's just sour grapes because you didn't get your way. Ironically it shows a lack of class on your own part.

Call Me Jimmy

because I have the freedom to think it's well said and you can't stop me.

Jimbo

rugbug86 wrote: »

According to RTE news it looks like the EU may ratify it anyway.

Won't that be great? We go to all the trouble of a referendum with the Irish people rejecting it and then they bloody ignore us. What a kick in the balls that would be

beautiation

I think Biffo has to put a tea cosy on his head at the next big EU thingy and sing nursery rhymes while the other leaders hit him with sticks.

Call Me Jimmy

Do you think they can ignore us? Do you really think that, that they will change our laws even though we've rejected it?

davyjose

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

because I have the freedom to think it's well said and you can't stop me.

Ok well I'm certainly not going to get into a discussion with someone who professes freedom to speech, yet is clearly critical of freedom to vote.

Call Me Jimmy

no davy I'm taking the piss, you think I'm serious?

davyjose

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

no davy I'm taking the piss, you think I'm serious?

Well... yeah I did.

Run_to_da_hills

One step backwards from Euro totalitarian control, the Euro ID card and eventually the RFID micro chip implant. Its not over yet, there is more than one ways of trying to skin a cat and it is now back to the drawing board for these Euro bullies and dictators.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

because I have the freedom to think it's well said and you can't stop me.

Checkmate...

Caoimhín

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

One step backwards from Euro totalitarian control, the Euro ID card and eventually the RFID micro chip implant. Its not over yet, there is more than one ways of trying to skin a cat and it is now back to the drawing board for these Euro bullies and dictators.

Yeah thats right. The evil ba*tards.

Now where did i leave my tin foil hat? The CIA/aliens/EU are trying to control my mind again.

davyjose

caoibhin wrote: »

Yeah thats right. The evil ba*tards.

Now where did i leave my tin foil hat? The CIA/aliens/EU are trying to control my mind again.

I didn't want to, but I lolled

KnifeWRENCH

beautiation wrote: »

I think Biffo has to put a tea cosy on his head at the next big EU thingy and sing nursery rhymes while the other leaders hit him with sticks.

What a fantastic mental image! I'm in favour of this idea!

MizzLolly

caoibhin wrote: »

What no eh ART6?
May i suggest those who voted no go back to their council house, beat the wife as usual and then hang their heads in shame.

*yawn


I'm happy with a NO vote!

CHD

I LIKE BIG LETTERS

KnifeWRENCH

chdpoker wrote: »

I LIKE BIG LETTERS

I don't

MizzLolly

chdpoker wrote: »

I LIKE BIG LETTERS

oddly amusing

square_igloo wrote: »

I don't

haha very good!

EamonnKeane

Ireland will become the Asterix's village of Europe

Davidius

Who wants to start a terrorist organisation to attack the EU in the name of freemandom and damikcrasee? :pac:

Caoimhín

Davidius wrote: »

Who wants to start a terrorist organisation to attack the EU in the name of freemandom and damikcrasee? :pac:

Damm you Davidius.....
Your part of the conspiricy arent you?

Probably a British/CIA/EU/National Lottery/CIE/ESB agent?

Caoimhín

Damm you to hell....

dade

rumour has it th head of the EU said that they continue to rattify it and ignore us. eh what about teh rule that said if one said no it failed. i guess they didn't really mean that

thelordofcheese

dade wrote: »

rumour has it th head of the EU said that they continue to rattify it and ignore us. eh what about teh rule that said if one said no it failed. i guess they didn't really mean that

They should ignore us and ratify(or not) the treaty based on the treaty itself and how they feel about what it actually offers. If we get to the end of '09 (i believe) and the treaty hasn't been ratified by everyone then it's dead

I mean that's plenty of time for the No campign to put forward it's grievences and suggest viable solu..... ohh wait. never mind.

Fratton Fred

dade wrote: »

rumour has it th head of the EU said that they continue to rattify it and ignore us. eh what about teh rule that said if one said no it failed. i guess they didn't really mean that

Follwed by Expulsion of Ireland, a trade embargo until Ireland coughs up the few billion it owes Brussels and we all go back to the 80's.

Great, can't wait.

Will the last one out please turn off the light, thanks.

ART6

thelordofcheese wrote: »

They should ignore us and ratify(or not) the treaty based on the treaty itself and how they feel about what it actually offers. If we get to the end of '09 (i believe) and the treaty hasn't been ratified by everyone then it's dead

I mean that's plenty of time for the No campign to put forward it's grievences and suggest viable solu..... ohh wait. never mind.

There is also time for a number of other countries to come under pressure from their electorates to hold referendums, and I suspect that one of the most likely is the UK, given the collapse of support for the Fat Scotsman's government. If that happens then there is little doubt that the UK will vote NO big time. It might also be that France and Holland will find themselves in the same position. Also, there are (I think) another nine countries yet to ratify the Treaty, so we might not be as alone as we think. Note that Charlie McCreevy has already started the rot by commenting that the Irish vote might well be a reflection of the growing disconnection between the people of Europe and the European Commission, and this seems to be gradually dawning on other senior commissioners. It has certainly been demonstrated to the political class that they continue to ignore the will of the people at their peril.

It seems to also be slowly dawning on the same people that the endless blizzard of regulation from the EU is not going to help Europe compete with the Chinese and Indians, and that the only way to deal with that is that the stifling bureaucracy of the EU needs to be reined in.

I can't help thinking that the Irish NO vote might yet be the best thing that happened to Europe, since it might just implant the idea that the bureaucrats are there to serve, not to rule.;)

Fratton Fred

ART6 wrote: »

I can't help thinking that the Irish NO vote might yet be the best thing that happened to Europe, since it might just implant the idea that the bureaucrats are there to serve, not to rule.;)

I hope so.

Maybe it will work for FF at the next government a well, although I doubt it.

Spook_ie

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Follwed by Expulsion of Ireland, a trade embargo until Ireland coughs up the few billion it owes Brussels and we all go back to the 80's.

Great, can't wait.

Will the last one out please turn off the light, thanks.

Why does everyone think that Ireland would have to give em billions back, sure that would be like people at a party the next day taking the unopened cans of Bud Lite home with 'em, oh wait, a lot of people do that anyway...

Seriously as long as we allow them to use the roads, bridges etc. without charge then they have nowt to complain about.

And anyhows we could set up our territorial claims to various fishing grounds and at least have fish to go with our chips...

thelordofcheese

ART6 wrote: »

There is also time for a number of other countries to come under pressure from their electorates to hold referendums, and I suspect that one of the most likely is the UK, given the collapse of support for the Fat Scotsman's government. If that happens then there is little doubt that the UK will vote NO big time. It might also be that France and Holland will find themselves in the same position.

The UK has already passed the first stage of ratification (the house of commons) the house of lords is next. there won't be a referendum there.
Neither in the Netherlands as it's halfway through. France have already ratified it.

ART6 wrote: »

Also, there are (I think) another nine countries yet to ratify the Treaty, so we might not be as alone as we think.

I really doubt that.

ART6 wrote: »

It seems to also be slowly dawning on the same people that the endless blizzard of regulation from the EU is not going to help Europe compete with the Chinese and Indians, and that the only way to deal with that is that the stifling bureaucracy of the EU needs to be reined in.

You mean like lisbon proposed to? I'll let someone else do the obligitory slow clap.

ART6 wrote: »

I can't help thinking that the Irish NO vote might yet be the best thing that happened to Europe, since it might just implant the idea that the bureaucrats are there to serve, not to rule.;)

your soundbite aside, I think it's a terrible thing. It shows that the issue at hand is rarely the actual issue people vote on.here at least .

davyjose

thelordofcheese wrote: »

The UK has already passed the first stage of ratification (the house of commons) the house of lords is next. there won't be a referendum there.
Neither in the Netherlands as it's halfway through. France have already ratified it.




I really doubt that.




You mean like lisbon proposed to? I'll let someone else do the obligitory slow clap.




your soundbite aside, I think it's a terrible thing. It shows that the issue at hand is rarely the actual issue people vote on.here at least .

This is exactly why I voted no. Lisbon was rejected, and the single country that vetoed it with a ... this bits important - DEMOCRATIC referendum are now being ignored. That kinda makes me realise I made the right choice.
This is a treaty put forth by europe's elite, and yet the people are being blamed for not accepting it.
And if you look around online, you'll see there are plenty of claps on the back for us, from the man on the street in other countries.

Call Me Jimmy

How do you mean ignored? The fact that ratification is continuing in other countries? How does that affect us? They still can't impose Lisbon on us. How is that ignoring us?