Brian Lenihan in the RDS.

jank

LOL, did anyone see Brian Lenihan in the RDS being shouted down by "No No, Nooo, No No, Nooo, No No, NO NO there's no Lisbon" (to the tune of No No, 2unlimited!)

He didnt look happy!
You have to see it in the News later.

It is going to be one for the historcial political archives for years to come.

Pal

The guy was heckled beyond reason.
You would think the no crowd could have behaved with a little dignity.

Hitman Actual

jank wrote: »

LOL, did anyone see Brian Lenihan in the RDS being shouted down by "No No, Nooo, No No, Nooo, No No, NO NO there's no Lisbon" (to the tune of No No, 2unlimited!)

He didnt look happy!
You have to see it in the News later.

It is going to be one for the historcial political archives for years to come.

That was Coir, and it wasn't just shouting, but a lot of jostling as well. Very mature. And it says a lot about you that you think it's such great craic.

Then their leader was on the radio, again saying that abortion would have been brought in with Lisbon, something that has been proven incorrect time and time again. It pains me to have to share an island with those nutjobs.

themont85

That pariticular group have done themselves no favours imo. It was on the radio and their leader brushed it of as a natural thing after a win and failed to apologise. Much like SF with Mc Dowell last year, it was a classless thing to do whether your for or against something or someone.

Rb

Sounds hilarious.

jank

lenny_leonard wrote: »

That was Coir, and it wasn't just shouting, but a lot of jostling as well. Very mature. And it says a lot about you that you think it's such great craic.

Then their leader was on the radio, again saying that abortion would have been brought in with Lisbon, something that has been proven incorrect time and time again. It pains me to have to share an island with those nutjobs.

What does it say about me?

One for the archives definately..lighten up:)

dc69

who was heckling him,where did you see it?and wll it be on te news?

snickerpuss

It's been shown on RTE a few times so I'd say it'll be re-shown during the day.
I'd be embarrassed to be associated with a 'political' group who act like 12 year olds. It was unbelievably childish.
And I could really care less which way the vote went.

Pal

RTE were trying to interview him in a busy RDS Hall.
No campaign supporters were shouting slogans, drowning him out and pushing him while he was answering the interviewer's questions.
You couldn't hear anything he was saying and he looked quite distressed by the shoving on all sides.

If you found it funny, I guess you only know why.

dc69

Pal wrote: »

If you found it funny, I guess you only know why.

I havent seen it yet but I imagine its the type of humour tht would appeal to me.I will make a judgement after I watch it.Speaks volumes about the people heckling him and pushing him,but sounds funny all the same.

dodgyme

rabble rousers - pure ejjits

Pal

dc69 wrote: »

I havent seen it yet but I imagine its the type of humour tht would appeal to me.I will make a judgement after I watch it.Speaks volumes about the people heckling him and pushing him,but sounds funny all the same.

enjoy

BCawley

Are ye so far up your own asses ye cant lighten up? I thought it was hilarious, hopefully some kind soul will put it up on youtube
Admittedly it was childish but it still made me laugh
+1 thread

minidazzler

Shin feign Supporters as usual. Not letting anyone else get a word in. Not exactly surprizing is it.

Ri na hEireann

In all honesty, it's definitive of the type of people who canvassed for a No vote....Apart form being contortionists and scaremongerors, they're ungracious in winning. Pack of children really.

Zzippy

Didn't see it but heard Lenihan interviewed on radio afterwards. I lol'd when he came out with the BS about them denying him his right to free speech, or something along those lines. :rolleyes:

dc69

Pal wrote: »

RTE were trying to interview him in a busy RDS Hall.
No campaign supporters were shouting slogans, drowning him out and pushing him while he was answering the interviewer's questions.
You couldn't hear anything he was saying and he looked quite distressed by the shoving on all sides.

If you found it funny, I guess you only know why.

Get out of it,I watched it there and there isnt a sign of pushing or shoving,he is surrounded by journalists.

Idiots anyway,how are people like that involved on any side.The dregs of society.

jank

So on one hand its Coir supporters making a fool of themselves or its the shinners being shinners. Which is it?:p

Ulyanov

I thought the treatment of Mr Lenihan today was nothing short of a disgrace and to be frank shows our nation in the true light. If you dont like whats been said just shout the man down. The No campagin got there result by ensuring half the voters didnt turn up around the country.

Pal

must look again

bookiebasher

the young lad who shoved a sign in lenihans face deserved a broken jaw imho

minidazzler

jank wrote: »

So on one hand its Coir supporters making a fool of themselves or its the shinners being shinners. Which is it?:p

Bit of Both I would think.

Zzippy

Ulyanov wrote: »

I thought the treatment of Mr Lenihan today was nothing short of a disgrace and to be frank shows our nation in the true light. If you dont like whats been said just shout the man down. The No campagin got there result by ensuring half the voters didnt turn up around the country.

Bitter much?

Your last sentence is laughable! What did they do, intimidate people into not voting? Excuse me while I ROFL...

nesf

Cóir have always been a group of children tbh.

Ri na hEireann

Zzippy wrote: »

Bitter much?

Your last sentence is laughable! What did they do, intimidate people into not voting? Excuse me while I ROFL...

Well in fairness they made such a confusion about a number of issues by lying through their teeth that discouraged people to vote.

themont85

BCawley wrote: »

Are ye so far up your own asses ye cant lighten up? I thought it was hilarious, hopefully some kind soul will put it up on youtube
Admittedly it was childish but it still made me laugh
+1 thread

Funny as it is, would you still have the attitude if it was FF, FG or any other mainstream partys. If it were them there would be people being more annoyed about it.

Jip

Ri na hEireann wrote: »

....Apart form being contortionists ......

:eek:

No far, I didn't see anyone putting their legs behind their heads inthe run up to the referendum, it would have got my vote !

guinnessdrinker

Coir were the guys behind the monkies posters.

Hitman Actual

jank wrote: »

What does it say about me?

One for the archives definately..lighten up:)

Meh, sorry mate. Sore head and sore over the result is all.

Sparks

'twas a bit daft, though not as bad as beating up TDs (which we were doing not all that long ago). If taunts and jibes are the worst we sink to in Irish politics today, that's a good thing... ...and I seem to recall far worse taunts and jibes being fired around the Dail in recent years!

darc

It is these uneducated sheep who do as sinnfein say without thinking for themselves that will suffer first and most.

The no vote will affect foreign direct investment into ireland becasue ireland's selling point is about being at the heart of europe, having easy access to european market, being one of the showcase economies of europe and having a young and EDUCATED workforce.

Lower amount of FDI = lower jobs = less spending = lower jobs = less spending again = recession.

First to be hit are the jobs at the lower end of the scale in the service & retail sectors. Mainly employing young peope and those witout the higher levels of education. The same sheep who believe the utter tripe given by sinnfein and other looney lefties and the mad far right.

As for me, I don't care because i am well enough off to weather any storm, no mortgage, decent savings and stable job. I just pity those leaving school this year, it back to the eighties we are.

Europe will ignore ireland from here on.

jank

Lower amount of FDI = lower jobs = less spending = lower jobs = less spending again = recession

We are in one anyway with or without lisbon

As for me, I don't care because i am well enough off to weather any storm

Cause daddy paid for it all LOl!:D

jank

and I seem to recall far worse taunts and jibes being fired around the Dail in recent years

You dont know what you are talking about, Stick to the Kebabs...:D

ruskin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha7MkcVQTL4

My new favourite song

gordon_gekko

darc wrote: »

It is these uneducated sheep who do as sinnfein say without thinking for themselves that will suffer first and most.

The no vote will affect foreign direct investment into ireland becasue ireland's selling point is about being at the heart of europe, having easy access to european market, being one of the showcase economies of europe and having a young and EDUCATED workforce.

Lower amount of FDI = lower jobs = less spending = lower jobs = less spending again = recession.

First to be hit are the jobs at the lower end of the scale in the service & retail sectors. Mainly employing young peope and those witout the higher levels of education. The same sheep who believe the utter tripe given by sinnfein and other looney lefties and the mad far right.

As for me, I don't care because i am well enough off to weather any storm, no mortgage, decent savings and stable job. I just pity those leaving school this year, it back to the eighties we are.

Europe will ignore ireland from here on.

sinn fein are the kind of party who along with the likes of the bnp do better in times of hardship , there is a lot of dissatisfaction among working class people now towards foreigners now that the economy is tightening , theese people are likely to drift towards sinn fein ,
it is in sinn feins interest for the country to become insular , to weaken our ties with europe and for the economy to suffer
remember , sinn fein only have one policy so the economy is pretty irrelevant to them

In/Casino/Out

jank wrote: »

We are in one anyway with or without lisbon



Cause daddy paid for it all LOl!:D

There are certain things that are going to make this recession BETTER and certain things that are going to make it WORSE. Good European relations I'd say would ease the recession.

"Cause daddy paid for it all LOl!"

He just told you he had a stable job. Grow up and make proper arguments.

topper75

minidazzler wrote: »

Shin feign Supporters as usual. Not letting anyone else get a word in. Not exactly surprizing is it.

LOL - ha ha ha ha

Buddy, look up something called Section 31 for me will you?

kerry4sam

Disgraceful ... what ever happened to Free Speech

ateam

Coir seem to think that they are exclusively responsible for the No vote victory.

Did anyone see the Coir woman on someone's shoulders?

ircoha

Just saw it on RTE1, the treatment of the returning officer by the No side, broadcast all over Europe, was a disgrace. It would make one wonder what sort of people they really are when they have no respect for an unelected official just doing his job.

For LT2, its all the Yes side need to show what really is at work here.

Sparks

Nothing happened to it Kerry, didn't you see people exercising that right as a group?

themont85

Ye they made a holy show of themselves across Europe. Whatever about cheering they completely ignored the guy when he just had to finish the sentance. They did it twice too at the Irish and English result. Whatever about some of the muppets we've running our country they're the kind we decided to listen to yesterday.

Sparks

It's hard to give that sort of statement any kind of weight when you see the same scenes at every general election, if not worse; not to mention the kind of heckling we see in Dail Eireann on a nearly daily basis.

dloob

Some spitting as well, Coir are so classy

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/13/ireland

"The bitter divisions caused by the treaty were visible at the count during ugly scenes involving Ireland's finance minister, Brian Lenihan, and members of Coir, a radical anti-abortion campaign group. Coir opposed the treaty on the grounds that European law could supplant Irish legal bans on abortion – a scenario the Irish government consistently said was impossible.

As the minister attempted to speak to a television news crew he was surrounded by Coir activists who screamed at him and sang: "No, no, there's no no, there's no Lisbon" to the tune of 2Unlimited's No limits.

When Burton attempted to intervene and point out that the minister had a right to speak she was spat at."

And this from the crowd who were complaining on Q&A about the Yes being ignorant and shouting down people.

PrivateEye

minidazzler wrote: »

Shin feign Supporters as usual. Not letting anyone else get a word in. Not exactly surprizing is it.

Can you not read no?

COIR?

as in the right wing christian group, not the left wing socialist-republican one.

I didn't see Mary Lou or ANY shinners there after the result.
I DO remember FG waving tricolours and going equally bananas after Nice II.


The yes side is a joke.

DeVore

To be fair I just watched the piece on RTE and while it was difficult for him to speak to his interviewer I think that RTE were a bit naive to try to interview him while on the floor just after the result was announced. I think its a touch of hubris to suggest that they were shouting him down. They were shouting, no doubt, but I dont see that they were specifically shouting him down.

As for pushing and shoving, ah here... I've had a lot worse in my local trying to get a pint!

DeV.

In/Casino/Out

PrivateEye wrote: »

Can you not read no?

COIR?

as in the right wing christian group, not the left wing socialist-republican one.

I didn't see Mary Lou or ANY shinners there after the result.
I DO remember FG waving tricolours and going equally bananas after Nice II.


The yes side is a joke.

What we are discussing here is not the merits of either argument but the treatment groups such as Coir gave to innocent officials. Celebration by waving tricolours is one thing, taking it out on Brian Lenihan is another. No one wants to see people being spat at with such mob mentality.

guinnessdrinker

ateam wrote: »

Coir seem to think that they are exclusively responsible for the No vote victory.

Did anyone see the Coir woman on someone's shoulders?

I seen that alright, they certainly went a bit overboard in their celebrations, I thought they would never stop cheering.

ateam

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

I seen that alright, they certainly went a bit overboard in their celebrations, I thought they would never stop cheering.

That woman cheering is the picture being used on the BBC and Sky News websites.

KnifeWRENCH

I agree with DeVore - it was extremely naive of RTE to try and interview Mr. Linehan in the RDS. Of course there was gonna be some people cheering - if the YES side had won, Linehan probably would have been surrounded by cheering YES supporters.

Besides, it wasn't as if Linehan didn't get his say, they interviewed him afterwards in a much more appropriate spot.

I do think the people chasing after him with signs are idiots though. There was no need for heckling.

Coir are a group of nutjobs anyway - I didn't vote NO because of the crap they were peddling, I voted NO despite them, basing my decision on factual, unbiased information.

I strongly reject Ri na hEireanns claim that Coir's behaviour was "definitive" of the NO campaign - I would certainly hate to have any affiliation with them, or to be mistaken as a Coir supporter.

heyjude

Ulyanov wrote: »

I thought the treatment of Mr Lenihan today was nothing short of a disgrace and to be frank shows our nation in the true light. If you dont like whats been said just shout the man down.

The reaction of the NO supporters was understandable, if a bit OTT. They had fought a campaign against FF, FG, Labour, the PDs, the Green Party Ministers, IBEC, most trade unions, the main farming bodies and most of the political and business establishment and they won. I can't imagine any group that had taken on this array of opponents and had won decisively, wouldn't be elated. As for the OTT bit, have a check next time there is a by-election and the underdog wins, the celebrations will also be a bit rowdy.

Ulyanov wrote: »

The No campagin got there result by ensuring half the voters didnt turn up around the country.

How did they ensure this ? :eek: How did they ENSURE that a million eligible voters didn't turn up to vote ? Were there road blocks, armed guards, mine fields and helicopter gunships in your area to ensure people didn't vote ?

Besides how do you know that all the people who didn't vote were YES voters, I recall many YES supporters on Boards advising people who were undecided not to vote at all.

I thought they reported that yesterdays' turnout was similar to that in the second Nice Treaty referendum and while it was low compared to a General election, it wasn't that low for a referendum. Remember that even in general elections about one third of the electorate don't bother voting.