Garda Blitz on "L" Drivers

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I agree Degsy. At least in the old days of doing the test you might have an excuse as the waiting lists were so long. But these days the waiting lists seem to be only about 8weeks, you should just keep re-sitting it until you pass.

pvt.joker

Degsy wrote: »

Are they pulling people on 2nd provisional licences yet?I think its disgracefull the way some people have been on the road for years without ever having sat,much less passed a test.

Too right. They're pulling people on ANY povisional, and rightly so.

Some people were quite happy to spend 10/20 years going from provisional to provisional, making a mockery of the law.

No excuses now. Pass your test or get off the road.

pvt.joker

jsb wrote: »

GF got a ticket this morning for pulling into a bus lane 3 feet from the end of it as part of the police clampdown :rolleyes:

Yes, I'm sure it was 3 feet:rolleyes:. Probably 100 feet if she's to be honest.

chuci

When i started driving 3 years ago i wasnt allowed in the car on my own unless my mam or dad was with me. i hated them for it because all my friends were allowed to go out by themselves but i can see their logic now. After a year of driving around with my parents i was allowed drive the car to work on the weekends because the roads were quite. I agree some people who are just learning should not be allowed out by themselves and should have someone with them all the time if it stops them making stupid mistakes. There major checks going on around where i live checking NCT's tax etc etc.

Canis Lupus

pvt.joker wrote: »

Pass your test or get off the road.

Totally.

I wasn't allowed drive a car till I passed the test and the only time I drove was with an instructor and after passing still had my folks accompany me till they were satisfied.

If you don't have a full licence then you shouldn't be driving on your own. It's quite simple and I can't see the point of anyone arguing against it.

gixerfixer

Garda crackdown:D Do people actually fall for this crap? Every other weekend there is a blitz,crackdown etc... on this that and the other whilst they put up the same amount of checkpoints as always.Comedians:rolleyes:

Theta

I wasn't allowed drive on my own for maybe the first ten months to a year, then I was allowed drive to work which was 10 minutes away on the weekends. I dunno I think even those ten minute drives did me good to be on my own. It stopped me from relying on someone else to be doing all of the double checks for me. I do agree though the whole system needs to be changed. They try to bring in new laws everyday but the simple fact of the matter is that if they just enforced the laws they currently have in place it would be fine, but they cant even do that!

And in all fairness the guards try to do there jobs but there working with management who are out of touch and are kind of under funded. I mean look at the UK where some of the cars in urban centers have equipment that will scann passing cars licence plates and warn of no tax and insurance and can check these details. There are no such systems here all someone has to say is its in the post and its all gravy!

Spud83

Degsy wrote: »

Are they pulling people on 2nd provisional licences yet?I think its disgracefull the way some people have been on the road for years without ever having sat,much less passed a test.

pvt.joker wrote: »

Too right. They're pulling people on ANY povisional, and rightly so.

Some people were quite happy to spend 10/20 years going from provisional to provisional, making a mockery of the law.

No excuses now. Pass your test or get off the road.

I dont think they are pulling people on second provisonals as technically its not against the law until July 1st.

_feedback_

I did drive on my own on my first provisional. I hadn't needed a car for years and then I got the opportunity of a new job, needed a car to get there and drove for six months before i passed my test.

That was before the panic last year when the Gov were giving a couple of weeks notice about the new L driver rules.

But there is no excuse this time round.. If you've been driving for a while and still on a provisional without even having a shot at the test, you shouldn't be driving unaccompanied.

lily2008

Rb wrote: »

I'm on my 2nd provisional and am a better driver than the majority of idiots I encounter on the roads]


Its this kind of thinking that generally scares me, how can you possibly decide that you are a better driver than anybody if you havent passed the test yourself???? Have you failed it or just not bothered applying, if so why not, you are now in danger of being pulled over and fined !

Duckjob

Many moons ago, whilst on 1st prov and waiting to do my test, I bought my first car. I got the 'oul fella to come out and drive it home for me, where it sat outside the house until I did my upcoming test and thankfully passed. I had previously failed, and picked up another application on my way out of the test centre to apply again immediately.

The Irish attitude towards licencing seems very back-to-front to me. IMO, until you have a pink licence in your hand, you should not consider yourself entitled to be behind a wheel for any other reason than receiving driving tuition, and this should be considered BEFORE you take a job somewhere, go to college somewhere, buy a house somewhere, and so on.

nhughes100

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

I dont think they are pulling people on second provisonals as technically its not against the law until July 1st.

It's always been against the law it's just the Gardai or insurance complanies never bothered to enforce it.

SheroN

nhughes100 wrote: »

It's always been against the law it's just the Gardai or insurance complanies never bothered to enforce it.

People on a second provisional licence are allowed to drive alone untill the 1st of July.

Theta

nhughes100 wrote: »

It's always been against the law it's just the Gardai or insurance complanies never bothered to enforce it.

For what them to drive on there own?? Its perfectly legal on your 2nd provisional to drive on your own until july 1st. Not on your third or any consecutive one though.

Spud83

nhughes100 wrote: »

It's always been against the law it's just the Gardai or insurance complanies never bothered to enforce it.

FAIL.

Keano

nhughes100 wrote: »

It's always been against the law it's just the Gardai or insurance complanies never bothered to enforce it.

I believe it was a condition of the licence not a law. Didn't some guy take this to court?

Steve

@ L-drivers who are saying:
"this is unacceptable"
"this is unfair"
"I should be allowed do what I like"
"there's no harm in it"
"shure its always been like this"

/facepalm.

Even as recent as 5 years ago it was socially acceptable to have a few pints after work and drive home, 10 years ago it was the norm.
Nowadays if you even mention the concept, you are scorned and ridiculed and branded a baby killing maniac.

When it was announced that drink driving measures were to be rigidly enforced, everyone said:

"this is unacceptable"
"this is unfair"
"I should be allowed do what I like"
"there's no harm in it"
"shure its always been like this"

Go back even farther to the seat belt laws, everyone said:

"this is unacceptable"
"this is unfair"
"I should be allowed do what I like"
"there's no harm in it"
"shure its always been like this"

To all you guys saying that now: "get over it - it's no longer acceptable".

The excuse that "I need to drive to work, I've no other way" is cowpoo - you should have thought of that before you took a job that you could only get to by illegaly driving.

FFS, it's not as if they announced this law yesterday - anyone who hasn't bothered their hole to go pass a test deserves to be put off the road.

Hats off to those of you who actually view their learners permit as a means to learn and who actually abide by the law.



/pulls collar to let steam out.

mikemac

+1 ^^^^^^^^^^

I posted something similar to the post above in Motors forum but stevec has put it much better then I did

The moaning and ranting we are hearing now is no different to what we heard when they cracked down on seatbelts and on drink driving in recent years.

In 5 years time, we’ll look back and laugh at the fact that you drive for many years and never pass a test and wonder how it was ever carried on

Rb wrote: »

I'm on my 2nd provisional and am a better driver than the majority of idiots I encounter on the roads, .

A better driver in your opinion, you haven't proved it. Most people think they are good drivers and most boyracers think they are skillful drivers.
Proving it is another matter

Boggles

SheroN wrote: »

People on a second provisional licence are allowed to drive alone untill the 1st of July.

Is this true? Any link to anything legal?

micmclo wrote: »

Most people think they are good drivers and most boyracers think they are skillful drivers.
Proving it is another matter

The few young fellas I know that would be considered boy racers, passed their tests with flying colours - These lads could do it blind folded, behaving yourself for half an hour while your being tested proves nothing to a certain group of individuals IMO.

Steve_o

token56 wrote: »

With regards the learner drivers thing. The thing that really pi**es me off is that the accompaning driver must have their full license for over 2 years. Now they are telling us that not all ful license holders are equal, this part of the law is ridiculous. In saying this I can't see them been very strict on this part. At least I hope not.

Really? I just got my full licence last month, and I was gonna be the "licenced driver" for my sister in her car while she waits for the test....oh dear, thats a ridiculous law. How are they gonna enforce this though, I heard that 1/6 of irish drivers are 'L' drivers.

_Kaiser_

Steve_o wrote: »

Really? I just got my full licence last month, and I was gonna be the "licenced driver" for my sister in her car while she waits for the test....oh dear, thats a ridiculous law. How are they gonna enforce this though, I heard that 1/6 of irish drivers are 'L' drivers.

It'll be enforced the same way the existing laws are. There'll be a big push in the first few weeks and then the budgets will run out and everything will be back to "normal" :rolleyes:

Steve_o

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

It'll be enforced the same way the existing laws are. There'll be a big push in the first few weeks and then the budgets will run out and everything will be back to "normal" :rolleyes:

Yea your probably right alright!! Its like an episode of the simpsons, its wacky for a while, and then everyting returns to normal....

kmart6

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

It'll be enforced the same way the existing laws are. There'll be a big push in the first few weeks and then the budgets will run out and everything will be back to "normal" :rolleyes:

How would budgets run out?! Gardai checkpoints are part of they're job,doesn't cost more to do a blitz!

Spud83

Yes there will be a big blitz at the start or at least thats what I hope. But the new laws coming in and the continued drop in wait times means it will prob spell the end of the gardai looking the other way if they do pull you or you do get stopped at a checkpoint.

keen

kmart6 wrote: »

How would budgets run out?! Gardai checkpoints are part of they're job,doesn't cost more to do a blitz!

You need more members to do a blitz, so I presume there's a fair bit of over time going which costs money.

TwoShedsJackson

It's hilarious hearing and seeing people say 'ah sure they won't enforce that bit of the law that applies to me anyway so I'm grand. Amn't I?? Please, reinforce my illegal behaviour and make me feel all better'.

snickerpuss

I find it funny that the gardaí make an announcement to tell us all that this week the law will actually be enforced. Could you imagine this in any other country? Isn't the law in force all the time?
Ah, Ireland.

Steve

snickerpuss wrote: »

I find it funny that the gardaí make an announcement to tell us all that this week the law will actually be enforced. Could you imagine this in any other country? Isn't the law in force all the time?
Ah, Ireland.

+1 to that.

And the governments answer:
"lets bring in new laws to rape the motorists, the existing ones don't seem to work"

curehead

i removed my L plates as to not be detected by gardai until my test
which i have in two weeks time
it worked there was a garda checkpoint and they waved on all cars without them and pulled over a girl behind me with one lol

justbringit89

does anyone know if The Learner Drivers Will be fined In this Crackdown For Unaccompanied Driving??? or is it just having the plates up, tax up 2 date etc.