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Will parliaments that have yet to pass Lisbon do so now?

  • 13-06-2008 11:55AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭


    If the predicted NO vote is correct will some the remaining states take the oppotunity to vote a guilt-free NO?

    Mike.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    They don't have to go ahead. After France and Holland voted "No" in 2005 most countries put their own vote on hold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭redspider


    Its not defined. If we reject the Treaty (life at the EU goes on of course), the EU can ask all remaining (8?) countries to continue with their own ratifcation process. This approach be used for example, if Ireland thinks it could get the treaty ratified with a Lisbon-II like vote, ie: with only constitutional changes on our side most likely containing additional assurances.

    It also depends on the other counties input, such as the UK. Maybe they will want a halt to it (ie: that they dont have to ratify yet, until Ireland would agree and accept a Lisbon-II).

    Its all up for discussion really, so picture late evening chats, phone calls, discussions in bars in Brussels, etc, between all and sundry.

    Redspider


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Surely they have to stop?

    Only one of three things I can see possible here (listed in no particular order)

    They drop lisbon completely and move on.

    They renogiate Lisbon II which would surely mean each country would have to ratify again as it was changed

    Or as you suggested everyone else rattifies (sp?) it and then it gets a cosmetic rewording and shoved back down out throats.

    I would be very skeptical of a lisbon II which all 28 countries didnt feel the need to ratify again as it would be the same treaty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Or as you suggested everyone else rattifies (sp?) it and then it gets a cosmetic rewording and shoved back down out throats.
    Not the treaty itself; the constitutional amendment. Which is all we were voting on after all. If they reword it to clarify that Lisbon cannot affect our neutrality or our direct taxation policy, it would probably blaze home.


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