Should suped up/boyracers cars be banned?

JP Liz

Should suped up/boyracers cars be banned?

Mena

No, we have enough of our freedoms already limited. Banning would be silly.

**edit**: Who would we have to laugh at then? All these little cars with a volume control for an accelerator are a good laugh :pac:

biko

No but it should be allowed to throw rocks at them.

MarkR

Banned from what? From the roads? Modified car owners, not specifically. Boy racers. Definitely. Also people who talk on handheld phones, drive in the wrong lanes, the ones who can't use roundabouts, those who can't indicate. Fat arsed people who ding other peoples cars. All banning offences. :pac:

Mena

MarkR wrote: »

Banned from what? From the roads? Modified car owners, not specifically. Boy racers. Definitely. Also people who talk on handheld phones, drive in the wrong lanes, the ones who can't use roundabouts, those who can't indicate. Fat arsed people who ding other peoples cars. All banning offences. :pac:

That's what? 90% of the population? I'd love that, no more traffic jams :pac::pac:

Vain

If it was banned do you think it would stop them. Just because drugs are illegal does it stop people using them no.. If there were more gardai on the road the penalty point system should get all the dangerous drivers off the road.

You cant say every one with alloys on there car should be banned its only a very few small boy racers that give us Modified car owners a bad name and its people like you hitting us all with the same stick. just because people drink doesn’t make us all alcoholic , you get me etc...

Rant over:D

MarkR

Mena wrote: »

That's what? 90% of the population? I'd love that, no more traffic jams :pac::pac:

I'd be hoping for all other drivers bar me tbh.

You might want to clarify what you mean and why you would want a ban on them, for example; power wise a BMW 6 series would have more BHP than a lot of so called suped up cars.

Caoimhín

hellboy99 wrote: »

You might want to clarify what you mean and why you would want a ban on them, for example; power wise a BMW 6 series would have more BHP than a lot of so called suped up cars.

My Gran's Nissan Micra has more power than some of those "souped up" cars.

WHITE_P

While their idea of style (typically loud and vulgar) leaves alot to be desired, I'd have no problem with their cars if they could drive them properly.

Freedom of choice is still a civil right in this country, so no, don't ban them yet, although maybe you could get lack of taste added to the road traffic act as an offence, say 4 points and a fine equal to the stupid amount of money they spent ruining their cars.

(Edit) I don't mind tastefully modified cars, but some of those body kits they put on, make the cars look like they melted. personally I'm more into stealth and fast cars that don't shout it from the roof's.

NiSmO

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Vain

NiSmO wrote: »

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Or even a gt starlet:D

L1011

NiSmO wrote: »

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How about a 1.6 Micra versus a 1.3 Starlet with a bad bodykit, massive soundsystem draining the power system, weighty exhaust mods, and Glanza stickers? As I've seen a few of those around

caoibhin

caoibhin wrote: »

My Gran's Nissan Micra has more power than some of those "souped up" cars.

With or without your gran behind the wheel

peasant

Added two more options to the poll ...a simple yes or no doesn't really do the subject justice.

There is absolutely no harm in stickin a few plastic bits and go-faster stripes to your car, if you so wish.

There is a problem though with overly loud exhausts, wheels that don't fit the car, stickers that inhibit the view throught the windscreen, etc

Vain

peasant wrote: »

Added two more options to the poll ...a simple yes or no doesn't really do the subject justice.

There is absolutely no harm in stickin a few plastic bits and go-faster stripes to your car, if you so wish.

There is a problem though with overly loud exhausts, wheels that don't fit the car, stickers that inhibit the view throught the windscreen, etc

This mods shouldn’t be getting passed the nct so this hole thread is about the lack of enforcement of laws on the roads

Vain

Vain wrote: »

This mods shouldn’t be getting passed the nct so this hole thread is about the lack of enforcement of laws on the roads

You will find that a lot of modified cars go through the NCT with some of the mods off so you really can't blame the NCT.

Frank the Manc

OP: how do you specifically legislate for the banning on a Souped up/boyracers car?

anything with a turbo, an induction kit, a spoiler, non-factory stereio/ stickers/ interior, anything over a certain BHP, anything thats Jap & white?
or does it just have to go bbbbaaaaAAAARRRRRPPPP up the road?

perhaps you would like to give that discretion over to the guards so they can judge it on a car by car basis?

ZiabR

MarkR wrote: »

Banned from what? From the roads? Modified car owners, not specifically. Boy racers. Definitely. Also people who talk on handheld phones, drive in the wrong lanes, the ones who can't use roundabouts, those who can't indicate. Fat arsed people who ding other peoples cars. All banning offences. :pac:

Thank you

I am a modified car owner but i am 26 years of age and a mature driver that happens to love cars, its a passion. How dare someone tell me i can no longer drive my car.

Boy racers on the other hand are a different story.

2 Espressi

Speaks volumes for the OP's view on car modification, when suped (sic) up cars = boyracers. My car is modified. I changed the stereo to a model that accepts USB sticks. I've uprated brake pads and better tyres. Hardly makes me a menace to society, now does it?

faceman

im not into modded cars at all, in fact most make me laugh. So much effort to make a car look sporty, yet its stuck in dismal traffic on the m50!!

However the OP is really trying to stereotype all mod car drivers as a problem on the road.

Road traffic law enforcement should be enforced with all motorists in mind

Laurs_civic

no how is that fair, i could think of millions of other road users that should be banned if you look at proper stats it not modified car inthusists that causes crashes its lil boys/girls who cant drive or people who should not be aloud on the road.

I drive a modified car and i cant break the speed limit because i would wreck my car on irish roads.

Tipsy Mac

I'd be in favor of a creation of noise limits for the NCT, it gets irritating listening to muppets going around at night with tuned up hairdryers. I've nothing against anyone supping up their car once it's not bothering anyone else and they adhere to the law.

Tipsy Mac

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

I'd be in favor of a creation of noise limits for the NCT, it gets irritating listening to muppets going around at night with tuned up hairdryers. I've nothing against anyone supping up their car once it's not bothering anyone else and they adhere to the law.

That won't work either, just change exhaust system for the test.

It BeeMee

Laurs_civic wrote: »

I drive a modified car and i cant break the speed limit because i would wreck my car on irish roads.

The bits would fall off?

Having a modified car is no reason for banning someone.

Acting like a gob****e, however, should be grounds for dismissal.

Beta Ray Bill

hellboy99 wrote: »

That won't work either, just change exhaust system for the test.

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On that Note...

I mate of mine had a decat STI.

its a bolt on bolt off job literally takes 20 min to replace it with a CAT and before the NCT.

Passed no probs

and then he took it off later. and bolted on the DeCat pipe.

when I say it was loud with the DeCat its actually an understatement.
you wouldn't be able to hear the people talking in the back seats if you were sitting in the front!!!!

Its V.illegal and I don't condone it and there are racing CATs out there that only reduce the performance ever so slighty compared to having a DeCat.

cost €€€€'s though
and LBR/LGR's arent interested in that!

Frank the Manc

Tipsy Mac wrote: »

I'd be in favor of a creation of noise limits for the NCT, it gets irritating listening to muppets going around at night with tuned up hairdryers. I've nothing against anyone supping up their car once it's not bothering anyone else and they adhere to the law.

while i agree with you about muppets and the like what about STI's ect?
should they fail for a factory exhaust?

It BeeMee wrote: »

The bits would fall off?

Having a modified car is no reason for banning someone.

Acting like a gob****e, however, should be grounds for dismissal.

exactly, there is an intollerable amount of bad ignorant and reckless driving on our roads, you see it every day.

And its not just boy racers or modified drivers, its 50 y/o businesmen and women dangerously overtaking because they equate overtaking power in the Merc enginebay to overtaking skill behind the wheel,

farmers in their 91 nissan bluebirds, with balin twine holdin the boot closed, sauntering along at 30, oblivious to the 12 cars up their hole,

reps in their repmobiles not looking left as they exit petrol statiosn on busy main roads,

fresh auld ones in jeeps thrown half up on footpaths and accross 2 parking spaces,

lads in 106 vans tearing round backroads.

at the end of the day its the driver that dictates how good or bad the car is used, ban or punish the driver for their actions not the car they drive.

punishment shoud include mandatory driver education, id say re-education except there doesnt seem to be any there in the first place.

blackbox

caoibhin wrote: »

My Gran's Nissan Micra has more power than some of those "souped up" cars.

I'd ban your Gran!

j2dab

I dont think they should be banned but they should definiteley have a curfew, at night is when they come out and terrorize the streets.

Laurs_civic

It BeeMee wrote: »

The bits would fall off?

no nothing would fall off its all on proparely, it would just get damaged.

JimmyCrackCorn!

blackbox wrote: »

I'd ban your Gran!

My gran drives group B. Group_B gran FTW:D





Silly thread over and over again. Ban dyslexics,priests,nuns and builders with bald spots on there ass,:rolleyes:

Flyer1

What defines a " boy racer souped up car " exactly ?

alpina

Ridiculous notion to 'Ban' boy racers, it's merely an expression of youth for goodness sake, have seen so called 'boy racers' over the years & now see the sames guys, suit & tie in their BMW's & Lexus, alot go through this as they can not afford that car they want when starting out, ok you get a few muppets but Goodness there are many a muppet driving their RR/Pshe/Merc etc..:rolleyes:

mikemac

JP Liz wrote: »

Should suped up/boyracers cars be banned?

You were ranting about tractor drivers over in AH earlier this week.

Do you want anyone to use the road apart from you?

Slig

micmclo wrote: »

You were ranting about tractor drivers over in AH earlier this week.

Do you want anyone to use the road apart from you?

and I like their style!!!
Its common knowledge that everybody else on the road is a hazard

Slig

If you complain about boy racers you will inevitably get Modified car enthuasiests fighting back. One question though, whats the difference?

Gumbo

Slig wrote: »

If you complain about boy racers you will inevitably get Modified car enthuasiests fighting back. One question though, whats the difference?

if you start a thread like this you will inevitably get stupid replies.

car enthuasiests have respect for their cars and will generally have respect to other road users too, boy racers are the same as girl racers, old man racers, rep racers, old women racers, gran racers, white van man racers. ust a saying imo

no to the ban but yes to better enforcement of crappy and unsafe mods.

lightening

The worst of all cultures get noticed.

The memory of a modified car owner doing doughnuts illegally will stick in your mind more than the one who drove by quietly.

HOWEVER!

I live in an area that is plagued by modified car owners being a real menace. (there is a beach and a car park very near my house)

These are modified car owners, not boy racers, in very well kept Celica's, Suburu's, BMW's, Skyliners etc... acting like complete <SNIP> every weekend.

So my view of Modified car owners is somewhat tarnished when I see them to the following every week....

Doughnuts with their mates lying on the roof of the cars, Doughnuts, wheelspins, powerslides, reverse handbrake turns (or whatever Skarsky and Hutch did all the time), handbrake turns, doughnuts with passengers sitting out of the window waving like a retard, more doughnuts and more doughnuts, sometimes with some gimp standing at the nose of the car waving like another retard.

I never see any other road user but Modified car owners carry on like this.

Gumbo

lightening wrote: »

The worst of all cultures get noticed.

The memory of a modified car owner doing doughnuts illegally will stick in your mind more than the one who drove by quietly.

HOWEVER!

I live in an area that is plagued by modified car owners being a real menace. (there is a beach and a car park very near my house)

These are modified car owners, not boy racers, in very well kept Celica's, Suburu's, BMW's, Skyliners etc... acting like complete every weekend.

So my view of Modified car owners is somewhat tarnished when I see them to the following every week....

Doughnuts with their mates lying on the roof of the cars, Doughnuts, wheelspins, powerslides, reverse handbrake turns (or whatever Skarsky and Hutch did all the time), handbrake turns, doughnuts with passengers sitting out of the window waving like a retard, more doughnuts and more doughnuts, sometimes with some gimp standing at the nose of the car waving like another retard.

I never see any other road user but Modified car owners carry on like this.

some <SNIP> (mid 40's man) pulled straight out infront of me in a punto today on my bike, nearly killing me instantly. its drivers behaviour thats the problem, not just one group of people.

lightening

kceire wrote: »

some (mid 40's man) pulled straight out infront of me in a punto today on my bike, nearly killing me instantly. its drivers behaviour thats the problem, not just one group of people.

An Isolated incident.

Does this happen three or four times a week to you with seven different cars where the driver is making a choice to do the actions, where its not an accident?

Probably not. I see modified car owners acting like what I described all the time, every week, sometimes three times a week, sometimes up to seven cars at a time.

B00MSTICK

kceire wrote:

some (mid 40's man) pulled straight out infront of me in a punto today on my bike, nearly killing me instantly. its drivers behaviour thats the problem, not just one group of people.

Exactly, It's like saying should we ban all Arab looking people from Ireland because a few seem to be terrorists?

lightening wrote:

These are modified car owners, not boy racers, in very well kept Celica's, Suburu's, BMW's, Skyliners etc... acting like complete ... every weekend.

What is a boy racer? I reckon its an attitude and has nothing to do with the car. A boy racer could drive a stock standard Micra or Punto but still act like a ***hole, doing donuts on public roads, racing on DC's etc.

If the people around where you live act like this then it's THEM not the CAR. The car is a machine, it can't act, it's the drivers.

What is a modified car? One that has a loud exhaust? Bodykit? A car that is made (tried to be made!) look good?

Unfortunatlet people with the boy racer mentality are drawn to high performance vehicles aswell as ****boxes for want of a better word, they then try to make there ****box look more like a high performance one.

When they get the money they blow it on their cars and insurance, hence why they cruise all the time, if you spent years saving your money and thousands on insurance you'd want to make use of the car too!

Unfortunatley they find doing all the dangerous stuff you mentioned fun.

So should we ban boy racers, yes. Modified cars, no.

lightening

B00MSTICK wrote: »

What is a boy racer?

I don't really see where you are going with that Boomstick.

I am just telling you what I see. Powerful cars with modifications on them doing just what I described.

Call them boy racers, call them people who own modified cars... Its up to you. I see the regplates, I see them selling their cars online and they call themselves modified car owners.

Slig

How many of the joyriders menacing city streets are driving modified cars? generally they are stolen standard cars. Its the mentality that has to be banned. These scumbags arent gonna stop because its illegal. If excessively loud exhausts or sound systems start getting attention from the guards in the form of fines or penalty points it might encourage them to get a life.
Same with guards visiting the carparks used for meets. Enforcement of the existing laws is the key, people still speed because they know that the chances of getting caught are extremely slim, same with drink driving, talking on mobiles etc.

Gumbo

lightening wrote: »

An Isolated incident.

Does this happen three or four times a week to you with seven different cars where the driver is making a choice to do the actions, where its not an accident?

Probably not. I see modified car owners acting like what I described all the time, every week, sometimes three times a week, sometimes up to seven cars at a time.

YES it happens to me at least twice a day, once on the way to work and once on the way home. every single day people pull out in front of me, swap lanes with me there etc etc

so to answer your question, yes it does, withe more than seven didderent cars. its people driving behaviour that bothers me, not what kinda car they rae driving. its peoples driving ignorance and arogarance (sp) that bothers me. they have no time for other road users and would rather cut me up then be 4 secons later to work.

B00MSTICK

lightening wrote:

I don't really see where you are going with that Boomstick.

Look at the thread title. I asked it as a question, then gave what is, IMO, a boy racer. What is your definition? Is it a type of car that makes someone a boy racer? Or how said person acts in (any) car?

You said modified car owners, not boy racers distinctly in bold so I want to know what's the difference?

The loud exhausts is too much alright, no need for em, they just want their tiny 1/1.2 litres to sound more like a V6/V8

Gumbo

another crap boy racer thread....boring

lightening

B00MSTICK wrote: »

You said modified car owners, not boy racers distinctly in bold so I want to know what's the difference?

I don't know. These people call themselves modified car owners. I don't think they would like to be regarded as boy racers.

Personally I would have another word for them.

Slig

kceire wrote: »

another crap boy racer thread....boring

but you still felt the need to post 3 times:D.

dade

j2dab wrote: »

I dont think they should be banned but they should definiteley have a curfew, at night is when they come out and terrorize the streets.

so you ban people from driving at night. isn't that restrictive on their rights? what about people in non modified cars that have teh stereo load do they also face said restrictions?

to knowledge most of these exhaust systems are E marked making them street legal. so until that law changes then there is not much that can be done.

i myself deive a modified car with a modified exhaust, but I make a point of taking it easy on teh gas when in housing estates and not reving teh arse out of teh car to raise teh noise leves, same goes with teh stereo.

teh problem as others have said is the driver and not the car. for every 1 w@nker doing doughnuts or a Jturns there are more that love their cars, modify them and look after them AND obey teh laws.

on and if you're wondering i voted to enforse existing laws re noise and safety so if they act teh <SNIP> ban the individual

Steve

JP Liz wrote: »

Should suped up/boyracers cars be banned?

No but these threads should be banned in motors.

tdc

it would not be possible to ban boy racers because they have wheels/exhaust. what about the multi millionaire that wants to put a 10 grand exhaust on his ferrari?

i agree that seeing these boy racers in their "modified" micras/civics/starlets is annoying but even without the exhaust/wheels they would still be flying around, revving the engine, etc.

the only way i can see an end to boy racers is if the govt ban anyone under the age of 30 from buying starlets/civics, etc. :pac: