Neighbour HATES my cats!!!!

Sharpshooter

Hi all,
l need some help here myself.my neighbour keeps trying to poison our cats,and l am at a loss as to what to do.
l have tried to confront him and got nowhere.
Because there is no man in our house he seems to think the cats are fair game.They cant even sit on the dividing wall in the back garden because he throws hot water at them.
lt is making life very unpleasant for me and a nightmare for the cats who came from a stray cat 4 years ago,so they wont come into the house as they are only semi tame. All help gratefully appreciated.:(

Karoma

Do your cats happen to use his gardens as a toilet by any chance?

Canaboid

How many cats ?
In semi D suburbia more than two creates annoyance for even the most Cat tolerent neighbours (crapping, spraying, digging etc.)
In my previous house, neighbour had 6 - 8 cats which meant I couldn't use my own back garden. Which wasn't very fair.

Sharpshooter

Karoma wrote: »

Do your cats happen to use his gardens as a toilet by any chance?

No,when they were small and wandering everywhere they most probley used every garden,but l had no control over that as they were wild.
l keep soil regulary turned over now and they use that.:(

Sharpshooter

Canaboid wrote: »

How many cats ?
In semi D suburbia more than two creates annoyance for even the most Cat tolerent neighbours (crapping, spraying, digging etc.)
In my previous house, neighbour had 6 - 8 cats which meant I couldn't use my own back garden. Which wasn't very fair.

3 and all are spayed(made sure to get them done)by Cat protection.They seldom move out of the garden now but do like to sit on the wall.

Karoma

sharpshooterH wrote: »

No,when they were small and wandering everywhere they most probley used every garden,but l had no control over that as they were wild.
l keep soil regulary turned over now and they use that.:(

And only that?
What is your neighbours complaint?

Run_to_da_hills

There is a number of cat deterrents on the market maybe you could supply your neighbour with them, at least it would keep your cats from going into their garden. I would be pi**ed off if I had a bird table in my garden and my neighbors cats were constantly stalking it. http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.faunature.com.au/images/clip_image004.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.faunature.com.au/catwatch.html&h=392&w=263&sz=14&hl=en&start=19&um=1&tbnid=Dk6B9FJ4hBFY0M:&tbnh=123&tbnw=83&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcat%2Bdeterrents%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX

Sharpshooter

Karoma wrote: »

And only that?
What is your neighbours complaint?

He just HATES cats (so he informed me after l asked him to stop throwing Hot water at them ):mad:

Sharpshooter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is a number of cat deterrents on the market maybe you could supply your neighbour with them, at least it would keep your cats from going into their garden. I would be pi**ed off if I had a bird table in my garden and my neighbors cats were constantly stalking it. http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.faunature.com.au/images/clip_image004.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.faunature.com.au/catwatch.html&h=392&w=263&sz=14&hl=en&start=19&um=1&tbnid=Dk6B9FJ4hBFY0M:&tbnh=123&tbnw=83&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcat%2Bdeterrents%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX

Yep,tried that,bought him a spray called "Keep off" but
he refused it.:mad:

carwash_2006

Could you put some sort of a fence on top of the wall to stop them sitting there? It seems a little extreme and unfair of him to object to them just sitting on the wall, but your first priority has to be keeping them safe from getting harmed by him. If you do put something up there just make sure that it won't inhibit them getting back into your garden if they do leave.

s14driftking

u can get a wire u put all around your garden and a collar for the cats if put just inside your wall will stop the cats going sitting on his one might just do the trick for u
if he keeps it up call the site of animal cruetly and report him;)

Run_to_da_hills

carwash_2006 wrote: »

Could you put some sort of a fence on top of the wall to stop them sitting there? It seems a little extreme and unfair of him to object to them just sitting on the wall, but your first priority has to be keeping them safe from getting harmed by him. If you do put something up there just make sure that it won't inhibit them getting back into your garden if they do leave.

An old trick is to embed broken glass into cement on wall tops. This would also deter burglars and inquisitive neighbours trying to hop over the wall, now highly illegal and also an insurance liability.

Sharpshooter

s14driftking wrote: »

u can get a wire u put all around your garden and a collar for the cats if put just inside your wall will stop the cats going sitting on his one might just do the trick for u
if he keeps it up call the site of animal cruetly and report him;)

Thanks a mill for this one,is there a particular name for this wire???:D

Sharpshooter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

An old trick is to embed broken glass into cement on wall tops. This would also deter burglars and inquisitive neighbours trying to hop over the wall, now highly illegal and also an insurance liability.

Oops! if it is illegal l best not try this one as he would most likely report me.Dont want to annoy him.:)

luckat

You can probably train your cats to sit on the other wall without a lot of trouble.

Training the neighbour, who sounds fairly strange, might be more difficult. Maybe some constructive ignoring might be in order.

Sharpshooter

luckat wrote: »

You can probably train your cats to sit on the other wall without a lot of trouble.

Training the neighbour, who sounds fairly strange, might be more difficult. Maybe some constructive ignoring might be in order.

These cats cannot be picked up as they came from a stray.if you know of any way to get them to sit on other wall please let me know.:)

Run_to_da_hills

A very successful way of your neighbour getting rid of unwanted cats from his garden is to get a couple of cats for himself. Cats are very territorial and would soon stop your cats from venturing into his garden.

Sharpshooter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

A very successful way of your neighbour getting rid of unwanted cats from his garden is to get a couple of cats for himself. Cats are very territorial and would soon stop your cats from venturing into his garden.

If only it was that simple,l would cheerfully get him a cat or cats ,
BUT.........he hates them(all cats not just mine) .:(

s14driftking

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Thanks a mill for this one,is there a particular name for this wire???:D

i dont know the name but any good pet shop should be able to help u it works by sending a sound out tat only animals can here

Sharpshooter

s14driftking wrote: »

i dont know the name but any good pet shop should be able to help u it works by sending a sound out tat only animals can here

ok so,that will be my mission for tomorrow.
Thanks so much.:D

carwash_2006

The radio fences, which would be the wire that somebody mentioned are not good for cats, they would be likely to cause behavioural problems as they basically give an electric shock.

If you get a few 2x2 bits of wood - wouldn't need to be more than a couple of feet long at most - attach them to the wall and run some ordinary wire around the inside along that wall. Just make sure that you run it right to the end and around in such a way that it would be really akward for the cats to get to that side of the wall.

I'm sure if you make it really hard for them to get on that wall they will go and sit on the other one.

doctor evil

OP who owns the wall? Because if you do anything to it and it turns out he owns it, he could turn into a much worse crochety barsteward. Perhaps give him a water pistol, if he uses it he may be less inclined to fill it with hot water.

I would document everything that happens and get it witnessed. Is it hot water from the tap or boiling? If he gets your cats with it I imagine it would be no fun. I wouldn't trust a saddo like that not to put sugar into the water to make it stick if it should come into contact with skin.

You mentioned in the first post there is no man in the house, it sounds like he is a bully. If so be very careful and get some male friends/relatives around.

Sharpshooter

carwash_2006 wrote: »

The radio fences, which would be the wire that somebody mentioned are not good for cats, they would be likely to cause behavioural problems as they basically give an electric shock.

If you get a few 2x2 bits of wood - wouldn't need to be more than a couple of feet long at most - attach them to the wall and run some ordinary wire around the inside along that wall. Just make sure that you run it right to the end and around in such a way that it would be really akward for the cats to get to that side of the wall.

I'm sure if you make it really hard for them to get on that wall they will go and sit on the other one.

:eek: l thank you for the above,(and with a bit of embarrassment) ask you if you mean l should run the wire at an angle to the wall???

doctor evil

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would be pi**ed off if I had a bird table in my garden and my neighbors cats were constantly stalking it.


I'm afraid thats just part and parcel of what a cat does, you can never stop a cat from watching/stalking. Nature is red in tooth and claw. Of course there are steps to minimize this such as cat bell, upside down funnel on the bird table leg, keeping cats in dawn and dusk.

luckat

How to train the cats: make the other wall more attractive to them, and make his wall unattractive (without cruelty).

You could put some chicken-wire up on your side of his wall, making it a nuisance for the cats to walk on - put it about an inch above the wall.

And plant nepeta (catmint or catnip) all along the base of the wall you want them to like. It's a very pretty plant.



And get a Feliway spray and spray the point on the opposite wall where you want them to sit.

And when they're on the wall where you *want* them to sit, give them the odd treat - whatever they particularly love, like bits of shredded liver.

Sharpshooter

doctor evil wrote: »

OP who owns the wall? Because if you do anything to it and it turns out he owns it, he could turn into a much worse crochety barsteward. Perhaps give him a water pistol, if he uses it he may be less inclined to fill it with hot water.

I would document everything that happens and get it witnessed. Is it hot water from the tap or boiling? If he gets your cats with it I imagine it would be no fun. I wouldn't trust a saddo like that not to put sugar into the water to make it stick if it should come into contact with skin.

You mentioned in the first post there is no man in the house, it sounds like he is a bully. If so be very careful and get some male friends/relatives around.

l would imagine its from the tap as he is too quick out of his door ,unless he has the kettle permanently on the boil.
As for relatives ,2 brothers with own familys who cant come over at short notice.:(

carwash_2006

Once the wire is there at all I don't think it will matter if it is angled. All you are aiming to do is to make it harder for them and not as comfortable for them. Cats are inherently lazy and will always go for the easier option.

Another thought that is going through my head is it would be against the law to cause deliberate harm to an animal. Have you mentioned this to your neighbour? I would say try sending him a letter about this and possibly log a copy of the letter with the local guards and perhaps the ISPCA? Let him know that if any harm comes to the cats from what he is doing you will make sure he is prosecuted.

Good luck, it really sucks when you are worried about your animals because of neighbours. I have some neighbours that worry me slightly. Thankfully they would have to go to a huge effort to do anything to them at this stage, but I still worry.

Sharpshooter

doctor evil wrote: »

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would be pi**ed off if I had a bird table in my garden and my neighbors cats were constantly stalking it.


I'm afraid thats just part and parcel of what a cat does, you can never stop a cat from watching/stalking. Nature is red in tooth and claw. Of course there are steps to minimize this such as cat bell, upside down funnel on the bird table leg, keeping cats in dawn and dusk.

When you say nature is red in tooth and claw,l think
nature may have played a trick on this little"Cat Gang"
as they lie in the garden and let the magpies eat their food....Killer cats they aint....:D

Sharpshooter

luckat wrote: »

How to train the cats: make the other wall more attractive to them, and make his wall unattractive (without cruelty).

You could put some chicken-wire up on your side of his wall, making it a nuisance for the cats to walk on - put it about an inch above the wall.

And plant nepeta (catmint or catnip) all along the base of the wall you want them to like. It's a very pretty plant.



And get a Feliway spray and spray the point on the opposite wall where you want them to sit.

And when they're on the wall where you *want* them to sit, give them the odd treat - whatever they particularly love, like bits of shredded liver.

Beautiful plant.Will shop for some tomorrow....and get it planted or sown,whichever the case may be:)

Sharpshooter

carwash_2006 wrote: »

Once the wire is there at all I don't think it will matter if it is angled. All you are aiming to do is to make it harder for them and not as comfortable for them. Cats are inherently lazy and will always go for the easier option.

Another thought that is going through my head is it would be against the law to cause deliberate harm to an animal. Have you mentioned this to your neighbour? I would say try sending him a letter about this and possibly log a copy of the letter with the local guards and perhaps the ISPCA? Let him know that if any harm comes to the cats from what he is doing you will make sure he is prosecuted.

Good luck, it really sucks when you are worried about your animals because of neighbours. I have some neighbours that worry me slightly. Thankfully they would have to go to a huge effort to do anything to them at this stage, but I still worry.

Yep,and l know to some my problem aint even a hill of beans but l love my Animals.
Come to think of it l wish l lived NEXT DOOR to my Animals....:D

doctor evil

sharpshooterH wrote: »

doctor evil wrote: »

When you say nature is red in tooth and claw,l think
nature may have played a trick on this little"Cat Gang"
as they lie in the garden and let the magpies eat their food....Killer cats they aint....:D

Magpies are the skangers of the bird world, they strike in numbers!

Run_to_da_hills

doctor evil wrote: »

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Magpies are the skangers of the bird world, they strike in numbers!

I love magpies, they are one of the most intelligent and cheekiest of all Irish wild birds, If you can get them young enough from a nest you can train them to talk.
Why spend hundreds on a mynah bird?.

Sharpshooter

doctor evil wrote: »

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Magpies are the skangers of the bird world, they strike in numbers!

So true.........this lot have taken residence nearby and actually pull the cats tails so one or two of their number can steal the food while the cats are busy having nervous breakdowns....:D

Run_to_da_hills

sharpshooterH wrote: »

doctor evil wrote: »

actually pull the cats tails

Speaking of, you have to look at this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYBu4T8NUWc

Sharpshooter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Speaking of, you have to look at this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYBu4T8NUWc

Cats a brill one and so like what happens here,thanks.
(ps)
watched it all which is why l am late in replying.:D

Sharpshooter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

doctor evil wrote: »

I love magpies, they are one of the most intelligent and cheekiest of all Irish wild birds, If you can get them young enough from a nest you can train them to talk.
Why spend hundreds on a mynah bird?.

Dont tempt me ,cause l know a couple of things l would teach them to say to a certain person,
However: l am not allowed to print them here.;)

Run_to_da_hills

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Cats a brill one and so like what happens here,thanks.
(ps)
watched it all which is why l am late in replying.:D

The cat in that vid was extremly dosile and tolerant, my brothers ex had a three legged cat that would have had that magpie for breakfast in two minutes. It was such a problem that my brothers ex had to put a bell on it.

houndsoflove

Sounds like a bored neighbor to me. Is he working at all? Or do our taxes pay nutter's like him to chase cats. You should keep an eye on him and tell him if any harm comes to the cats you will make his life a living hell

doctor evil

I like this vid, esp the Matrix reference

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=l-id0ltrlX4&feature=related

Sharpshooter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

sharpshooterH wrote: »

The cat in that vid was extremly dosile and tolerant, my brothers ex had a three legged cat that would have had that magpie for breakfast in two minutes. It was such a problem that my brothers ex had to put a bell on it.

My cats are too well fed,thats the problem because l over compensate with their food,have now started feeding them in the shed,
and all the magpies sit on the roof (you can almost see that they are trying to work out how to get through the door and back out..........ALIVE.........:D

Sharpshooter

houndsoflove wrote: »

Sounds like a bored neighbor to me. Is he working at all? Or do our taxes pay nutter's like him to chase cats. You should keep an eye on him and tell him if any harm comes to the cats you will make his life a living hell

No ,he is retired.........and if l was partnered up with" THE Great Kali"(sorry Wrestling Reference,no business here)then maybe l would take your advice ,
Standing well behind The afore mentioned Wrestler.:)

Sharpshooter

doctor evil wrote: »

I like this vid, esp the Matrix reference

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=l-id0ltrlX4&feature=related

Cat was great ,
Loved the "Cat eats Korea" and "oh no,Not my Car"
thanks..........DE.........:D

Sharpshooter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

sharpshooterH wrote: »

The cat in that vid was extremly dosile and tolerant, my brothers ex had a three legged cat that would have had that magpie for breakfast in two minutes. It was such a problem that my brothers ex had to put a bell on it.

Extremly dosile and tolerant...........
NOW............
if only that could apply to my neighbour...........:D

babychuckles

A friend has her cats secured in the garden with cat proof fencing which she brought in from the usa. That said it should be easy to replicate what she has with steel or wood poles/legs and fencing. The important thing is to have the shape right so that the fencing attached to the top of the wall comes in and over into your own garden. i did a search on google and finally found a site that has a drawing of how the top of the fencing should look for it to work. The search words that should let you see what im on about that are Cat Proof Fencing Dogpages forums
The picture on the forum is assuming that the garden does not have solid walls because if one has garden walls they will support the top of the fencing if one puts the steel or wooden "arms/rods" securely in place up the wall itself. i hope this makes sense and that you can find the picture, and perhaps wooden stakes/rods may do the job also/better as steel rods may not be available in the right shape?.

Intothesea

Hello there. Very tough break on a neighbour like that,
and although it might be tempting to ignore the aul wretch
one proper encounter with boiling water could blind a cat.
I would mention to him that this kind of behaviour is not
looked on kindly by the ISPCA, install some kind of fence;

(http://www.purrfectfence.co.uk/outdoor_cat_enclosures.asp

(Suppliers in England)

-- and plant the catnip. There's always the chance that
your mogs will get the picture thanks to his nasty moves,
but I wouldn't like to leave it to chance. Good luck

cotton

Just tell him quite simply cruelty is an offence & you're going to the guards.

Lauragoesmad

I would ring the garda and ask them to knock into him with you and tell him that he is intimidating you and that it is illegal to harm a cat. That would stop him being a nosey old pr*ck.
If anyone did that to my cat, they'd be lucky to get out of it with the same injuries as the cat. I don't think I could control my temper if someone did that to my cat.

Sharpshooter

Lauragoesmad wrote: »

I would ring the garda and ask them to knock into him with you and tell him that he is intimidating you and that it is illegal to harm a cat. That would stop him being a nosey old pr*ck.
If anyone did that to my cat, they'd be lucky to get out of it with the same injuries as the cat. I don't think I could control my temper if someone did that to my cat.

Unfortunatly the garda can do nothing without proof and thats hard to get,as most of the time it happens very quickly.

Can l add while l am here "MY THANKS" to everyone that replied to this Thread.;)

carwash_2006

Unfortunatly the garda can do nothing without proof and thats hard to get,as most of the time it happens very quickly.

This is why as well as doing what you can to keep the cats off the wall I would write him a letter and log a copy of it with the gardai. This would mean if anything did happen you would have a record of this. But if you tell him that you have this logged with the authorities too it may make him think twice about his actions.

Sharpshooter

carwash_2006 wrote: »

This is why as well as doing what you can to keep the cats off the wall I would write him a letter and log a copy of it with the gardai. This would mean if anything did happen you would have a record of this. But if you tell him that you have this logged with the authorities too it may make him think twice about his actions.

Thats some great advice there and have taken it on board.:)

wyk

Your control would have been to keep the cats inside. If you let your cats outdoors, you risks them annoying neighbors(which they are nearly guaranteed to do), and risks them being injured by angry neighbors, dogs, cars, etc.
Want to solve your problem? Bring them inside. That way you make them your cats, instead of the neighborhood's cats.

WYK

sharpshooterH wrote: »

No,when they were small and wandering everywhere they most probley used every garden,but l had no control over that as they were wild.
l keep soil regulary turned over now and they use that.:(