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  • 06-06-2008 1:30pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭


    No doubt I got lots wrong, so correct me please. Some answers arent done as they are proofs

    Q1 A) 2/x-2


    B) 1/3, 3/2 ,3


    Q2 A) [x+5]^2 + 7

    B) i) 47
    ii) 322 not sure about this sounds abit strange

    Q3 A) -7 2
    5 0

    B)1-i

    4 A) 3 nearly sure this is wrong

    5 A) -2<x<5

    B) ii) -5/2 +- 3^.5/2

    6 A) -3/2 times square root X

    C) -12

    7 A) 2 + 2cos2x

    B)-10x-6y/10y+6x

    8 A) x^2 + sin3x/3 + C

    B i) e-1
    ii) 12 - loge5

    C i) 6


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Fuascailt


    Burner- wrote: »
    No doubt I got lots wrong, so correct me please. Some answers arent done as they are proofs

    Q1 A) 2/x-2yes


    B) 1/3, 3/2 ,3yes


    Q2 A) [x+5]^2 + 7yes

    B) i) 47
    ii) 322 not sure about this sounds abit strangeI got this as well! did think it was a bit weird

    Q3 A) -7 2
    5 0as far as i can remember, yes

    B)1-i yup

    4 A) 3 nearly sure this is wrong

    5 A) -2<x<5

    B) ii) -5/2 +- 3^.5/2

    6 A) -3/2 times square root Xyup

    C) -12i got -36, but i think -12 is right, hopefull just a slip

    7 A) 2 + 2cos2xyes, thought that was suspiciously short

    B)-10x-6y/10y+6xyes

    8 A) x^2 + sin3x/3 + C yes

    B i) e-1 yes
    ii) 12 - loge5yes

    C i) 6
    This has cheered me up a little:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭Yuugib


    how the hell are you getting 12 -log 5?
    i have (1/4) log 5


  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭tabouli


    Q1 a) 6/(x+2)(x-2)

    b)x= 3, 3/2, 1/3

    Q2) a) (x+5)^2

    b)i) 47
    ii) 322

    3) a) (7 -2)
    (-5 0)

    b)i) 1-i
    ii) 8i

    4)a) 3

    c)ii) 2n^3 +4n^2 +7n +2^n -1

    5)a) -2<x<5

    b)i) x= -27/4 (? not a clue)

    6)a) 3rootx/2

    c)i) b=-12
    ii) -20<c<7

    7)a) 2 +2cos2x

    b)i) -5x-3y/5y+3x

    c) 1/1+x^2

    8)a) x^2 +sin3x/3 (I may have left out the c... :o)

    b)i) e-1

    ii) 120 (think this is very wrong :/)

    c) 16/3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 LC90


    Burner- wrote: »
    No doubt I got lots wrong, so correct me please. Some answers arent done as they are proofs

    Q1 A) 2/x-2 Same:D


    B) 1/3, 3/2 ,3 Same:D



    Q2 A) [x+5]^2 + 7 Same:D

    B) i) 47 Same:D
    ii) 322 not sure about this sounds abit strange Same:D

    Q3 A) -7 2
    5 0

    B)1-i

    4 A) 3 nearly sure this is wrong

    5 A) -2<x<5

    B) ii) -5/2 +- 3^.5/2

    6 A) -3/2 times square root X Don't think there was a minus

    C) -12 Same:D

    7 A) 2 + 2cos2x Same:D

    B)-10x-6y/10y+6x Same:D

    8 A) x^2 + sin3x/3 + C Ah,ffs I put the 3 in front of the Sin :(

    B i) e-1 Same:D
    ii) 12 - loge5 Went with a sneaky misreading ;)

    C i) 6

    .


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    tabouli wrote: »
    Q1 a) 6/(x+2)(x-2) Yippee same!!:cool:

    b)x= 3, 3/2, 1/3 i got x=3, got no more:(
    Q2) a) (x+5)^2 same...tout it was 2 easy2 b tru!!;)

    b)i) 47 Ya ur right, but i messed it up and put a + in formula:mad:
    ii) 322

    3) a) (7 -2) hmm..i got da same nos as ya, but all positive except 7
    (-5 0)

    b)i) 1-i same
    ii) 8i same...would it matter much if i left out the i tho??:confused:

    4)a) 3

    c)ii) 2n^3 +4n^2 +7n +2^n -1

    5)a) -2<x<5

    b)i) x= -27/4 (? not a clue)

    6)a) 3rootx/2 right again, but i messed that one up as well

    c)i) b=-12 yes!!:D
    ii) -20<c<7

    7)a) 2 +2cos2x yippee!!!:D

    b)i) -5x-3y/5y+3x same but i didnt cancel em

    c) 1/1+x^2

    8)a) x^2 +sin3x/3 (I may have left out the c... :o) YAH!!!;)

    b)i) e-1

    ii) 120 (think this is very wrong :/)

    c) 16/3

    whew...still tink im a borderline fail. does any1 no how much attempt marks are worth????


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  • Registered Users Posts: 688 ✭✭✭eoin2nc


    For Q3bii i stupidly wrote 8 instead of 8i. How many marks would I lose?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    eoin2nc wrote: »
    For Q3bii i stupidly wrote 8 instead of 8i. How many marks would I lose?

    me too!!!!! :mad::mad::mad: i am very angry at myself. im hopin dey wont mark down much for it coz i had the i the whole way down except in da last line!!!:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    eoin2nc wrote: »
    For Q3bii i stupidly wrote 8 instead of 8i. How many marks would I lose?

    3 I think. Could be 1 though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Peleus


    eoin2nc wrote: »
    For Q3bii i stupidly wrote 8 instead of 8i. How many marks would I lose?

    if the exmainer thinks you knew it should be 8i but accidently left out the i, its -1 mark. if he thinks you thought it should be 8, he'll probably mark you down 3 (blunder)

    depends how you wrote down your answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭TheBigRedDog


    For question 2c

    Is (a^2 + b^2) = (a + b)^2 - 2ab

    giving you 7^2 - 2(1) = 45???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 florencexxx


    49-2 = 47

    Am I the only one that got 2-i for Q3(b)? Eep.
    Other than that they all look pretty familiar, so here's hoping...=]


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 ShogunWarrior


    Hey just wondering about Q6 (a), I keep doing it and by the chain rule it makes sense to me as 3x^2 / (sqrt(x^3))

    Attached solution if someone would take a look.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Peslo


    What was the story with there being no part (i) or (ii) in b or c of Q1!!!!!!! That was bang out of order! I mean, they've ALWAYS done that and they have done with EVERY other question on the paper!
    If they had of broken up 1c into to parts, i think more people could have managed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 less is more


    1.(b) I guessed the root of 3. How were you supposed to get it? By inspection?

    2.(c) was a weird question, but I think I wrote a passable answer. There was hardly any maths involved, mostly using common sense - I wrote something like:

    (a^2 + b^2)/(ab) is always >2 when the signs are the same. (try it yourself with some values)

    and a/-b + -b/a = -(a^2 + b^2)/(ab) is always <-2 for the same reason, but the outer minus changes the sign

    Therefore, value never lies between -2 and 2

    3.(c) Did no one else include the 1/11? I remember we had to premultipy by A^-1 [ie 1/11(forgot the matrix no.s :confused:)] to both sides

    5. was ridiculously easy, but made up for it in part (c)! If I had more time I probably could have figured it out, but I did all 8 questions so I ran out.

    6. I found fairly ok, the diff of two squares bit threw me in (b), but got the correct answer in the end

    7. (a) I went a bit further and ended up with 4cos^2 x, using the theorems book. Hopefully I won't lose marks...

    8. (b)(ii) I could not for the life of me figure this out! It's a quotient with no theorem on p41, substitution didn't work, integrating straight away didn't work!

    (c) I got weird fractions for the various sections of the shaded area (like 47/24!!), but all added up to 19, which greatly surprised me! Hopefully that's correct and not just a cruel coincidence :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 NanoZoom555


    1.(b) I guessed the root of 3. How were you supposed to get it? By inspection?


    3.(c) Did no one else include the 1/11? I remember we had to premultipy by A^-1 [ie 1/11(forgot the matrix no.s :confused:)] to both sides


    8. (b)(ii) I could not for the life of me figure this out! It's a quotient with no theorem on p41, substitution didn't work, integrating straight away didn't work!


    for q.1 b) you sub in values untill f(x) =0

    for q.3c) where are you getting 1/11 - its induction (f(1),f(k),f(k+1))

    for q.8 b)ii) let u = x^2 - 1

    rewrite 2x^3 as 2x(x^2) and get du and just sub in so that its in terms of u and integrate and solve

    hope that helps!


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 ShogunWarrior


    Thankfully Q1 was actually my best I think, unless I made a slip somewhere in there.

    I've attached (PDF) my solution to Q1. (c)

    I can do out other solutions if anyone wants for discussion or otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Peslo


    hope that helps!

    Bit late now! lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 ShogunWarrior


    Here's attached (PDF) Q1. (b) for anyone who wants (what I hope is) the solution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 less is more


    1.(b) I guessed the root of 3. How were you supposed to get it? By inspection?


    3.(c) Did no one else include the 1/11? I remember we had to premultipy by A^-1 [ie 1/11(forgot the matrix no.s :confused:)] to both sides


    8. (b)(ii) I could not for the life of me figure this out! It's a quotient with no theorem on p41, substitution didn't work, integrating straight away didn't work!


    for q.1 b) you sub in values untill f(x) =0

    for q.3c) where are you getting 1/11 - its induction (f(1),f(k),f(k+1))

    for q.8 b)ii) let u = x^2 - 1

    rewrite 2x^3 as 2x(x^2) and get du and just sub in so that its in terms of u and integrate and solve

    hope that helps!

    Sorry I meant 3. (a)
    Thanks for your help with the other questions though, I CANNOT believe I didn't think of subbing values in for 1.(b)! Just shows what stress will do to ya


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Peslo


    What was the story with there being no part (i) or (ii) in b or c of Q1!!!!!!! That was bang out of order! I mean, they've ALWAYS done that and they have done with EVERY other question on the paper!
    If they had of broken up 1c into to parts, i think more people could have managed it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    Paper really pissed me off.

    No binomial or induction in the binomial/induction question? Taking the piss.


  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭jennyq


    Induction did come up in q.3 & you did have to know the rules for (n r) as regards binomial in fairness.

    Did aaaanybody else at all do 5(c) :rolleyes: Here's my solution from the other thread, I'd like to know if anybody else did something different or the same though, doesn't seem like many did it.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56160914&postcount=81


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Adventure


    For question 8 (b)(ii) any one get

    16+ln5 ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭orangetictac


    Adventure wrote: »
    For question 8 (b)(ii) any one get

    16+ln5 ??


    I think i got 12 +ln5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cokehead Mother


    jennyq wrote: »
    Induction did come up in q.3 & you did have to know the rules for (n r) as regards binomial in fairness.

    Did aaaanybody else at all do 5(c) :rolleyes: Here's my solution from the other thread, I'd like to know if anybody else did something different or the same though, doesn't seem like many did it.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56160914&postcount=81

    Yep. Did it the exact same way and got n = -1 like you. Messiest question ever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭Decerto


    for question 2(c) did anyone simplify a/b +b/a to a^2 +b^2/ab and say that is > then 2 and then multiply across and u end up with (a+b)^2> 0 which proves its true and do tht again with a minus sign


  • Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Peleus


    Hey just wondering about Q6 (a), I keep doing it and by the chain rule it makes sense to me as 3x^2 / (sqrt(x^3))

    Attached solution if someone would take a look.

    ye thats right. everyone else got (3/2)rootX
    thats equal to your answer: (3x^2)/(root(x^3)). so its right just in a different form.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cokehead Mother


    Peleus wrote: »
    i dont think you're allowed to let u=x^3. because then you are not including the cube in the differentiation.

    What do you mean? You let u = x^3, so du/dx = 3x^2 and then you multiply that by 1/2rootu.

    The quick way is to you use your junior cert knowledge of indices and then differentiate. It's just x to the power of 3 halves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 dyle123


    Yep. Did it the exact same way and got n = -1 like you. Messiest question ever.
    I did something similar.

    I got the common ratio twice and showed that they were not equal and so it could not be a GP if they were consecutive terms.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    Yep. Did it the exact same way and got n = -1 like you. Messiest question ever.
    I did the same thing but got n = -2.

    I'd say I'll get a good 15/20 though.

    Did everyone change (n) to (n)(n-1)
    (r) (r)(r-1) etc etc?


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