How many in your year do HL Maths?

EmmetF

At the beginning of fifth year (with a year of 120), there were about 40 maybe 50 doing HL.

Now, 3 days before Paper 1 Maths there are 19 in the whole year. 7 in one class and 12 in the other.

Erica-smiley

In my school only 10 people do it in the whole year... Out of 120!:eek::eek:

Its too hard, I was doing it til feb but had to drop!

Flyer1

3 out of about 70...

cHaTbOx

13 with 10 a's in JC 3 b's

starkinter

At the start of fifth year, higher level was in the majority; now we're down to about 40-45% I'd say.

muffinman

About 40 out of 120.. Was much higher but then christmas exams and mocks hit

PurpleFistMixer

3 out of about 70 (well about 15 do LCA so they don't exactly get the option). We had 7 at the start of this year.. then the mocks happened. People just don't want to risk failing it, I think.

Davidius

Well I don't actually know who's in my class but based on glances I'd say there's about 17 maybe. It's hard to tell because a lot of them just don't turn up a lot of the time. Just finished fifth year. No idea how many people are in our year but the pass class is becoming oversubscribed apparently.

Most people in my class don't seem to be very good at it...or those who aren't good at it are a lot more vocal about it.

6 outta 80.

KnifeWRENCH

Did my LC last year:
At the start of 5th Year we had 11 out of about 60.
At the end of 6th Year, there was 2 of us left!
Which was double the number who did HL the year before! :eek:

This year there's a staggering 3 people doing HL.

EmmetF

UL have it right, bonus points for honours maths is the way to go. I've devoted so much time to maths because of this, but for me it's important cos I wanna do Civil Engineering.
I talked to my Dad about maths in engineering today (he's one), and it's amazing how much of real world problems in engineering can be solved with differentiation and integration.

People who say you never use maths after school haven't a clue/

King Ludvig

In fifth year there was about 60 people out of a year of 120 doing HL Maths

Now theres about 25 left

LayLay

There is one class in my whole year. About 20 out of 180 students. There are 7 maths classes altogether. 1 houours, 5 pass and 1 foundation.

Fitzo

Was about 35ish in two classes at the start of this year, now down to 12ish altogether.

Fuascailt

25 out of 80 girls. I'm surprised, we seem to be quite high.

eoin2nc

Its a joke that they make the exam so hard that one a minority can attempt it at higher level. I think they should make it easier and have more people doing higher level

Caoimhe89

Fuascailt wrote: »

25 out of 80 girls. I'm surprised, we seem to be quite high.

Sounds really high! We've about 19 out of 78 girls (methinks)... And the boys school next to us has easily double the number... Started in 5th year with two classes for HL Maths, then half way 5th year through we had about 35 in one classroom... now it's down to 19... tough really.

Fuascailt

eoin2nc wrote: »

Its a joke that they make the exam so hard that one a minority can attempt it at higher level. I think they should make it easier and have more people doing higher level

Well it is "ordinary". Shouldnt that mean the majority do it?

tabouli

We've about 10 out of 120 girls. It started out at around 40 in fifth year, but a lot of people dropped at the start of sixth year, and a few more went in the last couple of weeks too.

Decerto

EmmetF wrote: »

UL have it right, bonus points for honours maths is the way to go. I've devoted so much time to maths because of this, but for me it's important cos I wanna do Civil Engineering.
I talked to my Dad about maths in engineering today (he's one), and it's amazing how much of real world problems in engineering can be solved with differentiation and integration.

People who say you never use maths after school haven't a clue/

You should of done applied maths, you would be shocked at how maths can break down real life things into equations at only leaving cert level

Caoimhe89

Decerto wrote: »

You should of done applied maths, you would be shocked at how maths can break down real life things into equations at only leaving cert level

i do applied maths! Should have done Physics so I'd actually have a clue what it was all about. But it helps your maths anyway! And if you want to do Engineering, the LC Applied Maths course is pretty much the same as the 1st year Engineering Applied Maths section...

mahamageehad

i'm da only person doing honours maths in my school this year.... thats 1 girl out of 40

JC06

This is actually embarassing to say....0 out of about 70! There was a class of 7 in fifth year, but we all dropped at the start of this year.

Mark200

There's about 220 in my year....and I'm not sure, I think we have three classes. But none of them are full. There's 13 in my class, and about 8 in another. I don't have a clue about the other class though.

sd123

I'm a bit surprised with the small numbers of people doing HL. At the beginning of 5th yr there was a good 50 ppl doing it, when we came to sitting the exam, we had a good 25 doing it, and that was in a year of C. 110

Davidius

eoin2nc wrote: »

Its a joke that they make the exam so hard that one a minority can attempt it at higher level. I think they should make it easier and have more people doing higher level

But if they lowered the standard so that more people were able for it then that defeats the point of even having higher level. The fact is that plenty of people are capable of doing HL maths. If people find it so hard then they can do ordinary level.

With that said, its difficulty is also ridiculously overhyped.

eoin2nc

Davidius wrote: »

But if they lowered the standard so that more people were able for it then that defeats the point of even having higher level. The fact is that plenty of people are capable of doing HL maths. If people find it so hard then they can do ordinary level.

With that said, its difficulty is also ridiculously overhyped.

But look at the amount of people who do HL English for example. Far more than Maths, I think there should be an equal % of students who do HL in each subject. Just my $0.02.

TBH i found English more work than HL maths so i dropped that instead of maths, but then again maths was my strong point. I am capable of doing HL but I think it should be made more accessible to the masses

spillit67

There's about 35 in my year out of 100 doing HL, all boys school. Then we have about 15 doing Applied Maths.

Davidius

eoin2nc wrote: »

But look at the amount of people who do HL English for example. Far more than Maths, I think there should be an equal % of students who do HL in each subject. Just my $0.02.

TBH i found English more work than HL maths so i dropped that instead of maths, but then again maths was my strong point. I am capable of doing HL but I think it should be made more accessible to the masses

We have Ordinary Level for accesibility, that's not what HL is supposed to be for. If they want an equal percentage of people doing HL in each subject, they can make other subjects harder.

teckoda

There was 18 of us doing higher level in 5th year, including me. And now there are 3!

heyjude

eoin2nc wrote: »

. I think they should make it easier and have more people doing higher level

But surely the point of a higher level is that it should be harder. If you wanted to make it easier, do away with the foundation level and call it ordinary level, then rename the ordinary level paper the new 'Higher Level' and then most leaving cert students would do higher level maths and anyone capable of doing the real 'Higher Level' would be guaranteed an A. Mind you, the value of having Higher Level maths would be devalued.

The difficulty of the paper and the time it takes to do Higher Level maths, is what makes getting a good grade in it worthwhile, but I would agree that it takes far more work than most other subjects and that should be reflected in the points you get for having it, otherwise in a points race, people will ignore it and chase the easier points in other subjects(as many do).

22diamonds

there's about 170 people in my year and about 60 doing HL. not too bad i guess

turgon

Personally I think they should lower have difficulty of honours maths a tiny bit, make it worth say 90 points, and then create and extra-honours maths that is even harder. It would be worth say 130/140 points.

EmmetF

Decerto wrote: »

You should of done applied maths, you would be shocked at how maths can break down real life things into equations at only leaving cert level

I would have if my school let us. The year before I went into 5th year they pulled the topic due to lack of interest. I do HL Physics too so it woulda been real handy, pity though.

JC 2K3

eoin2nc wrote: »

Its a joke that they make the exam so hard that one a minority can attempt it at higher level. I think they should make it easier and have more people doing higher level

Why? What difference does it make if only a minority do HL?

In my school, 15-20 out of 60 did it. About 40 did at the start of 5th year.

kangaroo

EmmetF wrote: »

UL have it right, bonus points for honours maths is the way to go.

I agree. Certainly for courses like engineering which have a high maths content. It's much more relevant than your result in English/Irish/French/Biology/Home Economics, etc.

Of course once someone gets in, if they don't know their maths and they don't have a good natural ability, they will find it a lot tougher than others.

Personally I think the Leaving Cert & college entry in Ireland is weighted too much towards people who are good at languages and/or learning stuff off.

EmmetF wrote: »

I've devoted so much time to maths because of this, but for me it's important cos I wanna do Civil Engineering.
I talked to my Dad about maths in engineering today (he's one), and it's amazing how much of real world problems in engineering can be solved with differentiation and integration.

People who say you never use maths after school haven't a clue/

Blitz17

2 people out of 60 i think, the rest then are ordinary, and a good lot of foundation too

starkinter

There's an extreme difference in what proportion of various years are doing it. I think I heard somewhere the national average is 17%.

lawdeedaw

does anyone know exactly how many extra points you get in ul??

we have 17 outa 70

laura*

aprox 10/86

but it could even be less,
think more dropped down on the day!

its crazy
and they're all doing grinds too!
i know i would have been well able for it but the ONE teacher they use is just a terrible!
and no, it is ACTUALLY cause of the teacher, cause i've been an A student in maths!

the teacher turns up to class about twice a week,
and spends the time giving out about anything!

magnia

I hate people blaming their teacher for their problems. He/she obviously doesn't come in twice a week or he/she wouldnt be teaching a leaving cert class, unless your school is a total joke which I somehow doubt if your a so called A student.

I did pass Maths and now have a degree in Software Engineering, I do believe that the students who I went to college with who did honours had a better brain for what we were doing though in college though. I just made the C1 requirement for Uni in pass maths for my course. I think only 3 or 4 did hon in my class, with only 1 passing.

Im sure everyone knows maths who did a great leaving cert and then failed honours maths.

anna.fun

in my old skool there were

2005: 1 out of 73
2006: 8 out of 72
2007: 13 out of 75

in maths hl

Mongey

About 25 are left so far

Lia_lia

14 out of 80 girls, or something like that.

Mark200

magnia wrote: »

I hate people blaming their teacher for their problems. He/she obviously doesn't come in twice a week or he/she wouldnt be teaching a leaving cert class, unless your school is a total joke which I somehow doubt if your a so called A student.

So the teacher never is to blame? I'm confident I got a B in my honours maths but I'm quite sure I wouldn't have got it if I didn't have a good maths teacher who was able to explain things well.

fh041205

Whats with the low amounts doing HL maths. It was the same in my school about 20 out of 120. Its not that hard of an exam and the paper is very fair, lots of choice. It should be fairly easy to get students to a pass level. I think most people are afraid of being on the line and just don't bother. Then again there are a lot of utterly useless maths teachers out there aswell.

MattD

People who solely complain about their teacher and do nothing about it and then do badly in exams. They suck
In 5th year, we had an awful Biology Teacher, commanded no respect and didnt teach us anything. Barely came in as well. We complained and got a new teacher for 6th year.

So quit bitching, and either study harder, ask someone else for help or do something about it.


On topic: about 30/100

dip

9 out of about 110

Fun times!

fh041205

MattD wrote: »

People who solely complain about their teacher and do nothing about it and then do badly in exams. They suck
In 5th year, we had an awful Biology Teacher, commanded no respect and didnt teach us anything. Barely came in as well. We complained and got a new teacher for 6th year.

So quit bitching, and either study harder, ask someone else for help or do something about it.


On topic: about 30/100

Maybe a bit OTT but i agree in essence with what you're saying. We all get a bad teacher from time to time. There's no point whinging you just have to find some way of dealing with it. I changes classes in a couple of subjects for the leaving cert and dropped to Ordinary in one because there's no point in sticking with a teacher who you know is rubbish.

Then again teachers who command little respect still have a huge knowledge of the course so if you pay some attention, ask questions etc. it mighn't be so bad.

magnia

yeah we did a similar thing in 5th year.

"What do we want?"
"Smada, out!"
"When do we want it?"
"Now!"

He was going mental, but similar story he wasnt a bad man or anything just couldnt control the class. That afternoon vice principal came in to talk to us and gave us a bollocking for how we treated him and told us we had all behaved like animals in his class and could any of us truthfully say we had given him a chance to teach us. But the reality of the situation is the teacher must control the classroom. Anyway he retired to be a farmer that year and we had a new teacher for 6th year.

m-i-t-s-u-k-o

There's 14 of us out of 130. There used to be two teachers and a higher honours class and a lower honours class. I'm in the higher honours class and our teacher is amazing! During sixth year the numbers started to drop down and now we're at 14!

I definetly think how good a teacher you have can really decide! Our teacher left during the last month on maternity leave and our substitute was ****! If we had him for our full year no way i'd be in honours!