Marks & Spencer Foodhall - Ferrybank

Upthedeise07

Has anyone heard about this?
Also, when is the Ferrybank shopping centre opening?

Sully

Last I heard they had no interest in opening in the Waterford area. I think the Ferrybank Shopping centre is opening in August though?

trishw78

M&S Food Hall would be sweet. But seeing as Dunnes Stores are moving in I'd very much doubt that M&S will move in also

JohnC.

Sully wrote: »

Last I heard they had no interest in opening in the Waterford area. I think the Ferrybank Shopping centre is opening in August though?

Yes, August. Though I don't know what going in there apart from Dunnes and someone mentioned the company that has the franchises for KFC and Pizza Hut are supposed to be putting something in there, but I haven't heard which.

mike65

I'll be queuing for the the Steak and Kidney pies!

Mike.

Cabaal

hope there's noty another Dunnes, the world has enough of the bloody things

amyloneill

dunnes are def going in there , not to sure what else ! great another dunnes :rolleyes: just what we all need .........

magick

a M&S id love their food is so tasty and chcos yum yum.

As for KFC or pizza hut meh , give me another subway or quiznos

Jor

The last time I checked, there was no mention of M&S moving into Ferrybank.
If they ever did, that would end any chance of them ever putting in a full shop in the city centre.

I like some of their food, but bearing in mind that they and many of the other big UK retailers are conning Irish customers into paying more than in Britain, I would not be inclined to give them much of my hard-earned money.

trishw78

Did I read someplace about them going to Clonmel or was I dreaming again

Sully

trishw78 wrote: »

Did I read someplace about them going to Clonmel or was I dreaming again

It was said but I dont know if it was said on the record, if you get me?!

Jayeire

ugh Dunnes Stores... how lovely...
Probably the most stingey and worst run supermarket in Ireland.. and I can comment as I worked there for long enough :rolleyes:
It's about time we got M&S.. something I'm sure the people of Waterford actually want...

south

M&S wanted to open down in Tralee in a big retail park on the outskirts of town but the council wanted them to open the shop in the town centre so they packed their bags and headed off to killarney instead. They opened a new shop only two weeks ago. I can see the same happening in waterford..

Sully

south wrote: »

M&S wanted to open down in Tralee in a big retail park on the outskirts of town but the council wanted them to open the shop in the town centre so they packed their bags and headed off to killarney instead. They opened a new shop only two weeks ago. I can see the same happening in waterford..

Already did

krux

Jor wrote: »

I like some of their food, but bearing in mind that they and many of the other big UK retailers are conning Irish customers into paying more than in Britain, I would not be inclined to give them much of my hard-earned money.

Have you looked at prices in your local supermarket at all lately??

I'd love an M&S in Waterford some of their food is fantastic even if a little pricey,bit at least you get what you pay for.

Mocrie14

Heard today that Marks & Sparks will be opening in the Ferrybank shopping centre...anyone else heard this?

ziedth

I have not,

Good news as a customer though if true. I always swing into the one in cork on the way home every week to buy a few bits.

Paddy@CIRL

The FB shopping centre won't be opening until the court case with Dunnes is resolved, however long that takes ...

Cabaal

So if Ferrybank gets M&S what happens if TK Maxx also want to setup shop in Ferybank?

After all it may be alot more suitable then the middle of waterford space wise, how would Waterford CC react?

Jambo

Bazbu wrote: »

Heard today that Marks & Sparks will be opening in the Ferrybank shopping centre...anyone else heard this?

I Pass by it multiple times every day and there seems to be alot more activity in there yet again.

Two weeks ago there was numerous folk in there working for the week and again yesterday and today , surely there must be something due to happen cause no developer or property manager is going to be spending money unless they know they have an income around the corner.

Ideally here would suit tkmaxx if and when they leave butlerstown retail pk.

Edit ; IMHO TKmaxx would be an excellent anchor tennant for getting Ferrybank off the ground judging by the crowds they pull at the weekends to butlerstown ,

trishw78

I thought this place was one of the NAMA places? I could be wrong....

jo06555

Cabaal wrote: »

So if Ferrybank gets M&S what happens if TK Maxx also want to setup shop in Ferybank?

After all it may be alot more suitable then the middle of waterford space wise, how would Waterford CC react?

all this bull over bulk and non bulk would be coming back to bite them in ass then, surely the waterford city council should be trying to encourage new outlets not close them....

Aquos76

trishw78 wrote: »

I thought this place was one of the NAMA places? I could be wrong....

Nope, not yet, that was the other development out by abbeypark

kayaksurfbum

Are the Nama properties listed somewhere?

Cabaal

jo06555 wrote: »

all this bull over bulk and non bulk would be coming back to bite them in ass then, surely the waterford city council should be trying to encourage new outlets not close them....

Thing is if the went to Ferrybank it'll still affect the city center but Waterford CC may have less control to stop them setting up shop in ferrybank

merlante

Cabaal wrote: »

So if Ferrybank gets M&S what happens if TK Maxx also want to setup shop in Ferybank?

After all it may be alot more suitable then the middle of waterford space wise, how would Waterford CC react?

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of kicking them out of where they are? 45,000 people would have to go over the bridge to get to it.

There's plenty of space in Waterford city centre, just not many suitable units...

wellboy76

Sad the way this place is bloody opening and then TK Maxx has to close down

Aquos76

wellboy76 wrote: »

Sad the way this place is bloody opening and then TK Maxx has to close down

Why is it sad the way ferrybank is opening, It's a developement that has been finished for quite a while now, surely it's better to see units beginning to open rather than have it just sitting there. The fact that tk max may have to close because of planning issues, well that should have no nothing to do with ferrybank at all. The simply facts of tk max closing is soley down to Waterford city council and Waterford county council and rates. The fact that there is no alternative unit in the city centre available is again no fault of tk max, and because there are potentially suitable units available in ferrybank, well that's Waterford city council loss yet again.

Also to the best ok my knowledge, neither tk max or m&s have actually confirmed that they are indeed taking up units in ferrybank, but I firmly believe the sooner ferrybank opens the better.

robtri

Aquos76 wrote: »

The simply facts of tk max closing is soley down to Waterford city council and Waterford county council and rates. The fact that there is no alternative unit in the city centre available is again no fault of tk max, and because there are potentially suitable units available in ferrybank, well that's Waterford city council loss yet again.

Sorry but the simple facts of TK Maxx closing down is solely down to TK MAXX... no one else.... don't blame the council for TK screwing things up...

there are a few places in city centre capable of supporting the,... the place pennys just left for one....

Aquos76

Are you trying to tell me that the county council were not aware of the type of goods which tk max trade in, the fact of the matter was that they were only interested in the rates, and decided to turn a blind eye to that fact.

Cabaal

merlante wrote: »

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of kicking them out of where they are? 45,000 people would have to go over the bridge to get to it.

Perhaps it does but thats onl;y Waterford CC's view
After all its not TK Maxx''s decision to move so I guess they can move where they believe is suitable?

There's plenty of space in Waterford city centre, just not many suitable units...

Thats the problem, if ferrybank had a suitable unit then it would make sense to move to it

wellboy76

Is the centre technically in kilkenny?

Jambo

wellboy76 wrote: »

Is the centre technically in kilkenny?

Yes both Technically and Physically

Here is a link to the Kilkenny Co Mapping and Planning System which shows the county boundary

danjo-xx

Look whatever the rights and wrongs about TK Max some accommodation should be made to leave them where they are, were in a bloody depression for godsake. Take them out and all ya have left is NO HARVEY NO and Haldfords & Home focus, not much to draw the punters out.

mike65

Forget Technically and Physically where is it spiritually and psychologically?

Paddy@CIRL

mike65 wrote: »

Forget Technically and Physically where is it spiritually and psychologically?

Kilkenny.

lassykk

mike65 wrote: »

Forget Technically and Physically where is it spiritually and psychologically?

with jesus :rolleyes:

Cabaal

mike65 wrote: »

Forget Technically and Physically where is it spiritually and psychologically?

Kilkenny CoCo would get the benefits of TK Maxx being in the centre, so basically "if" TK Maxx did move to it Waterford CC have basically made a massive mistake and lost any benefits of TK Maxx being in Waterford revenue/rates wise.

gscully

Is the cycling attire sold in Halfords considered bulky goods? What about linen sold in Homefocus??

robtri

Aquos76 wrote: »

Are you trying to tell me that the county council were not aware of the type of goods which tk max trade in, the fact of the matter was that they were only interested in the rates, and decided to turn a blind eye to that fact.

No i am trying to tell you that is the responsibility of the Lessee/owner to ensure that appropriate planning is in place and in order....
it is not the Co Co responsibility....

The Co Co get rates respective if TK Maxx are there or not.... from the landlord/owner... In most shared tennant buildings like this, till a full assement is done the landlord is billed the full rates for the whole complex and he passes it on to the tennants on a pro rata basis.

TK Maxx deal with the landlord in arranging their lease not Co Co planning department... so they wheren't notified...

gman2k

trishw78 wrote: »

I thought this place was one of the NAMA places? I could be wrong....

I was under the impression that any development loan over €5m would be transferred to NAMA, whether performing or not! ( I could be wrong, and probably am!)

comeraghs

Railway Square would be perfect fot TKMaxx ... Would encourage other retailers to take the other units & brighten up that whole area!

could be good for the city ..

Cabaal

Looks like Ferrybank Shopping Centre destined for NAMA

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/Looks-like-Ferrybank-Shopping-Centre.6053303.jp

Looks like Ferrybank Shopping Centre destined for NAMA

Published Date: 08 February 2010
By Staff Reporter
IT seems that the Ferrybank Shopping Centre is heading towards NAMA. That was the impression given at a meeting of southern based county councillors on Friday afternoon in Newrath. Cllr Cora Long (Fianna Fail) asked officials what was happening with the huge complex of building which has lain idle for the last number of months. Her fear is that it will become a white elephant.

Director of Services with Kilkenny County Council, John McCormack said it was a private development which had received planning and was not currently a matter for the local authority because, it was still within the time period allowed in the grant of planning. He said that the meeting might not be the best forum to talk about it but said that it was like many other sites caught in the current economic climate and added that it could be come part of NAMA but that he did not know and that things would not become clearer until NAMA was up and running fully.

Cllr Long asked my McCormack to come back with a more definitive answer if that was possible. He promised he would look into the matter but reiterated that it was at present a private development which did not fall under the jurisdiction of the local authority.

Jambo

That article in the Kilkenny People says it "Could become part of NAMA" not that it will , abeit there is a high possibility .

On another note more work going on inside there today , I can see some sort of internal signage has been hung to give directions to areas within the centre. If the centre is destined for NAMA or to be a white elephant how come the developer is still outlaying cash for something that may be taken from their hands in the near future ?

Cabaal

Don't ask me
Perhaps try catch one of the people in the place and ask them what the story is?

Jambo

More work been carried out there both internally and externally there today and yesterday , Maybe we shall find out this afternoon if this place is destined for NAMA with the pending anouncements.

I do have my doubts though if contractors are carrying out work there that its going to become part of NAMA.

hardybuck

The obsession with UK retailers is an unhealthy one in my opinion. While they play an important role in offering consumer choice and a small amount of job creation, long term it does nothing for us. Its all money being expatriated out of the country to foreign shareholders.

The way we are going we will be indistinguishable with places like Telford or Milton Keynes in ten years time. Buy Irish if you can I say.

mike65

Listen kid, for the sake of a M&S steak and kidney pie I'd sell my soul!

Dum_Dum

Ferrybank: it's not just any white elephant, it's an M&S white elephant.

Psychedelic

hardybuck wrote: »

The obsession with UK retailers is an unhealthy one in my opinion. While they play an important role in offering consumer choice and a small amount of job creation, long term it does nothing for us. Its all money being expatriated out of the country to foreign shareholders.

The way we are going we will be indistinguishable with places like Telford or Milton Keynes in ten years time. Buy Irish if you can I say.

It is also worth noting that many UK multiples like Tesco, Argos, Boots, Debenhams etc, do not contribute enough to the local economy, apart from employing people and paying commercial rates. It is the local businesses that give back to the community by supporting local charities & organisations, and by sponsoring initiatives to improve the city centre e.g. the UK multiples don't contribute to things like the Christmas lights.

Princessa

Anybody know when TkMax is closing down?