Samsung Tocco

alansweeney100

Kinda have me heart set on getting one of these Samsung Tocco phones,
http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/Samsung/Tocco?lastPage=/mobile_phones/Pay_Monthly/Samsung
Of course trying to get info out of O2.ie is like gettin blood from a stone, no help! Doesn't seem to be a release date for them in Ireland.
Only other option at present seems to be a sim-free job
http://www.expansys.ie/p.aspx?i=163659
Not payin the guts of 500quid tho, don't want one that badly, I presume they spelt it wrong on expansys, they've called it a tocca instead of tocco, as far as I know it was a last minute name change by Samsung anyway so won't hold it against em.
Can anyone out there offer me any alternatives? Another place to buy, that is although I'll even take suggestions for a similar phone (except iphone)

Cheers,

Al

skywalker

I recently bought a k850i off ebay & saved quite a bit over the price on expansys. Its an option to consider. Make sure you select the right seller though & read all the fineprint.

alansweeney100

Yeh, should've mentioned I already tried ebay & amazon, Not a single one on there, its a new phone tho so mayb some will start to pop up on ebay as they become more available.

I tell a lie, I found one on amazon under samsung F480 (model no of samsung tocco) Only $650!

wheelp

apparently we're getting it 1 July, and it has gaeilge on it as a language
http://www.siliconrepublic.com/news/news.nv?storyid=single11131

alansweeney100

Good man wheelp! Strange that O2 told me that they had no plans to release this phone in Ireland..........

John Reavey

Nearly there! Vodafone have it on their June '08 brouchure, but not on the web site!!!:(

neilled

Its not a bad piece of kit. Since going home for the summer I've started working for o2 in northern ireland. We're doing the F-480 free on a £35 a month contract. God know what it will cost when O2 or Vodafone Ireland release it. I find it quite strange that vodafone are getting it - what with o2's history of stocking the Prada and Armani, one would have assumed that the f-480 was the next logial step!

alansweeney100

I bought a Tocco sim free on ebay yesterday, will be gettin it soon.
Samsung are now going to release a newer version of the Tocco already!
Samsung Omnia
http://www.t3.com/news/samsung-omnia---looks-just-like-the-tocco?=36018

It wil include wifi which the Tocco doesn't have

jimmycrackcorm

alansweeney100 wrote: »

I bought a Tocco sim free on ebay yesterday, will be gettin it soon.
Samsung are now going to release a newer version of the Tocco already!
Samsung Omnia
http://www.t3.com/news/samsung-omnia---looks-just-like-the-tocco?=36018

It wil include wifi which the Tocco doesn't have

Includes GPS - It's the iphone 3G that I never wanted to get from O2.

alansweeney100

Got my Samsung Tocco today off ebay and its locked to the Orange network despite it being advertised as unlocked, pain in d arse!
This site claims to be able to crack unlock codes and email them for £4
Is it worth a shot or should I just try and send it back for a refund?

Ah-Watch

neilled wrote: »

Its not a bad piece of kit. Since going home for the summer I've started working for o2 in northern ireland. We're doing the F-480 free on a £35 a month contract. God know what it will cost when O2 or Vodafone Ireland release it. I find it quite strange that vodafone are getting it - what with o2's history of stocking the Prada and Armani, one would have assumed that the f-480 was the next logial step!

Sher the armani is available on vodafone ireland!

Ah-Watch

alansweeney100 wrote: »

Got my Samsung Tocco today off ebay and its locked to the Orange network despite it being advertised as unlocked, pain in d arse!
This site claims to be able to crack unlock codes and email them for £4
Is it worth a shot or should I just try and send it back for a refund?

happened me with a stupid e65 locked to 3 UK that was "unlocked". I'd chance entering a code from that website, or try **** **** is €25 vs the website you've listed but **** is good enough. Chance entering two codes/one from each-if not horse it back to the seller "unused" as they had an incorrect listing!(ebay listing error)

sxt

Ah-Watch wrote: »

happened me with a stupid e65 locked to 3 UK that was "unlocked". I'd chance entering a code from that website, or try **** **** is €25 vs the website you've listed but **** is good enough. Chance entering two codes/one from each-if not horse it back to the seller "unused" as they had an incorrect listing!(ebay listing error)

**** is another new cash grabbing website from ****.You don't want to risk your phone with this crowd.

Firstly contact the person on ebay and wait for a response.They don't want you to give them a negative feedback,so its in their best interest to help you out in this matter.

kc66

I got a w880i off ebay which was advertised as unlocked but wasn't. Got onto the seller and they paid the €50 it cost to get it unlocked at the time.

alansweeney100

I got £20 off the one I bought it off for unlocking it. Seemed like a genuine mistake, she said she had tried other sims in it and they worked.
Tocco is a good phone,takes a while to get used to sending txts using a touch screen tho.
Newer (and more expensive) version of the Tocco is out soon, the samsung Omnia

irobmw

Try this to unlock it...

Put in a SIM from the network it's locked to

Power on and go to the dial screen

Enter #7465625*638*00000000#

Press 'Send' or 'Call'
The display will state Network Lock deactivated.


Dont try it more than twice if it doesn't work --- or it'll lock the phone out from ever being unlocked!!!

Boom Boom

Hi irobmw


There is a service on the vodafone website that allows to obtain an unlocking key if you are a vodafone customer logon and look for NACE you then enter the IMEI code and it gives you an unlock code.

I preume the other networks would have something similar.

hope this helps.

Lunabu

I fancy the Tocco myself and have been checking out eBay. There's a "reputable" seller who sells the Tocco unlocked.
Does anybody know if it works with the 3 network here? And if so, will I be able to use Skype and MSN Messenger if I buy a phone that doesn't come with these pre-installed?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

drunkmonkey

Lunabu wrote: »

I fancy the Tocco myself and have been checking out eBay. There's a "reputable" seller who sells the Tocco unlocked.
Does anybody know if it works with the 3 network here? And if so, will I be able to use Skype and MSN Messenger if I buy a phone that doesn't come with these pre-installed?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

You'd have some fun trying to get all the 3 apps running on it, I've the viewty on 3 and it's an great touch screen, works a treat on 3, there doing it now from free as an upgrade....might be worth a look.......don't see much difference between it and the tocco (except the inclusion of the Irish Language)

Lunabu

Thanks for your quick reply
If I did decide to go for it, would you assist me with some advice on how to get the 3 applications onto the phone?
I've had 1 1/2 years of "fun" with the 3 network with regard to their "broadband" modem and I'm trying to avoid their customer service as much as poss. :P I also reckon that they wouldn't have the answers to any software questions.
There's no desperate urgency as I'm going on hols on Wednesday (yippee!!!), but I will be looking into this again towards the autumn. Thanks!

drunkmonkey

3 support won't give you any help with the Tocco, they will only support their own phones...

I don't believe you will be able to get all the 3 apps running on it, some of them seem specialy built for the Viewty....you'd save yourself a lot of messing by just going with the LG instead of the Samsung..

Lunabu

Ah, that's a pity! I do like the Tocco though and was hoping it might be poss. to download the 3 applications to that phone. Maybe 3 themselves will have it in the future, but I don't feel like waiting for the off chance...
It would work with 3 though, wouldn't it? Apart from the applications maybe? I do have another good phone on 3 (the Nokia E65), so Skype wouldn't be a problem.

drunkmonkey

yea it should work on 3 no problem.....but what's wrong with the Viewty, I can't see much of a difference between them....both 5mp and both touch screens, and the viewty has all the apps you want built in....

Lunabu

Well, I was taking your advice on board and had a look at the specs of both and the comparisons. To be honest though, the Tocco appeals more to me than the Viewty plus the technology is several months newer. Taking into consideration that every new device we buy here is already obsolete (in Japan they are, believe, 2 years ahead of us technology-wise), I prefer to buy a newer phone if I spend this kind of money.
Will monitor the situation for a few weeks and then make a decision:rolleyes:

eposhea

Hi Guys,

i may be kinda off topic here, but this thread is being viewed and replied to more often than others on the Subject. this is first post to the site, so bear with me if i am posting to wrong thread. Regards the Samsung phones...does anyone know if the Samsung Omnia is coming out on Vodafone IRL? THe tocco has reduced in price dramatically (indicating they are trying to get ri of them before the Omnia comes out??!?) and Vodafone Uk have it in stock, just wondering if anyone knows if the Omnia is coming to ireland soon?

Cheers

Lunabu

I had a reply from the 3 Customer Service regarding my question:
The Tocco will be coming out on the 3 network in Ireland this autumn (End Sept/Early Oct) and is in the testing stages at the moment.
Reckon I'll wait till then

BanzaiBk

Hmm, gonna pick this or a N95 up today. Any thoughts from Tocco owners re: usability etc? Thanks.

kaizersoze

BanzaiBk wrote: »

Hmm, gonna pick this or a N95 up today. Any thoughts from Tocco owners re: usability etc? Thanks.

Got one for the missus last week and i'm impressed with it. She loves it which surprised me. She's not a gadget fan. Touch screen works well and it's quick, battery life is good and camera is excellent.

jahalpin

irobmw wrote: »

Try this to unlock it...

Put in a SIM from the network it's locked to

Power on and go to the dial screen

Enter #7465625*638*00000000#

Press 'Send' or 'Call'
The display will state Network Lock deactivated.


Dont try it more than twice if it doesn't work --- or it'll lock the phone out from ever being unlocked!!!

I got a Tocco from Vodafone the other day. I am very impressed with it. It's a nice phone and very gadgety

I tried the code supplied and it unlocked it no problem.

I've put my 3 sim into it and it is working perfectly.

As a side note, the Vodafone signal is far better and more reliable than 3, in the house I'm only getting one bar on 3, whereas I get 5 bars on Vodafone. The Vodafone signal is also far better around town, including the Jervis Centre which seems to be a 3 blackspot

Walkman

Lunabu wrote: »

Maybe 3 themselves will have it in the future,

Tocco will be out on 3 in 2 weeks.

Dr.Sanchez

Lunabu wrote: »

I had a reply from the 3 Customer Service regarding my question:
The Tocco will be coming out on the 3 network in Ireland this autumn (End Sept/Early Oct) and is in the testing stages at the moment.
Reckon I'll wait till then

Hi Lunabu, I work for Carphone Wearhouse and I also have the Tocco (unlocked) When it comes to security the 3 network tops them all, 3 sim card will only work in a 3 phone, even if the phone you have is unlocked, itll reject the sim unless its a 3 phone... but some cases it does work although the signal would be pretty rubbish... Trial and error really!!

god's toy

Hmm maybe I am reading this wrong, but did you say 3 sims only work in 3 phones?

Really?

So far all my phones (that were unlocked) worked no probs at all with three and with full signal. Even the phones I got on Ebay like the N95 and i900 work 100%

(yep you have to get MMS and WAP settings yourself but they did all work.


Not being smart ass here just kinda hope your wrong.

Dr.Sanchez

god's toy wrote: »

Hmm maybe I am reading this wrong, but did you say 3 sims only work in 3 phones?

Really?

So far all my phones (that were unlocked) worked no probs at all with three and with full signal. Even the phones I got on Ebay like the N95 and i900 work 100%

(yep you have to get MMS and WAP settings yourself but they did all work.


Not being smart ass here just kinda hope your wrong.

How old is your 3 sim card?...

As far as i know the newer models we got in store dont... Thats why we cant sell 3 sim cards over the counter, only the 3 store can...

Not the biggest fan of 3 anyway... horrible customer service... Their head office is in india and they read from the script so its sometimes hard to explain a problem to them

jimmycrackcorm

00Blaine00 wrote: »

Hi Lunabu, I work for Carphone Wearhouse and I also have the Tocco (unlocked) When it comes to security the 3 network tops them all, 3 sim card will only work in a 3 phone, even if the phone you have is unlocked, itll reject the sim unless its a 3 phone... but some cases it does work although the signal would be pretty rubbish... Trial and error really!!

That's really funny. I bought a 3 phone from you guys and guess what - you are right - the sim doesn't work in a non-3 phone and I returned it. Then I was advised to get a phone form 3 themselves, and lo and behold, that sim works in my non-3 phone.

I guess 3 doesn't trust you with their sims...!

Ah-Watch

Walkman wrote: »

Tocco will be out on 3 in 2 weeks.

saw it on the list when I was putting through broadband but couldn find it on the website, any idea how much till be?

god's toy

00Blaine00 wrote: »

How old is your 3 sim card?...

As far as i know the newer models we got in store dont... Thats why we cant sell 3 sim cards over the counter, only the 3 store can...

Not the biggest fan of 3 anyway... horrible customer service... Their head office is in india and they read from the script so its sometimes hard to explain a problem to them

I think what 'jimmycrackcorm' said is right, I also got my phone from three themselves (over the net). It was last year by the way. Could it be they use different sim security on shop sims?

Very happy I didn't buy it from a store now.

Walkman

00Blaine00 wrote: »

How old is your 3 sim card?...
Their head office is in india

I think you will find their headoffice is in Dublin not India. The sim you get with a phone and a sim you buy from the store are the same only the barcode on the back is different. The signal with a unlocked n95 or 3 branded n95 will be the same but you are right it will be trial and error as to what handsets the sim will work in. As a rule if the handset is on 3 and you have an unlocked version you will be ok for talk and text although all planet 3 services will not work as you need the 3 software on the handset for all applications to work.

god's toy

Planet three works fine, you just have to put the address in yourself and save as your homepage.

It's things like 3's Skype and MSN/windows messenger that sometimes dont work on non branded phones.

Even my web add on (1GB for €10) works super on my Samsung i900.

goodgodholmes

Tocco is only 49 euro on O2 when you sign up to bill pay (which can be as little as 15 quid a month on some plans!)... actually I think it's free in September.

I just started working at O2 today, was shocked!

I'll be getting me one of those...

drunkmonkey

goodgodholmes wrote: »

Tocco is only 49 euro on O2 when you sign up to bill pay (which can be as little as 15 quid a month on some plans!)... actually I think it's free in September.

I just started working at O2 today, was shocked!

I'll be getting me one of those...

I hope you enjoy the free Tocco on your €15 plan, it'll be a long long time before you get another phone out of 02.......i'll probably have 3 upgrades before you even get one.....;)

Just for the record, 02 are a rip and there ****e for data plans, welcome to the Jungle Kid:D

alansweeney100

Is there a firmware update for the Tocco on the way or already out?

BaZmO*

I got a Tocco for €49 the other by switching to Vodafone from O2, it's only a 12 month contract too which ain't bad.


Does anybody know how I set up the internet on the phone? I got a data bundle with my package but when I try to connect to the internet it just says "Service Unavailable"

drunkmonkey

00Blaine00 wrote: »

Hi Lunabu, I work for Carphone Wearhouse and I also have the Tocco (unlocked) When it comes to security the 3 network tops them all, 3 sim card will only work in a 3 phone, even if the phone you have is unlocked, itll reject the sim unless its a 3 phone

I don't know who told you that but it's complete Rubbish....

A sim is a sim, there are no magic sims out there that know if your using a 3 phone or not, If a 3G phone is unlocked, chances are a 3 sim will work in it. If it's a 2G phone the sim is unlikely to work but still can the odd time.....

Ah-Watch

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I don't know who told you that but it's complete Rubbish....

A sim is a sim, there are no magic sims out there that know if your using a 3 phone or not, If a 3G phone is unlocked, chances are a 3 sim will work in it. If it's a 2G phone the sim is unlikely to work but still can the odd time.....

+1
3 use certain sims (USIM) that normally only work in a 3G phone- but this should work in an unlocked 3G phone and the odd 2G as Drunkmonkey has stated already

drunkmonkey

Ah-Watch wrote: »

+1
3 use certain sims (USIM) that normally only work in a 3G phone- but this should work in an unlocked 3G phone and the odd 2G as Drunkmonkey has stated already

Carphone employees, don't you just love 'em:D

Ah-Watch

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Carphone employees, don't you just love 'em:D

Ah bless they try though:P!

alansweeney100

Just to let you fellow Tocco owners know, you can upgrade your firmware yourselves, I've done so following the instructions on this excellent thread;

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=573699

I'm now using F480XEHJ1
If you want to check your current version, type *#1234#
My new version has more wigets and less dropped calls.
It also supposedly has better picture quality and faster menus but I have noticed no change in these.

wheresmybeaver

alansweeney100 wrote: »

Just to let you fellow Tocco owners know, you can upgrade your firmware yourselves, I've done so following the instructions on this excellent thread;

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=573699

I'm now using F480XEHJ1
If you want to check your current version, type *#1234#
My new version has more wigets and less dropped calls.
It also supposedly has better picture quality and faster menus but I have noticed no change in these.

If you do your own firmware upgrade on an imported tocco, watch out; if it was unlocked and then sold to you, then flashing a new firmware can potentially relock the phone to the original sim card. I'm holding off on flashing my wife's tocco until I know more (it was unlocked in Singapore then sold on to me).

alansweeney100

Hi Beaver, never heard that before. When you flash your phone you must remove the sim, its all explained in the GSM forums. My phone was bought on ebay from the UK, it was locked to the orange network. I got it unlocked in Dublin city.
I forgot to mention as well that by flashing new firmware, you 'debrand' your phone which gets rid of all those annoying mobile phone providers (in my case orange) graphics/logos popping up when you turn on your phone.

nialldinho

alansweeney100 wrote: »

I forgot to mention as well that by flashing new firmware, you 'debrand' your phone which gets rid of all those annoying mobile phone providers (in my case orange) graphics/logos popping up when you turn on your phone.

I've never done this before so just want to check is it just the branding that goes? Do i need to get vodafone live settings etc again?

alansweeney100

My MMS and sms and internet settings were all fine after the the flash. I'm on O2.
Instead of the vodafone branding, it will just say samsung after turning on the phone after the flash, thats the only thing that should change.