32" TV for PS3

AIR-AUSSIE

I'm looking to buy a 32" tv for use with my PS3. And I was wondering if anyone could give some advice or recommendations?

I was thinking Sony, Samsung or Panasonic

I've been looking at the Sony kdl32d3000 for £716 pound from amazon.

Any help would be much appreciated. thanks

guil

i have the panasonic viera tx32le7l bought it last june for €1000 and i find it great for playin the ps3

projectmayhem

i just bought a 40" samsung and would definitely recommend the new 32" samsung series 4 tv... though i imagine it's more expensive then the sony

TheAmateur

This thread here might be of help to you. That Sony is a nice TV though, and imho is one of the best 32" TV's out there at the moment. I actually just got a 32" Samsung (info's in that thread actually) that I'm really happy with. Have a look at http://www.samsyerman.co.uk (based in the North) and some of the sites mentioned in that thread. Any questions and I'll try to help.
EDIT: Hey, just looked at Samsyerman myself and they have your Sony for €847, dunno what shipping's like but I reckon that beats Amazon.

jaydeluxe

Bought the Sony 32D3000 two weeks ago and it's a stunner. Most PS3 games are 720p so the fact that the TV isn't Full HD resolution isn't that important.

Highly recommended.

AnCapaillMor

Gone through 2 samsungs myself, a 27" then a 32" and had little or no problems. If i had the space i would've gone 37" to get 1080P.

hughes2558

I also found the Panasonics to be the best lcd on the market. I have this one from komplett http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=348872 1080p too although people say you wont see the difference in 720p and 1080p until you go into bigger size sets.

AIR-AUSSIE

I have found a Panasonic 32" I like the look of it think its more expensive them a Sony, but i would like if someone could help me with a comparsion plz.
Panasonic TX32LZD85

Seems to be about 1000pounds seems brand new only reviewed by HDTVorg.co.uk this month.

http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/lcd/panasonic_tx32lxd700.htm

mathias

I have found a Panasonic 32" I like the look of it think its more expensive them a Sony, but i would like if someone could help me with a comparsion plz.
Panasonic TX32LZD85

Seems to be about 1000pounds seems brand new only reviewed by HDTVorg.co.uk this month.

http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/lcd...tx32lxd700.htm

You know those are two very different TV's there right ?

The TX32LZD85 is a full HD 32 inch , or 1920 x 1080 native res ,

The TX 32LXD700 in the review though , is an older model and is 1366 x 768 native res.

They are both excellent TV's , however the TX32LZD85 is the later and more sophisticated model !

And for the record , either of those Panasonics would wipe the floor with the best of the Sony's.

AIR-AUSSIE

Sorry my mistake, I meant the Panasonic TX32LZD85 I copied and pasted the wrong name.


Just looking, it seems to be more expensive, about 750pounds (950euro) excl. shipping. Thats if i can find a seller to deliver to Ireland. Would maybe prefer to buy it in an actual shop, if it wasnt too much more expensive.

Not bad still if what you say is true and it is a top of the range TV.

I don't really know much about TVs so could you enlightenment on why Panasonics are so much better - mags seem to say the same thing. I have heard that Sonys work better with PS3s (not sure if this is true).

Do you own a Panasonic? If you have what is your experience with it?

I plan to use mine with my PS3, prob connect my laptop and watch blu-rays and DVDs.

Would you recommend any reliable websites TV. As many people on this forum seem to be weary of online shopping, which electric shops are best for TVs; Harvey Norman, Power City and the like or would a smaller shop be better...

mathias

I have heard that Sonys work better with PS3s (not sure if this is true).

I dont know where you heard that but its nonsense , Sony were top of the range back in CRT ancient history , their Wega TV's were rightly regarded as one of the best and they gambled that flat screens would not take over that quickly , they lost that gamble and the result was they started flat screen TV's very late and are still way behind the pack.

Sony flatscreens are average at best , and prop themselves up with ropey interpolation technology.

Panasonic are probably number 2 for quality when it comes to flatscreens , Pioneer are the best Ive seen but have huge price tags , Ive had a panasonic now for 2 years and am very very happy with it , picture quality for SD and HD are superb.

I run a little sideline installing screens in boardrooms and bars and the like , and get to see a lot of screens , this is what Im basing my opinions on by the way.

As regards to shops where are you based ?

AIR-AUSSIE

Thanks your advice is very helpful. You know a lot more then me anyway, I'm only slowly getting to terms with all the jargon and buzz words that most companies use.

Yeah I have heard that Panasonic were the best, at least in my price range, Sony however seem to go for the hard sell to sell their products.

Whats your opinion on 1080p, is it worth going for? It seems the PS3 games mostly are 720p but are upscaled if a TV supports 1080p. But I think Blu-rays are 1080p. Games for the PS3 in the future may support 1080p i guess. But would it be better to 'future-proof' my investment if you will by going for 1080p

I'm working over in London currently for a couple of months but I live in Drogheda but spend a lot of time in Dublin so most shops should be available to me.

AIR-AUSSIE

On a different note, is it possible to put a 32" TV onto a partition wall in a house? Its probably a stupid question...

r3nu4l

I have the Panasonic TX32LXD70 and it rocks. It's an excellent TV, with built-in Freeview receiver (useful while you are living in the UK) and uses 100MHz technology so the TV displays fast motion in games quite fluidly.

No complaints at all.

Creamy Goodness

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

On a different note, is it possible to put a 32" TV onto a partition wall in a house? Its probably a stupid question...

i'd doubt it, you'd want the bracket to be screwed into concrete at least.

AIR-AUSSIE

So the Panasonic TX32LZD85 ( newer model, it seems) should be even better hopefully.

Here's a extract from a Vogel Mounting Instruction Manual:

Correct installation is extremely essential, and falls outside the scope of responsibility of Vogel’s.

The fastening material provided is exclusively intended for installation on walls made of solid wood, bricks, concrete or solid-wood columns with a maximum 3mm wall finishing. For walls made of other materials, for example hollow bricks, please consult your installer and/or specialist supplier.

Maximum weight of LCD/plasma screen: 30 kg / 66 lbs.

During installation, please also follow the instructions for installation
use of the apparatus to be installed/fixed (for example the LCD/plasma screen).

I'm not sure it would have to be concrete, sure not all houses have concrete walls....

Anyone have any experience hanging a TV on a partition, my 18" CRT TV is hanging from it at the mo. OK it probably doesn't weigh as much as a 32" flat screen but it is further away then a flat screen would be.

byte

You'd be able to mount on a partition wall, as long as the bracket is secured to the studs/wooden columns. The plasterboard itself probably won't be fit to sustain the weight of the TV.

AIR-AUSSIE

OK yea i was sorta thinking the same thing. What would the spacing of the of the studs be about 500mm? Or 3foot or something (its an old house).

What would be the best way to find a stud without breaking out some plasterboard?

Seems lik if I can afford it I'l be going for the Panasonic TX32LZD85. Can't wait.

Are these types of TVs good to use as monitors for PCs too, or does it look funny?

brian plank

you should look at lg. i got 37" a year ago for €1000 and their down to around 800 now. the picture and sound are perfect.

trying to hang the tv on a partition is just asking for trouble too. they do weigh around 25 kg!

D/C

check out the new sony 32" on the market! It's the KDL32w4000! Its 1080p!

Very good tv, probally the best on the market imho

works out at €1149

byte

I believe Panasonic are bringing back their 5-year guarantee offer on selected models, which might be worth considering, if the model you want is included.

EDIT, just noticed that the offer is already out:
http://www.allianceelectric.ie/plasmalcd.htm#panasonic

mathias

Are these types of TVs good to use as monitors for PCs too, or does it look funny?

They work fine as screens for PC's , a DVI - HDMI cable is all thats needed , or if your PC has a HDMI even better.

I have mine hooked up to a HTPC , the graphics a pin sharp and the other half can surf the net from the couch when she feels like it.

Obviously this is another good reason to go for the Full HD screen , as you will see more content on the screen when using it as a computer display.

AIR-AUSSIE

Thanks Mathias for the advice. seems it would be a good investment anyway.

Right still looking at the Panasonic really and a 5yr guarantee would be sweet.

How would the Sony KDL32w4000 compare to the Panasonic TX32LZD85.

It would be worth my while trying to get the most recent released TV as it would the most up-to-date technology and would future proof my purchase at least as much as possible.

But if hanging the TV from a partition isn't a good idea that might be a problem as I sorta need to do that as otherwise I'd have to keep it on my desk which would leave me with nowhere to work/study.

Has anyone any experience with hanging TVs on a partition wall? And if this was a problem would there be any way to solve it? Obviously without reinforcing the wall or knocking it down...

AIR-AUSSIE

byte wrote: »

I believe Panasonic are bringing back their 5-year guarantee offer on selected models.

EDIT, just noticed that the offer is already out:
http://www.allianceelectric.ie/plasmalcd.htm#panasonic

I've never heard of AllianceElectric how are reliable are they? The TV I'm looking at is a bit more expensive then amazon on their website, but hang on I don't think amazon deliver TVs to Ireland do they?

mathias

Alliance are well known on the boards here , especially over in the HE section , nice bunch of guys and well worth dropping in to the shop on Georges st.

Regarding hanging the set on Plasterboard , Ive seen it done but it will need to be re-inforced in at least a basic way , Try mounting a piece of wood about a 3/4 the size of the TV to the plasterboard using multiple fixing points , Im talking at least 6 each side , and use proper plasterboard fixings , the type that flare out and grab the inside of the plasterboard , then use an X Y type mount to mount the TV on the wood.

This will distribute the weight / force of the TV over more points on the wall than it would normally be if you just used the bracket.

Forget about any kind of extendable arm mount when the wall is plasterboard , it wont work

AIR-AUSSIE

mathias wrote: »

Regarding hanging the set on Plasterboard , Ive seen it done but it will need to be re-inforced in at least a basic way , Try mounting a piece of wood about a 3/4 the size of the TV to the plasterboard using multiple fixing points , Im talking at least 6 each side , and use proper plasterboard fixings , the type that flare out and grab the inside of the plasterboard , then use an X Y type mount to mount the TV on the wood.

This will distribute the weight / force of the TV over more points on the wall than it would normally be if you just used the bracket.

Sounds like an interesting solution, but it would mean the TV would stick out quite far, right? Prob about 200mm?

Thing is the TV would be in a position where you would have a clear side view from the other side of the hall (outside my room) so I think a big plank of wood behind the TV would be the solution. I really should find out exactly what type of wall it is unfortunately that might not be for 2 wks.

Its a good idea, probably won't for my room. So is it odd to hang a 32" from a partition wall?

I'm planning on having the TV approx. 1m off the floor, above a desk. I need the desk for work.

mathias

I'm planning on having the TV approx. 1m off the floor, above a desk. I need the desk for work.

In which case why not look at column support systems , which would seem to suit better for your particular install , These basically have a pole ( which also hides all the wires ) with an X Y type mount on it and a base with optional platforms for av gear ! You can see them on the Vogel website.

AIR-AUSSIE

Ah right, I was thinking about them but I thought the vertical pole wasn't structural, just to hide cables.

Would they be high enough though? the bottom of the tv would be about 1m above the ground.


Here is a possible contender, although it is a bit expensive £159

http://www.amazon.co.uk/VESA-LCD-TV-floor-stand/dp/B000UULYW8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1211992966&sr=8-5

but I guess it would be supporting over a grand worth of LCD TV, wouldn't wanna chance dropping my TV just cos I wanted to save some euros.

Apparently the studs (verticals) in my partition wall are at approx. 12inches spacing and the house was built about 28yrs ago if that makes a difference (I wonder is there any builder out there who tell me how sturdy a partition wall would have been used).

Apparently there are two types of plasterboard 12mm thick and 15mm thick - 15mm thick can support TVs but the other can't.

Currently my 16" CRT TV is supported by a stud while hanging about 500mm from the wall.

So how much wall connections would a flat wall mount have and could I connect to just plasterboard for the middle connections or something say if the other connections were to the studs.

Or maybe rather then 3X4 planks I could use some form of thinner steel beams....

Am I complicating this too much? Should I just try and connect to the studs as wall mount seem to be cheaper?

AIR-AUSSIE

It seems according to the following, I can mount the TV as long as it is to Studs.

• To safely and securely mount your TV to the wall, you'll need to drill the bracket into wooden studs. After you've chosen your ideal TV mount location, use a high-quality stud finder to locate nearby studs. We recommend using one that can tell you where the exact center of each stud is, to ensure that your TV is securely mounted. Mark each stud with a pencil or masking tape.
• If your stud finder can't tell you where the center of the stud is, you'll need to figure it out manually. Once you've chosen which studs you're going to use, verify where each stud is located using an awl or thin nail. Hammer the nail into the wall partially until you hit the stud, then pull it out, move it about 1/4" to the side, and repeat until you only hit drywall. Do the same in the other direction. Then, find the middle of the stud by measuring the distance between the two drywall-only holes. Mark it — you'll want to mount the bracket on that middle line.
• Verify that the mounting holes in the bracket line up with the center of the studs.
• Always use a level to verify that the bracket is level before securing it to the wall. Follow the mounting directions in the owner's manual. Have your helper keep it stable while you screw it into the wall to make sure it stays level.
• Verify that the bracket is level before mounting the TV. It's much easier to make changes now than after the TV's on the wall.
• Note: Brick, solid concrete, and concrete block mounting — Not all brackets are mountable on concrete or brick, and only some will include the appropriate hardware. You may need to order additional materials from the manufacturer or purchase some supplies from your local hardware store, such as concrete wall anchors. Be sure to follow the instructions in the owner's manual.
• Note: Metal studs — If your house has metal studs, you should not wall-mount your TV. Most metal studs are too weak to support that much weight.

So good news I guess.

AIR-AUSSIE

Right I'm currently looking for somewhere to buy a Panasonic TX32LZD85 32" LCD somewhere, preferably in an actual shop but would go the online route if the site was reliable.

Imo I should be able to get one for 1000euro - or as on alliance for 1200 with a 5yr warranty.
(http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/tx32lz85.htm)

Any advice on where to buy would be much appreciated. Thanks

Creamy Goodness

nothing wrong with alliance's actual walk-in store, it's where i bought my panasonic.

they guys know their stuff, something i really respect in a shop.

BagelBytes

Got a Samsung 32" for 699 - absolutely perfect.

AIR-AUSSIE

BagelBytes wrote: »

Got a Samsung 32" for 699 - absolutely perfect.

Could you elaborate on what model and where plz?

Think I like the idea of a 5year warranty though - and it is apparently the best 32" tv in my price range.

BagelBytes

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Could you elaborate on what model and where plz?

Can't remember the exact model off the top of my head, it has 3 HDMI ports, VGA port for PC, up to 1080i, Game Mode (looks great turned on for PS3).

I got it for 699 in Soundstore, Waterford couple of months back.

AIR-AUSSIE

BagelBytes wrote: »

Can't remember the exact model off the top of my head, it has 3 HDMI ports, VGA port for PC, up to 1080i, Game Mode (looks great turned on for PS3).

I got it for 699 in Soundstore, Waterford couple of months back.

Thanks man will look into it.

Creamy Goodness

panny panels are the best around man.

seriously walk into alliance and look at the pannys after being in a harvey normans looking at the other brands and if you come out saying you can't tell a difference, produce a hat, and i will eat it.

noodler

If I only want a min of 20' and just one Hdmi port then what would ppl reccommend?

I prefer cheap

Zonda999

http://www.richersounds.ie/asp/product.asp?objectid=938&mode=0&categoryid=6&sub=44&productid=710&c=1

This one looks alrite

noodler

Woah you ain't wrong. I don't know too much about the stats, anyone wanna comment on it?

Looks a beaut for the price.

Zonda999

I've got a similiar one(a 19").I bought about a year ago and its excellent.Its a combination of monitor and tv and its great for gaming.These have a quicker response time that a normal tv so its all the better for gaming.This one looks like a tv rather than a monitor as well.Hve a look here:

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=itbusiness&type=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS20PMASF/EDC

noodler

That link is to the smae tv as the last one.

Beauty alright, can't find it anywhere cheaper than richersounds.

AIR-AUSSIE

Update: Don't think I shall be buying the Panasonic for a while as my finances aren't the best at the mo ( going back to college and what not) :mad: :mad:

So I was thinking maybe I could just buy a monitor, maybe 22 - 26" to work with my PS3 and laptop for my bedroom and then when I get a 32" TV use it with my desktop.

If I was to buy a monitor what should I consider?

Can you get HD Ready ones? How big should I go? I wouldn't really wanna spend any more then maybe 200euro certainly not more then 300euro.

Was thinking maybe something like these...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SM245B-5ms-Black-Monitor/dp/B000PJ074A/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1217250228&sr=1-9

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SM226CW-Widescreen-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B000U7REI4/ref=sr_1_48?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1217250261&sr=1-48

These are prob out of my budget but just to give an idea what I'd like..

I'd want to hook up my PS3 and Laptop to it.
Any recommendations would be much appreciated.

AIR-AUSSIE

Anybody out there to give me some advice?

Flaccus

I just bought the Sony 32W4000. Pricey for a 32" 1080P set when 42"s can be got for same price. But it's the best TV I have ever had. And I have had Panasonic, Samsung and Sharp. First thing I noticed was the blacks, really dark, no baclkight bleed I could tell (every tv I have had has some), and no stuck/dead pixels (I know it's luck of the draw here). Sound is pretty decent too. No need for speakers in the interim (this LCD is in the bedroom for gaming and blu ray). Overall I am very happy with the image and sound quality. Build quality is very good too. Bezel seems more solid then the Sharp Aquous I had, and is finished very nicely. The finish does not seem to attract marks/swirl lines when cleaning like the Sharp and Samsung piano black do.

The minus's I found are No 100hz motion compensation but I find movies using this look like doumentaries and I wouldn't use it anyway, and from what I have read this introduces input lag in games (though helps with smearing). To be honest I can't see any smearing/ghosting playing Grid on PS3. PS3 games look and play really well. And Blu Ray looks astounding.

It gets a good writeup here
http://whathifi.com/Review/Sony-KDL-32W4000/

and here
http://www.digitalversus.com/article-364-3411-16.html

If you are a gamer this might also be interesting for you. These guys review the 40" version which has the WCG-CCFL screen (compared to the CCFL on the 32").

"We measured the input lag on the Sony KDL40W4000 to be 30ms better/ faster than our resident Samsung F96 reference, meaning that it's probably on par with a CRT (as good as it gets). Now we know why Sony didn't bother including a [Game Mode] in the user menu... there's simply no need."

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL40W4000/Picture-Quality/

whereas the Samsung which seems to be a popular choice over on AVForums, and supports 100hz motion compensation doesn't do as well with gaming :

"Here's the not-so-good news: even with [100Hz Motion Plus] disabled, we measured input lag on the LE40A656 to be 30ms slower than our resident Samsung F96, which means that it's up to 60ms slower than the Sony W4000. While most people will not be affected by this, sensitive gamers will probably experience this input lag in games demanding sharp reflexes. We certainly did: in Call Of Duty 4 somehow we were unable to nail as many headshots on the Samsung LE40A656"

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/Picture-Quality.htm

AIR-AUSSIE

Thanks for the sweet advice, but unfortunately d ould monies is gonna take a hit coming to back to college.

So I have had to have a rethink - so i'm gettting a monitor 22" preferrably - HD would be nice to take advantage of my PS3. Any recommendations?

Dues Bellator

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

I'm looking to buy a 32" tv for use with my PS3. And I was wondering if anyone could give some advice or recommendations?

I was thinking Sony, Samsung or Panasonic

I've been looking at the Sony kdl32d3000 for £716 pound from amazon.

Any help would be much appreciated. thanks

air-aussie sup bud, if your around dublin petes in rathmines are doing 32" sonys for 699. id go for the 42" panasonic for 799 myself pic is like wow.

AIR-AUSSIE

almanu wrote: »

air-aussie sup bud, if your around dublin petes in rathmines are doing 32" sonys for 699. id go for the 42" panasonic for 799 myself pic is like wow.

Thanks for the reply man, but as I'm sort of short on cash and can't really know how much money I'm gonna spend next year I'm sorta thinking of getting a HD Ready Monitor to use with my PS3 and laptop to bridge the gap to when I get a large TV. Was thinking maybe a 22" monitor.

I still contemplating as it may be a bit pointless.... and just wasting more money to buy a monitor. The more I think about it the more I think it will. Unless someone can advise me one a cheap one.

I'm still in London at the mo n won't be back till mid august so can't look at them..

Dues Bellator

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Thanks for the reply man, but as I'm sort of short on cash and can't really know how much money I'm gonna spend next year I'm sorta thinking of getting a HD Ready Monitor to use with my PS3 and laptop to bridge the gap to when I get a large TV. Was thinking maybe a 22" monitor.

I still contemplating as it may be a bit pointless.... and just wasting more money to buy a monitor. The more I think about it the more I think it will. Unless someone can advise me one a cheap one.

I'm still in London at the mo n won't be back till mid august so can't look at them..

MONITOR BAD TIMES, theres not much point mate since there expensive for what they are, if your restrained by the wallet theres no better time to buy, prices are falling tru the floor, resession and all that panic, if you can stup up 400 euros i can recomend a big array of lcd,s and plasmas that are hd ready and 1080p let me know exactly what specs you want what cash you have and what you can strech to and ill list dealers and brands for you , no worries, oh it will be probely cheaper again before you return to the best country in the world again,if you have been in london you might get a shock if you get a HELLO lol.

AIR-AUSSIE

almanu wrote: »

return to the best country in the world again,if you have been in london you might get a shock if you get a HELLO lol.

NO truer words said.

Anywhu I'll get back to you aboot a budget soon but i'd say prob no more then 600euro might be able to squeeze to 800.

With connection for laptop and sweet screen for PS3 and movies. 32" TV me thinks, any bigger wouldn't fit in my room.

I'd like Full HD but I'm sure if that makes a difference for a screen so small

Dues Bellator

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

NO truer words said.

Anywhu I'll get back to you aboot a budget soon but i'd say prob no more then 600euro might be able to squeeze to 800.

With connection for laptop and sweet screen for PS3 and movies. 32" TV me thinks, any bigger wouldn't fit in my room.

I'd like Full HD but I'm sure if that makes a difference for a screen so small

it would make a diff all right, i got a smart little 32 inch 1080 p samsung for my attic it was 699 got it for 599 i bought a 50" off the guy 2 weeks before and done a deal with me, the 32 has the lot.id reckon it would be at the price i got it for when you get back mate.

Niall0

almanu wrote: »

if you can stup up 400 euros i can recomend a big array of lcd,s and plasmas that are hd ready and 1080p .

What can you get for that money?