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Vegetable oil

mondeo · 2008-05-22 17:02:52

Hi, Anyone attempt to run vegetable oil in their diesal. I have my megane outside and I'm very tempted since I paid 1.37 per L of diesal today:eek:. It's a relatively old Renault megane I'm driving so I'd like to experiment. Saying that it's my only form of transport so I can't afford to ruin the engine either. Cheers

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#32 23-05-2008 1:24pm
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JimmyCrackCorn! wrote: »

Price of a bag of chips is going to go up .:(

Nah...they just won't be as greasy!

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#33 23-05-2008 1:27pm
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The price of a bag o chips should come done in theory (but it'll never happen as well all know!)

reason being is that the chipper will now get to sell off it old used oil, thus make money from it - before they had to dispose of it themselves..........now in this new eco friendly age, its going to be of some value to them and a small revenue stream.

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#34 23-05-2008 2:07pm
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JimmyCrackCorn! wrote: »

Price of a bag of chips is going to go up now two.:rolleyes:
I hate it when the hippies are right.:(

there there, nobody likes it

mondeo wrote: »

Highest I have heard so far

Topaz Lucan village, Ive seen 1.39 in Maynooth so its an unusual price

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#35 23-05-2008 5:24pm
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andreas_220D wrote: »

You don't have to change the seals for PPO. You need to change them if you want to run on Biodiesel.

If you run a car older than 1993, otherwise you dont have to do anything:

http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/Materials_Compatibility.pdf

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#36 23-05-2008 5:52pm
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Matt Simis wrote: »

If you run a car older than 1993, otherwise you dont have to do anything

Thanks for the update.

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#37 23-05-2008 7:04pm
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andreas_220D wrote: »

You don't have to change the seals for PPO. You need to change them if you want to run on Biodiesel.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2004136_vegetable-oil-fuel.html Yes you do need to change the seals when using veg oil as the fuel pump is under more pressure pumping thicker oil as a result it pumps faster putting pressure on the seals.

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#38 23-05-2008 7:07pm
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Eurorunner wrote: »

Ref. the seals - Is this expensive to do? do you think that with a bosch fuel pump, and swapping the seals - if I decide to buy this diesel for small money .ie 1500 euro (00 seat inca 1.9D with 120k miles), its worth the punt without the expense of conversion??

Conversion right now just cannot be justified as far as i can see..

It isn't expensive to change the seals. The labour is the biggest cost.

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#39 23-05-2008 8:11pm
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Thinning the oil out with the use of petrol is what some guys are doing, or with the use of keroscene, would that not prevent having to change all the oil seals?

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#40 23-05-2008 11:22pm
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Sam Kade wrote: »

http://www.ehow.com/how_2004136_vegetable-oil-fuel.html Yes you do need to change the seals when using veg oil as the fuel pump is under more pressure pumping thicker oil as a result it pumps faster putting pressure on the seals.

Not a word about pump pressures in that article. And the asserton in that article that vegetable oil acts as a solvent for rubber is not true. It's Biodiesel which solves rubber.

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#41 23-05-2008 11:23pm
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mondeo wrote: »

Thinning the oil out with the use of petrol is what some guys are doing, or with the use of keroscene, would that not prevent having to change all the oil seals?

Again, if you have rubber seals, you only need to change them if you want to run on Biodiesel. PPO does NOT act as a rubber sovent.

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#42 24-05-2008 12:06am
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andreas_220D wrote: »

Again, if you have rubber seals, you only need to change them if you want to run on Biodiesel. PPO does NOT act as a rubber sovent.

Are you running a diesel car with ppo as you seem very sure that ppo doesn't damage seals? Could you print a link to back up your statement?

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#43 24-05-2008 12:26am
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Drive an 04 mondeao chia tdci put 50 euro a week in used to 35 to 40 . will putting a third veggie oil with some additave like redex work

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#44 24-05-2008 12:29am
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Sam Kade wrote: »

Are you running a diesel car with ppo as you seem very sure that ppo doesn't damage seals? Could you print a link to back up your statement?

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#45 24-05-2008 10:57am
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Just to clarify again, the solvent question is entirely irrelevant for the vast majority of cars on the road as they are newer than 15years old (1993).

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#46 24-05-2008 1:53pm
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Does anyone have a link to a complete bio diesel filtering kit? Curious as to what it costs for a complete kit.

How easy is it to secure supply? What are most fast food businesses doing with their waste oil at the moment??

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http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=285676&page=13

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#48 25-05-2008 7:13pm
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http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=285676&page=13

Thanks for that. Made for interesting reading.

How difficult is it to secure waste veggie oil supply? Are most take aways/restaurants already having it collected by someone?

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#49 25-05-2008 8:47pm
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babyjames wrote: »

Drive an 04 mondeao chia tdci put 50 euro a week in used to 35 to 40 . will putting a third veggie oil with some additave like redex work

NO

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#50 25-05-2008 8:50pm
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Whats the story with tax and duty? If you get dipped by customs and are running on veg oil will you not get fined for not having paid duty on yout fuel?

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#51 25-05-2008 11:25pm
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Being caught running on veg oil without having proof that you paid for the necessary conversion is the same as running on agri diesel. Also, PPO supplier would not sell me oil without copy of invoice for conversion. He also recorded reg number of vehicle. I'm looking forward to being dipped and see how it goes..

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#52 26-05-2008 11:51am
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Jomcc wrote: »

Being caught running on veg oil without having proof that you paid for the necessary conversion is the same as running on agri diesel.

My understanding was that they will ask for receipts as their interest in it is if you have paid duty?
They have no interest in whether vehicle has conversion or otherwise as SVO or biodiesel are legitimate fuels.

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#53 26-05-2008 12:59pm
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I was of the opinion that I did not pay duty........and the supplier was only allwed to sell it to me without duty if I could show him receipt that kit had been purchased. I'd love to see the actual position written down in black and white.

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#54 28-05-2008 2:14pm
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i heard adding a small drop of white spirits per fill keeps d engine running better, youtube top gear and veg fuel, they ran a car on it. I know a lad dat runs a car on used veg oil frm chippers etc n car seems 2 b running grand, its a low 90's vw jetta, i know of him for couple of years and hes had same car so his engine must be ok

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#55 28-05-2008 4:01pm
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Careful of the down the pub tales...........LOL - These stories are great......i know a lad........and i see him @ mass the odd time.......he drives a 1992 golf and runs it on cow manure blah blah blah blah

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