problems setting up playstation online

Indie18

hey i'm am putting this thread up because my cousin is having trouble setting up his wireless connection with his ps3. just wondering if anybody has any idea as to why.

ongarite

What ISP provider does he use? What make, model router? Is PS3 connected by NAT2 or NAT3?

Indie18

i think his isp is eircom.

donkey 2002

having this problem myself especially with GTA and it says Im using NAT 3 no matter if it is wireless or ethernet does anyone have any solutions or links to ideas to fix this problem

Damien360

This was originally posted on boards by eioneill on 11-2-08. I used this and it worked a treat. I am aware that there are more UDP and TCP addresses required for COD4 and a few others but this should get you started.

You need your SSID, WPA/WEP key, an IP address in the router range, DNS 1 and 2 addresses. Give the PS3 a static IP, it does not matter that the router uses DHCP, it will override this. Create custom services for each UDP and TCP ports and then enable them for this IP address. It is the same basic setup for the eircom netopia router or any other type available. Just be aware of your IP range for the router in question.

I did this only last Saturday and it took about a half hour

Hope this helps

Damien

PSNID muchtooold3




Guide to Nat type 2

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Folks I robbed this off some other site. Used the guide to set up both mine and my brothers routers. Fairly straight forward.

hey guys, heres a guide to having absolutley FLAWLESS ps3 online, very important parts shall have an asterix (*) to the left hand side of the post,
i shall also give brief explanations of why youre doing these things, and what they actually DO:

basically your ps3 connection has a NAT type , this basically says how your connection to your router is, TYPE 1 means its directly connected to the internet so its perfect, TYPE 3 means it can connect to the internet but the connection isnt perfect/very laggy, a result of this is not being able to go into chat rooms, ea nation games not working etc. well we try to get NAT type 2 which is wirelessly connected to the internet , but perfectly connected here we go!!



*give your ps3 a static ip address*
*okay this isnt too complicated, see every time a router gets accessed by a device (ps3, desktop, laptop etc.) it assignes it an ip address randomly depending on who logs in first,

on ps3
disable the media server function in 'network settings'
do an 'automatic' network connection and see if nat type 3 comes up at the end, if so, were on track

we need our ps3 to have an ip address that isnt given out randomly, as we will need it to have the same address,so you write down a new ip address, say 192.168.1.150 we use .150 because you probably will never have 150 devices on your router at any given time!

*find out our internets ip details*
i had awful guff with this online because bad wording of ip addresses and such was used , SO I WILL MAKE THIS CLEAR

*run a command prompt, on your desktop click 'start'-'run'-'cmd' in the command prompt , type ipconfig/all and click 'enter'

*now, write down the numbers for these addresses: IP GATEWAY,DNS SERVER 1, DNS SERVER 2 they will be used later on.

*fiddling with your router*(in the good way!)
*okay , now we are going to open some ports on your netopia router, DONT WORRY ITS NOT DANGEROUS, because we will only let these ports be opened when your ps3 'asks for them' so to speak, and considering your ps3 doesnt get viruses, you are safe!

*in your internet address bar type in your 'IP GATEWAY' you just got from the command prompt, just the numbers and dots, no need for a 'www' or any of that! on netopia routers the gateway is generally 192.168.1.254 so i will use that for now.

type 192.168.1.254 in the browser address window. and your netopia router page should appear, im gonna make this as easy as possible , so bear with me for a minute, were now going to 'open' and 'enable' the ports and 'enable' your ps3's ip address to know to recieve these ports.

*okay click EXPERT MODE on the left hand column, click 'YES , ENTER EXPERT MODE', double click the word 'configure, go down and click on 'NAT' click 'STATIC NAT' click ythe dropdown icon, see if your ip address is there, if so click it, click on done, if this works, igore the paragraph in brackets

(if not i think you have to sign into psn using the new ip beforehand, im not sure, to do that just use the custom ip and use the same settings but use you GATEWAY as the bar saying DEFAULT ROUTER , then come back to this step)

now im going to list a range of ports and what to do with them , we will call the example port aaaa .
click on NAT as you did earlier,(notice how the ps3 ip is there , listed under static ip? thats good)
click DEFINE CUSTOM SERVICE click in 'PORT FORWARDING' , select next , type anything in the service name, something that you will know its related to the ps3,

see the settings for 'global port range' if its only one port thats being entered enter the same port in the left and right hand boxes, in every case , enter the lower port in the box below saying 'base port' even if theres only one port, and chage the TCP/UDP settings according to every port.

heres the ports , repeat the same process for each one, after that window, select the static ip address you made in the drop-down list so it gets forwarded only for the ps3

* TCP port 80
TCP port 443
TCP port 5223
UDP port 3478-3479
UDP port 3658-3659

*now we 'enable' them all, when your done, click NAT on the left hand side, click the dropdown menu that has 'age of empires' written on it and scroll to the bottom, click on the ports you made with the asterix beside them (*) and click enable , then enter the ps3 ip address in the bar , to 'enable them just for the ps3' okay ,

*now click 'configure ' on the left and then click 'connection ' and tick the box that says "upnp"

now,to summarise, we should have , when we click NAT on the left hand column, a:

static NAT address, enabled, thats the ip youre going to use on your ps3
7 ps3 ports, all enabled to the 'host device' of your ps3's ip

*now , enter basic mode, click firewall, and set to low, this isnt dangerous as long as you have a desktop firewall such as windows or mcafee etc...
save changes, and RESTART YOUR ROUTER!

now, turn your ps3 off, then on again , now go to Network settings and click network settings, im putting this in bullet form for easiness

-wireless/wired(though this guide is based on a wireless connection)
-CUSTOM
-enter security settings
-now for your ip info CLICK MANUAL
-where it says 'ip address' enter the STATIC IP ADDRESS YOU MADE UP
-subnet mask is normally 255.255.255.0
-DEFAULT ROUTER, this wants you to input your GATEWAY number you wrote down
-DNS 1/primary , enter the one you wrote down,

i dont think the ps3 needs it , try it without using the 2nd one,

-cick NEXT
-'proxy server' DONT ENABLE THAT
-upnp , enable if you could in your router

thats all , save settings and do connection test, see what nat type comes up at the end, if its 2 , its perfect! dont do anyhting to your router and congratz! if not , perhaps a bit of the guide was overlooked, if that isnt the case either leave me a post and ill try and help,

eioneill

guil

i had mine set up that way then all of a sudden it was nat 3 anyway look at my post http://www.ps3-leagues.co.uk/forum/f144/nat-type-help-7403/

Dues Bellator

sorry mate im hardwired to my ps3 does nat type matter to me at all.

guil

yeah

L'prof

Hey tried all that, except I have a Netgear router so I can't go in to Expert Mode or seem to be able to find any NAT settings that I can mess around with on my router!

Also, I set my PS3 as a default DMZ server, some other site said to do that!

Anyway, I'm still getting NAT 3, any help would be greatly appreciated!

guil

whos ur isp

L'prof

guil07 wrote: »

whos ur isp

NTL, I tried plugging the PS into the router as well, which is essentially plugging it into the modem (right?) and I still got NAT 3, even though some people seem to think I should get NAT 1 when I do that!

guil

sorry not too sure i think ntl is cable and i'm not sure how to set that up

Dues Bellator

jasonorr wrote: »

Hey tried all that, except I have a Netgear router so I can't go in to Expert Mode or seem to be able to find any NAT settings that I can mess around with on my router!

Also, I set my PS3 as a default DMZ server, some other site said to do that!

Anyway, I'm still getting NAT 3, any help would be greatly appreciated!

lads why torment yourself trying to nat 1 your ps3 just hardwire it to your modem , your nat 1 no problems.you get use to a wire stuck in it after a while.

guil

wireless or wired ya can get nat1 or nat3 it depends what settings ya have are ya with upc or somone like that

L'prof

almanu wrote: »

lads why torment yourself trying to nat 1 your ps3 just hardwire it to your modem , your nat 1 no problems.you get use to a wire stuck in it after a while.

I tried a wired connection and still got NAT 1!

guil07 wrote: »

wireless or wired ya can get nat1 or nat3 it depends what settings ya have are ya with upc or somone like that

Well, I've tried both and don't seem to be able to get off NAT 3! Yeah UPC...formerly known as NTL!

guil

its the way ya set it up then cos i did a friends not too long ago with upc and he's on nat 1

L'prof

guil07 wrote: »

its the way ya set it up then cos i did a friends not too long ago with upc and he's on nat 1

Cool, any ideas where I might be going wrong so?

guil

try select auto setup it might work

L'prof

guil07 wrote: »

try select auto setup it might work

Just tried that there...still NAT 3!

Dues Bellator

jasonorr wrote: »

I tried a wired connection and still got NAT 1!



Well, I've tried both and don't seem to be able to get off NAT 3! Yeah UPC...formerly known as NTL!

yup upc there a nightmare if you got to phone them with somting, otherwise there the best isp around, the storys from my cyber buddies regarding eircom etc forget about it.

TheZenWithin

I don;t understand this part.I'm fairly good with the hardware but am new to the networking end of things

"see the settings for 'global port range' if its only one port thats being entered enter the same port in the left and right hand boxes, in every case , enter the lower port in the box below saying 'base port' even if theres only one port, and chage the TCP/UDP settings according to every port.

heres the ports , repeat the same process for each one, after that window, select the static ip address you made in the drop-down list so it gets forwarded only for the ps3

* TCP port 80
TCP port 443
TCP port 5223
UDP port 3478-3479
UDP port 3658-3659"

My PSN ID is :TheZenWithin

guil

what exactly dont ya understand, if its only 1 port range ya enter it in the start, end and base port, ie tcp 80 is the start, end and base but if there is a range of ports, ie, udp 3478-3479, 3478 is the start 3479 is the end and 3478 is the base
hope this helps

TheZenWithin

thanks.i think i understand u now....eircoms still a bloody nightmare though. my parents netopia router stopped working all together earlier this week and eircom havent a clue why.lol:)

guil

have a look at portforward.com that will explain ports to ya

TheZenWithin

i get the port forwarding thing now .but im at my uncles house but he has the same set up cept that his internet seems to slow down as in slower dl/ul speeds.I live in the back arse of meath but he's just outside Kildare town and i notice performance differences between them.mine being faster. im getting disconnected from online games quite often here but i dont at home just the usual NAT setting problem that i'll fix when i get home. have u got a ps3 guil07?

guil

yeah my psn is guil07 add me if ya want

L'prof

So any ideas on how to get off NAT 3 then? I'm stumped! I have all the ports open and my PS set up statically!

guil

i ordered upc bb for next saturday so i'll let ya know how to get nat 1 when i figure out

L'prof

guil07 wrote: »

i ordered upc bb for next saturday so i'll let ya know how to get nat 1 when i figure out

Cheers, good luck with it!

Niall0

Im pretty sure Nat 1 is just when you connect the ps3 straight to the modem without a router.

L'prof

Niall0 wrote: »

Im pretty sure Nat 1 is just when you connect the ps3 straight to the modem without a router.

Maybe so, but it still says NAT 3 when I do that, I'd even settle for NAT 2 if I could get it!

guil

yeah but ya can get nat1 through a router if ya have pppoe

L'prof

guil07 wrote: »

yeah but ya can get nat1 through a router if ya have pppoe

On the router? I don't think I do!

guil

no ya dont with chorus but eircom and all the bitsteam providers use it, dont worry i'll figure out how to get nat 2 next week

Dues Bellator

Niall0 wrote: »

Im pretty sure Nat 1 is just when you connect the ps3 straight to the modem without a router.

yup thats pretty much it, ntl upc are by far the best isp in the biz, had the rest now i have the best, as long as you dont have to ring them for anything your fine, there phone service is impossible.

noodler

Ths all sounds incredibly daunting. Maybe I'll just keep my ps3 offline when Ii get it !

Dues Bellator

noodler wrote: »

Ths all sounds incredibly daunting. Maybe I'll just keep my ps3 offline when Ii get it !

mate theres a lot of posts on this forum that you would have to be an IT wizz kid to half understand, basicly ps3 connected to the internet wirelessly is pants you keep getting diconnected as your nat3 because you have to pass tru your wireless modem.now if you hard wire ie plug your eternet cable from your wireless router to your ps3 your then nat 2 better but can be better, so if you bypass your wireless router alltogeter and plug your eternet cable from your ps3 straight into your modem your then nat 1 happy days, now you can do this wirelessly but as i said you have to be a IT wizz kid which im certainly not, i hope this helps and dosnt put you off going online as thats were the best gameing experiance can acheived, its the nuts.

noodler

Ah cheers for the info, I haven't got wireless BB at the moment anyway. Problem is the ps3 wouldbe in my room, miles away from the connection so a wire would be problematic.

Generally speaking I assume a hardwire is always superior in quality to wireless?Has anybody here anything good to say about the quality of the ps3 when you are wirelessly playing games?

Lastly, is there a way without checking bills etc to find out what MB my bb connection is?

Dues Bellator

noodler wrote: »

Ah cheers for the info, I haven't got wireless BB at the moment anyway. Problem is the ps3 wouldbe in my room, miles away from the connection so a wire would be problematic.

Generally speaking I assume a hardwire is always superior in quality to wireless?Has anybody here anything good to say about the quality of the ps3 when you are wirelessly playing games?

Lastly, is there a way without checking bills etc to find out what MB my bb connection is?

yeah ring up your isp and ask them what your speed is, to be honest it dosnt really matter what speed you have, ive got 12 mb bb speed my mate next door has 1 mb bb speed from the same isp and we both play online all the time with no problems what so ever, btw how far is the modem to your bedroom , petes sell 20 ft and 40 ft eternet cables for 20 and 30 euro

noodler

Yeah, I can get a drill out an put it under the carpet etc if I make an effort I am sure.

Even wireless at its best isn't as good as a cable for gaming though? Is that about right?

Is wireless only good for surfing

Dues Bellator

noodler wrote: »

Yeah, I can get a drill out an put it under the carpet etc if I make an effort I am sure.

Even wireless at its best isn't as good as a cable for gaming though? Is that about right?

Is wireless only good for surfing

thats a hard one for me to answer mate because im a bit of a spastic when it comes to this stuff, in my opinion wireless is crap on the ps3 , although saying that some of the lads on here have converted the wireless nat 3 to a 1 and are fine, i cant be arsed tbh with all open this port dmz your ps3 blah blah blah i just want to play games so im hard wired and tbh id recomend it to all my mates , not 1 has got a lost connection, eh except on gta4 because that game onlines a cnt lol.

noodler

Straightforward answer. I have always wondered how a wireless option could be as good as its hardwired counterpart and I don't know alot about it. I mean Its comparing digital and analogue isn't it? Im sure someone will give me a view.

whiterebel

Wireless is pretty good for me anyway with a Belkin router, using UTV 3Mb service.

Dues Bellator

noodler wrote: »

Straightforward answer. I have always wondered how a wireless option could be as good as its hardwired counterpart and I don't know alot about it. I mean Its comparing digital and analogue isn't it? Im sure someone will give me a view.

yeah give it a few and you will get exactly what your looking for this site is the nuts, i asked nicely a a guy guided me step by step on how to make my wireless secure, saved me 20 quid on a preimium rate help line , also returned the favour on advice on buying a new van so swings and rounabouts and all that jazzzz.

Dues Bellator

whiterebel wrote: »

Wireless is pretty good for me anyway with a Belkin router, using UTV 3Mb service.

all right mate if you dont mind me asking whos your isp, a mates with perlico anothers with eircom tbh i would recomend them to anybody.havnt played ye yet mate send a psm when your online dublinreaper

whiterebel

almanu wrote: »

all right mate if you dont mind me asking whos your isp, a mates with perlico anothers with eircom tbh i would recomend them to anybody.havnt played ye yet mate send a psm when your online dublinreaper

UTV.

guil

almanu whats ur psn add me its guil07
i'm with eircom 2mb and have my ps3 set up wirelessly with no problems on cod4 or any other game
btw hope the mods or admin dont mind but anyone wanna join a ps3 forum have a look at ps3.ie it's a great forum

Dues Bellator

guil07 wrote: »

almanu whats ur psn add me its guil07
i'm with eircom 2mb and have my ps3 set up wirelessly with no problems on cod4 or any other game
btw hope the mods or admin dont mind but anyone wanna join a ps3 forum have a look at ps3.ie it's a great forum

sweet add you tonight im dublinreaper

vanman99

Hi, help, please.....A few months back i got the list on the first page of this thread, ran through the motions and got NAT 2, (good times), but then about 6 weeks ago checked the connection status settings and it was reading NAT 3, (bad times). Ran through all the settings again but to no avail, NAT 3 was all i was geting. So, set up on PPPoE, NAT 1, all working well but I can't use other internet devices if on PPOE plus I get about 3 to 4 games played and then the connection drops so i have to constantly restart the router to get the connection back, I don't know if it's out there but has anyone got the definitive instructions on how to set up a PS3 for Nat type 1 or 2 via a Netopia router with Eircom 2mb (debatable) without using PPPoE?

Dues Bellator

are you with ntl/upc if you are then i dont see what the problem is.

L'prof

almanu wrote: »

are you with ntl/upc if you are then i dont see what the problem is.

vanman99 wrote: »

with Eircom 2mb (debatable)

Btw, I'm with UPC and I can only get NAT 3 at the moment so, it's not impossible to have problems as there are no definitive guides to set up your NAT type for every possible ISP and Router (that I have found anyway)!