Bullying on Boards?????

LuckyStavros

I'm wondering what's the general consensus on the subject of bullying on this website. Do you find it common on the site? Do you feel yourself subjected to bullying from other users? Are you getting to the stage where you feel uncomfortable posting due to the predictable attitudes and responses you will get from certain posters?

For example I'm constantly harrassed and have the piss taken out of me on the poker forum by certain individuals (I have raised this with the mods). It's been happening for up to 6 months now. Users have been temporarily banned, one has been a constant repeat offender, I've been banned myself for reacting inappropriately on one occasion but sadly it keeps going on and on and I'm absolutely sick to death of it and sometimes I consider quitting posting on this site. I do not troll, don't have a bad attitude and I do explain my opinions but I am an opinionated person, stand for what I believe in and some people use this to make me out as a scapegoat. It appears to me that some users do whatever they can to push the limits without breaking the rules.

I know there is only a certain amount the mods can do but I'm wondering about whether you think users should be banned for general inappropriate attitudes to certain posters which are to the detriment of the poster and the forum while not ''officially'' breaking the rules? Would a complete no tolerance no position be best to clampdown on this behaviour?

Feedback would be gracefully appreciated.

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LuckyStavros wrote: »

It's been happening for up to 6 months now.

Orly?

LuckyStavros wrote: »

Join Date: May 2008

Sherifu

Ah, stavros is back.

/countdown to ban started

*cough*

AlmightyCushion

Meh, no ones attitude or potential responses would ever stop me from posting. If someone was to get aggressive towards me I would find it funny more than anything. The best is when people freak out with someone for their spelling and they themselves have rubbish spelling or use text speak. That one always makes me laugh.
Saying that though if someone is constantly harassing a user they should get a slap from the auld ban stick.

Overheal

well to start answer up for the discrepancies here: what was your last username and why arent you using it. circumventing a ban is a no no, but im bored; so lets hear it before anything gets around to happening.

TerrorFirmer

You're dead after backup.

Crash

LuckyStavros wrote: »

I'm absolutely sick to death of it and sometimes I consider quitting posting on this site.

On this point - you've been previously banned. It is no longer your choice whether you post on this site, it is out of your hands.

Overheal

why were they banned tho?

TerrorFirmer

In all serious though, you need links to assert your claims. Post a few links showcasing this bullying, and we'll take a look at them and pass our opinion. It'd be a naive individual to think that bullying isn't present on boards to a limited extent, but by and large I think the community works rather well and in most cases an element of self denial regarding ones own behavior invariably is the root of these claims.

But yeah, links first, judgment later.

Bob the Builder

well you didn't get banned for no reason, you obviously done soemthing wrong to get a ban.

It isn't always easy for the mods to stop bitch fights. When someone is behind the keyboard, they often use their wall as an oppurtunity to bully people... happens everywhere. I think Boards.ie would have a much lowe rate of cyberbullying than anyone else, and yes, it is cyberbullying, not bullying.

So, yah, why were you banned, and by who? Do you accept you're wrong, or are you still fighting the power?

are you complaining about bullying because you believe the person who banned you, was bullying you...

Bob the Builder

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Meh, no ones atittude or potential responses would ever stop me from posting. If someone was to get agressive towards me I would find it funny more than anything. The best is when people freak out with someone for there spelling and they themsleves have rubbish speling or use text speak. That one always makes me laugh.
Saying that though if someone is constantly harassing a user they should get a slap from the auld ban stick.

Yah, so much for good spelling AllmightyCushon... How would you feel if I spelt you're username wrong? ...yah, you'd be upset too! Go correct your spelling mistakes!

Haha, made you look... or least you were going to look, so HA!

Goodluck2me

Ive witnessed the cyberbullying all right, i would have joined in myself only I was scared as there was a really big crowd online at the time and i didnt like their usernames, come from a bad area you see.

Bob the Builder

goodluck2me wrote: »

Ive witnessed the cyberbullying all right, i would have joined in myself only I was scared as there was a really big crowd online at the time and i didnt like their usernames, come from a bad area you see.

yah, see what yah mean there m8, last person who got thick with me, I just jumped over the keyboard, and smashed his screen into little bits.... then he started whinging, so i had to tell him to shut up...hasn't got thick with me since though...

Goodluck2me

nevf wrote: »

yah, see what yah mean there m8, last person who got thick with me, I just jumped over the keyboard, and smashed his screen into little bits.... then he started whinging, so i had to tell him to shut up...hasn't got thick with me since though...

Ive a feeling you are being disingenuous with your comments, don't you know that the internets is a serious bizness?

Bob the Builder

goodluck2me wrote: »

Ive a feeling you are being disingenuous with your comments, don't you know that the internets is a serious bizness?

But every serious business has to have their own mafia backing them up, right?

5starpool

Luckystavros signed up after a contentious thread deliberately to troll and was banned.

End of.

Overheal

5starpool wrote: »

Luckystavros signed up after a contentious thread deliberately to troll and was banned.

End of.

not end of. link first please.

Goodluck2me

Overheal wrote: »

not end of. link first please.

QFT, 5starpool has had it in for him since day 1 and is one of the main instigators of the abuse imo. The fact he signed up during a controversial time is just timing imo.

5starpool

Most of his posts were deleted or in deleted threads. An smod/admin is welcome to review if they wish. He only has a few posts. One example (deleted post) is this:

A contentious thread where a dublin regular player is outed as owing a load of money to someone and not paying back, this luckystavros posts pretending to be this guy (I know he isn't) and talking crap. Not crap definding this person, just crap like looking to be staked.

Another one he started was in the strategy section about good folds when he shown a Hand History where 'he' folded AA preflop, obviously a troll thread especially given context. If you want to see the quality of his posts then read the non deleted ones.

5starpool

goodluck2me wrote: »

QFT, 5starpool has had it in for him since day 1 and is one of the main instigators of the abuse imo. The fact he signed up during a controversial time is just timing imo.

Talking of trolls Joe......

:rolleyes:

Ste05

Yup, troll.

Here's another deleted thread started by him for the admins/smods to look at should they like to see more evidence.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055291543

(I'll just say he didn't ask my permission to start that thread.)

[for poker forum readers: it was a deconstruction thread and some stupid comments about TV etc.]

randylonghorn

In fairness, Ste / 5Star, I don't think anyone is taking him the slightest bit seriously, nor have they been since Post 1.

A touch of troll-baiting perhaps ... oops, does that qualify as cyberbullying?!

Gordon

OP, if you have a serious interest in posting on boards then you haven't gone about it the right way. You have already been sitebanned so maybe you haven't learned your lesson?

If you truly feel hard done by then you'll need to explain with specific detail (dates, threads, fora etc) what the problem is, otherwise you're still trolling and you can stay gone.

Bob the Builder

randylonghorn wrote: »

In fairness, Ste / 5Star, I don't think anyone is taking him the slightest bit seriously, nor have they been since Post 1.

A touch of troll-baiting perhaps ... oops, does that qualify as cyberbullying?!

Quite simply, yes. You are an obnoxious little cyber bully!

LCPL SWOFFORD

sparks is a cyber bully

if you dont agree with what he says in the shooting forum or indeed what his little cronies say you get infraction pms off him

cudent be arsed posting examples but lets say the shooting forum is ****e because of him

It wasn't me!

LCPL SWOFFORD wrote: »

sparks is a cyber bully

if you dont agree with what he says in the shooting forum or indeed what his little cronies say you get infraction pms off him

cudent be arsed posting examples but lets say the shooting forum is ****e because of him

Hmm, can't remember what you posted that might have gotten up his nose, so you should probably give an example or not throw wild accusations around.

watty

I've only noticed Mods getting bullied. But then I've led a sheltered life.

Overheal

shut up watty :mad: back in your corner.

hi btw not seen you round; sheltered indeed

Bob the Builder

Overheal wrote: »

shut up watty :mad: back in your corner.

hi btw not seen you round; sheltered indeed

bitch.

orestes

Overheal wrote: »

shut up watty :mad: back in your corner.

hi btw not seen you round; sheltered indeed

Quiet Yankee or you'll get such a tubing :mad:

The Artist

Yes imo there is alot of bulling going on.Not just from the mods but a large measure from the ops and private messages im subject to a load of hassle eg. Out of one ear through the other.
As PMs are private but i feel that the mods can see our PMs which i consider PMs are not private imo.
To much jelously is among these forum members eg.One member replys to a post and the other poster will try to do better.
I get alot of abuse on the PM side which i try to ignore but no success.
It drives me mad that they get away with it.
As for a differant topic (Trolling!),i get loads of accusations of it and i feel some members dont understand what it means.
Troll to me is the form of start of bullying.
Imagine if i called some a troll for no reason for it they will feel upset and bullied imo.
There should be some form of system to put the bullys away for good ,its not good for all of us getting bullied unless they can prove it.
I know not every mod can read everyones post as it would be imposible to look up as thousands are posting every hour!
So if any member feels they are bullied should press the red triangle button and hope it will get sorted before it gets out of hand.
Just one more thing i have sent pms to sort out out problems but the ones who have put them on the ignore list is stupid.
EG: "ive put you in my ignore list so you cant pm me na na na!" Its so damn annoying!

Sherifu

davey180 wrote: »

Yes imo there is alot of bulling going on.Not just from the mods but a large measure from the ops and private messages im subject to a load of hassle eg. Out of one ear through the other.
As PMs are private but i feel that the mods can see our PMs which i consider PMs are not private imo.
To much jelously is among these forum members eg.One member replys to a post and the other poster will try to do better.
I get alot of abuse on the PM side which i try to ignore but no success.
It drives me mad that they get away with it.
As for a differant topic (Trolling!),i get loads of accusations of it and i feel some members dont understand what it means.
Troll to me is the form of start of bullying.
Imagine if i called some a troll for no reason for it they will feel upset and bullied imo.
There should be some form of system to put the bullys away for good ,its not good for all of us getting bullied unless they can prove it.
I know not every mod can read everyones post as it would be imposible to look up as thousands are posting every hour!
So if any member feels they are bullied should press the red triangle button and hope it will get sorted before it gets out of hand.
Just one more thing i have sent pms to sort out out problems but the ones who have put them on the ignore list is stupid.
EG: "ive put you in my ignore list so you cant pm me na na na!" Its so damn annoying!

Lol.

The Artist

Sherifu wrote: »

Lol.

you found it funny im glad.:)

LuckyStavros

5starpool wrote: »

Another one he started was in the strategy section about good folds when he shown a Hand History where 'he' folded AA preflop, obviously a troll thread especially given context. If you want to see the quality of his posts then read the non deleted ones.

That actually happened. I don't think the treatment I have received on the poker forums has been fair tbh. I think there is a hidden agenda in that forum.

And what's wrong with looking to be staked??? I'm a good player.

LuckyStavros

5starpool wrote: »

A contentious thread where a dublin regular player is outed as owing a load of money to someone and not paying back, this luckystavros posts pretending to be this guy (I know he isn't) and talking crap. Not crap definding this person, just crap like looking to be staked.

With regards that thread/comment - that actually was me. I believe some imposter game on after my original banning claiming to be me and you took his word for it! For shame!

If I'm to be honest here I think the Mods etc are out to get me in the poker forums.

I gave some indepth insight into how I played that tourney with regards studying the form and game of certain players prior to the tourney.

LuckyStavros

I'd also like to point out that just because somebody is 'new' to certain forums they are immediately 'targeted'.

The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.

The Artist

LuckyStavros wrote: »

I'd also like to point out that just because somebody is 'new' to certain forums they are immediately 'targeted'.

The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.

+1

LCPL SWOFFORD

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Hmm, can't remember what you posted that might have gotten up his nose, so you should probably give an example or not throw wild accusations around.

LIKE LEAVING A BIG STEAK OUT AND WAITING ON THE DOG TO COME AN GET IT............


YOUR THE VERY BUM CHUM I WAS ON ABOUT

YOUR SHOOTING LESS THAN A YEAR AND YOU GO ON LIKE YOUVE BEEN SHOOTING SINCE TIME BEGAN

ID SAY SPARKS PM BOX IS FULL OF REPORTS FROM YOU WEN PPL DONT AGREE WITH YOU

Nerin

LuckyStavros wrote: »

The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.

proof/links/good examples would be sweet.

randylonghorn

LuckyStavros wrote: »

The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism.

How the hell can anything reek of BOTH Neo-Fascism AND Communism?

FruitLover

LuckyStavros wrote: »

Are you getting to the stage where you feel uncomfortable posting due to the predictable attitudes and responses you will get from certain posters?

No, but an important reason for that is the fact that I'm a grown-up, and I have more important things going on in my life than what some random nickname on the internet thinks.

davey180 wrote: »

i feel that the mods can see our PMs which i consider PMs are not private imo

Careful your tin-foil hat doesn't slip off!

LuckyStavros wrote: »

The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.

Ah, that old chestnut! I was just thinking that it had been a good few hours since someone last accused the mods of being fascists/communists/baby eaters.

randylonghorn wrote: »

How the hell can anything reek of BOTH Neo-Fascism AND Communism?

This caused me to ponder too, but I think it's because the OP doesn't really know what neo-fascism and communism actually mean.

AlmightyCushion

LuckyStavros wrote: »

The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism.

If they were communist, then wouldn't everyone on boards have been banned?

Nerin

indeed randy, i agree,the mind boggles, but maybe they are trying to avoid godwins law?

wiki says:
Neo-fascism is a post-World War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. The term neo-fascist may apply to groups that express a specific admiration for Benito Mussolini and Italian fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes nationalism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism (see definition), anti-communism, and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a politic epithet. Some post-World War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination with fascist ideology and rituals.

and for communism wiki says:

Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownershipmeans of production.[1] It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution[2]. Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems would be for the working class, or proletariat, to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government.[3] The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Trotskyism and Luxemburgism, are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist and are growing in importance since the fall of the Soviet Union. of the

It wasn't me!

LCPL SWOFFORD wrote: »

LIKE LEAVING A BIG STEAK OUT AND WAITING ON THE DOG TO COME AN GET IT............


YOUR THE VERY BUM CHUM I WAS ON ABOUT

YOUR SHOOTING LESS THAN A YEAR AND YOU GO ON LIKE YOUVE BEEN SHOOTING SINCE TIME BEGAN

ID SAY SPARKS PM BOX IS FULL OF REPORTS FROM YOU WEN PPL DONT AGREE WITH YOU

Actually I very rarely report posts. Now, care to tell me what I did, since I can't recall having had anything to do with you on the shooting forum whatsoever? Also, civility, please.

Actually, was puzzled, so went and found the only possible thing you could be talking about, so here it goes.

First, a synopsis:
- A guy is a little bemused at being asked to do a safety course for an air rifle licence, which isn't something I'd heard being asked before, but isn't unreasonable and certainly isn't beyond the remit of the law.
- The fact that it's perfectly legal for a Superintendent to require it is mentioned
- LCPL SWOFFORD enters:

LCPL SWOFFORD wrote:

no law states you must have undergone a firearms proficiency course in order to successfully aqcuire a firearms licence so if you dont want to do one go and see your solicitor (your perfectly within your rights to do this)

if you dont have a criminal record or have been diagnosed with clinical depression or mental illness or indeed have serious court cases pending and all your permissions and paperwork are legit then they dont have a case against granting you a licence if it goes to court

-You were then told that you didn't really have the right end of the stick:

It Wasn't Me! wrote:

A superintendent is entirely within his rights to require that your do a safety and competency test as a prerequisite to granting a firearms cert. Going to court because you don't want to perform such a simple task (and you really think it's going to look good in court when you say you don't want to do a safety course for a gun licence?) will almost inevitably mean you lose. The Superintendent's right to impose such conditions will be upheld.

and

Sparks wrote:

Wrong. You are within your rights to see your solicitor, obviously, but he'll tell you the same thing that's been said here, by which I mean, there isn't a specific law that specificly says you have to have undergone a proficiency course. Instead, there is Section 4(3)(b) in the new Firearms Act:
Quote:
3) An applicant for a firearm certificate shall supply to the issuing person the information requested in the application form and such further information as the issuing person may require in the performance of the person’s functions under this Act, including, in particular—
...
(b) proof of competence in the use of the firearm concerned,
And prior to this, there is the ruling of the High Court in Dunne v Donohue (as upheld by the Supreme Court) which says that the Super can impose preconditions not in the Act on an individual basis:
Quote:
I am of the opinion that the provisions of [s.4(b)] of the 1925 Act are such as not to restrict the ambit to consideration as to the personal attributes of an applicant for a firearm certificate but may relate to the circumstances in which he/she may have a firearm in his/her possession without danger to the public safety or to the peace... I wish to state that this court expresses no concluded view as to how far a superintendent may go in the context of the exercise of his powers under s.4(b) of the Act of 1925 other than indicating that he may not impose preconditions of the nature sought to be imposed by the commissioner in this case and the commissioner is not entitled to interfere with the superintendent in the exercise of his functions under the Act.

So what happened is, you jumped in, said something, were told you were wrong, were given the correct information, and now you're unhappy. Care to illustrate anything else?

LCPL SWOFFORD

Care to illustrate anything else?[/quote]


YEAH YOUR A DICKHEAD LICKARSE....

EVERYONE I TALK TO AT SHOOTS TALKS ABOUT YOU SPARKS AND ONE OR TWO OTHERS RUINING THE SHOOTING FORUM

I REGISTERED PURELY TO WIND SPARKS UP BECAUSE ID NEVER HEARD OF HIM TILL RECENTLY AND PEOPLE WERE RIGHT

ON MY THIRD USERNAME AND YOU AND HIM TAKE THE BAIT EVERY TIME

HOPE TO SEE YOU AT A COMPETITION IN THE FUTURE....

KEEP LICKING AND HE WILL MAKE YOU A MOD SOON AND THEN YOUR LIFE WILL BE COMPLETE...

YOU SAD ****ER

It wasn't me!

LCPL SWOFFORD wrote: »

YEAH YOUR A DICKHEAD LICKARSE....

EVERYONE I TALK TO AT SHOOTS TALKS ABOUT YOU SPARKS AND ONE OR TWO OTHERS RUINING THE SHOOTING FORUM

I REGISTERED PURELY TO WIND SPARKS UP BECAUSE ID NEVER HEARD OF HIM TILL RECENTLY AND PEOPLE WERE RIGHT

ON MY THIRD USERNAME AND YOU AND HIM TAKE THE BAIT EVERY TIME

HOPE TO SEE YOU AT A COMPETITION IN THE FUTURE....

KEEP LICKING AND HE WILL MAKE YOU A MOD SOON AND THEN YOUR LIFE WILL BE COMPLETE...

YOU SAD ****ER

That's nice. Maybe you might want to go to shoots where people have better things to talk about than personalities they don't know on the internet. Just a thought. Might also want to get better hobbies.

smashey

LuckyStavros wrote: »

The bannings I have received reak of neo fascism/communism. They are very unfair and unjust.

Don't let that get you down. The next ban you receive will reek of righteousness.

RoundyMooney

davey180 wrote:

As PMs are private but i feel that the mods can see our PMs which i consider PMs are not private imo.

Davey, she doesn't fancy you, k?

The Artist

RoundyMooney wrote: »

Davey, she doesn't fancy you, k?

oh! who my secret admirer
K?

AlmightyCushion

K?

Crash

Davey, for the record, mods can't see your pm's, only the admins can. That being the owners of the site.