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santry_goonshow

Is anyone here an old 2000 ADer? I had a great collection starting at Prog 80 and going to 1100. It went downhill when they started colouring every page and over-embellishing the artwork and paper quality (sigh)

My favs were Strontium Dog, The Rogue Trooper and Nemesis. I also loved Sam Slade. Didn't get all the Dark anti-fascist commentary in Judge Dredd, but I found it pretty dark that Hollywood put Stallone in there without a hint of irony and made a shyyttte film of it!

Fysh

There are a few 2000AD fans around here alright. Was more of a casual reader myself, chiefly because I couldn't easily get my hands on it most of the time due to being in the wrong country. Mean Machine and Missionary Man were probably the two things I liked most out of it, but then I didn't read much. I liked the Apocalypse War too, or at least what I managed to read of it...

alnolan

I'm with you Santry -- started with issue 2, gave up around 500 or so, I've come back to it again and again over the years. I loved the Cursed Earth, the Judge Child, Halo Jones, Nemesis, Robohunter and McMahon's run on Slaine, but my favourite period of all was was when it amalgamated with Starlord: Strontium Dog and Robusters were all I drew for 5 years.

mike65

I have 5 to about 140 before I got bored and moved to movies (Starburst) and music.

Mike.

pwd

I liked it a lot. Read it mainly around the 700s.
Nemesis, Slaine, Halo Jones, Revere, DR and Quinch, Robo Hunter, Zenith are good series that come to mind.
I've read a good few complaints about making the strips all colour. I don't really get them. 2000AD had some really great artists like Glen Fabry and Simon Harrison and several others whose names I can't recall and I can't think of many instances where the ar didn't benefit from colour.

santry_goonshow

Hey! Many thanks for the good memories. I forgot about halo jones because I loved her, I think I fancied the pants off her to be honest, those high necked tightly sculpted body suits. Hmmmmmmm, Halo!

I think the colouring ruined the style, the b+w forced the artists to do other things than depend on colour palette to create ambiance.

My absolute fav being Strontium Dog does anyone remember the Max Bubba gang escaping out of the tank and going after all the Andersons by escaping through a time machine and weeding out the original Andersons in 7th Century Scandanavia?? SD was sent off to fetch them and it was pure brilliance.

What I'd like to ask you all is are there any decent 2000AD websites?

o1s1n

santry_goonshow wrote: »

What I'd like to ask you all is are there any decent 2000AD websites?

The official one is pretty decent, good forum on it too

http://www.2000adonline.com/

I still buy it myself every week.

filthymcnasty

aye read the excellent 2000ad and JD megazine around the 800-1100 mark. loved strontium dog, slaine, chopper, abc warriors etc etc.
dont buy regularly now but stick my nose into a copy in easons from time to time

JangoFett

I had a 2000AD annual when I was a kid, and I remember being amazed by it, it freaked me out sometimes cuz I was only a young'un like

All I have now is the Judge Dredd/Batman crossover and I loves it!

MarkHall

I've actually started to pick up the Dredd Casefiles last year.
And am working on getting some of thier Nice Hardback trades that they've been releasing. Loving the ABC warrior stuff.

santry_goonshow

Alan Moore and dave Gibbons went on to do the Watchmen which was re-released in the last few years. I always thought there was a massive swipe at authority and reactionary-rightwingery built into the whole Dredd thing. Because Dredd had almost no personality there was no obvious moral comment which made it convenient to sustain the stories. The scary thing is probably only 10% of the people who read Dredd saw that whereas the others might just have seen the cool bike and the six setting pistol.

mike65

I guess it depends if, as a 12 year old you have a sufficiently nuisanced view of the world.

Mike.

FUGGER

I first got into comics thanks to Sweeny Toddler, The Defenders and Spidey but when myself and my cousin discovered 2000AD we were shocked and appalled (it featured the type of story they often did where bastardos persecute little creatures and earn themselves an ass-kicking at the hands of Johnny Alpha or Nemesis or Dredd, or in this case a big sea monster from Flesh book 2 or maybe 3). Anyway, when we were a little bit older, on holidays together, and sick of playing mala inside our caravan as it pissed down rain outside, we bought another 2000AD. In it Judge Death had taken over a building and was murdering everyone inside. Naturally we felt the thrill power and kept buying, also catching up on the old classics. The Universe created by the various stories of 2000AD put both Marvel and DC to shame in my eyes. Dredd, my personal favourite, alone inhabits an incredible landscape of infinite possibilty and Wagner is an underrated comic genius. Dredd was satire and the man almost a machine, but even when I was very young he showed signs of being more than just a law dispenser when he diverted Justice department funds to pay for a brain damaged girl (basically a brain in a tank on a robot body that had gone wrong) to have an operation (see: Error of Judgement). This led to the kid gaining self-awareness and committing suicide at the sight of herself. Dredd started wearing tight boots after that, keeping his mind off his self-doubt by distracting it with uncomfortable feet. Since then Dredd has acquired, quite by chance, a large family. His niece by Rico (who actually first appeared way back as a baby) has returned to Mega City, where she has had to overcome agrophobia and frequent panic attacks and attends am-dram in the evenings (sounds like a Mike Leigh movie doesn't it?). Dredd has younger clone brothers too, and one has quit the law to live a 'normal' life. Ha! good luck to him. The other clone has a better arrest record than the now 60-odd years of age Dredd and Dredd is begining to feel a bit redundant, and perhaps even used. Dredd's mutant kin, the Fargos, have Dredd pushing Chief Judge Hershey to let mutants into Mega City One. So it seems the older he gets the less those tight boots work. I haven't even mentioned Demarco, who, despite Dredd's best efforts, got kicked off the force for kissing fellas, including old stoney face himself. She drinks a bit last I heard, and is trying to find her feet in her new life. I'm not sure about 2000AD as a whole anymore. Many of the artists they've used over the last few years are brilliant (Henry Flint in particular) but the writers seem to me to be reared on a diet of Tarantino and have little interest in the wider world for the most part (correct me anyone if I'm being unfair). It was a genuine interest in the wider world that allowed Wagner, Moore, Grant and the zarjaz Mills etc. to bring comics out of the playpen via satire and real world inspiration combined with brilliant imagination. Anyway, I've gone on long enough, a site you might like is www.2000adreview.co.uk and here are my idea of REAL Dredd movies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fex3HnoG_uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGkj_odYc5Y And Slaine... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRIPAsbhZpM Oh and finally, I may have some qualms about 2000AD's writers but the comic is still worth it and can you see DC or Marvel having the foresight and guts to give an imaginative talent like Dublin's Bob Byrne exposure right alongside their main product? Nah, he'd frighten the horses.

FUGGER

Paragraphs would've been nice. I put them in there too.

santry_goonshow

Its so funny you know my first 200AD memory was about 1984 and my mother had grabbed a handful of reading for everyone before we went to Mayo for a holiday near Achill island- not even sure where she bought it all. An eagle, which we all knew and a Battle were there in the mix for me and the brothers. As it turned out the 2000AD was aimed at my teenage bro but it went over his head and I got it and stared and stared at every picture. It was so sophisticated I couldnt believe it.

5times

I reckon the original Bad Company series is one of the best things I have ever read. Brilliant art, a great storyline and unbelievable characterisations.

constantine666

I loved reading 2000ad when I was a kid!!! but I only started at prog270 or something ad ended at 501. I recently caught up on alot of it though through people scanning them to disk to read on computers. Still missing a large chunk of episodes but great if you can't find the books anymore!! my favs were Halo Jones,DR and Quinch,Bad Company,Slaine

shenanigans1982

Have an uncle who had a big collection that I used to read but the only thing in there that really appealled to me was Dredd. At the time the other artwork seemed to dark, maybe if I re read some of it now I might by more into it.

Patrick Brown

Oh aye, 2000AD was great. Still pick it up some of the time when Nikolai Dante or Button Man are running, or if anything happens to catch my eye. Loved Nemesis - Kevin O'Neill was and is a god - Strontium Dog, all the usual suspects, and was in heaven not that long ago when they reprinted Meltdown Man in their Extreme Editions.

darkdubh

First saw 2000ad when i was three in 1977,i can still remember the Dredd story had him fighting a Kong like robot gorilla,my brother used to get it occasionaly and started getting it myself when i was older,it was at its best in the 80s.

Acehicks

My older brothers collected 2000ad from its first issue onwards...1977 I think? Judge Dredd was very different in his initial conception, he had quite a gay robot butler called Walter that worried about his master's well-being. Quite sweet really...
Johnny Alpha was savage did you read the story of his death? There seemed to be two versions in which he was killed off. In one he sacrificed himself for the greater good, think his mutant eyes were gouged out in that one. The earlier version had him and Wulf Sternhammer die at the hands of vengeful muties.
I agree that 2000ad was never better than it was in the eighties/early nineties. Then again I may be an old fart.

AARRRGH

Also a Nemesis, Strontium Dog and Rogue Trooper fan here.

In fact, I downloaded Rogue Trooper the game the other day. It's good, worth a look!

Ping Chow Chi

5times wrote: »

I reckon the original Bad Company series is one of the best things I have ever read. Brilliant art, a great storyline and unbelievable characterisations.

Indeed, the first Bad Company series was a joy to read and I still pick up the graphic novel from time to time today.


shame they ruined it with the following two series

forbairt

I was lying awake last night and thinking to myself ... damn I really must get a few 2000ADs again ...

Its about 13 years since I read them.

I was getting 2000AD and the megazine back around #750 I think ... previously my brother had a fair few ... but they ended up getting destroyed (number 1 ... up to a few hundred)

Now I've a mad craving to start reading them again. Think I'll head into town tomorrow and pick up a few back issues if I can find any. Anyone have a good point in the last few issues that I should join at ?

[hopefully its not too off topic ... its my first post in comics I think]

mike65

Destroyed????????????????? :eek:

forbairt

mike65 wrote: »

Destroyed????????????????? :eek:

water damaged and then thrown ... years later I went looking for them and could only find a few issues around the 110's or so I was REALLY gutted

(can only imagine how my brother felt)

mike65

Indeed, much poorer (in both senses!).

6th

Ah I loved it years ago, Durham Red, ABC Warriors, Finn and absolutely loved The Clown! I'm actually looking at selling on a load of issues but no joy yet.

forbairt

Sabotage wrote: »

Ah I loved it years ago, Durham Red, ABC Warriors, Finn and absolutely loved The Clown! I'm actually looking at selling on a load of issues but no joy yet.

Where are you selling them and what ? (details)

Personally I could never really get into Nemesis at all ... I did love Durham Red ... ABC Warriors .. and I was quite taken with Slane even if I did think it was a bit overly graphic

Trying to think of the stories I was reading at the time

I used to have a couple when I was a teen, but long gone now.

I still have my 1987 "2000 AD" annual though.

(one of my favourite Dread quotes of all time: "I have only one word for traitors... Silencers!" ...) (or something like that!)

cue

Brings back memories! I remember a story about a space gladiator fighting monsters and aliens. He hated it but hated his overlords just as much. Johnny Lightning, I think. It was one of the very first stories.
I got a spy code for secret messages and a sticky thing which I put on my arm making me look like I had circuits instead of veins!
I read it for years, dipping in and out, but never having the discipline to stick with a series. Tried to collect them for a while when I hit teenage years but got distracted by girls and booze.
Dredd impressed me cos it was so obviously a comment on the Thatcher era we were in. Quality stuff.

trustno1

Such fond memories reading this blog.. my brother used to buy 2000AD (still has tons of them stored in MY attic for some reason!!) and he would never keep them in Prog order which used to drive me cracked, so in order to read them I had to sort them all into numerical order so I could follow the story lines.. sure what are little sisters for?!!..

Absolute favourites where Judge Dredd (especially when Judge Death and Co turned up), ABC Warriors (with artwork by Simon Bisley - guy is a genius) and also loved Tharg's Future Shocks!.. you can now buy them all in one handy volume which I must purchase at some stage..

Thanks for the memories!..

Deamonn

I have loads of 2000ad's. Not sure how many, but I definitely have number 1 and then the rest up to 20. So glad I have number one.

I have to say my favourite character had to be The ABC Warriors and Deadlock, Nemesis coming in second and the coolest bounty hunter ever Johnny Alpha aka Strontium Dog (Would make an amazing movie) a close third.

My collection is priceless and I could never part with them.

o1s1n

Deamonn wrote: »

y favourite character had to be The ABC Warriors and Deadlock, Nemesis coming in second

You should appreciate what I just won on ebay so!

A3 playing card style drawing of Deadlock/Nemesis by Henry Flint





Question now, is which way to hang it?!

Gotta be Nemesis side up...

Deamonn

I'd get both sides copied and hang them side by side and put the original away!

and yes i am jealous

o1s1n

Oh god, I don't know what I've started.
I used to collect animation cels but managed to kick the habit after a few years as it's more expensive & addictive than crack.

Now I've discovered 2000AD original art on ebay. Looks like I'll be skipping food for the next few months.


Just bought these (First one has been delivered and is very lovely indeed) -


Greg Staples, Prog 1052



Pete Doherty Prog 767

& currently finalizing the deal on this -