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Recommend a Chiropractor in Dublin

  • 16-05-2008 12:06pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭


    hi

    can anyone recommend a good chiropractor in the Dublin area?

    Preferably in town or somewhere not too far from town.

    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    I once went to a chiropractor in France as I thought I slipped a disc lifting my bike off a train. Pain was horrendous.

    Anyway, this guy got me in a full nelson and lifted me up and shook me around violently 3 times. My back make a few snap, crackle and pops.

    Looking back I think it was only a pulled muscle! It could have all ended in tears.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    They've been known to paralyse people with thier quackery..leave it alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    Theyre weapons! Anthing that makes your body make that kind of sound is not healthy in the long term. Look in to oesteopaths and Bowen therapists, Bowen therapy cured my Lower back problem in 2 sessions...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    I strongly recommend that you don't go to a chiro. I'm not being a crazy woman here I just have experience with a manual adjustment going very, very wrong. Not sure what your injury is but an osteopath is very good for back problems or there are some sports specific physio's. I think Hanley spoke highly of one who is near enough to town in a previous post. You could PM him

    I certainly didn't!! :D

    I spoke highly of Sports Med. Ireland on Schoolhouse Lane off Kildare Street!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Originally Posted by littlefriend viewpost.gif
    I strongly recommend that you don't go to a chiro. I'm not being a crazy woman here I just have experience with a manual adjustment going very, very wrong. Not sure what your injury is but an osteopath is very good for back problems or there are some sports specific physio's.I think Hanley spoke highly of one who is near enough to town in a previous post. You could PM him

    Here is that thread
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055279798




    What do you mean you didn't???

    Lol I thought you meant I spoke highly of Chiros.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Just like doctors and trainers, there are good and bad chiros. There's a guy in Swords, Clive Dennis, who I think is excellent. Every time I've been to him, he's done the job and doesn't make lots of unnecessary follow up appointments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭NicheG


    EileenG wrote: »
    Just like doctors and trainers, there are good and bad chiros. There's a guy in Swords, Clive Dennis, who I think is excellent. Every time I've been to him, he's done the job and doesn't make lots of unnecessary follow up appointments.

    I went to a Chiropractor in Clontarf. Thought the immediate effect of a session was great however I felt that they made me come back too often for unecessary follow up work. At €40 per session (which generally only lasted 5 mins) it was'nt cheap.
    Was going for about two years (once a month) and I honestly feel I only needed two (out of 24) corrective sessions where I was in serious pain.
    Saw a piece on Prime Time where it was found that Chiropractic care was responsible for several deaths in Canada, which scared me a bit so I rang them the following day and cancelled my appointment and was never back since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    EileenG wrote: »
    Just like doctors and trainers, there are good and bad chiros. There's a guy in Swords, Clive Dennis, who I think is excellent. Every time I've been to him, he's done the job and doesn't make lots of unnecessary follow up appointments.
    http://jrsm.rsmjournals.com/cgi/content/full/100/7/330
    The patients were mostly young healthy individuals treated for benign, self-limiting conditions such as neck pain or headache. Dissection of the vertebral arteries was the most common problem; other complications included dural tear, oedema, nerve injury, disc herniation, haematoma and bone fracture. The symptoms were frequently life-threatening, though in most cases the patient made a full recovery. In the majority of cases, spinal manipulation was deemed to be the probable cause of the adverse effect.

    I know I'd prefer to avoid an alternative treatment with a history like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Anyone like to find the statistics on deaths caused by normal medical treatment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭littlefriend


    EileenG wrote: »
    Anyone like to find the statistics on deaths caused by normal medical treatment?

    I'm sorry but I think that argument is ridiculous and funnily enough it is ALWAYS used when somebody is defending chiropractors.

    How a chiropractor or anyone else for that matter can think that wrenching somebodies head around a few times will help a pulled muscle is beyond me. The potential for causing serious damage [which often can not be fixed] to a persons neck is HUGE. If you went to a Dr say with a bit of a twinge in your ankle would you think it was a good idea to let them wrench it way beyond its ROM in the hope that that will fix it.

    Yeah maybe there are good and bad chiros but why take the risk? This is your SPINE that they are wrenching about.

    Another thing - is the fact that a particular chiropractor doesn't make you come back to him more times than is necessary really an endorsement? Surely that is just NORMAL procedure.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    I'm sorry but I think that argument is ridiculous and funnily enough it is ALWAYS used when somebody is defending chiropractors.

    How a chiropractor or anyone else for that matter can think that wrenching somebodies head around a few times will help a pulled muscle is beyond me. The potential for causing serious damage [which often can not be fixed] to a persons neck is HUGE. If you went to a Dr say with a bit of a twinge in your ankle would you think it was a good idea to let them wrench it way beyond its ROM in the hope that that will fix it.

    Yeah maybe there are good and bad chiros but why take the risk? This is your SPINE that they are wrenching about.

    Another thing - is the fact that a particular chiropractor doesn't make you come back to him more times than is necessary really an endorsement? Surely that is just NORMAL procedure.

    Bloody well said.What these characters are doing has no basis in medicine."Alternative" medicine is usually useless,in this case it can put you in a wheelchair.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    My ACTUAL opinion on Chiro's is a bit mixed tbh.

    I certainly wouldn't let them near my neck, or let them at me in place of a proper sports injury specialist. BUT I think they can have a place when it comes to prevention (ensuring alignment is in check to prevent injuries occuring).

    My training partner tore his pec a while ago, he also had a linguring elbow issue. The Chiro did sweet FA for his pec, a complete was of time. But he did help his elbow out alot. He described it as almost instant relief.

    Now he's with a fairly highly regarded physio and he's seeing GREAT progress on his pec. So what I'm saying is that I think the chiro can complement the physio, but certiainly not replace them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Personally, I've had far better experience with chiropractors than with doctors. Chiros train for five years on a much smaller part of the body than doctors do, so they are a lot more expert at it.

    I've had injuries that involved lots of 60 euro trips to the doctor and never even got diagnosed, never mind treated. Three trips to the chiro fixed it.

    I've never had a visit to the chiropractor that caused any damage. I've had several to medical doctors that left me with painful and occasionally dangerous side-effects.

    Just as there are good doctors, I'm sure there are bad chiropractors, but I certainly wouldn't write off all chiropractors as quacks or dangerous.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    You're comparing Doctors to Chiros, would it not make more sense to compare physios to chiros?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Actually, I was comparing doctors who specialised in sports medicine or rehab to chiros. I don't even expect a GP to know how to deal with ligaments, tendons, painful hips etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Mikel


    EileenG wrote: »
    Chiros train for five years on a much smaller part of the body than doctors do, so they are a lot more expert at it.
    That's terrible reasoning, just because someone 'trains' on a body part doesn't mean you should let them near it
    but I certainly wouldn't write off all chiropractors as quacks or dangerous.
    Since nothing they do is based on medical science it is quackery. Therefore they are quacks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    EileenG wrote: »
    Actually, I was comparing doctors who specialised in sports medicine or rehab to chiros. I don't even expect a GP to know how to deal with ligaments, tendons, painful hips etc.

    And your opinion on reputable sports physios...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    Degsy wrote: »
    Bloody well said.What these characters are doing has no basis in medicine."Alternative" medicine is usually useless,in this case it can put you in a wheelchair.

    Depends on what you want to call 'medicine'. Western practices that we all adhere to in europe and the first world are reletively new in comparison to eastern philosophies like accupuncture and herbalism. I can honestly say accupuncture and 'bowen' (a form of massage used to treat muscle, tendon, ligament and alignment problems) have done more to prevent and heal injuries and avoid illnesses for me than any physio or GP.

    When you say something has no basis in 'medicine' your refering to the fact that no serious research has been carried out to test the results, yes? thats because nearly all medical research is done by teams sponsored by western drugs companies to test their products, and thats an expensive business.

    The fact that most of Asia used accupunture as their primary medical treatment for 3000 years, and for a large %age, still do, before western drugs came into their culture is testament enough for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Mikel


    Pen1987 wrote: »
    ...thats because nearly all medical research is done by teams sponsored by western drugs companies to test their products, and thats an expensive business.
    Yawn!! The stock response for every adherent of any mumbo jumbo masquerading as health care. See homeopathy, reiki, psychic energy fields, angel therapy etc etc etc..
    The fact that most of Asia used accupunture as their primary medical treatment for 3000 years, and for a large %age, still do, before western drugs came into their culture is testament enough for me.
    Do they? They don't have doctors no?
    Just because something is around a long time doesn't mean it works. People have been drinking their own urine for a long time too.
    Depends on what you want to call 'medicine'
    Something which can be proven to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    [I'm speaking on accupuncture because thats what I've been exposed to]
    Mikel wrote:
    Do they? They don't have doctors no?
    Just because something is around a long time doesn't mean it works. People have been drinking their own urine for a long time too.

    Yadda yadda yadda, the stock response from somebody you hasn't bothered researching any of the treatments available and therefore puts angel therapy in the same category as accupuncture and herbalism. For the record, yes they do have doctors in China, but more people find accupuncture more helpful than western doctors and therefore use that more. Do you blame them for that?

    If you read the 'ingredients' on most drugs used in western mediciene and actually find out what they are you may note that what is used in them is either a combination, or a part of herbs, the same herbs as used in herbalism, but with however many chemicals added to the compound to increase potentcy. So proof that herbalism works it could be argued is on that back of your solpodhine.
    Mikel wrote:
    Something which can be proven to work.

    Is the fact that accupuncture is endorsed more than western medical science by the majority of people who have a full exposure to both not proof enough for you? Ok, than look at the recent independent (i.e. not sponsored by any corporate bodies/drugs companies, like much medical research) research carried out by the University of Southampton which prove it works. And if thats not enough watch the documentary aired recently called HELP NI about alternative healthcare in the NHS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    For me I find, chiros & pilates works well. I have had very severe back problems, since the birth of my first child, on and off. Chiropractor has worked short term, but I needed pilates for the long term.

    Physio, didn't really work for me.

    Rory Hayes, excellent chiro in dublin area


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