Thats Fu*&ing It !

heavyheart

Few of you might remember a previous post of mine in relation to my boss and his idea of my job description. Boss = Pri*k btw.
well today he arranged to meet someone in the office this morning, guy came then my boss text and said he stayed away last night and its part of job to anticipate this and that he would not be in until lunchtime and to cancel the meeting. told guy here sorry but he is not coming in bla bla bla. I told my boss over text ( his preferred way of communicating not mine ) that maybe if he was staying over to text me and let me know so i can postpone future meetings.
Just now he comes into the office and says " im the ****ing boss and dont EVER lecture me over text and if people have to wait for me they wait , UNDERSTOOD?? " and walked out.
i got such a shock im in tears. id love to tell him fu&K him and his job but there arent any out there ??? God im so mad !
Do i say something tomorrow about the way he spoke to me ???

Dudess

What a ****. Have you been looking for any other jobs? Do you have references from previous employers? Sorry, I know you've probably been asked a zillion times.

Gone West

Yes there are other jobs out there.
You can type a sentence in coherent english on the internet, therefore you can get a job in Ireland.
Change jobs.
Work in a smoothie bar if you have to.
You don't need references.
You don't need this job.
You DO need a job where you can work in peace and not be brought to tears by it for no good reason other than the boss treats you like ****!
Thats not good enough like.
Why should you have to put up with abuse from some other human simply because he has some wee problems, and happens to be " "above" " you on the pecking order in work.
Maybe you have car payments, bills, mortgage etc to pay, forget them. Anybody can move and work a less stressful job anytime.

I wouldn't put up with drama or abuse like that for any amount of money,

best of luck

jon1981

say something, he has no right to speak to you like a child. if you don't say anything he will continue to treat you this way. Tell him you want a private word with him. Im sorry but if you stay there and take that it will eventually mentally and may affect you in future jobs, dont let people walk all over you. Just be calm when your talking to him and be assertive. Do you have a HR department? is it a big company? how long are you there?

Sounds like someones in a position and cant take the pressure and is taking it out on you, is he like this with everyone?

Clare Bear

:eek: I would not put up with that! Have it out with him. How dare he speak to you like that! :mad:

Femelade

There are plenty jobs out there!!
you dont need to be spoken to like that, if i were you i just wouldnt turn up in the morning, never go back there.

Overheal

Walk the fúck out on him. Thats simply not on to bully anyone the way he did. The actual practise of cancelling appointments like that aside. Just walk out.

heavyheart

Car payments , mortgage , wedding ... all of the reasons why i cant walk out...i just cant believe he spoke to me like that Fu*&ing AS%hole.
I dont no what to do .

Dudess

I see your background is in property - what about a general admin job for the time being? General sales? That asshole tricked you into thinking you had secured a really worthwhile job - so much so that you took a considerable salary drop. The prick needs to be left high and dry...

jon1981

even im angry now! thank god i never suffered that because i think that would actually make me violent! :eek:

heavyheart

Dudess wrote: »

What a ****. Have you been looking for any other jobs? Do you have references from previous employers? Sorry, I know you've probably been asked a zillion times.

I am going to start looking and i do have references but ive only been here since november and the last 2 other jobs i had were only a year long each ( one before that was 4 and a 1/2 thou ) and i feel its gonna look bad on my cv if i leave ...

Gone West

heavyheart wrote: »

Car payments , mortgage , wedding ... all of the reasons why i cant walk out...i just cant believe he spoke to me like that Fu*&ing AS%hole.
I dont no what to do .

Wedding is a fair enough reason, but I'd rate my own dignity above an eight of a house and a half of a car.

aye

heavyheart wrote: »

I am going to start looking and i do have references but ive only been here since november and the last 2 other jobs i had were only a year long each ( one before that was 4 and a 1/2 thou ) and i feel its gonna look bad on my cv if i leave ...

why would it look bad?

ok so why did you leave your last job?
cos the boss bullied people.

if a prospective employer doesn't see that as a valid reason then do you wanna work for them.

jon1981

think of the satisfaction you could get out of walking out as soon as you get a new job...f**K the notice period!

heavyheart

FuzzyLogic wrote: »

Wedding is a fair enough reason, but I'd rate my own dignity above an eight of a house and a half of a car.

Fair point .

BobTheBeat

Thats not on, full stop. Moreover, its extremely unprofessional of somebody (especially in a position of power) to make comments like that. If you were in a larger company, it would be grounds for a complaint to HR. If you plan on staying, you need to speak to him and tell him that its not acceptable for him to talk to you like that. Is your mobile paid for by the company? If not, dont bother answering his texts. If he complains tell him that you arent prepared to spend your money on company related matters and that text is a poor medium for conveying important messages.
The man sounds like an ape. If you can, get out from under his thumb and get yourself a decent job where you'll be treated with respect.

heavyheart

Dudess wrote: »

I see your background is in property - what about a general admin job for the time being? General sales? That asshole tricked you into thinking you had secured a really worthwhile job - so much so that you took a considerable salary drop. The prick needs to be left high and dry...

Yes he does , fu*k this life is too short , he is away all next week so ill see what i can organise in that time try line something up for myself ...

MsFifers

You don't know what to do? What, are you actually considering staying in the job???? :eek:

Don't say anything to him, he is obviously a thicko, so there is not point, just IMMEDIATELY start looking for another job.

I wouldn't suggest walking out without another job in place - it never looks good on a CV and will make people v. suspicious.

Just get the hell out. Spend your days on the internet job searching, get loads of "dentist appointments" (interviews) and do not waste another minute of your life wondering about how to handle such a yob.

subway

walk out.
my god, if my gf told me something like that about her job i would drive straight over and help her pack up her things.

you will get another job in a matter of days.

stevelknievel

If I worked for someone like that, I would probably up for GBH. Seriously, a **** like that deserves a good punch in the throat. I'd up and leave. Honestly, I'd rather flip burgers and sweep floors than make money for a prick like that.

heavyheart

Oh i love ye all , for a while there i actually contemplated that i was over reacting ....
thanks for all of your support i really really appreciate it.
I feel like i want to get revenge on him for being such a snobby Pr&ck and looking down on me im absolutely livid over it.

Kinetic^

Go into him and say "I don't appreciate being spoken to in that manner, thanks". Then start looking for a new job.

Carlito78

What a P*^CK!! Is there anyone you can go to over his head? I think you have grounds for complaint?? He is totally unprofessional and not doing his job properly you are trying to do yours!!

Ruu_Old

Sounds like a bully. Have your say (be calm and collected, don't give him the satisfaction of seeing you bothered by it) and find something else, that is no way to be treated. Best of luck.

WindSock

Have a look at recruitment agencies. They will get you into a job within a day and you can ferret away as a temp until you find something more permanent. Book a meeting with them and then tell your boss to go **** himself. Then tell him again, via text.

heavyheart

He is the director ... small company - 2 directors - 3 employees including me .. NO HR department

subway

if you are going to stick around, start making a log of eveything that you feel is unfair.
any comments, harassment, texts, phone calls, meetings etc.
absolutely anything that happens, make a note of the date & time, what was said, where it was said, what it was in relation to and any witnesses.

its not a neccesity if you are ever to make a complaint, but it will make everything a lot easier.
http://www.lrc.ie/viewprint.asp?fn=/documents/publications/codes/6Bullying.pdf

BobTheBeat

He might be better off looking at getting a third party to do his HR/employee relations for him, as Im pretty sure he'll eventually find himself saddled with a law suit of some sort. You simply cannot talk to and treat people that way, in this day and age. And If you're not bothered about a reference from him, when you leave, make it your priority to let him know why you are going. You dont have to lecture him on good business practise, but tell him (in a calm and unemotive fashion) why you made your decision.

biko

You have two options - fight or flee.
Go in to him and give him a piece of your mind, see if that makes him come around?

sparkyjo

i am sorry to hear about your problem but of course there is things you can do rather than quiting if you don't want to like

a: if you have a hr department contact them to make them aware of the problem first of all as no boss has any type of right to tell you that you need to know what they are going to do outside work and also they he can't speak to you that way either.

b: if he does this on a regular basis you could do the simple thing start to keep a diary and take your time and if it persists go the department of employment and make a formal complaint and when you do find another job take a legal action against the firm were you work pin pointing this man as he will keep doing this to others as long as he gets away with it just like most bullies but before this make an effort to appoach him first and explain that he shouldn't be speakin to you in this manner


oh and by the way no company in this day and age would like to be seen to be doing nothing about bullying

aye

heavyheart wrote: »

He is the director ... small company - 2 directors - 3 employees including me .. NO HR department

with a company thats small you think he'd have some class, and want to keep his employees and his meetings.
leave this crap.
his company will fail anyway if thats how he operates.

Randy Katana

Look at it this way, all that matters right now is that you are getting a salary every week of the ****ers. What ever you do dont walk out. At the same time keep your eyes on the recruitment sections dont worry something better will come along. In the mean time dont get stressed about it just keep reminding yourself that there are arseholes in every walk of life that we all have to deal with.

By the way I know someone who is identical to the boss you described. a head manager, he made some of the girls life a misery in the office. Well he eventually got what was coming to him now he is out of a job.

Keep your head up and keep taking the money off them every week untill you find something better.

Dudess

heavyheart wrote: »

He is the director ... small company - 2 directors - 3 employees including me .. NO HR department

Yep, and he's taking advantage of the fact that he doesn't have anyone to answer to - a true weak bully.

FuzzyLogic wrote: »

Wedding is a fair enough reason

Is it though? In my opinion, paying back the bank would take precedence. How far are you with the wedding arrangements OP?

humanji

Can you go to the other director and tell them exactly what happened? The thing is that the other director could possibly stick with your boss, so it depends on how well they get on, I guess.

TBH, if I were you, I'd walk straight up to my boss and give him a bollocking that he won't soon forget. I'd then get my coat and leave. You don't need that and you'll be easily able to make ends meet at home until you get a new job. It's only going to get worse and it'll do you no good.

heavyheart

Dudess wrote: »

Yep, and he's taking advantage of the fact that he doesn't have anyone to answer to - a true weak bully.

Is it though? In my opinion, paying back the bank would take precedence. How far are you with the wedding arrangements OP?

wedding is in 4 months time ...

heavyheart

humanji wrote: »

Can you go to the other director and tell them exactly what happened? The thing is that the other director could possibly stick with your boss, so it depends on how well they get on, I guess.

TBH, if I were you, I'd walk straight up to my boss and give him a bollocking that he won't soon forget. I'd then get my coat and leave. You don't need that and you'll be easily able to make ends meet at home until you get a new job. It's only going to get worse and it'll do you no good.

Other director is his brother ......

jellie

I dunno how you didnt just walk out!

As someone mentioned, what about temping? you have office experience so getting a temping job shouldnt be difficult. & the pay is usually decent enough, or enough to keep you going anyway.

I know looking for a new job can be stressful, and you probably dont need that with a wedding to plan, but are you really going to be in any sane state if you have to deal with that a**hole everyday?

Plek Trum

subway wrote: »

if you are going to stick around, start making a log of eveything that you feel is unfair.
any comments, harassment, texts, phone calls, meetings etc.
absolutely anything that happens, make a note of the date & time, what was said, where it was said, what it was in relation to and any witnesses.

its not a neccesity if you are ever to make a complaint, but it will make everything a lot easier.
http://www.lrc.ie/viewprint.asp?fn=/documents/publications/codes/6Bullying.pdf

+1
I strongly recommend the link above. Start keeping a log and back date it accurately if you can. Include all additional duties (such as his wifes shoes..) that are outside of your plausable job description.

Did you get a contract? Refer to it if so and also note and 'promises' or potential responsibilities you were meant to get into and haven't.
Keep your log and a cool head, build up a great case against him and if appropriate, enjoy taking him to court for harrassment and bullying in the workplace.. maybe in 4 months time... You would be entitled to paid leave..

son.of.jimi

I've been having a slightly similar experience as yours.

Basically log anything that is said to that is un-professional, any tasks where you feel like your being bullied into doing ie having to to extra work cause they expect you to do it, obviously don't walk out of the job without going into another.

try what i'm doing, i've found another job so i'm handing in my notice and telling them that i'm leaving on "x" date and that i'm leaving on constructive dismissal.

So(1) I leave them on my terms and (2) they have to deal with the labour court for bullying / harrassing staff.

But if the company has a greivance procedure try use it and see if it resolves anything first.

If it comes to it that you have to leave you'd prefer to leave them in a bit of trouble than let them get off scott-free

son.of.jimi

Constructive dismissal

There's the link for info

Hellrazer

Stay in the job till you find something else--Do everything 100% even work to rule so to speak.

Make sure to keep a diary of every incident that happens.

And when you do leave you have a very strong case for constructive dismissal which can be up to 2 years salary for you if hes found that it was true.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/unemployment-and-redundancy/dismissal/constructive-dismissal


I was in the same boat a few years back with an employer and even up to the last day he wouldnt give me my p45 or holiday monies owed even though I gave my notice in writing a month in advance.
I had to get my solicitor involved to get my p45 and holiday pay back.

Theres some ba$tard employers out there but the only way to stop them is through the proper channels.


Good luck OP--You dont need that crap.

RedXIV

Don't be afraid to leave his person details up here *snigger* we'll see who likes being bullied

Overheal

RedXIV wrote: »

Don't be afraid to leave his person details up here *snigger* we'll see who likes being bullied

ah if only it werent a huge boards violation, I'd agree.

Seriously though if you are upset just take a day off without notice. The twat may not admit it but it'll be a pain in the ass to find a replacement so he'll look to get you back probably. Smart bosses cave within a day or two.

Bubbly

heavyheart wrote: »

Car payments , mortgage , wedding ... all of the reasons why i cant walk out...i just cant believe he spoke to me like that Fu*&ing AS%hole.
I dont no what to do .

WALK OUT, car payments, mortgage, wedding etc can be paid for with another job. A job is only a job it should never ever have you in tears and it does not dictate your life as this seems to be doing.
Tomorrow, walk in there ask him for a word, tell him how it was completely unprofessional etc and then if he has a problem tell him your outta there and he can go find someone else to treat like dirt.

Overheal

Hellrazer wrote: »

Stay in the job till you find something else--Do everything 100% even work to rule so to speak.

Make sure to keep a diary of every incident that happens.

And when you do leave you have a very strong case for constructive dismissal which can be up to 2 years salary for you if hes found that it was true.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/unemployment-and-redundancy/dismissal/constructive-dismissal


I was in the same boat a few years back with an employer and even up to the last day he wouldnt give me my p45 or holiday monies owed even though I gave my notice in writing a month in advance.
I had to get my solicitor involved to get my p45 and holiday pay back.

Theres some ba$tard employers out there but the only way to stop them is through the proper channels.


Good luck OP--You dont need that crap.

actually brilliant advice. my dad was getting harrassed at work unbeknownst to me. the only way i found out why he had taken 2 weeks off work is because he left his documentation of the incident on the table :pac: and reading that - yeah, people can be unbelievably nasty :eek: but you will be on top in the end if you record things.

How Strange

OP, the tone of your working relationship and been well and truly established now. He conned you into taking a decrease in salary, he treats you like a slave and now he shouts abuse at you.

Get onto the temp agencies in the morning and see what you can get asap then start sending cv's out for full time jobs. Honestly, you'll get another job and when you do you'll look back on this and wonder how you put it with it. Whatever you do don't stay there as it will eat away at your self confidence until this f*cker has you believing that it's all you're good for.

I've been there and done it too and walking away is the only option.

Don't worry about how to explain it. Don't put it on your cv if you don't want to. You could say you took some time off for personal reasons or whatever or just say that the role you were offered was not the one you ended up doing. Just don't slag him or the company off in an interview but there are always positive ways of saying you were working for a complete w*nker so left.

Life is far too short to be putting up with w*nkers like that and most definitely let him know that before you walk out the door. It doesn't matter if you're going to wash floors for a month or two while looking for another job; even that would be better than a job as his ar5e wiper.

board om

aye wrote: »

why would it look bad?

ok so why did you leave your last job?
cos the boss bullied people.

if a prospective employer doesn't see that as a valid reason then do you wanna work for them.

please dont walk out without finding another job first. it is easy for everyone posting here to say get up and leave now but they arent the ones that are going to be left with the bank loans, wedding, mortgage, etc to pay. so dont let you heart rule your head and do this the right way.

start searching internet for new jobs this evening and start lining up the interveiw for next week. you said your boss will be away for the week so use the week to find something new. in the meantime just do what ever work is neccessary, so in other words dont go breaking you neck doing any extra work. just play the game tuntil you have the new job sorted and then you can take great pleasure in leaving on the high moral ground. apart from leaving you with bills to pay, walking out now would also be unprofessional, and there is no reason why you should let him drag you down to his level. its up to him if he wants to act like an unprofessional ass, but you are better than that so dont give him the satisfaction of knowing he is getting to you.

regarding your reason for leaving DO NOT tell a potential employer what the poster said above. DO NOT mention anything to do with bullying or being hassled. just explain to them that when you accepted the role you were supposed to be working in the commercial side of things as this was the area you wanted to work in, but that you dont feel that has been the case. tell them that you found the office a bit quiet and you didnt feel your skills were being utilized and that you didnt find it challenging enough. tell them you want a role with more work involved that you can really get you teeth into. from what i remember of you last thread this would actually be the truth.

the best of luck with it and dont worry, you will be fine.

Dudess

Yeah, board om's advice is the best so far. Telling a potential new employer you were being bullied might not go down too well - all they'd have is your word for it.

Adecco is an agency that seems to specialise in property jobs. Keep us updated as to how you are getting on...

MysticalSoul

I also agree, do not say your reason for wanting to change is due to being bullied. It usually does not go down too well. I have been bullied myself in the work force, and when looking (still looking btw), I usually said that I felt my skills were not being used to their full potential, or I was looking for something more challenging, or something of a different angle. Depending on the roll I was going for, I would change what it was accordingly, but without lying - there would need to be an element of truth to what you say too. Best of luck with it.

bronte

What an ass.
Op when you get something else sorted for yourself and you can leave, I think the greatest revenge is to tell him politely but brutally what you think of his behaviour.
Like others said, look into temp work, some of it pays really well.
Nobody should have to work in those conditions.
Usually when you stand up to people like this, they have no comeback because they're cowards through and through.

MissHoneyBun

OP there are people out there who give people sh1t simply because they can. Unfortunately your boss is one of those people and unlikely to change unless you confront him about it. You have to speak up and let him know that in no uncertain terms that you will not tolerate being spoken to like that. It is not acceptable for him to behave like this because he is senior to you. He is human and accountable for his actions like everybody else!