Anyone else got a case of GAS??

Vegeta

Robbing a term from the musical instrument forum for a minute.

I love shooting, I enjoy being out in the countryside working my dogs, I get a buzz from a good shot but I also adore buying new equipment and learning about it.

Currently I have a serious case of GAS, Gear Acquisition Syndrome.

I am dying to guy a larger caliber centerfire for longer range target shooting. Specifically a 6.5x55 Unique Alpine TPG-1.

I would also love a lecia range finder, the monocular one because for some reason I cant use binoculars

So what piece of equipment is giving you GAS?

It wasn't me!

Frequenting the musical instruments forum as well, I'm quite familiar with this awful, awful syndrome. So, without further ado...

*deep breath*

-The non-existent Sako 85 Bavarian left-handed in .25-06 or something like that
-Failing that, possibly a Mauser M03 Alpine if there's a lefty model.
-Beretta 471 EL, for game
-Beretta 682 sporter, for clays
-Ruger no.1 in .204 Ruger for general critter whacking
-Feinwerkbau AW93 if I ever get into pistol properly
-Fullbore target setup in .300 win mag.

Ah well, a broke student can dream...

Hezz700

Oh Dear.................

A Ruger Mk3 Hunter .22 Pistol

And if i let my mind loose i would like M1903 Springfield 30-06:)

Hezz

bullets

I want to buy something within the next 2-3 years that will let me fire F-Class.
At the moment I cant afford to buy one and I would also like more experience
firing rimfire before moving onto the expensive stuff. When I buy I want to make
sure I buy right and not on a whim!

Ideally I would love something that could reach out and touch the 1000m if
Midlands builds the range in the future

But I am clueless as to what to buy.
Duffy's has a Lovely Sako TRG in Green which I would Love but for the Price
I have a feeling that people will tell me that I could get a custom made rifle made
that would be better for F-Class rather than buying a stock general purpose gun.

Anyone got recomendations, Links to Drool and oogle over .
Rough entry level Prices. (How long is a piece of string I suppose)

Anyone want to hypothetically build me an entry level gun that would be suitable
and list out the Min costs involved.

~B

gofaster_s13

Krieghoff K-80 trap special, a Promatic trap http://www.promatic.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductID=42 and enough land to set up my own shooting grounds:cool:

bigred

If the money fairy leaves 2 grand under the pillow, then I'll be ordering a Walther SSP, Rathdrum membership and heaps of ammo. It's an amazing piece of engineering.

foxshooter243

Bullets last year a mate and myself talked about long range shooting,
and we decided to try to set up a rifle for 1000 yard clay pigeons, a sako 75 heavy barrel in 308 was bought alongside a schmidt and bender pm2 scope...we lapped and shimmed the mounts in order to give us enough elevation to shoot to 1000 yards-numerous loads were tried and chrongraphed and we settled on a 168 grain a max bullet which would be supersonic at 1000 yards-practise at 600, 800 and 1000 eventually had us break 3 clays out 4 at 1000 yards last saturday-this was sub half inch moa at 1000 yards from a factory rifle .we are planning to shoot for group size this wekend weather permitting, but I would be confident of this rifle/loads abilities at 1000 yards. [ this shooting was witnessed by the way ]:D

rifle cost 1500, scope second hand at 1000, mounts 180

Mac Tire

Thats pretty poo hot shooting FS243...maybe someday il get there,hahahaha...as for the GAS, thinking of going to the States (on holiday) to satisfy the greed,oops need for gear...:D
Girlfriends aunt should be handy for the old free accomodation!

Vegeta

foxshooter243 wrote: »

Bullets last year a mate and myself talked about long range shooting,
and we decided to try to set up a rifle for 1000 yard clay pigeons, a sako 75 heavy barrel in 308 was bought alongside a schmidt and bender pm2 scope...we lapped and shimmed the mounts in order to give us enough elevation to shoot to 1000 yards-numerous loads were tried and chrongraphed and we settled on a 168 grain a max bullet which would be supersonic at 1000 yards-practise at 600, 800 and 1000 eventually had us break 3 clays out 4 at 1000 yards last saturday-this was sub half inch moa at 1000 yards from a factory rifle .we are planning to shoot for group size this wekend weather permitting, but I would be confident of this rifle/loads abilities at 1000 yards. [ this shooting was witnessed by the way ]:D

rifle cost 1500, scope second hand at 1000, mounts 180

There isn't a jealous smilie but if there was I would be using it. breaking clays at 1000 yards, you sir are clearly a very talented man.

thehair

german hyme in 223 centrefire and s+b tack scopes

o that right i have less than no money i have f- all money o lotto money
were are you.steve:D 4.500euro

bullets

foxshooter243 wrote: »

Bullets last year a mate and myself talked about long range shooting,
and we decided to try to set up a rifle for 1000 yard clay pigeons, a sako 75 heavy barrel in 308 was bought alongside a schmidt and bender pm2 scope...we lapped and shimmed the mounts in order to give us enough elevation to shoot to 1000 yards-numerous loads were tried and chrongraphed and we settled on a 168 grain a max bullet which would be supersonic at 1000 yards-practise at 600, 800 and 1000 eventually had us break 3 clays out 4 at 1000 yards last saturday-this was sub half inch moa at 1000 yards from a factory rifle .we are planning to shoot for group size this wekend weather permitting, but I would be confident of this rifle/loads abilities at 1000 yards. [ this shooting was witnessed by the way ]:D

rifle cost 1500, scope second hand at 1000, mounts 180

You have me drooling Sir! would love to do or be able to do that.

~B

Hezz700

foxshooter243 wrote: »

Bullets last year a mate and myself talked about long range shooting,
and we decided to try to set up a rifle for 1000 yard clay pigeons, a sako 75 heavy barrel in 308 was bought alongside a schmidt and bender pm2 scope...we lapped and shimmed the mounts in order to give us enough elevation to shoot to 1000 yards-numerous loads were tried and chrongraphed and we settled on a 168 grain a max bullet which would be supersonic at 1000 yards-practise at 600, 800 and 1000 eventually had us break 3 clays out 4 at 1000 yards last saturday-this was sub half inch moa at 1000 yards from a factory rifle .we are planning to shoot for group size this wekend weather permitting, but I would be confident of this rifle/loads abilities at 1000 yards. [ this shooting was witnessed by the way ]:D

rifle cost 1500, scope second hand at 1000, mounts 180

I must declare my jealousy:o I tend to lose it completely somewhere after the 600 mark

foxshooter243

Hezz700 wrote: »

I must declare my jealousy:o I tend to lose it completely somewhere after the 600 mark

this took a lot of practise and the 2 most critical factors are no 1 ;wind,
and secondly the quality of your ammo, as a side note mill surp ammo couldnt break a clay at 600 yards..never mind 1000..you need the proper ammo.

and a copy of "precision shooting at 1000 yards" from cabelas cami in handy too.

Sparks

This thread may have legs

Okay, here goes, in no particular order:

• Pelican case 1700/1720. 2 off. One to put all my smallbore stuff into, one for all my air rifle stuff. Not sure if it should be the 1700 or the 1720 - the 1720+rifle alone breaks the airline's baggage limit for sports kit. The 1700 doesn't but you have to dismantle the rifle to fit it in. But then, you have to dismantle the rifle for airline travel anyway. Maybe two 1720s for domestic matches and one 1700 for international with two sets of foam for smallbore and air. Why not, it's only money!
• Pelican 1550 or Storm 2500 or 2370 case for all my air pistol stuff.
• Cheap pair of varga glasses for air pistol shooting (the champions are great for both rifle and pistol, but adjusting them to go from one to the other is a major adjustment because I'm facing to the right for air rifle and to the left for air pistol.
• Balance bags from Physio Supplies in Irishtown
• New shooting jacket, trousers, but those wait because I'm 40lb overweight right now (you try months of working all hours with no gym time and too much good food) so there's no point in buying them.
• New kitbag (old one's falling apart)
• Training camp in Kuortane in November (€2k right there)
• Possibly going to Intershoot/European 10m Championships/ISSF WC Munich next year (if I make the cut, that's maybe €1k each by the time you're done)
• Three Fujitsu LT C-500s for the rifle club managment system I'm playing with for DURC (still in early development after 8 years )
• A Noptel. Or a Rika. Or a Scatt. In that order of preference.
• A variable foresight iris.
• Those custom moulded earplugs (I have wierdly shaped ear canals)
• Better boot trees, specifically the ones where they just snap onto the shoe, because the cheap slidey ones I have are a pain on the fingers to do up all the time.
• My own shooting mat for smallbore
• The new MEC book on air rifle shooting

There's probably a ton of other cool stuff as well, but that's my immediate list
I'm skipping smallbore pistol completely, 'cos that's a whole other list

IRLConor

In order:

• A comfortable hand-stop
• Comfortable ear-plugs
• A good quality sling
• A shooting jacket
• A proper shooting glove
• Good shooting underwear
• A kitbag that fits all of my kit without destroying it.
• A good strong wall to bolt a safe to (and if it's rented, permission from the landlord to do so).
• A safe.
• A rifle to go in the safe. Money no object, this would be a Bleiker or selected Anschütz barrel & action in a nice stock (not sure what this would be, although I like the look of the Anschütz alu, G+E and System Gemini stocks).
• A Peli/Storm case for the rifle.
• A good spotting scope.

As you can see, I'm coming up to a bit of a sticking point.

fathersymes

A few of these would be nice!

http://www.hollandandholland.com/gunrooms/london/new_stock_weapons/

ps. note the popularity of 20b shotguns.

thehair

IRLConor wrote: »

In order:

• A comfortable hand-stop
• Comfortable ear-plugs
• A good quality sling
• A shooting jacket
• A proper shooting glove
• Good shooting underwear
• A kitbag that fits all of my kit without destroying it.
• A good strong wall to bolt a safe to (and if it's rented, permission from the landlord to do so).
• A safe.
• A rifle to go in the safe. Money no object, this would be a Bleiker or selected Anschütz barrel & action in a nice stock (not sure what this would be, although I like the look of the Anschütz alu, G+E and System Gemini stocks).
• A Peli/Storm case for the rifle.
• A good spotting scope.

As you can see, I'm coming up to a bit of a sticking point.

well at least you left the bad stuff out:D you have to draw a line through it as you have done:D:DLOL

Bananaman

• 9mm Glock 34 - have one but another in case it fails in competition.
• .38 Revolver - 6" Barrel
• .40 CZ Tactical Sport
• .40 CZ Champion - Fully tricked out for Open Class practical (I have no intention of shooting Open but as Sparks said it's only Money")
• Something nice in .22 - haven't really given it much thought

Sparks

thehair wrote: »

well at least you left the bad stuff out:D you have to draw a line through it as you have done:D:DLOL

I thought he was drawing a line through the stuff he's already gotten

thehair

only i could f it up steve:o

It wasn't me!

Oh, and possibly a nice alu stock, but I've already put that down as something to consider treating myself to when my average breaks 95 or 96. A training incentive if ever I had one.

pullandbang

gofaster_s13 wrote: »

Krieghoff K-80 trap special, a Promatic trap http://www.promatic.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductID=42 and enough land to set up my own shooting grounds:cool:

Aaah yes............the K80......:)

My three shooting partners all have K80's which makes me jealous....:mad:

Mind you, when it comes to scores my Beretta 682E Gold with the high rib (costing one third the price) is just as good, if not better:D

Still, if I had a spare 10k I'd buy the K80 and I'd fit a precision stock for andther €1500 just to finsh it off.

Jonty

I suppose I'd love a pair of leica rangefinding binos.

Rosahane

I shoot - Shotgun, rifle and pistol.
Fish - Trout and Salmon
Motorcycle - big BMW
I'm also thinking about getting back on horseback and have an addiction to buying things here http://www.heinnie.com/ and when i cleaned out the shed I found I had pretty much two of everything from Aldi and Lidl:eek:

The only thing that saves me is lack of space

Grizzly 45

No paticular order
Sig 550/551 5.56 semi auto rifle or CAR style AR15 rifle,HK 91 or Para FAL 308 Semi.
Molot veper 12 shotgun.
Ruger Red Label O/U 12 GA
CZ 75[ Frankonia custom] Shadow Mamba 9mm
Para Ordance P14 45 ACP, or Bul Transmark M5 45 ACP,or LAR Grizzly 45 Win mag,or HK tactical 45 ACP[tried two sofar,need to try another two before I decide.;)]


The ability to use,keep and shoot these in Ireland without much hassle , in the future while not a GAS is on one of my top wishes

kakashka

fs243,how did you shim sak 75 mounts???/??(very hard to do with burn blisters);)..cool shooting,wish i was able....!ps carefull wit that mil spec ammo.

foxshooter243

kakashka wrote: »

fs243,how did you shim sak 75 mounts???/??(very hard to do with burn blisters);)..cool shooting,wish i was able....!ps carefull wit that mil spec ammo.

The way we shimmed the mounts was thus ... we used a small piece of flattened lead under the back mount..after trial and error we settled on a piece that we flattenend to 1.1 mm, when i say trial and error you must remember that we knew exactly by how much short we were in elevation
, so to obtain the extra we required we knew we had to add 14 moa to what already existed... so after 3 evenings of fitting the back shim and lapping the 34mm rings with a lapping bar made by a local gunsmith, we eventually had the scope tipped downwards enough to gain the extra elevation. this was precisley measured by first of all taking a reading with a collimator in the barrel and then tracking the gain we made on the grid,
within the collimator. this grid has a moa value so its quite easy to follow.
anyway when we were satisfied we had the elevation correct and the windage optically centered we were good to go.. next step was to work up a load which was both accurate and supersonic to 1000 yards..this accurate load had to then be run through a cronograph to find the muzzle velocity and then entered into a ballistics calculator to develop a drop chart which then could be refined by checking in the field on targets.
after all that we then used anemometers to measure wind and using wind charts alongside drop charts we began to get the feel for 1000 yd shooting...great feeling to whack a clay at 1000 yards:D

Vegeta

foxshooter243 wrote: »

...great feeling to whack a clay at 1000 yards:D

How could you even see them through the scope, the cross hair must have been blocking them out at that distance.

Was it a sako 75 varmint you were shooting with. Any trigger mods? What kind of base were you shooting from, front rest fclass style, rear sand bag, on a table or prone? So many questions.

Honestly that is some shooting. I was out with the .223 last night and the scope I have has 42 times mag. I was shooting 317 yards at clays n sh1te like that, to think people are doing this (3 out of 4 clays) to 1000 yards is amazing.

Dr_Teeth

On my wish list right now..

* Classic, blued S&W N-frame revolver in .357 or .44
* Benelli 12 gauge semi
* Classic rifle of some kind - Lee Enfield/Garand/K98/Mosin etc.. iron sights ftw
* Prescription safety glasses that don't make me look like Joe 90!

foxshooter243

Vegeta wrote: »

How could you even see them through the scope, the cross hair must have been blocking them out at that distance.

Was it a sako 75 varmint you were shooting with. Any trigger mods? What kind of base were you shooting from, front rest fclass style, rear sand bag, on a table or prone? So many questions.

Honestly that is some shooting. I was out with the .223 last night and the scope I have has 42 times mag. I was shooting 317 yards at clays n sh1te like that, to think people are doing this (3 out of 4 clays) to 1000 yards is amazing.

Vegeta, The rifle was a sako 75 heavy barrel in 308 winchester, the trigger was lightened to 2 lbs it was fitted with a schmidt and bender pm 2 scope with a bryant reticle..the bullet was a 168 grain a max hornady bullet over 44.5 grains of varget powder seated to factory depth using a
CCI large rifle primer-the cases were lapua.
The load was tested for accuracy and chronographed to find out the extreme spread as this is critical in long range shooting and the muzzle velocity had to be high enough to keep the bullet supersonic all the way to the target-this particular load should be good to 1150 yds if our calculations are correct. you must remember that this was the best of several we had tried..cos this was a year long project.
Now the question of seeing the clay at 1k is one which was discussed with james mc bride of ballykeeran , he too was dubious that the reticle would cover the clay and make the shot difficult, but i can honestly say it doesnt, we were using 16 power magnification on the scope.
The rifle was laid on a ballistic bag to steady it , no rear bag was used
we were shooting from the bonnet of a landrover { thank god , i have independant witnesses to this;)}.The ranges were checked using 2 rangefinders.we began shooting at 600 yds, then moved back to 800 then 1000 yds..my mate fired the the first 2 shots and broke 2 clays, you call which clay your firing at before you shoot, i then fired the next 2 shots
missing the first but getting him on the second...
I know this sounds like waffle but we have been shooting at long range since last summer at least twice a week, we have fired thousands of rounds through 223 with 69 grain sierra matchkings, 243 with 85 grain sierras and 308 with a variety of ammo..most shooters dont make these shots cos they dont try to shoot at long range..and irish shooters are stifled in a sense because they cant reload, ammo is expensive and finding somewhere to try it is quite difficult..but i can assure you its doable

thehair

top class shooting foxshooter243:cool:
and to think there are people looking at the shooting forum who.
the same people that said no no (reloading) it is very bad thing to ask for
if they see the shooting skills and intelligence this shooting community
have that might think again. i know that sparks and other menber
of this shooting community are breaking their nuts working for the
best possible deal for all of us. we have to learn to walk first and
then run only in time we will look back and say i remember that:)
steve

IDon'tKnow!

I would love to buy a .308 centre fire and get into deer shooting.

Also would like a pistol 9mm would be nice but think my first one will be a .22

She who must be obeyed thinks the 2 guns I have is enough, but a few months ago she thought that 1 was more then enough.

So will have to stick with what I have till she comes around to my way of thinking.

Don't have any makes or models in mind for my dream gun safe. Best not to look at them till I can get one otherwise I will just drive myself crazy with want.

bullets

foxshooter243 wrote: »

Vegeta, The rifle was a sako 75 heavy barrel in 308 winchester, the trigger was lightened to 2 lbs it was fitted with a schmidt and bender pm 2 scope with a bryant reticle..the bullet was a 168 grain a max hornady bullet over 44.5 grains of varget powder seated to factory depth using a
CCI large rifle primer-the cases were lapua.
The load was tested for accuracy and chronographed to find out the extreme spread as this is critical in long range shooting and the muzzle velocity had to be high enough to keep the bullet supersonic all the way to the target-this particular load should be good to 1150 yds if our calculations are correct. you must remember that this was the best of several we had tried..cos this was a year long project.
Now the question of seeing the clay at 1k is one which was discussed with james mc bride of ballykeeran , he too was dubious that the reticle would cover the clay and make the shot difficult, but i can honestly say it doesnt, we were using 16 power magnification on the scope.
The rifle was laid on a ballistic bag to steady it , no rear bag was used
we were shooting from the bonnet of a landrover { thank god , i have independant witnesses to this;)}.The ranges were checked using 2 rangefinders.we began shooting at 600 yds, then moved back to 800 then 1000 yds..my mate fired the the first 2 shots and broke 2 clays, you call which clay your firing at before you shoot, i then fired the next 2 shots
missing the first but getting him on the second...
I know this sounds like waffle but we have been shooting at long range since last summer at least twice a week, we have fired thousands of rounds through 223 with 69 grain sierra matchkings, 243 with 85 grain sierras and 308 with a variety of ammo..most shooters dont make these shots cos they dont try to shoot at long range..and irish shooters are stifled in a sense because they cant reload, ammo is expensive and finding somewhere to try it is quite difficult..but i can assure you its doable

My God!!!!! I am defo copying and pasting this thread to show to
all my shooting buddies!!! Unreal stuff here. Already mentioned the thread
to another shooting friend who could not believe it.

I would love to have the knowledge, ability, experiance, know how, equipment, and all the reloading to be able to do what yourself and
your friend has been able to do.

~B

Jonty

Fair play foxshooter to you and your mate. I've got a Sako 75 varmint in .308 and I can only aspire to be as dedicated, patient, and accurate as you and your mate.

Vegeta

Oh also on my list of things to acquire.

I too would love some form of peli case for each of my firearms.

I would also love a big double strap drag type bag for my .223 for the long walks I go on with it.

Sparks

I'm not so much thinking of the protection though Veg - well, okay, I am for the international trips - but for the convienence. I'd love to be able to just go to a gun cabinet, take the entire peli case plus rifle out, go to the range, shoot, clean and repack, then go home and just slot the whole lot in one go into the safe.
*sigh*
Someday I'll live the dream...

Vegeta

Sparks wrote: »

I'm not so much thinking of the protection though Veg - well, okay, I am for the international trips - but for the convienence. I'd love to be able to just go to a gun cabinet, take the entire peli case plus rifle out, go to the range, shoot, clean and repack, then go home and just slot the whole lot in one go into the safe.
*sigh*
Someday I'll live the dream...

That's a sweet system alright, maybe if I build my own house I can put a space for a safe big enough.

It wasn't me!

Would you not need a fairly monstrous safe to fit a whole Peli case in?

Actually, within a year or so, I'm going to need a bigger safe, so might as well add that to the list.

Sparks

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Would you not need a fairly monstrous safe to fit a whole Peli case in?

Yup. But I'd be living the dream!
Of course, I'd still need to actually carry the thing, so maybe I should add a few sherpas to that list

bigred

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Would you not need a fairly monstrous safe to fit a whole Peli case in?

Actually, within a year or so, I'm going to need a bigger safe, so might as well add that to the list.

We gotta think bigger here. Don't stop at safes, we need vaults . A whole room to put your shiny shooting stuff in.

Vegeta

bigred wrote: »

We gotta think bigger here. Don't stop at safes, we need vaults . A whole room to put your shiny shooting stuff in.

I was thinking more along the lines or a really really secure wardrobe

If I call it a vault the girlfriend will think its for shooting stuff

thehair

Vegeta wrote: »

I was thinking more along the lines or a really really secure wardrobe

If I call it a vault the girlfriend will think its for shooting stuff

with the credit crunch you might get a bank vault cheap
northen rock:p moving it is a little problem:D:Dsteve

Sparks

we need vaults

I know I'm thinking big, but I think you might be over-thinking it there bigred, given what you're shooting with these days

Hezz700

bigred wrote: »

We gotta think bigger here. Don't stop at safes, we need vaults . A whole room to put your shiny shooting stuff in.

I got a Vault built into the plans in the basement of my New House 2.8mtrs x 4.8mtrs:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D just gotta hope planning is approved:( I'm kinda hoping that i can set up a reload bench in there too.

And just to explain how i am allowed to have a dedicated Gun room. I am currently single:(

thehair

Hezz700 wrote: »

I got a Vault built into the plans in the basement of my New House 2.8mtrs x 4.8mtrs:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D just gotta hope planning is approved:( I'm kinda hoping that i can set up a reload bench in there too.

And just to explain how i am allowed to have a dedicated Gun room. I am currently single:(

some people have all the luck:Dsteve

Vegeta

Hezz700 wrote: »

I got a Vault built into the plans in the basement of my New House 2.8mtrs x 4.8mtrs:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D just gotta hope planning is approved:( I'm kinda hoping that i can set up a reload bench in there too.

And just to explain how i am allowed to have a dedicated Gun room. I am currently single:(

Single and building a house with a gun vault in the basement with reloading bench.

You know I hear they've just legalised same sex marriage in California

Sparks

2.8x4.4? Feck's sake lad, that's useless. Unless of course, there's a 12mx1.5m corridor without doors at either end leading to it...

It wasn't me!

Hezz700 wrote: »

I got a Vault built into the plans in the basement of my New House 2.8mtrs x 4.8mtrs:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D just gotta hope planning is approved:( I'm kinda hoping that i can set up a reload bench in there too.

And just to explain how i am allowed to have a dedicated Gun room. I am currently single:(

You sound ambitious...

Vegeta

Apologies for the huge size, not that good with posting pics

Something to aspire to Hezz, and yes that is an indoor lane for shooting

Mac Tire

i'm sure there are plenty of guys on here that would marry the man who owns all that, not me personally though...hahahaha

thehair

i will never ask what or to list what is in your safe vegeta:D