Permanent ban. is it over the Top.??

ROCKMAN

Woke up this morning to a permanent ban from the soccer Forum, Which in my opinion is way over the top , For my offence yes I may deserve a ban .

I would like anybody to read from about page 818 to the last page of the Man utd forum , and judge for your self
As utd fans we are there celebrating a great result yesterday , When a Mod starts posting again , again and again . I taught it was trolling and said so but when I realised he was a SOCCER MOD I called it disgraceful. this was all happening between 5 and 7 o clock last night .
when I log back in around mid night to read and catch up on the thread , I noticed that he keep it up for alot of the night (post wise anyway )
So I POSTED THE FOLLOWING

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55907621#post55907621

yes it may break the rules but a permanent ban ?

Peyton Manning

Very harsh, but with that particular mod, Im not surprised.

kaimera

I don't get it

Peyton Manning

ROCKMANS post in that thread that he is referring to was deleted as far as I can tell.

Xavi6

IMO what you said wasn't any worse than some of the other comments in the thread i.e. -

You're a bitter liverpool fan. Its blatantly obvious to EVERYONE on the soccer forum how bitter you are.

T4TF is a bitter Liverpool troll, and always has been from what I can see on this forum. He's a farce of a mod.

Always "next season" eh T4TF ???

I didn't see any ban/infraction awarded for these so in that respect you were hard done by.

This isn't the first incident between the mod in question and United fans and I think that a line needs to be drawn between being a mod and a user. If the mod was merely a user I don't think he would have lasted that long in the thread himself, plus the mod powers give him a certain invincibility in flaming arguments like that.

This comment sums it up for me -

T4TF, your kinda inciting us United fans, on such a great day can you just leave it be. Let us enjoy our day , I know your not deliberately trying to incite us but we just want to enjoy the day that is in it, instead having petty rows.

He had made his point yet continued to argue and argue when it was clear that it was shit stirring. He should have left the thread long before he did.

However OP, you're just as bad for getting so worked up about it and getting yourself banned. It's not really worth it.

Keano

Well I can't access the page as I picked up a 1 week ban last week, entirely my own fault.

So I had a look when I logged out and it was a party atmosphere that was soured by comments that should have been kept for another time.

TerrorFirmer

I don't get why people get so worked up over foreign teams playing in a foreign league. I once saw a 50 year old man, born and bred in Ireland, crying when Man Utd lost the championship. It's pathetic.

ROCKMAN

Lads to get the story right the MOD who was posting was not the one to ban me

Mitch Connor

maybe i'll change my vote to +1 for a private United forum.... disgraceful from T4TF, but not surprising. backed up by other mods too. also not surprising.

Keano

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I don't get why people get so worked up over foreign teams playing in a foreign league. I once saw a 50 year old man, born and bred in Ireland, crying when Man Utd lost the championship. It's pathetic.

Ok then...

Mitch Connor

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I don't get why people get so worked up over foreign teams playing in a foreign league. I once saw a 50 year old man, born and bred in Ireland, crying when Man Utd lost the championship. It's pathetic.

Oh boo hoo - i can't understand other peoples motivations or feelings so i'll slag them off. +1 for you!

Xavi6

ROCKMAN wrote: »

Lads to get the story right the MOD who was posting was not the one to ban me

I know that. My point is that the reason HE wasn't cautioned etc for continuing his flaming was because he's a mod. If he was a user he would have been warned the same way you were. That's where the line comes in.

kaimera

Tauren wrote: »

maybe i'll change my vote to +1 for a private United forum.... disgraceful from T4TF, but not surprising. backed up by other mods too. also not surprising.

Away to CT with yourself.

Peyton Manning

ROCKMAN wrote: »

Lads to get the story right the MOD who was posting was not the one to ban me

I know that. Its how that mods behaviour goes unpunished that is the issue with most of us.

homerjay2005

very unfair ban. on the day thats in it, United fans should be left enjoy their moment of glory and other "fans" should not be so bitter and "trolling". as to how this particlur mod is allowed to get away with this is beyond belief.


i am also permanently banned from that forum for absolutley nothing and none of the other mods back me up but this is not about me so wont go into it.

the soccer forum has descended into farce at times and this is another example of it.

Peyton Manning

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the soccer forum has descended into farce at times and this is another example of it.

So very true. I for one will be permanently leaving the soccer forum in 9 days time.

Xavi6

homerjay2005 wrote: »

very unfair ban. on the day thats in it, United fans should be left enjoy their moment of glory and other "fans" should not be so bitter and "trolling". as to how this particlur mod is allowed to get away with this is beyond belief.


i am also permanently banned from that forum for absolutley nothing and none of the other mods back me up but this is not about me so wont go into it.

the soccer forum has descended into farce at times and this is another example of it.

Lol knew you'd be here before too long! You saw the signal then?! -

TerrorFirmer

Tauren wrote: »

Oh boo hoo - i can't understand other peoples motivations or feelings so i'll slag them off. +1 for you!

Yeah, imagine breaking down in tears in the pub because a character you followed in a soap was killed off. I'm sure that'd be manly. Crying because a team you have no real affiliation with other then you decided to support them one day loose a game is pathetic.

kaizersoze1980

Ok I need to add my point in too.

I was also banned by this same particular mod yesterday.

In my opinion...(and in most of the other posters in the soccer forum)
he came into the united thread trying to wind people up, trolling in effect, and when people took the bait...he banned them.
He is seriously anti-united, which is fine and ok, but using this to bait and ban united fans, with his power as a moderator, is a serious abuse of power in my opinion.

Keano

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Yeah, imagine breaking down in tears in the pub because a character you followed in a soap was killed off. I'm sure that'd be manly. Crying because a team you have no real affiliation with other then you decided to support them one day loose a game is pathetic.

Troll?

Peyton Manning

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Yeah, imagine breaking down in tears in the pub because a character you followed in a soap was killed off. I'm sure that'd be manly. Crying because a team you have no real affiliation with other then you decided to support them one day loose a game is pathetic.

Thats not being discussed here. Go look for your feed elsewhere.

homerjay2005

Tauren wrote: »

maybe i'll change my vote to +1 for a private United forum.... disgraceful from T4TF, but not surprising. backed up by other mods too. also not surprising.

yes.....spot on.



how do we get a seperate united forum like the spurs one? i think thats the only solution here and have united only mods. having a liverpool modding united fans, and a bitter one at that, is the root of the problem here

Mitch Connor

kaimera wrote: »

Away to CT with yourself.

CT?

Peyton Manning

The fact of the matter is, he is just simply anti-Man Utd and has a serious chip on his shoulder regarding the team and as such, takes it out on the fans in the soccer forum and is then backed up by other Moderator(s). He came into that thread yesterday, looking for a bannable reaction. Thats the definition of a f*cking troll.

kaizersoze1980

Xavi6 wrote: »

IMO what you said wasn't any worse than some of the other comments in the thread i.e. -





I didn't see any ban/infraction awarded for these so in that respect you were hard done by.

This isn't the first incident between the mod in question and United fans and I think that a line needs to be drawn between being a mod and a user. If the mod was merely a user I don't think he would have lasted that long in the thread himself, plus the mod powers give him a certain invincibility in flaming arguments like that.

This comment sums it up for me -



He had made his point yet continued to argue and argue when it was clear that it was shit stirring. He should have left the thread long before he did.

Xavi6 i got banned for my comments as quoted above.
I accept it, I rose to his bait / trolling.

I just think something should be done about the fact that he is CONSTANTLY doing it, as you said yourself, he made his point, but then continues to keep shít stirring , hoping more people will take his bait, so he can then ban them.
Its childish and pathetic in my opinion.

Keano

homerjay2005 wrote: »

yes.....spot on.



how do we get a seperate united forum like the spurs one? i think thats the only solution here and have united only mods. having a liverpool modding united fans, and a bitter one at that, is the root of the problem here

You need to update your sig

Xavi6

kaizersoze1980 wrote: »

Ok I need to add my point in too.

I was also banned by this same particular mod yesterday.

In my opinion...(and in most of the other posters in the soccer forum)
he came into the united thread trying to wind people up, trolling in effect, and when people took the bait...he banned them.
He is seriously anti-united, which is fine and ok, but using this to bait and ban united fans, with his power as a moderator, is a serious abuse of power in my opinion.

To be fair, he didn't dish out the ban for ROCKMAN.

kaizersoze1980

Archimedes wrote: »

The fact of the matter is, he is just simply anti-Man Utd and has a serious chip on his shoulder regarding the team and as such, takes it out on the fans in the soccer forum and is then backed up by other Moderator(s).

Should he be allowed continue in his role as a moderator seeing as he is so BIASED.

I dont care if he is the most anti-united person in the world, as long as that doesnt interfere with his role as moderator, which CLEARLY it is.
He cant seperate being a liverpool supporter with being a moderator and that is the crux of this problem.

kaimera

Xavi6 wrote: »

To be fair, he didn't dish out the ban for ROCKMAN.

So whats all this thread about then?

Xavi6

Ok so I pose the question to those that are annoyed -

What do you want done?

Do you want him/others demodded? (Won't happen)

Do you want more 'neutral' paople installed as mods?

What's the solution?

kaizersoze1980

homerjay2005 wrote: »

yes.....spot on.



how do we get a seperate united forum like the spurs one? i think thats the only solution here and have united only mods. having a liverpool modding united fans, and a bitter one at that, is the root of the problem here

Ive no problem with a liverpool fan modding the united thread...as long as he is not biased, which he clearly IS.

PHB is an excellent example of an fair and even handed mod.
He is a united supporter, but do you see him trolling the liverpool thread and banning people who rise to his childish bait? No, no you don't.

Peyton Manning

Xavi6 wrote: »

What's the solution?

Private Man Utd forum

kaimera

kaizersoze1980 wrote: »

Ive no problem with a liverpool fan modding the united thread...as long as he is not biased, which he clearly IS.

PHB is an excellent example of an fair and even handed mod.
He is a united supporter, but do you see him trolling the liverpool thread and banning people who rise to his childish bait? No, no you don't.

I'm fairly sure that there are quite a few posters who would disagree with wrt PHB

Private Man Utd forum

Along with private fora for every other premiership team.

Mitch Connor

kaimera wrote: »

So whats all this thread about then?

an unfair banning.

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ok so I pose the question to those that are annoyed -

What do you want done?

Do you want him/others demodded? (Won't happen)

Do you want more 'neutral' paople installed as mods?

What's the solution?

Warn MODS, just like everyone else, for baiting so they aren't allowed to bait and ban (or get a modding mate to ban)

None of the comments quoted in this thread are deserving of a ban, and I reckon if the table shad been turned and it was Liverpool who had won the league etc there would have been bannings for the biating, unlike this occasion.

Maybe a seperate United forum where United fans can discuss the team without baiting from mods is actually the only answer.

kaizersoze1980

Tauren wrote: »

maybe i'll change my vote to +1 for a private United forum.... disgraceful from T4TF, but not surprising. backed up by other mods too. also not surprising.

where is the link to the poll for a private united forum.
This is pathetic in my opinion, i want nothing more to do with the soccer forum while that mod remains in charge.
Why he cant be UNBIASED like PSI , or PHB is beyond me.

Xavi6

kaizersoze1980 wrote: »

Ive no problem with a liverpool fan modding the united thread...as long as he is not biased, which he clearly IS.

PHB is an excellent example of an fair and even handed mod.
He is a united supporter, but do you see him trolling the liverpool thread and banning people who rise to his childish bait? No, no you don't.

Once again, T4TF DID NOT DO THE MODERATING IN THE THREAD!!!

He didn't edit the posts or ban the OP. He just wasn't dealt with in the same way the user was.

Archimedes wrote: »

Private Man Utd forum

And the rest of us that do behave in the thread? I'm not registering for a feckin private United forum. I want to discuss soccer. They are a big part of soccer so keep it to the main forum.

Mitch Connor

kaizersoze1980 wrote: »

Ive no problem with a liverpool fan modding the united thread...as long as he is not biased, which he clearly IS.

PHB is an excellent example of an fair and even handed mod.
He is a united supporter, but do you see him trolling the liverpool thread and banning people who rise to his childish bait? No, no you don't.

I'd say there are a few Liverpool fans that disagree.

homerjay2005

yes, i too see a united forum modded by PHB as the solution. any non united trolling then gets permanent ban from it.

signature updated thanks!!!.

kaizersoze1980

Xavi6 wrote: »

Once again, T4TF DID NOT DO THE MODERATING IN THE THREAD!!!

He didn't edit the posts or ban the OP. He just wasn't dealt with in the same way the user was.

T4TF banned me in that thread last night

kaimera

Tauren wrote: »

an unfair banning.

Which has turned into a witchhunt on T4TF.

kaizersoze1980

Tauren wrote: »

I'd say there are a few Liverpool fans that disagree.

Possibly, but its nothing like the extent that this certain mod baits united supporters, and then uses his power to ban them once they rise to it.

Mitch Connor

Xavi6 wrote: »

Once again, T4TF DID NOT DO THE MODERATING IN THE THREAD!!!

He didn't edit the posts or ban the OP. He just wasn't dealt with in the same way the user was.



And the rest of us that do behave in the thread? I'm not registering for a feckin private United forum. I want to discuss soccer. They are a big part of soccer so keep it to the main forum.

there should still be nothing discussing Unite in the main forum, just as there are discussions about Spurs in the main forum.

Mitch Connor

kaizersoze1980 wrote: »

Possibly, but its nothing like the extent that this certain mod baits united supporters, and then uses his power to ban them once they rise to it.

TFTF did NOT ban ROCKMAN, i think it was PSI.

Xavi6

Tauren wrote: »

there should still be nothing discussing Unite in the main forum, just as there are discussions about Spurs in the main forum.

To be fair, the Spurs thread stood idle for the best part of a year and was only dug up recently. The same will happen if the United fans feck off, closely followed by the Liverpool fans no doubt.

Deal with the issue at hand, i.e. the moderation of the current forum, before upping sticks.

Mitch Connor

kaimera wrote: »

Which has turned into a witchhunt on T4TF.

TFTF baiting and getting away with it is another and important part of what the problem is.

kaizersoze1980

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ok so I pose the question to those that are annoyed -

What do you want done?

Do you want him/others demodded? (Won't happen)

Do you want more 'neutral' paople installed as mods?

What's the solution?

I would like for him to be warned about his continuous baiting of united fans, and for his bannings to be monitored from now on.
If he can't handle the "power" without being corrupt, then he shouldn't have it.

Why do we not see similiar threads on PSI, or PHB in feedback? Because they behave like moderators should, in a responsible manner.

kaizersoze1980

Tauren wrote: »

TFTF did NOT ban ROCKMAN, i think it was PSI.

He banned me however, for the same thing. Essentially just telling him to cop on and stop ruining the thread.

Mitch Connor

Xavi6 wrote: »

To be fair, the Spurs thread stood idle for the best part of a year and was only dug up recently. The same will happen if the United fans feck off, closely followed by the Liverpool fans no doubt.

Deal with the issue at hand, i.e. the moderation of the current forum, before upping sticks.

You know yourself that there is no real way of dealing with the moderation cause none of the mods will admit that they have done anything wrong. TFTF will eventually appear to say his point, no matter how many times he repeated it, was valid and that repeating it, loads, is not an issue. Whichever mod banned roackman and other united posters will pop in and agree with TFTF and stand by their bannings, then someone will post so LOLCats.

homerjay2005

Tauren wrote: »

TFTF did NOT ban ROCKMAN, i think it was PSI.

yes, but the root of all the problems on there at the moment is TFTF. i think that is what everybody is getting at here.

PSI is doing her best to be fair and is not the problem in all honesty lads, and the same can be said for the other 3. however, not seeing the trends here with the amount of united fans being banned by this fellow is something that is baffling. we all cant be wrong.

Xavi6

Tauren wrote: »

You know yourself that there is no real way of dealing with the moderation cause none of the mods will admit that they have done anything wrong. TFTF will eventually appear to say his point, no matter how many times he repeated it, was valid and that repeating it, loads, is not an issue. Whichever mod banned roackman and other united posters will pop in and agree with TFTF and stand by their bannings, then someone will post so LOLCats.

Then take it further. Get the input of other mods/smods/cmods etc.

I'm a mod and I feel that, whether he intends to or not, he irritates the United fans on an all too regular basis. There's a time to shut up and let it go but he doesn't do that.

seamus

OP, when you stick in your post, "If this gets me a ban, then so be it", that means that coming on here complaining about the ban makes you a complete hypocrite.

Anyone fancy to summarise the complaint for me without using any soccer-y words?