Road Rage

spiderbeast

Hi all,

Was driving tonight and took a right turn into ongoing traffic, I should have waited for the green arrow and nearly collided with a car. It wasn't that close as both of us slowed down. The passenger of the other car rolled down his window and shouted extremely abusive language at me. I took his reg number. Could I report him for abusive language????

tippbhoy

Were you not in the wrong in the first place? It's upsetting but move on, if you had observed the rules correctly then this wouldn't have happened full stop.

ramanujan

spiderbeast wrote: »

Hi all,

Was driving tonight and took a right turn into ongoing traffic, I should have waited for the green arrow and nearly collided with a car.

Enough said.

IMO not the best time to report someone, neither of you were in the right, but at least you see were you went wrong. and on the other hand, i can see how the other driver got frustrated with the near miss. I say let it go, and drive better.

spiderbeast

ramanujan wrote: »

Enough said.

IMO not the best time to report someone, neither of you were in the right, but at least you see were you went wrong. and on the other hand, i can see how the other driver got frustrated with the near miss. I say let it go, and drive better.

I know you're right and thanks for the comment but this guy was a complete bastard, I bet you he goes through his whole life talking to people in a rude manner.

jameshayes

spiderbeast wrote: »

I bet you he goes through his whole life talking to people in a rude manner.

Do you spend your whole life driving at on-coming traffic?

Different situations = different reactions.

Steve

You could probably report him under 'due care and consideration'. He could equally report you for dangerous driving.

Nobody would win, you were wrong to pull out in his path, he was wrong to shout abuse neither party could prove anything.

Move on, lesson learned just be glad nobody was hurt.:)

spiderbeast

jameshayes wrote: »

Do you spend your whole life driving at on-coming traffic?

Different situations = different reactions.

Oh that's below the belt

jon1981

no its not, his reaction wouldn't cause a collision or damage to you, where as your actions would! cop on, driver safer and get over it :rolleyes:

spiderbeast

jon1981 wrote: »

no its not, his reaction wouldn't cause a collision or damage to you, where as your actions would! cop on, driver safer and get over it :rolleyes:

What should be done in that case, should I have of apologised?

jon1981

no just bloody move on, you done something stupid, he made you aware of it (granted it wasn't the most politely way of doing so) and you drove off, why does something have to be done about it? why can't you let it go?

Random

spiderbeast wrote: »

Could I report him for abusive language????

Run home to mammy and tell her the bad man upset you!

Honestly in this day and age get over it. People get pissed off and frustrated all the time on the roads and elsewhere. A couple of "bad" words isn't gonna hurt anyone.

Maybe the guy was in shock at a near miss? People react in different ways. Just one possible ..

puntosporting

Maybe get a few driving lessons sounds like you could use a few!
You should be happy with a bollicking could have been a lot worse had you caused a head on collision!

Steve

spiderbeast wrote: »

What should be done in that case, should I have of apologised?

erm... tough one.... YES?

Unless of course he started shouting at you first and you then pulled out in front of him because of it.

spiderbeast

The abusive language was the worst I ever heard, he was evil.

jon1981

troll...

ramanujan

kluivert

OP No offense but if you cant obey the simply rules of the road you shoudl be taken off the road , simply as.

If it was me that you nearly hit, trust me I would be shouting abuse at you as well as I am fecking sick to the teeth of poor driving in this country. and I would report you for dangerous driving. Who are you to be playing with other peoples lives and safety to gain an extra couple of minutes.

Just there this morning, two vans and a car pulled out of a petrol station at the same time all heading in the same direction, the two vans nearly took out car already on the road because they pointed in the direction they wanted to go and therefore where using their mirrors to pull out onto the road. I was heading towards them and could see the potential accident, if they had of crashed into that car there was a good possibility that would would have bouched onto my side of the road and taken me out as well.

People use your brains!!!

This attitude of well you made a mistake move on and get over it will lead to a serious accidents and loss of live.

Marcus.Aurelius

kluivert wrote: »

OP No offense but if you cant obey the simply rules of the road you should be taken off the road , simply as.

If it was me that you nearly hit, trust me I would be shouting abuse at you as well as I am fecking sick to the teeth of poor driving in this country. and I would report you for dangerous driving.......

People use your brains!!!

This attitude of well you made a mistake move on and get over it will lead to a serious accidents and loss of live.

+1

Somebody had to say it first!

*Tripper*

Ha, you want to report someone because they shouted at you for making a mistake? Get the fcuking boat mate.

f22

Sounds like you deserved a mouthfull of abuse.

I agree with the other poster about the appalling levels of driving in this country, especially at junctions and roundabouts.

Indicators seem to be an accessory to most drivers which really does my head in, aswell as not acknowledging the fact that someone has let you out in front of them.


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

SV

there was a mistake made...

how on earth does that deserve abuse?

I guess all you drivers here on boards are amazing and never make any sort of mistakes..yeah right.

get a life, lads.

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ClioV6 wrote: »

there was a mistake made...

how on earth does that deserve abuse?

I guess all you drivers here on boards are amazing and never make any sort of mistakes..yeah right.

get a life, lads.

Have another look at the OP:

spiderbeast wrote: »

Was driving tonight and took a right turn into ongoing traffic, I should have waited for the green arrow and nearly collided with a car. It wasn't that close as both of us slowed down. The passenger of the other car rolled down his window and shouted extremely abusive language at me. I took his reg number. Could I report him for abusive language????

From the way he has written it, it suggests he knew exactly what he was doing and 'took a chance' rather than make a mistake.

I know I find it difficult not to get annoyed with people who CLEARLY know they are doing the wrong thing. Most of the time however, they'll play dumb and avoid eye contact with you. It is extremely frustrating. Maybe the driver who shouted out the window had just one too many of those encounters that day.

All blame rests with the OP in my opinion.

ronnie3585

ClioV6 wrote: »

there was a mistake made...

how on earth does that deserve abuse?

I guess all you drivers here on boards are amazing and never make any sort of mistakes..yeah right.

get a life, lads.

Maybe in future the OP won't be so eager to drive into oncoming traffic?

kluivert

ClioV6 wrote: »

there was a mistake made...

how on earth does that deserve abuse?

I guess all you drivers here on boards are amazing and never make any sort of mistakes..yeah right.

get a life, lads.

There is a difference between a geniune mistake and knowing braking the rules.

In this case the OP broke the rules and took a chance not only with their lives but with the lives of the people in the on coming car.

Kill yourself by all means with your stupid igorant driving but dont dare take me with you or any other road user. Do you understand.

pyramuid man

Look. You cant nearly cause an accident and not expect to get abuse. I doubt you will get any sypathy here tbh.

As regards going to the gaurds, I can only imagine them laughing at you.

hottstuff

If you had made the first move to apologise , maybe he would have ceased his abuse/language.
If you make a mistake , apologise first , and then be on your way.

It BeeMee

spiderbeast wrote: »

Hi all,

Was driving tonight and took a right turn into ongoing traffic, I should have waited for the green arrow and nearly collided with a car. It wasn't that close as both of us slowed down. The passenger of the other car rolled down his window and shouted extremely abusive language at me. I took his reg number. Could I report him for abusive language????

What was the driver's reaction?
Did he flash the lights/blow the horn/anything ?

As a matter of interest, how did you end up on the passenger's side after turning into traffic?

BJC

spiderbeast wrote: »

The abusive language was the worst I ever heard, he was evil.

He was.....evil? You're being way over-sensitive OP, you were in the wrong and you deserved a bollicking...and you got one, just be thankfull you didn't hit him.
I pulled out at the wrong time at a roundabout in ongar a few months back, the guy I cut out drove along side me in the bus lane screaming abuse and then shot out ahead of me and stopped his car forcing me to stop in the middle of the road (there were no cars immediatley behind me), he then got out of his car and ran at my car so I kicked into reverse in the middle of the road and went back 50 yards. Then he got in his car and raced off.

That was an inappropriate way to handle it (on his part obviously) but I didn't even think to report him because, thug that he was, I nearly caused a serious accident and I recognised I was in the wrong.

Mitch Connor

ClioV6 wrote: »

there was a mistake made...

how on earth does that deserve abuse?

I guess all you drivers here on boards are amazing and never make any sort of mistakes..yeah right.

get a life, lads.

No one is saying they are perfect - we have all made mistakes. However, you'd be hard pushed to find people wanting to report a driver/passenger for abusive language when they themselves were at fault and nearly caused a crash. I have been at fault fir near crashes in the past, and got abuse for it - but it was abuse I deserved from driving like an idiot in the first place.

The OP should learn from their 'mistake' and take more care in future.

However, it could be handy to have an idea of what the passenger said - while abuse can be deserved there is a line; maybe what the passenger said really was that bad. still wouldn't report it, buti'd understand a little more.

Spud83

Please please please go to the Gardai with this. God knows they have a tough job, I'm sure they could use a good laugh.

veryangryman

Think thats bad? I once reversed onto a main road out of a local shop. Did it slowly etc, but there was a van obscuring my view, so it was awkward to say the least.

All of a sudden some lad comes flying from behind, screams on the brakes and beeps like his life depended on it. He continued beeping so i just gave him a 2 fingered salute as if to say "You shouldnt be driving that fast". Especially since he had 2 kids in the car.

He got out and proceeded to approach my vehicle. I quickly locked the doors and rolled up the window. He was like an animal roaring. Meanwhile, his car out in the middle of the road.

Thankfully he eventually walked back to his car. Anyone think his actions were a bit excessive. I mean if hed hit my car with his, it would have been him at fault..rear ending me as he would have.

I welcome opinions on this - including those who think i was in the wrong (I dont think so :pac:)

peasant

veryangryman wrote: »

Anyone think his actions were a bit excessive. I mean if hed hit my car with his, it would have been him at fault..rear ending me as he would have.

I welcome opinions on this - including those who think i was in the wrong (I dont think so :pac:)

His actions may have been excessive, but it wouldn't have been his fault ...not totally anyway.

When you are reversing into traffic, it's up to you to make sure you don't inconvenience/endanger anyone.


If you can't see because a van blocked your view, either get someone to direct you out or wait until the van leaves. Don't just blindly inch out into road regardless.

hottstuff

BJC wrote: »

He was.....evil? You're being way over-sensitive OP, you were in the wrong and you deserved a bollicking...and you got one, just be thankfull you didn't hit him.
I pulled out at the wrong time at a roundabout in ongar a few months back, the guy I cut out drove along side me in the bus lane screaming abuse and then shot out ahead of me and stopped his car forcing me to stop in the middle of the road (there were no cars immediatley behind me), he then got out of his car and ran at my car so I kicked into reverse in the middle of the road and went back 50 yards. Then he got in his car and raced off.

That was an inappropriate way to handle it (on his part obviously) but I didn't even think to report him because, thug that he was, I nearly caused a serious accident and I recognised I was in the wrong.

Fair play , but even so mate just to be sure he didnt try that with anyone else , i would have reported him.
He wasn't getting out to shout at you , that's for sure.

MrPudding

peasant wrote: »

His actions may have been excessive, but it wouldn't have been his fault ...not totally anyway.

When you are reversing into traffic, it's up to you to make sure you don't inconvenience/endanger anyone.


If you can't see because a van blocked your view, either get someone to direct you out or wait until the van leaves. Don't just blindly inch out into road regardless.

Is it not ilegal to reverse onto a main road?

MrP

*Tripper*

I was also under the impression that it is illegal to reverse onto a main road?

peasant

illegal to reverse into main road

to my shame I have to admit that it may very well be here ...not where I got my licence though.

EDIT

naahh ..it couldn't be ...what about all those parking spaces that are marked at 90 degrees (or slightly less) to the road ?

cpoh1

Its not only illegal its bloody dangerous.

If someone reversed out like that on me and after getting a good beeping for their stupidity give me the finger id be furious! How stupid can you be if you cant see what you did was wrong in a situation like that?

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Wouldn't have thought that situation is illegal, maybe reversing on to a main road from a smaller road? But the amount of places people need to reverse on to a road from parking spaces is a large number.

It BeeMee

From here

You must not reverse from a minor road onto a major road as it is unsafe to do so.

Doesn't say it's illegal, but somewhere in the depths o my memory I think it is......

peasant wrote: »

naahh ..it couldn't be ...what about all those parking spaces that are marked at 90 degrees (or slightly less) to the road ?

Well, technically you're already on the road, just moving into traffic.

Of course, you should reverse into those spots in the first place....

Tails142

Reversing from a minor road onto a major road is a 1 penalty point offense.

Obviously not applicable to reversing out of a parking space although techincally a shop on a major road shouldn't really have spaces which are perpendicular to it, parallel parking spaces would be ok.


"Failure to obey requirements regarding reversing of vehicles, e.g. reversing from minor road onto main road"
http://www.penaltypoints.ie/the_full_list_of_offences.php

moleyC

It BeeMee wrote: »

Of course, you should reverse into those spots in the first place....

I don't think you are supposed to reverse into them, because you would be facing into oncoming traffic coming out of it and it would be very awkward to reverse ito also

Like these spaces, you see them in small towns with wide market streets.

veryangryman

Spar Garycastle Athlone anyone?

Impossible to leave the car park without reversing onto the main road

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veryangryman wrote: »

Spar Garycastle Athlone anyone?

Impossible to leave the car park without reversing onto the main road

Was thinking of the exact same place.... If this is where your thing happened, I can see how !

Fey!

Regardless of the legality of reversing from a parking space onto a road, the poster here would have been completely in the wrong, as he was entering the main thoroughfare whilst the other driver was already on it, therefore having right of way. Also, he was technically reversing the wrong way down the road.

In 1994 a woman (A) reversed out of a doctors office in Turloughmore, Co. Galway, causing a car heading toward Galway at 60mph (B) to have to swerve around her into the path of an oncoming car, also travelling at 60mph (C). This car was pushed into a car parked opposite the doctord surgery (D).

Car A left the scene before anyone got a chance to get her reg number or identify her properly. She was possible oblivious to the carnage she caused. Car B, a newish VW Vento, was written off, as was car C, a 1988 VW Jetta, which was basically a straight line from the front of the passenger side wheel to the front of the drivers door. Car D needed a couple of new panels. The driver of car C, my mother, was hospitalised, and still has twinges of pain now. Had she been in a car lighter or not as strongly built as the Jetta, she would not be with us today. The driver of car B was held responsible for all of the damages, but wouldn't have been had he actually hit car A rather than avoiding her.

All this because of a fool reversing onto a main road.

Gumbo

veryangryman wrote: »

Think thats bad? I once reversed onto a main road out of a local shop. Did it slowly etc, but there was a van obscuring my view, so it was awkward to say the least.

All of a sudden some lad comes flying from behind, screams on the brakes and beeps like his life depended on it. He continued beeping so i just gave him a 2 fingered salute as if to say "You shouldnt be driving that fast". Especially since he had 2 kids in the car.

He got out and proceeded to approach my vehicle. I quickly locked the doors and rolled up the window. He was like an animal roaring. Meanwhile, his car out in the middle of the road.

Thankfully he eventually walked back to his car. Anyone think his actions were a bit excessive. I mean if hed hit my car with his, it would have been him at fault..rear ending me as he would have.

I welcome opinions on this - including those who think i was in the wrong (I dont think so :pac:)

nope, as above your fully at fault here, and another danger on the roads!
you reversed your car from a stanstill position onto a road which had right of way, your fault, end of.

lets hope you dont ever have to be involved in an accident to prove yourself wrong.

stovelid

spiderbeast wrote: »

I know you're right and thanks for the comment but this guy was a complete bastard, I bet you he goes through his whole life talking to people in a rude manner.

I'd have bollocked you out of it as well to be honest.

I'm not exactly proud of the fact, but careless driving is more serious than a few curses at the end of the day. Some people will pull you up on it, some people will let it go.

As for going to the Garda, just start with ..."as I pulled out without warning into oncoming traffic..." See what they say.

STUBBORNGIRL

well i know for a fact that it says in the rules of the road that you should not under any circumstances join traffic unless it is safe to do so and that you can keep up with the speed on the road! obvioulsy Spiderbeast you couldnt match the speed of the oncoming traffic! you put yourself at danger and you put the people coming towards you at danger! no wonder that guy went mad at you! to be honest i think you may have been asking for it!

REM for future that if yoiu think that there isnt a chance that you can match the speed of the oncoming car then do not risk it!

I have come across some lunatic drivers in my 2 years driving! i have felt like going mad at them and shouting abuse but i didnt (well not out the window at them for sure)

look just write it down to personal experience - a lesson learned and follow the rules of the road!

HAppy and safe motoring!!

BJC

ClioV6 wrote: »

there was a mistake made...

how on earth does that deserve abuse?

I guess all you drivers here on boards are amazing and never make any sort of mistakes..yeah right.

get a life, lads.

A mistake can be excused until it risks serious damage to one self or ones property.
If I was on the m50 and swerved while overtaking and took out a few cars on the way, that would be a mistake due to my carelessness just like the OP... but I suppose the judge who sentences me should just get a life....

hottstuff wrote: »

Fair play , but even so mate just to be sure he didnt try that with anyone else , i would have reported him.
He wasn't getting out to shout at you , that's for sure.

You're right there, if his plan was to scare the sh*te out of me, he most definitley succeeded! A new car seat was most definitley in order! I was so shocked by the whole thing the thought of taking his reg never occured to me even if I wanted to report him which in retrospect might have been the best for road-users in general.:o

dcukhunter

What should you do if a driver is on private property you stop him and he then tells you he is going to run you over. Should that be reported. I was on foot and not in a car he was.

spiderbeast

Tauren wrote: »

No one is saying they are perfect - we have all made mistakes. However, you'd be hard pushed to find people wanting to report a driver/passenger for abusive language when they themselves were at fault and nearly caused a crash. I have been at fault fir near crashes in the past, and got abuse for it - but it was abuse I deserved from driving like an idiot in the first place.

The OP should learn from their 'mistake' and take more care in future.

However, it could be handy to have an idea of what the passenger said - while abuse can be deserved there is a line; maybe what the passenger said really was that bad. still wouldn't report it, buti'd understand a little more.

First of all I need to clear something up, sorry it wasn't the passenger who shouted abuse, it was the driver and he said "F**K you and your family!!!"

invincibleirish

Id say build a bridge and get over it OP. lifes too short etc.