Predict Kidneys first team

dc69

Predict the first 15 Kidney will field in his first match in charge?:)

Diamondmaker

Wed all have a better chance of picking the lotto I think...

dc69

Diamondmaker wrote: »

Wed all have a better chance of picking the lotto I think...

lol,I wonder will he stick with old friends

remus808

15. Denis Hurley
14. Brian Carney
13. Niall Ronan
12. Denis Leamy
11. Ian Dowling
10. Ronan O'Gara
9. Tomas O'Leary
8. Alan Quinlan
7. David Wallace
6. Donnacha Ryan
5. Paul O'Connell
4. Donnacha O'Callaghan
3. John Hayes
2. Jerry Flannery
1. Marcus Horan

:pac:

Diamondmaker

Not too long odds on that one Id say...:p

Size=everything

If he plays Leamy at 8 I am going to stop following rugby.


Hopefully he picks on form and not his friends at Munster.

Crash

Aye to be honest the only area in the team that some undue bias could really come into it, IF (and i'm not he is) Kidney does introduce some hometown bias into the squad, and thats the back row.

Think heaslips made 8 his recently anyhow, so fingers crossed that won't be a problem.

Riskymove

15 Dempsey
14 Horgan
13 BOD
12 D'Arcy
11 Hick....er I mean Trimble
10 ROG
9 Reddan
8 Leamy
7 Wallace
6 East....er I mean Best
5 O'Callaghan
4 O'Connell
3 Bull
2 Best
1 Horan

thehighground

Michael Corcoran of RTE, when asked what would the difference between Kidney & EOS.

"Kidney will pick on form. It will be easier to get onto the Irish team, but even easier to be dropped."

Oafley Jones

RickyHatton wrote: »

If he plays Leamy at 8 I am going to stop following rugby.


Hopefully he picks on form and not his friends at Munster.

Honestly, if that's your attitude you should stop right now.

ven0m

If he could get away with sticking in ex-Kiwi players he would

Size=everything

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Honestly, if that's your attitude you should stop right now.

Playing Leamy over Heaslip at 8 would be a crime on par with what the Nazis did

Podge_irl

thehighground wrote: »

Michael Corcoran of RTE, when asked what would the difference between Kidney & EOS.

"Kidney will pick on form. It will be easier to get onto the Irish team, but even easier to be dropped."

Well that's complete nonsense.



I presume he'll either have a major input or total control over the squad picked for the summer so that will be interesting. I imagine it will be fairly similar to the 6N squad though (TOL would probably come in I'd say). As regards the team, I don't see it changing much either - possibly Quinlan coming into the backrow. Didn't really think selection was the problem towards the end of EOS's reign, can't imagine we'll see much change. Kidney certainly isn't one to change teams for the sake of it.

toomevara

ven0m wrote: »

If he could get away with sticking in ex-Kiwi players he would

Hell, if they'd play for ireland like they play for Munster I'd back him all the way, unlike the anaemic half-arsed performances of many of the current incumbents!!

Enough already with all this feck-ballery, Kidney is a winner, he'll pick the best team on the day, end-of...

Podge_irl

toomevara wrote: »

Hell, if they'd play for ireland like they play for Munster I'd back him all the way, unlike the anaemic half-arsed performances of many of the current incumbents!!

In fairness, many of the incumbents haven't been playing half-arsed, just sh*te.

itsallaboutheL

RickyHatton wrote: »

If he plays Leamy at 8 I am going to stop following rugby.


Hopefully he picks on form and not his friends at Munster.

Ya i hope he picks (soon to be double heineken cup winners) munster players too...........

Like be serious on current form, heaslip, fitzgerald and ollie le roux!!

Podge_irl

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Ya i hope he picks (soon to be double heineken cup winners) munster players too...........

Like be serious on current form, heaslip, fitzgerald and ollie le roux!!

Heaslip is a much better 8 then Leamy. Can't see Kidney picking Leamy over him though, if Foley was a bit younger and quicker then he would still be picking him at 8. He's the best 8 Munster have, but Kidney knows he ain't a great 8. Eddie kept him at 8 far longer then Kidney did.

Kidney has his favourites, but methinks Leamy isn't one.

Amazotheamazing

Will be interesting to see if Heaslip is still as highly rated after the summer tour, he hasn't shown much bite in big games imo and New Zealand have made bits of better 8's than him. he's a stylish player, but int forward play isn't about stylish players.

Same with O'Leary, if O'Leary is ahead of Stringer at Munster and tours, NZ will (again imo) give him a harsh lesson.

We've picked a bad time to tour to NZ, coming after they were humilated in the RWC.

patmac

RickyHatton wrote: »

If he plays Leamy at 8 I am going to stop following rugby.


Hopefully he picks on form and not his friends at Munster.

Maybe you should stop now save you getting upset everytime he puts a Munster man in instead of a Leinster one even if deserved.
And I don't think Leamy should start in front of Heaslip I'm just amazed at the anti Kidney campaign already eminating from certain parts of Leinster.
He has the job, he deserved the job, it would have been scandalous to give anyone else the job.
Build a bridge and get over it.
I'm a Connacht fan btw.

figs86

RickyHatton wrote: »

Playing Leamy over Heaslip at 8 would be a crime on par with what the Nazis did

+1

think kidney will be a little more open minded than EOS

what with playing leamy at centre, dropping strings, gettin great stuff out of an aging, ''retired'' shaun payne and chuckin in hurley at the deep end I don't think he'll frustrate us too much with selection

- and i'm a leinster man for all those who think we're kidney bashing

Crash

I think what needs to happen now, and hopefully Kidney will do it, is start properly defining players positions at a national level - Kearney, Fitz etc., rather than keeping up this "ah sure anyone can play wing" attitude that seems to exist both at provincial and international level here (Leinster are the most responsible for this at the moment, possibly because we have young players coming into the backline and openings on the wing) - sometimes it does a player no harm not to get a start if the option is going to be a match out of position.

Stev_o

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Will be interesting to see if Heaslip is still as highly rated after the summer tour, he hasn't shown much bite in big games imo and New Zealand have made bits of better 8's than him. he's a stylish player, but int forward play isn't about stylish players.

Same with O'Leary, if O'Leary is ahead of Stringer at Munster and tours, NZ will (again imo) give him a harsh lesson.

We've picked a bad time to tour to NZ, coming after they were humilated in the RWC.

True Healsip has a long way to develop into a great 8. I think someone needs to show him clips of Parisse and show him that he should mould into a similar style. He does the hard graff but the problem is that a 8 should be a extra back aswell as a forward and he just seems to get stuck too much doing the hard graff

buck65

IMO
Hayes and Quinlan both massive workhorses will probably chuck it in at international level. Stringer will be dropped. O Leary and Dowling will get on the panel.
D'arcy and O Driscoll's places will be under pressure for the first time and will no longer start automatically.
Fitzgerald, Kearney should start.
Dempsey will be retired. Hurley will be cover for Kearney.
Niall o Connor will be ROG's apprentice.
Cian Healy and Buckley will get more game time. Heaslip and Jennings also will feature.

Podge_irl

buck65 wrote: »

D'arcy and O Driscoll's places will be under pressure for the first time

From who? Trimble is the only other obvious candidate, and he hardly set the world alight during the 6N.

Niall o Connor will be ROG's apprentice.

Haven't seen any reason for him to leapfrog Sexton. NOC isn't even starting for Ulster atm.

Crash

buck65 wrote: »

IMO
Hayes and Quinlan both massive workhorses will probably chuck it in at international level. Stringer will be dropped. O Leary and Dowling will get on the panel.
D'arcy and O Driscoll's places will be under pressure for the first time and will no longer start automatically.
Fitzgerald, Kearney should start.
Dempsey will be retired. Hurley will be cover for Kearney.
Niall o Connor will be ROG's apprentice.
Cian Healy and Buckley will get more game time. Heaslip and Jennings also will feature.

Actually, I took heart a bit from O'Driscolls interviews after the magners league game (follows, with bits removed)

breakingnews wrote:

...

O’Driscoll only returned to action for Leinster’s trip to Murrayfield two weeks ago and, though he looked somewhat sluggish that night, his fitness and sharpness had improved immeasurably for Saturday’s Magners League title winning tie against the Dragons.

“I’m feeling sharper, I’ve lost a few pounds. I probably needed to. On the whole, it’s great. I’ve got the hunger for it again. I needed the six-week break. It’s been a long season and a little frustrating at times.

“The long lay-off got the head sorted along with the body. I’ve been excited going to training the last couple of weeks, which is nice. I want to finish (the season) on a high, playing the last few games well and hopefully going down and touring well.”

...

He definitely looked sharper, and as I don't see Fitz or Trimble threatening him for a starter yet, its a good sign.

Definitely see Kearney starting, fitz maybe a bit longer on the bench, Johnny Sexton to come into the 22 for the Ba Ba's match hopefully.

Stev_o

buck65 wrote: »

IMO
(1) O Leary and Dowling will get on the panel.

(2) Hurley will be cover for Kearney.

(3) Cian Healy and Buckley will get more game time. .

1) O' Leary has a long way to go before he's internationally ready. Dowling will never be internationally ready unless he gains alot of speed which is highly unlikely, as it stands he's too slow for a international winger and would be singled out

2) Again Hurley has a long way aswell

3) Healy wont get into the Irish set up for a few years he just doesnt have the experience and would be murded on the international level now. You said that Hayes would carry on so how would Buckley get more game time ?

Size=everything

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Ya i hope he picks (soon to be double heineken cup winners) munster players too...........

Like be serious on current form, heaslip, fitzgerald and ollie le roux!!

On serious note if judging from current form bar D'Arcy I can't see a single Leinster playing being dropped from the 22. Can't say the same for Munster I think there should be a shake up in the backrow and possibly at hooker, one things for certain Jackman should remain though hes been playing excellent. It will be a fight between Flannery and Best for no.2 spot.

LeoGilly

This could be the decider of new captain!! ROG or BOD!!???

dc69

RickyHatton wrote: »

On serious note if judging from current form bar D'Arcy I can't see a single Leinster playing being dropped from the 22. Can't say the same for Munster I think there should be a shake up in the backrow and possibly at hooker, one things for certain Jackman should remain though hes been playing excellent. It will be a fight between Flannery and Best for no.2 spot.

If it was me I would put Jackman,oconnell and Cullen in.Jackman has alot to offer and if we can supply him with a target man he is used to i.e Cullen.It could work well.

Obvioulsy O'Connell cant be dropped so ocallaghan has to be.

LeoGilly wrote: »

This could be the decider of new captain!! ROG or BOD!!???

That would be a bit of a kick in the face,if it happens it wont be for a while.

Size=everything

Stev_o wrote: »

1) O' Leary has a long way to go before he's internationally ready. Dowling will never be internationally ready unless he gains alot of speed which is highly unlikely, as it stands he's too slow for a international winger and would be singled out

2) Again Hurley has a long way aswell

3) Healy wont get into the Irish set up for a few years he just doesnt have the experience and would be murded on the international level now. You said that Hayes would carry on so how would Buckley get more game time ?

Agree with everything. O'Leary is nowhere near good enough right now and Dowling has a massive fundamental flaw.

Hurley will likely never be more than a fringe player in my opinion.

and of course Healy is nowhere near ready for international level, he would be destroyed in the scrum.


Though I do think Buckley should be starting he brings an edge to the game cant explain it, pure agression and eagerness

dc69

RickyHatton wrote: »

Though I do think Buckley should be starting he brings an edge to the game cant explain it, pure agression and eagerness

How much can buckely improve?

People say he isnt ready yet.

He isnt young and is a big big lad.If he cant do the job know,will he ever be good enough?

Crash

Its not so much improvement with Buckley, its match time at Tighthead he desperately needs.

buck65

I bet you guys were promoting change when EOS was there!
How will you ever get Healy and O leary and these guys up to international level if you don't try them now?
This attitude about players being murdered annoys me if they're good enough to play for Munster and Leinster then they should be tried on the next stage.
Also I said Hayes was finished at this level if you read my post.
O Driscoll and Darcy are creaking and a new centre pairing has to be developed as has a new out half. Surely we should be looking at youth not at the same people who have let us down for the past year so what if we get murdered down south.
Hayes, Dempsey , Quinlan are beyond it internationally.
O Driscoll and Darcy's best is behind them.
O Gara is vulnerable to injury and we need an experienced back up.
Jackman is worth another try - just about.
Unless we build now for the future we are staring down the road of mediocrity in next years 6 nations. Now is the time (like 2000 in Murrayfield )to ring the changes.

thehighground

buck65 wrote: »

I bet you guys were promoting change when EOS was there!
How will you ever get Healy and O leary and these guys up to international level if you don't try them now?
This attitude about players being murdered annoys me if they're good enough to play for Munster and Leinster then they should be tried on the next stage.
Also I said Hayes was finished at this level if you read my post.
O Driscoll and Darcy are creaking and a new centre pairing has to be developed as has a new out half. Surely we should be looking at youth not at the same people who have let us down for the past year so what if we get murdered down south.
Hayes, Dempsey , Quinlan are beyond it internationally.
O Driscoll and Darcy's best is behind them.
O Gara is vulnerable to injury and we need an experienced back up.
Jackman is worth another try - just about.
Unless we build now for the future we are staring down the road of mediocrity in next years 6 nations. Now is the time (like 2000 in Murrayfield )to ring the changes.

I think its all very simple - anyone who is first choice for their province should get a call-up, especially if their province is getting to HCup quarter finals

O'Leary is now first choice at Munster so he should definately be in the Ireland squad, along with Hurley. Healy isn't yet first choice at Leinster, so he shouldn't be picked to face the ABs.

Hayes or Quinlan are not beyond it internationally (other than you being ageist). There are a couple of contenders for Dempsey's position, so its not an issue. From what I saw of BOD the other night he is still the best Irish centre by a long shot - so I wouldn't be throwing him out just yet. Darcy is injured and hopefully he will get back to his old form - if not, Mafi may qualify next year and he is first choice now in Munster and of course Luuuke may move to 13.

Hopefully all of these will get game time with their province first of all - FFS, Luke isn't first choice at Leinster and it will be interesting to see if Sexton is first choice 10 in Leinster when Darcy comes back.

Podge_irl

thehighground wrote: »

I think its all very simple - anyone who is first choice for their province should get a call-up, especially if their province is getting to HCup quarter finals

Think that's pretty appalling logic myself, but anyway.

How will you ever get Healy and O leary and these guys up to international level if you don't try them now?

Healy isn't even first choice sub for Leinster. Playing someone in an international test does not suddenly get them to an acceptable international level. There is a hell of a lot left for Healy to learn at Leinster before even contemplating putting him in the Irish 22.
I occasionally got annoyed at EOS for not playing in-form players, not for not playing 20-year old props with a handful of starts for their province.

O Driscoll and Darcy are creaking and a new centre pairing has to be developed as has a new out half. Surely we should be looking at youth not at the same people who have let us down for the past year so what if we get murdered down south.

O'Driscoll has never "let us down". And by that logic the entire team should be dropped anyway. Who exactly is this youth you are talking about? Fitz has played two competitive senior provincial games at centre and just isn't an option yet. Trimble is next in line but showed nothing to suggest he should be ahead of D'Arcy/O'Driscoll. And who else exactly is there?
I bloody well care if Ireland get murdered down south, its a series of test matches and should be treated as such. Throwing a bunch of new players in and them losing badly in the name of experience is a waste of time for everyone involved. Players need to earn a call-up and then play in a near "full-strength" side to get any idea of their worth. Rotation is fine, throwing a load of new players in en masse is silly.

dc69

buck65 wrote: »

I bet you guys were promoting change when EOS was there!
How will you ever get Healy and O leary and these guys up to international level if you don't try them now?
This attitude about players being murdered annoys me if they're good enough to play for Munster and Leinster then they should be tried on the next stage.
Also I said Hayes was finished at this level if you read my post.
O Driscoll and Darcy are creaking and a new centre pairing has to be developed as has a new out half. Surely we should be looking at youth not at the same people who have let us down for the past year so what if we get murdered down south.
Hayes, Dempsey , Quinlan are beyond it internationally.
O Driscoll and Darcy's best is behind them.
O Gara is vulnerable to injury and we need an experienced back up.
Jackman is worth another try - just about.
Unless we build now for the future we are staring down the road of mediocrity in next years 6 nations. Now is the time (like 2000 in Murrayfield )to ring the changes.

Tomas O'Leary,get out of it,he will never be good enough.

Healy is too young.

O'Driscoll and Darcy will be good up till the next world cup.

Yes people called for Eddie to bring change.Kidneys promotes change even less than Eddie.Look at these young Munster players only being played now!wheres Earls gone?

Healy against NZ,are you taking the piss?

Crash

Throwing a bunch of new young players onto a pitch and expecting it to work just doesn't, basically.

Take for example the recent Munster Ulster game for example, on paper that was a very promising, young team. Hell, it still is. But what happened there was one of the simple facts of life in rugby, if you don't play regularly together, you will do badly.

Those lads would NEVER have had a chance prior to that to play in a team with a makeup like that, and without a cohesive core unit of experience it just goes to the dogs. What you need is a strong tight core of around 8-10 very experienced players, with younger players rotating into the positions of those ten on a stepped basis. Anything else is just foolishness.

[Jackass]

On form of this season and talent available I reckon the best Irish team would be:

1. Horan
2. Jackman
3. Hayes
4. Casey
5. Cullen
6. Wallace
7. Leamy/Jennings
8. Heaslip

9. Reddan
10. O'Gara
11. Fitzgerald
12. D'Arcy
13. O'Driscoll
14. Horgan
15. Kearney

SUBS:
16. Buckley, 17. Flannery, 18. O'Callaghan/O'Connell 19. Leamy/Jennings 20. Stringer/ O'Leary 21. Sexton/O'Connor 22. G.Murphy/Dempsey/Hurley

This leaves a pool of players outside of the first 22:
R. Best, Healy, O'Callaghan/O'Connell, O'Kelly, Hogan, Caldwell, Keogh, Sexton/O'Connor, N.Best, Ryan, Ronan, O'Leary/Stringer, O'Connor, Dunne, Dowling, Bowe, Trimble, Carney, G.Murphy/Dempsey/Hurley and Duffy.

In fairness, there's a great pool of players there for him to inherit, and great depth also. When thinking of that panel, the toughest position to think of any depth to was actually centre, which is not surprising consider Contepomi, Tipoki & Mafi have filled three of those four boots for most of this season in our 2 biggest provincial sides.

Interestingly enough, (and my selection is fully open to criticisim and disagreement) I am a Leinster fan, but I honest to god hand on heart picked what I believe to be the best available Irish team at present, and in that team there is a maximum of 5 Munster players or a maximum of 9 Leinster players.

Now do you honestly think Kidney would pick 9 Leinster players and 4 Munster players in his first 15, even if he thought it was the best available team to him on the day. Not a chance.

That's why I'm not a big fan of this appointment amongst other reasons, as I've said before, think he's a great coach, but if we were able to get them, someone like White or Jones imo would have been the right man for the Job. I think it's bad news for Munster and not great news for Ireland (Although he certainly has the ability and track record to prove me wrong and win grand slams and world cups!!)

toomevara

[Jackass] wrote: »

Now do you honestly think Kidney would pick 9 Leinster players and 4 Munster players in his first 15, even if he thought it was the best available team to him on the day. Not a chance.

...erm yes I do...alot of this is pointless speculation. Get behind the guy and give him a chance,maybe he'll pick the entire leinster first XV first time out, seems he's gonna have to to keep alot of folk on here from chucking their toys out the pram.....personally I couldn't give a fiddlers if he does a Gatland, as long as they win...

dc69

toomevara wrote: »

...erm yes I do...alot of this is pointless speculation. Get behind the guy and give him a chance,maybe he'll pick the entire leinster first XV first time out, seems he's gonna have to to keep alot of folk on here from chucking their toys out the pram.....personally I couldn't give a fiddlers if he does a Gatland, as long as they win...

I think you have just taken a select snippet from his post to spin.The post was good and true.Kidney wont do that and you know he wont.

Ulster wont be happy:)

anonymous_joe

It's in no way a surprise as an appointment, although I can imagine a lot of people, myself included would have preferred someone from abroad, someone like a Jake White or a Graham Henry. (Those are merely examples.)

Saying that, he's a very accomplished coach, whose done very well at Munster.

His Munster team has tended to be built on a very powerful scrum, with a lethally talented kicker behind them. My first worry would be that Ireland would go down this direction - we tried it against Wales - look what happened.

Ireland have some very talented players, we can only hope that Kidney will look beyond Munster, and indeed beyond Ireland.

On the basis of form/innate talent I would probably want:

1. Horan
2. Jackman
3. Hayes

4 and 5 would in all likelihood be PoC and DoC given the coach, though I'd love to see Cullen or Casey get a run in the team.

6.
7.
8.

This is where I can't predict anything. I would want Heaslip at 8, he's had a magnificent season. I'd wonder if Kidney would be interested in prolonging the career of Wallace, and maybe even some of the older hands in the Munster back row. Perhaps Leamy and Jennings would be the ideal 6 and 7, with Heaslip at 8.

9. Reddan on form, Stringer perhaps... Definitely not O'Leary (too inexperienced) or Boss (not quite good enough)
10. Guess.

11. Kearney/Fitzgerald
12. Should be D'Arcy, he's not on form, but no-one else is as good at 12. Whose Irish at least.
13. Briano. Has looked very sharp lately for Leinster.
14. Bowe. Shaggy doesn't look to be all there just yet. Like O'Driscoll during the WC and 6N, he looks tired. Give him a break.

15. Geordan Murphy. Still a superb runner from full back, not to mention brave, confident and assured. Will he go with young Hurley though?

toomevara

dc69 wrote: »

Ulster wont be happy:)

Munster aren't happy, Leinster aren't happy, ulster aren't happy..only in Ireland....how long before the first 'bring back Eddie' thread..hilarious

anonymous_joe

toomevara wrote: »

Munster aren't happy, Leinster aren't happy, ulster aren't happy..only in Ireland....how long before the first 'bring back Eddie' thread..hilarious

Serious or pisstake?

Eddie wasn't a bad coach, he was stuck in his ways. Hopefully he'll take the time to re-examine his coaching style, because he could be a superb coach to another team.

vorbis

Did I miss the match where Jackman rescued his international career???
Lads he was tried and found seriously wanting! The choice of hooker is now between Best and Flannery. Casey and Cullen for the locks ?? I wouldn't mind one of them along with POC.

Maybe it's my Munster bias, but Ian Dowling has been playing very well lately, he deserves a call up. Kearney has also looked decent at full back.
Here's my team.

1. Horan
2. Flannery
3. Hayes
4. Casey
5. Paul O Callaghan
6. Leamy
7. Wallace
8. Heaslip

9. Reddan
10. O'Gara
11. Dowling
12. D'Arcy
13. O'Driscoll
14. Bowe / Horgan
15. Kearney

anonymous_joe

Dowling over Fitzgerald...

He's not bad, but Dowling and pace met once at a party and didn't hit if off.

Not international level.

As for Jackman, he's been the most in-form Irish hooker this year, other than a couple of bad internationals, in a shockingly misfiring team.

And even for Ireland it was only his lineouts and one stupid shoulder charge that were bad. As for agression, Tipoki has a reputation, and Munster fans wouldn't leave him out of their side.

barnesd

I'm not a big fan of Judy, but I'm going to keep an open mind before slating him, and wait and see how he performs as coach. Eddie picked 15 players and decided that was his team, no matter what. I really don't think that's an approach Kidney will take.

vorbis

a hooker's main job is the lineouts!!
I agree that the whole team was playing poorly but I still thought he was especially bad. I remember Best coming on in one match and the lineout improving a bit.

Dowling ain't that slow, he's handy enough at getting on the end of moves and has been very solid defensively in the HC quarter and semi. I haven't seen too much of Luke Fitzferald, he's shown promise but has been overhyped by a few people.

Oilrig

I think one major difference between DK & EOS is that EOS seemed to pick his team on form - then look at tactics. DK seems to analyse what's required to beat the opposition - then pick the team to fit his strategy, (proper management in its purest form IMHO) it could mean very different teams for each match.

I have a hunch that we'll see a far bigger pool of players being involved with the national team in the years ahead.

The Captaincy will be very interesting...

dc69

vorbis wrote: »

Dowling ain't that slow, he's handy enough at getting on the end of moves and has been very solid defensively in the HC quarter and semi. I haven't seen too much of Luke Fitzferald, he's shown promise but has been overhyped by a few people.

Hes a hell of a lot better than Dowling.The most talented young player we have in the country imo

my backline from now on is....

9-Reddan/Stringer

10-ROG/Sexton

11-Fitzgerald/Bowe

12-Darcy

13-Bod

14-Kearney/Horgan

15-Murphy/Dempsey


Many of these guys can interlink,so the rest of the position regards backups cover themselves.

i.e fitz 13,kearney 15 etc

Anyway,sure we will have to wait until Kidneys first game in charge.who are we playing????

Then we can pass judgement.

Everyone here all wants the same thing and if Kidney can achieve that,then everyone will be singing from the same hymn sheet.

Crash

dc69 wrote: »

The most talented young player we have in the country imo

Just on this, I still think Kearney takes that badge, least from me. For two reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhbXo8HWuWQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUSANCkoX5s&feature=related

has the ability, and as well the sheer confidence to do it.

anyhow, back to the topic

Sangre

Forget Murphy and Dempsey, they're getting on. Just make Kearney the number 15 and be done with it. He has the attacking flair, his defence has become very strong, great boot and good in the air.