Back To The Old Pool

jonny68

Incredible line-up,the best in years, House Music legends, im 100% there for this.:cool:

seannash

im not just posting this to be contraversial but as far as an oldschool line up,its hardly the cream of the crop.
i wouldnt travel to the pool for that lineup but each to there own
hope you have fun
liverpools meant to be nuts for going out in

jonny68

seannash wrote: »

im not just posting this to be contraversial but as far as an oldschool line up,its hardly the cream of the crop.
i wouldnt travel to the pool for that lineup but each to there own
hope you have fun
liverpools meant to be nuts for going out in

if your into vintage House music i cant think of many better nites that have been on, these people are connoisseurs of House Music.

And yeah Liverpool is good for going out in alright:)

holton

To me that's a good line up. Very tempting!

jonny68

have to book tickets soon for this as they will sell out.

Fintomiginto

seannash wrote: »

im not just posting this to be contraversial but as far as an oldschool line up,its hardly the cream of the crop.
i wouldnt travel to the pool for that lineup but each to there own
hope you have fun
liverpools meant to be nuts for going out in

For somebody who doesnt think oldskool is as "good" as the new stuff, you have an awful lot of opinions. To be honest I don't hink you have a clue. Thats an absolutely brilliant line up.

seannash

Fintomiginto wrote: »

For somebody who doesnt think oldskool is as "good" as the new stuff, you have an awful lot of opinions. To be honest I don't hink you have a clue. Thats an absolutely brilliant line up.

yeah i dont think the old stuff is as good as the new.its common sense that its better.better technology means more sophisticated sounds production techniques which means better sounding tracks.
everything progresses,if you dont go with it people become stagnant(another point in that statement but i wont bring it up).
its like comparing a model t ford with a ford focus.im sure when the model t came out people were very excited.they thought look at this marvelous piece of technology.its ****ing amazing.but to compare it to a modern day equivalent is ridiculous.
so yeah its rididculous to even argue that modern day dance music hasnt improved over what came out 20 years ago.
i think these"wasnt as good as it was in my day"people need to be more open to these changes.
as for me being qualified to make such a statement you gotta remember ITS AN OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
people have them and guess what man,not everyones is the same as yours.
i merely said that i dont think the lineup merits a trip overseas.
if u2 were playing london would you fly over and see them there,dont think so.
but hey make the trip man,at the end of the day do what you want and dont even concern yourself with what a person in new york thinks of your current situation
now go have fun you cheeky old shool monkey.
oh little tip,keep it real oldschool and dont fly over,maybe row a boat over with all your mates:D
joke joke joke

Fintomiginto

seannash wrote: »

yeah i dont think the old stuff is as good as the new.its common sense that its better.better technology means more sophisticated sounds production techniques which means better sounding tracks.
everything progresses,if you dont go with it people become stagnant(another point in that statement but i wont bring it up).
its like comparing a model t ford with a ford focus.im sure when the model t came out people were very excited.they thought look at this marvelous piece of technology.its ****ing amazing.but to compare it to a modern day equivalent is ridiculous.
so yeah its rididculous to even argue that modern day dance music hasnt improved over what came out 20 years ago.
i think these"wasnt as good as it was in my day"people need to be more open to these changes.
as for me being qualified to make such a statement you gotta remember ITS AN OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
people have them and guess what man,not everyones is the same as yours.
i merely said that i dont think the lineup merits a trip overseas.
if u2 were playing london would you fly over and see them there,dont think so.
but hey make the trip man,at the end of the day do what you want and dont even concern yourself with what a person in new york thinks of your current situation
now go have fun you cheeky old shool monkey.
oh little tip,keep it real oldschool and dont fly over,maybe row a boat over with all your mates:D
joke joke joke

Im only 24 mate and I love my new music as much as my old skool.
I think the comparisons you make between old and new cars and such lark is totally irellevant and pointless in this argument.
So basically what your saying is the likes of Led Zeppelin from years ago are no where near as good as lets say "the killers" as music technology has evolved so much that Led Zeppelins music has being overtaken because the technology from back then is far inferior to now. I really dont get your points at all man. Sorry.

seannash

thought id replied to this already.
anyway.when you start opening up a discussion about dance music to other genres such as rock and roll then things get a bit more tricky.
the way rock and roll is recorded hasnt changed as drastically as the way dance music is produced.dance music is technology based music so to argue that the improvements made in technology hasnt effected the dance music being produced is ridiculous,of course its changed it for the beter
some of the greatest performances have been a person and an acoustic guitar.lyrical content is much more important than it is in dance music which is mainly instrumental music.
the car reference may have been a bit broad but you get my point.
now to argue that i dont have a clue about oldschool music when im actually the same age as you is also a bit presumptious.why would you be better equipped than me to comment on it when we both grew up at the same time.
if you dont get my point cool but i think its a valid point

jonny68

That has to be the most comical thing ive heard in a while, so by your reasoning because technology has improved so has the music jaysus ive heard it all now...Fintomiginto is right though, might not have anything to do with dance music when he makes a good point when he mentions comparing say the Killers a popular rock band today to Led Zeppelin from yesteryear, there is no comparasion Led Zeppelin would be far better , technology is important sure but that certainly doesn't equate to todays music being better when it clearly has not got a patch on the older stuff, and before you ask yes i do like a lot of stuff today but a lot of it is tripe and there is alack of originality.

seannash

the point raised in this thread is about DANCE MUSIC,DANCE MUSIC.think ill say it again for those at the back DANCE MUSIC.nothing else.
of course better technology leads to better dance music.all the other points arent relevant to this thread.
glad i made you laugh but i think your like a boy who laughs at ladybirds.sure its cute but you cant help but get the feeling something is very wrong.
how the hell can you argue technology hasnt led to better dance music.
clearly hasnt got a patch on the older stuff,cmon now!!!!!
rock and roll is a different beast altogether

seannash

even if you take your rock and roll analogy.
you guys would probably saying the same thing when the electric guitar came about,the synthesizer another example.these were all technological breakthroughs that allowed people to make better music so to argue technology doesnt play a part is a bit silly

Scubadevils

And now we have computers and software to mimic those original sounds. Doesn't make them better though, just more accessible.

seannash

so they have not improved the design of the electric guitar since it was first made,the first synth was so flawless that it didnt need improving.some synths over time got improved by adding midi capabilities,polyphony etc.
these days there are more complex effects,its not even a digital issue either.
better mics,desks monitors all contribute to better sounding music.
now look at the digital age,look at programmes like melodyne or the new omnishere synth.tell me thats not going to open a world of possibilities.
you lot are saying that at a certain point(when elctric guitars and synths were made)sound creation stopped, that the whole digital age was then spent making emanulations of these instruments.
how you can still deny new technology leads to better music is beyond me

Fintomiginto

I actually cannot believe your opinion sean. The majority of dance tunes now are fairly repetitive and have just one main breakdown. Wheras tunes from yesteryear have several breakdowns usually different to one another. There was more thought put into tunes and IMO a lot of tunes these days(not all of them) sound like they were concocted in a matter of mins.(I suppose these are the benefits of dance music technology) Dance music nowadays goes through phases where at any one point 50 or 60% of tunes of a particular genre actually sound remarkably similar. Electro and minimal house are great examples of this. Wheras years ago every tune produced was totally different to the next. I really think dance music has gone too far off its original flightpath and has left behind the sounds that made it so popular and fresh in the first place. A lot of tunes now have no feeling and actually sound like they came straight off a laptop and were constructed by some super geek who likes computer noises. (Sorry went on a bit there.) For me there aren't many tunes produced these days that give you the spine tingle. IMO to suggest that Dance music now is much better than dance music from years ago is absolutely wrong in so many ways. Its such a weird point to make. Do you think the average clubber knows the difference between a tune that was produced on a laptop to a tune that was produced on a drum machine and a synthesiser? I dont really think they would. At the end of the day its all about the music.

seannash

same can be said for any style of music these days,look at how many similar sounding emo bands there is.
every genre of music goes through popular phases.
in dance music technology is directly linked.
look at the equipment the oldschool producers had at there disposal and look now.you cant deny they have more variety,more sounds to choose from or create.
its like rock and roll having no distortion,wah,delay pedals and these were all advances in technology.
so by your reckoning weve reached a point where we cant generate anything new.
at least your acknowleging that im entitled to my opinion:D
when a new genre comes out its fresh.doesnt mean it cant be improved on.
oh and not to nitpick but most dance tunes have 2 breakdowns these days:D

jonny68

seannash wrote: »

same can be said for any style of music these days,look at how many similar sounding emo bands there is.
every genre of music goes through popular phases.
in dance music technology is directly linked.
look at the equipment the oldschool producers had at there disposal and look now.you cant deny they have more variety,more sounds to choose from or create.
its like rock and roll having no distortion,wah,delay pedals and these were all advances in technology.
so by your reckoning weve reached a point where we cant generate anything new.
at least your acknowleging that im entitled to my opinion:D
when a new genre comes out its fresh.doesnt mean it cant be improved on.
oh and not to nitpick but most dance tunes have 2 breakdowns these days:D

There is a severe lack of originality in dance music thesedays even the most fervent of "nu skooler" cant deny that, one just has to look at the amount of remixes of old skool classics being churned out.

seannash

jonny68 wrote: »

There is a severe lack of originality in dance music thesedays even the most fervent of "nu skooler" cant deny that, one just has to look at the amount of remixes of old skool classics being churned out.

show me any genre of popular music thats fresh.
the reason it was fresh and original was because it was new.
but thats straying off the topic.
you said before does the average clubber know that difference between a track produced on a laptop versus one that is made with hardware.you answered no but a few lines up you complain that everything these days sounds like it was made on a lappy.maybe your not an average clubber but thats a bit of a contradiction.
anyway like i said you cant deny the technology link.better technology leads to better sounding music.
as for originality,isnt that up to the artist,the only reason it doesnt sound fresh to you is because youve been exposed to too much of it.
as for remixes of oldschool classics,well people would call those updates right?i agree some should be left alone but updating old songs is done in every genre of music.
were going into different territory than was the initial argument.(all of which came about after i said nothing mallicious but i guess people took it the wrong way)
i think were going to have to agree to disagree.we both cant seem to grasp how the other thinks there point is relevant so lets just leave it there shall we:D

jonny68

I've been exposed to a lot of dance music you got that right, i would consider myself somewhat of a dance music encyclopedia

sound leave it at that.;)

seannash

:D:D
nice

Scubadevils

Best music was from this era to be honest, feck technological improvements and all that malarky.

http://www.ancientmusic.co.uk/ancientinstruments/

seannash

wheres that can of worms smiley when you need it:D

Scubadevils

There is this instead :pac:

seannash

i have no idea what that is:D

Scubadevils

I look on it as a generic smiley, can be used for all occasions where it's purpose is evident from what is typed!

seannash

nice,generic all purpose smiley it is

Scubadevils

seannash wrote: »

nice,generic all purpose smiley it is

:pac:

murfso

seannash wrote: »

im not just posting this to be contraversial but as far as an oldschool line up,its hardly the cream of the crop.
i wouldnt travel to the pool for that lineup but each to there own
hope you have fun
liverpools meant to be nuts for going out in

that comment did make me chuckle these people are the originators of chicago house Sean - these guys are the ones that brought the music to the UK and Ireland

this nite for all u oldskool lovers is one not to miss anyone thats coming over from Ireland make sure u come over and say hello

heres some you tube clips of the artists that are playing for anyone thats interested
Steve Silk Hurley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=633FyjLI5Gw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQcg-dRg5h4

Joe Smooth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3w4HIMHpY

Fast Eddie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkOvWzQGKw

Sterling Void

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btvzHcRQ49o

Jesse Saunders

i know this aint everyones cup of tea but for all the oldskool heads its defo not to be missed

seannash

god this thing again.i know the history(god dont bore me with it again:D)
they were great in there day,fantastic.all i said was that i didnt think it meritted a trip overseas!
nobody travels to england to see there favourite band right?

murfso

seannash wrote: »

god this thing again.i know the history(god dont bore me with it again:D)
they were great in there day,fantastic.all i said was that i didnt think it meritted a trip overseas!
nobody travels to england to see there favourite band right?

depends on how much u really like the band

Scubadevils

The DJ's playing at this are not likely to play here so I can see why one might travel... not an option for me this time though

murfso

Felixdhc wrote: »

The DJ's playing at this are not likely to play here so I can see why one might travel... not an option for me this time though

hiya felix i used to travel to liverpool every month for an oldskool nite i loved clubbing in ireland back in the early 90's went to some great nites and seen some wicked djs and pa's play i know what u mean about travelling though i was that spannered coming back from liverpool one weekend that i was in the queue for alicante and missed my flight to belfast

Scubadevils

murfso wrote: »

hiya felix i used to travel to liverpool every month for an oldskool nite i loved clubbing in ireland back in the early 90's went to some great nites and seen some wicked djs and pa's play i know what u mean about travelling though i was that spannered coming back from liverpool one weekend that i was in the queue for alicante and missed my flight to belfast

Yeah they were good times alright, becoming a distant memory now, and a hazy one!

Being from Belfast I take it you are a member of NIOLDSKOOL?

murfso

yeah im from belfast originally but i have been living in liverpool over a year = well into my oldskool music = i am an admin on www.piratervival.co.uk and play on the radio station thursday nites

Scubadevils

murfso wrote: »

yeah im from belfast originally but i have been living in liverpool over a year = well into my oldskool music = i am an admin on www.piratervival.co.uk and play on the radio station thursday nites

Cool, looks a pretty busy site alright, must have a goo around it Link not working above, the 'e' is missing in 'revival' - how true that is too

murfso

oops sorry its www.piraterevival.co.uk my fingers are like sausages :P

jonny68

Tonites the nite :pac::D:D:D:D:D

holton

Well Jonny, how did it go?

jonny68

Yeah i went alright amazing nite as expected, fcuk me some of the tunes played were amazing and a lot ive never even heard of and id consider myself somewhat of an encloypedia of old skool, Steve Silk Hurley was amazing,he played some amazing tunes,his mixing and selection of tunage was the best ive seen in recent times even played a few tunes from the late 90's and even a few recent ones, Fast Eddie done a brilliant PA and the rest were also top notch, great music, nice crowd and overall a superb nite of uplifting music from Chicago House music legends.

I'll upload some video's i shot this week.

holton

Sounds great Jonny. Any videos?