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Bald People Doing Weights

  • 30-04-2008 10:30am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭


    2 papers last week said that studies showed that people who do weight training tend to go bald , as its raises testosterone and that acts like an acid and kills hair cells

    i swear i aint lying just read it on monday

    anybody else read it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    Just thinking aloud here but afaik weight lifting doesn't cause the hormonal imbalance that in turn causes hair loss. Unless you're helping your bodybuilding by taking a little extra in your supplements ;)

    Just thinking aloud though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    It was in The Sun. It must be true...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Common enough side effect of steroid taking + poorly thought out jumps to natural test increase = stupid journalist.

    Who knew?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Ouijaboard


    Its a bit of a myth really, the reality is that if you have the mpb gene then heavy weight training increases test levels enough that the extra free test binds to DHT which can kill your hair. It can basically make you go bald 'faster' than the normal process. But if you have the mpb gene you would be balding anyway so its no big deal, just an acceleration of the process. If you dont have the mpb gene then weight training isnt gonna make a damn bit of difference to your hair on your head.
    On the other hand if dabbling in certain steroids anything can happen including loosing more than hair.
    Theres alot of myths about causes of baldness. In theory masturbation/sex raises test levels aswell so they can also make you go bald.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldness#Exercise


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    If testosterone caused hair loss, why then do men get balder as they get older, when test production is in decline?

    Testosterone doesn't cause baldness, Dihydrotestosterone, which is a relation, does. Someone who is going to go bald is going to go bald - lifting weights isn't going to have any tangible impact.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    there is another side affect of this...people seem to be getting injured when they slag bald people who do weights...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    My dad's bald. Does that mean he does weights...??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    What an article. Give that guy an award!!! :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    The Sun wrote:
    Women who lifted weights suffered the same side-effect.

    Haven't seen many bald women around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Baldie


    So that's what happened to me....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    I just did a quick rewrite of that article for you all:

    "Yeaaaaaah mate see them baldies wot lift weights got that way from doin it like! Some fackin science blokes said it or sumfin! We're lovin it we are! Elton John's a puffter! Robbie Williams if a fatty werreeghhh"

    Think that's a bit more Sun-like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    I don't do heavy lifting cos I don't want to get too big bald! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    javaboy wrote: »
    I don't do heavy lifting cos I don't want to get too big bald! :D

    Yeah and when you stop lifting all the muscle turns directly into fat and you turn into a hairy gorilla (see: Sampras, Pete)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭cance


    theres an element of truth to it. if you suffer from male pattern baldness, after a hard lifting session you have a greater than usual amount of testosterone swimming around your body. this excess testosterone will in turn be converted into DHT attacking your hair follicles and causing them to close up slowly.

    if you suffer from MPB, testosterone induced work outs will quicken the process of hair loss. if you don't suffer MPB, it wont cause you to lose your hair.

    at the end of the day, i'd prefer to be a slim and trim baldy than a fat and unhealthy brush head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭t-ha


    I need to find some info to back me up on this, but AFAIK the increase in testosterone after a heavy lifting session is VERY temporary (in the order of an hour or two) and followed by a much longer lull in test levels (in the order of a day or two) so overall someone who trains alot should have less test -> DHT conversion based on testosterone levels alone.

    Basically, someone who doesn't train has higher average testosterone levels than someone who does - an effect made more dramatic when the trained person is doing more endurance type work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Ouijaboard


    You're right t-ha;
    http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/B/2003851.html

    I got a bit anal about this back when I thought I was losing my hair, in reality it was just a mature hairline and I was a fussy youngster back then :)

    I think it comes down in the end to whether you are your follicles are genetically predisposed to be sensitive to androgens present in the scalp. There is not a whole lot known as to 'why' baldness happens but it seems to mimic something like an auto-immune response in those that are predisposed. Some say its all DHT, some say its both DHT and testosterone, some say DHT kills the crown and testosterone kills the front etc. Nobody really knows for absolute certain but it seems that any exercise induced change in hormone is too brief to do any damage either way and that baldness only comes from a prolonged attack by DHT/test over a number of years.

    Two things tho, testosterone drops as we get older but it seems the scalp follicles becomes weaker at holding off the attack from dht, hence the reason almost all males show 'some' hairloss past 50 years old.
    Also its a well known fact that balding males who are castrated have a complete and utter halt in any further hairloss. I guess if you were castrated tho you'd have other things to worry about other than hair :)


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