"hurling grip"

staker

i'm 34 and have been playing "golf" on and off for about 10 years now. as the weather is improving and the season kicks off again i've just bought my first new set of clubs.
i was out again today and shot only ok. the thing is, as long as ive been playing ive always had the "hurling grip" ie right hand above the left on a right handed club. my 2 compadres both have the conventional grip and are beginning to constantly outscore me, and i'm really having a rethink.
whereas until recently i,ve been matching them on their drives (about 180 - 200), they've begun to excel and i'm losing ground fast.. i have a very short backswing and cant deliver the power off the green or on a long iron,have tried to swop but it's nigh on impossible. i've used left handed clubs to no avail too.
what will i do? would a tutor help?

Double O

first of all stop using that grip, it doesnt work and you wont be anyway consistant or get any decent distance with it. then get a lesson or two i would suggest. you should be driving the ball further than 200 yards, extend and slow down the backswing.

But sort out the grip anyway!

goodburger

i knew a guy with the hurley grip, he never ever did really well, he always did just ok, he decided to change the grip and now he does well and his handicap has improved and he is a happier golfer, go spend a few months with a new traditional grip and enjoy the rewards in the not too distant future.

HITMANHEALY

Im have been golf since about 12 not regularly as i play pirch and putt alot now, i got my handicap down to about 7 and now its 11 cause i dont play that often (prob 3 times a year) Im 27 now and i dont tbhink i will change i can drive the ball as long as a normal grip so even go to a pro in one of the gold clubs and see about lessons, they know what there talking about, he told me to stay what im doing if im not taken the game serious

celica140bhp

Hi staker,
I learnt golf using the hurling grip and did pretty well for a lot of years using it - got down to an 8 handicap - but knew in the back of my mind that I had to change it at some stage if I wanted to get better. So I took the plunge, got a lesson from a pro, changed the grip and spent about two years on the range before I got myself back to being able to play off 8 again. It was a hard and frustrating two years but I'm glad I did it. I'd recommend you do it also - you'll hit the ball further, more consistently and won't feel stupid standing on the 1st tee with people watching your "unusual" swing!!!!
I made the change in my early thirties so you can too!

OilBeefHooked2

staker wrote: »

i'm 34 and have been playing "golf" on and off for about 10 years now. as the weather is improving and the season kicks off again i've just bought my first new set of clubs.
i was out again today and shot only ok. the thing is, as long as ive been playing ive always had the "hurling grip" ie right hand above the left on a right handed club. my 2 compadres both have the conventional grip and are beginning to constantly outscore me, and i'm really having a rethink.
whereas until recently i,ve been matching them on their drives (about 180 - 200), they've begun to excel and i'm losing ground fast.. i have a very short backswing and cant deliver the power off the green or on a long iron,have tried to swop but it's nigh on impossible. i've used left handed clubs to no avail too.
what will i do? would a tutor help?

Hi Staker,
Yes I'd recommend a visit to a pro and he'll work you through the changes.
There's no doubt about it that you'll have to lose the "hurling grip" as you'll never be able to get the distance and consistency a conventional grip can give you.
Also when you do take the plunge and correct your grip, it'll feel strange/arkward for awhile, but I can gaurantee you when you do change and begin to feel comfortable with it, you'll wonder how you ever managed to play using the "hurling grip" and you'll never look back again.

Best of luck with it and let us know how you get on.

WHIP IT!

A friend of mine made the switch 18 months ago, he was a decent 14 handicap at the time and now is a far superior player and playing to about 10. He went about it the right way, used the winter period, got a good coach and worked hard at it. Now he doesn't know how he ever played cack-handed.

uberwolf

Played a round with a chap once doing this. Reasonable golfer (13 afair), but the contortions his wrists went though to get the club back were so difficult that consistency would be very difficult I would have thought

Golferx

One of the skills of the better players is being able to shape one's shots, i.e. move the ball, in flight, either left to right, or visa versa. It's not possible to acquire this skill using the cack-handed grip. (Because the effectiveness of the Right hand is negated by it's position.)

Just because something feels comfortable, does not mean it's right. The Corollary is also true, just because something feels uncomfortable, does not mean it's wrong.

Look at all the top amateur and professional players. They use the grip that works best. Not one of them uses the cack-handed grip.

Golf is a game where you have to know what you are doing correctly as well as what you are dong wrong. Get to know the correct grip, take some lessons from a pro and practise like hell. It will be worth it in the end. Moving to the correct grip should take three or four shots off one's handicap.

staker

cheers for all the advice folks. pulled a muscle in the back at work last week, so i've not been out. looks like i'll be changing the grip from what i've read here. am determined, just gotta keep the faith!! gonna have more questions lol!!!!

eagle eye

Double O wrote: »

first of all stop using that grip, it doesnt work and you wont be anyway consistant or get any decent distance with it. then get a lesson or two i would suggest. you should be driving the ball further than 200 yards, extend and slow down the backswing.

But sort out the grip anyway!

I know four people playing off handicaps ranging from 2 to 4 and a lot more playing under 10 handicap who use the hurley grip.
So please don't give out wrong advice, lest you know what you are talking about.
Basically, your short game is much more important than hitting the ball far.

I would suggest you work on your short game and if you are still behind your mates after that, then maybe go for lessons, but remember that you are going to suffer for quite a while if you do take lessons.

Mad_Max

eagle eye wrote: »

Basically, your short game is much more important than hitting the ball far.

I would suggest you work on your short game and if you are still behind your mates after that, then maybe go for lessons, but remember that you are going to suffer for quite a while if you do take lessons.

Defo agree there. I can get the ball up toward the green pretty quickly but from there its downhill. I've been working on the short game a LOT more recently and it's paying off.

I also have played with someone who used the hurley grip, think he was a 13/14 handicap can't remember but he wasn't half bad. There's been a few professionals who've used it I believe so it can be used.

OilBeefHooked2

Mad_Max wrote: »

Defo agree there. I can get the ball up toward the green pretty quickly but from there its downhill. I've been working on the short game a LOT more recently and it's paying off.

I also have played with someone who used the hurley grip, think he was a 13/14 handicap can't remember but he wasn't half bad. There's been a few professionals who've used it I believe so it can be used.

Examples?

WHIP IT!

david-k wrote: »

Examples?

There was one anyway - cos I remember seeing him play on the Champions Tour a few years ago. I don't think he had any kind of career worth getting excited about but still was obviously good enough to become a pro... Not sure, think he might have been a black guy if that rings any bells with anyone?

davemac83

The guys name was Sewsunker and he played in South Africa, even beat Gary Player by all accounts in the South African Open. Didn't get to play abroad for reason (I presume for aparthide reasons???).

A lot of part time amateur golfers play the sewsunker grip. At the end of the day it's all about what your expectations are. I'm a fair weather golfer and play cack handed, but I play that way because I'm comfortable with it. Out over the weekend took 35 points on a par 70 course (playing from a 18 handicap).

irishtoffee

Mate of mine plays off 4 with the hurling grip.

staker

cheers for all the replies lads/lassies.
well i've been to the range about twice weekly for the last month working on the conventional grip. i'm really really p****d off at this stage!
i can't get no feel for it at all. i still haven't caught the ball sweetly with a short iron, which is my preferred game on the hurling grip. any 3 wood or driver ends up absolutely nowhere. i've had pointers from 3 or 4 others, one friend came out with me 4 times!! it really is to no avail.
i guess i've been using my grip too long! i'm a bit disappointed but having read above posts i think i'll stick to it too.i'll never be a tiger nor never want to be either.
one good thing;i understand my swing an awful lot better now. i've a lot more control over it and since trying to change i've actually played my best golf on course ever.
i shot a 92 (no great shakes to some i know) last sunday, which is great for me!!
cheers again for all the advice. i think ye'll guess by now that i'm gonna give up on the "other" swing. roll on lower scores!!

MaxPower89

eagle eye wrote: »

I know four people playing off handicaps ranging from 2 to 4 and a lot more playing under 10 handicap who use the hurley grip.
So please don't give out wrong advice, lest you know what you are talking about.
Basically, your short game is much more important than hitting the ball far.

I would suggest you work on your short game and if you are still behind your mates after that, then maybe go for lessons, but remember that you are going to suffer for quite a while if you do take lessons.

so you think advising people to change to the normal grip is wrong?

there is a reason you dont see any pros using the g

WHIP IT!

staker wrote: »

cheers for all the replies lads/lassies.
well i've been to the range about twice weekly for the last month working on the conventional grip. i'm really really p****d off at this stage!
i can't get no feel for it at all. i still haven't caught the ball sweetly with a short iron, which is my preferred game on the hurling grip. any 3 wood or driver ends up absolutely nowhere. i've had pointers from 3 or 4 others, one friend came out with me 4 times!! it really is to no avail.
i guess i've been using my grip too long! i'm a bit disappointed but having read above posts i think i'll stick to it too.i'll never be a tiger nor never want to be either.
one good thing;i understand my swing an awful lot better now. i've a lot more control over it and since trying to change i've actually played my best golf on course ever.
i shot a 92 (no great shakes to some i know) last sunday, which is great for me!!
cheers again for all the advice. i think ye'll guess by now that i'm gonna give up on the "other" swing. roll on lower scores!!

Did you get lessons or just try and change it by yourself?? If the latter then you're on a sure road to disaster... It can be done, but only with the help of a good pro.

staker

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Did you get lessons or just try and change it by yourself?? If the latter then you're on a sure road to disaster... It can be done, but only with the help of a good pro.

No, i tried it myself. I guess i'm not gonna be seeing the final day on the european tour,gotta stick to the day job and continue to enjoy golf as a hobby!

WHIP IT!

staker wrote: »

No, i tried it myself. I guess i'm not gonna be seeing the final day on the european tour,gotta stick to the day job and continue to enjoy golf as a hobby!

You sure? It can be done with the help of a good pro... Don't give up, you were trying the impossible by going it alone imo.

The Rooster

When you ever make a fundamental change, you will almost always get better worse before you get better. You need patience.

Trying to make a fundamental change without the help of lessons from a professional is a complete waste of time and effort, in my opinion.

Tipperman

The Rooster wrote: »

When you ever make a fundamental change, you will almost always get better worse before you get better. You need patience.

Trying to make a fundamental change without the help of lessons from a professional is a complete waste of time and effort, in my opinion.

In fairness Stalker, you need to be very comfortable in your own way of playing... It doesn't matter what way you hit once your on line.. Your short game will suffer bigtime as you will have no feel for a long time when you change over the grip.. I use the Hurley Grip all the time but I haven't played golf in 3 years as I play Pitch and Putt all the time.. I finished playing golf off 4.... I suppose I hit it between 200 & 250 and I had a very short backswing.. Iron play is major and someone suggested that you can't shape shots.. That is simply not true if you have the right technique any shot is playable IMO....I would suggest you stick with it and you will gain more confidence and beat your buddies in the next couple of weeks...

Best of Luck and let us know what you actually decide to do in the end... Golfers frown upon Hurley Grippers as they think it is not ethical to play that way.. Once you are comfortable your winning in itself.. It is so hard to do play a shot when you KNOW that you feel wrong;)

Genco

For what its worth you could try one of those moulded grip trainers to get used to the "feel" of how to hold the club. Maybe use it for 5-10 minutes each evening while sitting down watching the TV.

Either way as long as you enjoy the game thats what counts

Golferx

Tipperman wrote: »

.............. Golfers frown upon Hurley Grippers as they think it is not ethical to play that way.. ...........

Not ethical? How is it not ethical ?

Tipperman

Golferx wrote: »

Not ethical? How is it not ethical ?

Well all I know is that in the Club that I played for a couple of years back didn't like that I was winning prizes with unconventional grip... I just kept winning and smiling at them whilst they smoked their pipes and talked ****e!!!!!;)

That was the ethical side things I had to put up with.. They couldn't just say well done, your playing well and keep it up... Imagine I was actually left off some of the teams incase I might embarrass them...:mad: Oh jaysus I could go on for years on this

Golferx

Ethics is to do with cheating, you were being accosted by begrudgery.

Tipperman

Golferx wrote: »

Ethics is to do with cheating, you were being accosted by begrudgery.

The cheating side of things would certainly never happen but they believed it was morally wrong to play the game unorthodox which is very small minded....

Par72

Tipperman wrote: »

The cheating side of things would certainly never happen but they believed it was morally wrong to play the game unorthodox which is very small minded....

I find this hard to imagine, I've seen people with some God awful unorthodox swings and they haven't been frowned upon let alone declared morally wrong! I'd imagine you'd have to be playing with the club up your @rse before it would deemed morally wrong (whatever that is!). Maybe it was just the particular club you were in.

Tipperman

Par72 wrote: »

I find this hard to imagine, I've seen people with some God awful unorthodox swings and they haven't been frowned upon let alone declared morally wrong! I'd imagine you'd have to be playing with the club up your @rse before it would deemed morally wrong (whatever that is!). Maybe it was just the particular club you were in.

Agreed

Reason why I don't play there or play golf anymore...Don't have the time now anyway so find Pitch & Putt fits me perfect....:o

staker

probably shouldn't be adding here,but i've gone and signed up for beginner classes being run by a pro.
it's one of those VEC run classes for beginners,so i'm going to see what advice i'll get.
thing is,will i tell the instructor i've already played with the hurling grip or will i start afresh as a newbie and not let on anything at all?
i'm opting towards the latter cos quite frankly,i'm getting nowhere with my game as i stand.
or will i just face fact and accept i'm ****:D

GreeBo

One of the major benefits (in my opinion) of having a relatively standard grip/swing is that you can pretty much get a lesson from any PGA pro and they will be able to relate to you. If you are unorthodox then its harder for the pro to see past that and address your specific issue.

As mentioned above, I think your best bet is to buy a moulded grip and stick it on a short iron. Keep this with you as often as possible using the "correct" grip. Changing your grip is going to feel awful for a lot of golf balls, at least doing it this way once it become comfortable you will have a perfect grip. You dont want to change your current grip for a different bad one.
Swing and chip with this out in the back garden, it will soon lose *that* feeling.

Ignore your scores for the moment, they are probably going to be terrible for quite a while.

Id really advise getting as many lessons as possible, its all going to feel awful to you, so, as with the new grip, you might as well get a great swing at the same time. Otherwise you will get a great grip with a poor swing and have to unlearn that aswell.

Best of luck.

zefer

staker wrote: »

probably shouldn't be adding here,but i've gone and signed up for beginner classes being run by a pro.
it's one of those VEC run classes for beginners,so i'm going to see what advice i'll get.
thing is,will i tell the instructor i've already played with the hurling grip or will i start afresh as a newbie and not let on anything at all?
i'm opting towards the latter cos quite frankly,i'm getting nowhere with my game as i stand.
or will i just face fact and accept i'm ****:D

Sorry for bringing this back up but how did you get on with this?

I play with "hurley" grip as well and would be interested in hearing how you got on??

Trankton

I don't see the need to play with the standard grip. I play cack-handed, changed over for years and never improved, went back to hurley grip and have flown since. Had a lesson last week and said to him 'I don't use normal grip' and he said 'there is NO normal grip, you do what suits you' and told me not to change back to standard.

Golf is all about what suits you and what you're comfortable with. I can play either way now but still prefer cack handed and get a lot more distance on drives than I do with standard grip.

Each to their own I say.

WaldenByThoreua

The guy McElhinney beat in the British Amateur final in 04? was cack handed and off plus 3...use whatever works!

saram

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/sport-news/golf-news/2008/06/15/what-a-load-of-cack-78057-20607798/

To each their own.. I say! I use and like this grip but like many have been told it's all wrong!!

This grip was originally called the SewSunker Grip..

I liked this reply in another forum.. (Plenty of views on this too)
http://www.golfmagic.com/forum/forummessages/mps/utn/2157/dt/4/srchdte/0/v/1/sp/
Hi Guys,
Let me put one thing staright any professional that says a Sewsunker grip, (that's what it is called after the great Papwa Sewsunker), is in anyway a problem to your game tell them they do not know what they are stalking about. This makes me so mad that people who know nothing about the grip still give their opinions even if they are way off the mark.

The Sewsunker Grip, left hand below right is a grip that is as old as the game itself and if anyone knows anything about golf they will know that Papwa Sewsunker beat Gary Player among others in the SOuth Africa Open in the 1960s he also won the Dutch Open 3 times, why did you not hear of him more, he was not given the opportunity to play teh game as much as others whit golfers in other countries.

Another great golfer is the Scottish amateur Gallagher who may be playing for his country soon.


Gallagher wouldn't be the first Scotsman to play cack-handed for his country. Jim Hay played cack-handed for Scotland back in the 1970s.


A few players in the past have managed to go on to professional success playing cack-handed. Asian golfer Seesunker Sewgolum won three Dutch Opens (1959, 1960 and 1964) playing that way. South Africa's Vincent Tshabalala currently plays on the European Senior Tour with a the Sewsunker method.

So, gentlemen, let nobody fool you, this grip is excellent, I personally drive, very straight, over 300 yards, so do not listen to the uneducated opinions of so-called pros who know nothing about this grip.

If you would like to discuss it more, contact me at info@european-golf.org

Keep them flying with your Sewsunker grips out there!



Now a!!!!

staker

zefer wrote: »

Sorry for bringing this back up but how did you get on with this?

I play with "hurley" grip as well and would be interested in hearing how you got on??

Sorry Zefer, only saw this now:(

Well, I dida 6 week course, 2 hrs each Wenesday.
First off, I had changed the grip and had a couple of rounds under my belt with the correct grip.
The pro told me I'd done the right thing when I told him I'd changed over.
I was holding the club way too tight on the grip to be able to relax the swing, as it was very rushed,was his first observation.
Each week he'd pull me to one side and give me a few extra tips, "emptying the club of water" on the backswing, the old"Elizabeth Hurley, not Kate Bush. etc.
I'm playing far better golf now, a lot more confident in my swing.
My short game suffered the worst, and still does, as the "feel" of the club still isn't there. Putting is still hard too, but I'm slowly getting the weight of the putt.
My long game is the best part of the switchover, my drive is consistently 190-200 yds which was impossible to me on the hurling grip.
I shot 95 last sunday, unheard of before... I hope to improve on that before the year's out.
Loads and loads of shots on the range, AND patience!:D
Best of luck either which way...

Famous45

I play with the hurling grip since my youth, I played off as low as 5 when I a teen. My long game is still there, I'd drive the ball 250 consistently, my short game is sketchy and I put it down to lack of practice, not the way I hold my golf club. I align myself perfectly for most shots and putt respectably. I ain't going to disagree that changing would not enhance my game because it's something I have never thought about, as said numerously I feel comfortable with how I play and there is no reason, at this stage of my life, to go changing things and fall out of love with the game as for me it's pure enjoyment. But best of luck if you take the route of changing things.

Jimmy Iovine

staker wrote: »

My short game suffered the worst, and still does, as the "feel" of the club still isn't there. Putting is still hard too, but I'm slowly getting the weight of the putt.

I dont think its fully necessary to change your putting grip. I read in one of those free golfing magazines in my club that a cack-handed grip can be very useful for putting. I'm left handed now so reverse everything but when I putt with a normal grip my shoulders line up to the right of the hole. If I change to the cack-hand it corrects itself and is aligned straight to the hole. Padraig Harrington has been using this grip when putting for a while so it seems to work anyway. I'd say stick with your old putting grip and dont bother with the normal one. In the long run it should hopefully work out for you. Keep practicing and the best of luck with it

zefer

I actually went for lesson the other night and the pro said he was happy to teach me using either grip.
I am going to try keep the "hurley" grip and see how I get on.

As regards putting, the pro told me that the "hurley" grip is actually very good for putting as Jimmy Iovine says

soundsham

change your grip if you want to be more succesful imo
you can putt either way,but for your long game your kidding yourself if your taking golf seriously playing cack handed............theres always a few to suceed, but as far as i know there are only 2 guys in single figures at our club that play this way,not that too many play that way i suppose maybe its a good average,but i would think they would have all changed

davemac83

soundsham wrote: »

change your grip if you want to be more succesful imo
you can putt either way,but for your long game your kidding yourself if your taking golf seriously playing cack handed............theres always a few to suceed, but as far as i know there are only 2 guys in single figures at our club that play this way,not that too many play that way i suppose maybe its a good average,but i would think they would have all changed

Ah here give over, it's not like anyone hear is talking about tackling Tiger, Padraig etc. in the coming months. It's a game, simple as that. As long as you enjoy it and you can fulfil your expectations of your game then thats what it's all about.

I think we should arrange a cack handed vs orthodox style team event to settle this argument once and for all :D:D:D

soundsham

take it easy yourself there partner,
all im giving is my opinion, do what you like i don't care if you swing the club tied to your big toe (don't need ban again so will not post what body part in my mind;)).....

Famous45

lol good thinking davemac

brick tamland

Another Hurley grip player here. I'm a very occasional player and play off 18, Not going to change now as I've used it since i started playing pitch and putt when i was 6 or 7. As for distance I drive it further than some of my single figure handicapped friends. what lets me down is just being erratic and slicing and mis-hitting to many shots and I put that down to only playing 6-7 times a year

DU.LLAHAN

staker wrote: »

No, i tried it myself. I guess i'm not gonna be seeing the final day on the european tour,gotta stick to the day job and continue to enjoy golf as a hobby!

I used to play cack handed until this year got a couple of lessons i was a 22 gone out to 24 now but gettin better with every round. I tried to change my grip myself years ago but to no avail, i got tips from friends and they gave me pointers but if they werent any pga pros so i went to a pro and my game just bellyfloped it was like i never picked up a club. i stuck to it and my game is steadlity improving again. i'm hittin shots that i wouldnt have beein able to last year. i used to be able to drive like you 180- 200 and was happy but now i can do that with a 3 wood. you will get worse before you get better thats a gaurntee i 'm hoping of gettin down to a 20 by end of year and i feel like i will just need to practice alot more. it just takes time

golfbgud

My golfing buddy plays with a hurling grip and plays to his handicap of 18 consistently.

On a different note I was beaten this week in the Club 4 ball quarter final on the 19th by a guy who was also using this grip. He was smacking it nicely and quite happy as is.....

maynooth_rules

Im really going to have to read through all this thread. Im really getting into my golf and consider changing my grip. Im above average but im getting terrible hooks in my drivers and irons off the tee. Tried everything to get rid of it but im convinced that my grip is causing it:(

PeterJamesDoyle

There is a new thread regarding the hurley grip today. Judging by some of the earlier posts, I think they're going to round up all ye hurley grip players, and send you to prison. There you will undergo interrigation and torture until you submit to the orthodox grip.:D

shanejunkin

saram wrote: »

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/sport-news/golf-news/2008/06/15/what-a-load-of-cack-78057-20607798/

To each their own.. I say! I use and like this grip but like many have been told it's all wrong!!

This grip was originally called the SewSunker Grip..

I liked this reply in another forum.. (Plenty of views on this too)
http://www.golfmagic.com/forum/forummessages/mps/utn/2157/dt/4/srchdte/0/v/1/sp/
Hi Guys,
Let me put one thing staright any professional that says a Sewsunker grip, (that's what it is called after the great Papwa Sewsunker), is in anyway a problem to your game tell them they do not know what they are stalking about. This makes me so mad that people who know nothing about the grip still give their opinions even if they are way off the mark.

The Sewsunker Grip, left hand below right is a grip that is as old as the game itself and if anyone knows anything about golf they will know that Papwa Sewsunker beat Gary Player among others in the SOuth Africa Open in the 1960s he also won the Dutch Open 3 times, why did you not hear of him more, he was not given the opportunity to play teh game as much as others whit golfers in other countries.

Another great golfer is the Scottish amateur Gallagher who may be playing for his country soon.


Gallagher wouldn't be the first Scotsman to play cack-handed for his country. Jim Hay played cack-handed for Scotland back in the 1970s.


A few players in the past have managed to go on to professional success playing cack-handed. Asian golfer Seesunker Sewgolum won three Dutch Opens (1959, 1960 and 1964) playing that way. South Africa's Vincent Tshabalala currently plays on the European Senior Tour with a the Sewsunker method.

So, gentlemen, let nobody fool you, this grip is excellent, I personally drive, very straight, over 300 yards, so do not listen to the uneducated opinions of so-called pros who know nothing about this grip.

If you would like to discuss it more, contact me at info@european-golf.org

Keep them flying with your Sewsunker grips out there!



Now a!!!!

Sorry, that's complete b**lsh1t (not the facts, the belief that there's no issue with that grip)

How many of today's top 100 play with that grip? The top 200? ... zero

Any major champions in the past forty years? ... No

Any decent club golfer with this grip is an anomaly (fair play to them personally) but the grip is fundamentally flawed.

shanejunkin

maynooth_rules wrote: »

Im really going to have to read through all this thread. Im really getting into my golf and consider changing my grip. Im above average but im getting terrible hooks in my drivers and irons off the tee. Tried everything to get rid of it but im convinced that my grip is causing it:(

Gripping it left hand below right and hooking it violently left? ... Yeah, that's mostly down to your grip. Change it now, it'll feel awkward but it'll serve you best in future.