Is this car parked illegaly??

timemachine

Can anybody help on this. There is a car parked outside my house on the road(Not in a parking space). The car has been there or 1 month now, sitting idle. The car isnt in the way but it is taking up 2 parking spaces where other neighbours would usually park, is this allowed as the car isnt being used, and asked 3 of my neighbours if it is theirs, so nobody knows who owns this car.

Fey!

Are the spaces marked as individual spaces, or is it a space in front of the 2 houses with no lines?

Ring the gardai and tell them there's a suspicious car parked there and give them the reg, make, model, and colour. Also do the same with your local corporation, explaining that it seems to be an abandoned car. If it's a foreign reg, ring customs.

VH

Wow, hold on there. Is the car causing an obstruction? Is it taxed etc?

Don't go ringing anyone if you have no grounds to be ringing them on.

Tigger

is it taxed
if yes then it is ok if no it can be moved

Fey!

VH wrote: »

Wow, hold on there. Is the car causing an obstruction? Is it taxed etc?

Don't go ringing anyone if you have no grounds to be ringing them on.

The reason for ringing Gardai or customs is that it may be a stolen car left parked up until the "heat" has died down a bit on it; not, unfortunately, an uncommon practice.

Sherifu

VH wrote: »

Wow, hold on there. Is the car causing an obstruction? Is it taxed etc?

Don't go ringing anyone if you have no grounds to be ringing them on.

I agree.

seamus

Make a note of the reg and ring the Gardai regardless. If it's stolen, you've just told them where it is. If it's not, there's no harm done.

TheBazman

I believe if the number plates were to mysteriously go missing then the council have to remove the car

GBX

As per another topic on parking on here... unless its a parking space within a complex or designated space per appt/flat, anybody can park outside anybodies house as there is no right to the owner of a house that the space outside on the road is theres.
If its just a case of yourself or your neighbour being unable to park in your "regular" spaces, its a case of tough luck - first come first served.

As the OP's has said you could ring and let the gaurds know there is a suspicious car there.

mildews

TheBazman wrote: »

I believe if the number plates were to mysteriously go missing then the council have to remove the car

+1. works a charm!!!!!

Nightwish

I have a similar situation whereby a car has been parked in a space across from my house for 8 months. I have contacted the Gardai and the council in february but nothing was done. No one knows who owns it, the tax and insurance ran out in 07 and its quite a nice car.

TheDriver

I think some are missing the OPs point, as much as they have a right to park there, not for a month without being moved. Theres something amiss such as stolen so give the gardai a shout to see what the story is and your concerns, it could still be there in months to come.

Victor_M

mildews wrote: »

+1. works a charm!!!!!

+2 It would be awful if the plates fell off the car, then you would have to call the council and they would have to come out and remove it within a day or 2!

L-M

I had a car outside the house for 16 months, and i knew who owned it. Not alot we could do. There's a thread on here for it if u do a search.

timemachine

The car isnt taxed. Its parked on the road, not in a parking space. Its not obstructing anybody, just taking up spaces where other cars would usually park. I will ring the council Monday and see what can be done.

Bluetonic

TheDriver wrote: »

I think some are missing the OPs point, as much as they have a right to park there, not for a month without being moved.

Can you post up what the time limits are please.

Don't want to get caught out on this.

Thanks in advance.

arybvtcw0eolkf

TheBazman wrote: »

I believe if the number plates were to mysteriously go missing then the council have to remove the car

I'd a similar situ at few year's back, rang Dublin Corpo and was told it would be removed if there were no reg plates on it.

Joe Malone

timemachine wrote: »

The car isnt taxed. Its parked on the road, not in a parking space. Its not obstructing anybody, just taking up spaces where other cars would usually park. I will ring the council Monday and see what can be done.

If your housing estate has been taken in charge by the council then the road is a public road. All cars on a public road must be taxed. Any car which is either untaxed or has tax out of date by 3 months or more can (and should) be impounded by the Gardai. - I just hope your estate is not one of the many which are still not taken in charge by the council as the road in that case is a private one and no law is broken and no-one will take the car!

timemachine

Yeah as far as I know Fingal are responsible. Thanks for the advice folks.

staker

ive had the same prob OP ,difference being the NI reg car is sitting in an app complex car park, ie private car park since xmas.. i've been to the guards twice, they say they'll look into it. needless to say it's still there as the car is on private property. i can't move it as i'm liable if the owner returns and my luck suckssssss.. the car really stinks, i swear there's something dead in the boot. the co. council wont move it, house management keep referring it to the guards, it's maddening!
i think that number plate suggestion might work as it's on a public space. if you get any joy please post

Tropheus

timemachine wrote: »

The car isnt taxed. Its parked on the road, not in a parking space. Its not obstructing anybody, just taking up spaces where other cars would usually park. I will ring the council Monday and see what can be done.

Don't bother ringing the council if it has plates on it. I was told by a Gard not so long that if a car looks abandoned remove the plates and the coucil have to remove it. Once it has plates, the only action that will be taken is to trace the last registered owner which will take time.

If it looks old and possibily abandoned, see if the plates drop off over night:p and then call the council.

congo_90

Ok so pulling plates off may work. But if it's giving you sore eyes why not do the easy thing... 1Gallon of petrol + matches.... hmmmm I think i made my point quite clear
Council will remove it next day

Gumbo

take a picture and show us what its parked like.

WHITE_P

The council have to remove it if it poses an environmental hazzard, say if it was leaking unknown fliuds on to the road, from the engine bay. Plates need to be missing and tax out of date.

Hassel the local politicians about it also.

timemachine

The car was moved today. My next door neighbour had it removed. She said she asked everyone on the road if they owned it, about 16 houses, all replied no to owning it, so she said fu*k whoever owns it, its taken up car park spaces!!

su_dios

Not so sure if this applies anymore these days but the owner of the property used to own the road to the centre line of the road. I loved the suggestions for removing the plates... the moral police have taken a night off :rolleyes:

Fey!

How did she manage to get it removed?

timemachine

Not totally cetain, but something like a friend of a friend works in a towing company and organised it. Obviously what has happened isnt legally. She said the car would be dumped where it wouldnt cause an obstruction or be on peoples front yard.

VH

timemachine wrote: »

Not totally cetain, but something like a friend of a friend works in a towing company and organised it. Obviously what has happened isnt legally. She said the car would be dumped where it wouldnt cause an obstruction or be on peoples front yard.

So, she organised for the car to be stolen?

bazzachazza

Temporarily rehoused i would say.

It doesn't matter anyway as it wasn't the OP who did it.

If the car mattered that much to the owner they should have parked it properly on there own property and moved it on occasion to show it was still in use.

galwaytt

bazzachazza wrote: »

Temporarily rehoused i would say.

It doesn't matter anyway as it wasn't the OP who did it.

If the car mattered that much to the owner they should have parked it properly on there own property and moved it on occasion to show it was still in use.

No, it was stolen, and the person who organised it, as well as the 'tower' is liable for car theft.

Parking a car you don't like is not a crime. Moving one without the owner's permission, is. And, OP, seeing as you were so hot to get involved before, in a non-crime, time to do your bit for society and ring the Gardai and tell them who stole it.

If not, don't come whingin' around here next time someone decides they don't like YOUR car, and interfere with it.........

Have people so little to do??:mad:

Sherifu

timemachine wrote: »

Not totally cetain, but something like a friend of a friend works in a towing company and organised it. Obviously what has happened isnt legally. She said the car would be dumped where it wouldnt cause an obstruction or be on peoples front yard.

Ahahahahahaha.

VH

bazzachazza wrote: »

Temporarily rehoused i would say.

It doesn't matter anyway as it wasn't the OP who did it.

If the car mattered that much to the owner they should have parked it properly on there own property and moved it on occasion to show it was still in use.

Moving a car without the owner's permission to a location unknown by the owner is theft, no matter what way you look at it.

Only the gardaí etc have the powers to do that, and in the process they attempt to trace the owner to let them know.

It is possible the owner has gone on holidays etc.

The OP is now complicit in the crime of car theft, as he knows who committed it. A strange twist of irony is that he may be easy enough to track down from boards logs etc if the gardaí come looking for him.

The Hill Billy

su_dios wrote: »

Not so sure if this applies anymore these days but the owner of the property used to own the road to the centre line of the road.

What a load of twaddle.

* Adopts comic Keith Duffy accent *
Hiya buddies! 'Public roads' are called that because they are indeed 'public'. I.e., They are not in private ownership.

If you did own to the centre of the road in front of your house, what would stop you from sticking a sun-lounger & the kiddies paddling pool out there, & spent many's a sunny afternoon greasing yourself up with Hawaiian Tropic, reading a Harold Robbin's novel & disrupting traffic?

The Hill Billy

VH wrote: »

The OP is now complicit in the crime of car theft, as he knows who committed it. A strange twist of irony is that he may be easy enough to track down from boards logs etc if the gardaí come looking for him.

"One more thing Mr/Mrs timemachine..."

mkdon05

VH wrote: »

Moving a car without the owner's permission to a location unknown by the owner is theft, no matter what way you look at it.

Only the gardaí etc have the powers to do that, and in the process they attempt to trace the owner to let them know.

It is possible the owner has gone on holidays etc.

The OP is now complicit in the crime of car theft, as he knows who committed it. A strange twist of irony is that he may be easy enough to track down from boards logs etc if the gardaí come looking for him.

Yea i heard that the Garda Forensic technical bureau are looking into this right now:rolleyes:

WHITE_P

su_dios wrote: »

Not so sure if this applies anymore these days but the owner of the property used to own the road to the centre line of the road.

You are quite right, I used to prepare planning applications years ago and when outlining the property boundaries on the OS maps, we were required to mark out to the centre of the road, however this is not the case anymore, and I don't think anyone would have ever gotten away with trying to claim ownership of the ground outside their front wall / fence anyway.

timemachine

Well I did ring the Gardai asking them about it when it was parked there, and they didnt seem that interested, so I couldnt be bothered ringing them to tell them its gone. You say stolen, I say Gone On Holiday!!

zzzzzzzz

Victor_M wrote: »

+2 It would be awful if the plates fell off the car, then you would have to call the council and they would have to come out and remove it within a day or 2!

That's ridiculous. Anyone who'd do that is a total scumbag

su_dios

Hill Billy wrote: »

What a load of twaddle.

* Adopts comic Keith Duffy accent *
Hiya buddies! 'Public roads' are called that because they are indeed 'public'. I.e., They are not in private ownership.

If you did own to the centre of the road in front of your house, what would stop you from sticking a sun-lounger & the kiddies paddling pool out there, & spent many's a sunny afternoon greasing yourself up with Hawaiian Tropic, reading a Harold Robbin's novel & disrupting traffic?

I stated the above having used OS maps on a regular occasion. I also stated that I doubt this applies anymore. Read below also. I'm glad you had your say..

Originally Posted by su_dios View Post
Not so sure if this applies anymore these days but the owner of the property used to own the road to the centre line of the road.
You are quite right, I used to prepare planning applications years ago and when outlining the property boundaries on the OS maps, we were required to mark out to the centre of the road, however this is not the case anymore, and I don't think anyone would have ever gotten away with trying to claim ownership of the ground outside their front wall / fence anyway.

Also if most people complaining about this had read the thread properly then they would see the car had no tax. As it was parked on the road and not a driveway it should not have been there! Also I always love how people on boards tend to have such high morals when its not them in the situation. I guarantee each one of you would have done anything to get that car moved if it was outside your house taking up your space with no sign of anyone using it or living nearby and having tried to have it removed by the gardai.

Victor_M

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

That's ridiculous. Anyone who'd do that is a total scumbag

Will don't ever park you're car outside my house for 2 months at a time. I'm no scumbag, I just have a proactive approach to inconsiderate gob****es!

I should add before I hear the clippty clop of the high horses.

I always ring the guards first to see if the car has been reported stolen, I leave a note on the windshield asking politely for the owner to move the car, and as a last resort only of the tax is out of date I take the plates off. But I do it without an ounce of guilt.

zzzzzzzz

Victor_M wrote: »

Will don't ever park you're car outside my house for 2 months at a time. I'm no scumbag, I just have a proactive approach to inconsiderate gob****es!

I should add before I hear the clippty clop of the high horses.

I always ring the guards first to see if the car has been reported stolen, I leave a note on the windshield asking politely for the owner to move the car, and as a last resort only of the tax is out of date I take the plates off. But I do it without an ounce of guilt.

What gives you the right to do this? It's not parked on your property. If the car is taxed then it can be parked wherever the owner feels like it. He/she has just as much right to park there as you.

Fair enough - check with the gardai if the car is stolen and if the tax is out then report it, but to vandalise somebody's car? That is taking it too far. As far as I'm concerned, that's the same as running a key down the side of a car.

Redpunto

Ring the guards and tell them theres a stolen car dumped outside your house.

Victor_M

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

What gives you the right to do this? It's not parked on your property. If the car is taxed then it can be parked wherever the owner feels like it. He/she has just as much right to park there as you.

Fair enough - check with the gardai if the car is stolen and if the tax is out then report it, but to vandalise somebody's car? That is taking it too far. As far as I'm concerned, that's the same as running a key down the side of a car.

With the onslaught of communal parking that Ireland has seen over the last ten years, many developments have insufficient amounts of communal parking spaces. A lot of scumbags see these as a convienient way of disposing of older cars they don't have the decency to properly dispose of themselves.
I'm fairly certain that all of the cars I've had removed over the years have been abandoned by scumbags that are too cheap and don't have common decency or any form of respect for the neighbourhood, my tolerance lasts about 4 weeks after which I look after the situation myself. Most people It would seem do nothing but give out and rely on others to actually do something about it.

There have been a lot of threads on here over the years about abandoned cars and what to do.
As has been stated by many others and myself, unless the cars are reported stolen the guards can't do anything, and unless it has no plates the council can't do anything.

You may disagree, I don't really give a damn to be honest, just don't park your car outside my house for 4 weeks plus with the tax out!

corcaigh07

sounds ultra fair to me to take the plates off if its been lying there for a month plus. the OP was a saint about this, it was being a nuisence outside his property for 2 months.

Johnny Utah

Hi,

I'm looking for some suggestions to stop a person illegally parking their car outside the house. This is kind of hard to explain, and I know that nobody has a right to park outside their own house, but this particular a$$hole neighbour actually double-parks (in the middle of the road) beside my frontage. Now, afaik, it is illegal to park more than 18 inches from the kerb.

The real problem is that the said neighbour happens to be quite friendly with the local sergeant, and when I politely pointed out this parking violation to the local Gardai, they didn't seem interested at all in enforcing the parking regulations.

So, any suggestions (legal or otherwise:D) on how to stop this practice.....

timemachine

Aiden Off beat. I hope you werent refering to me as a scumbag, as that sounds like personal abuse. I am far from a scumbag. On the topic we were talking about, I went through the correct channels. Between both myself and my next door neighbour, we asked every house on our street, and the first few houses of the next street, and everybody said it wasnt their car. Gardai and council were rung, but didnt seem that bothered. Car didnt appear to be taxed, so shouldnt have been there. As another person here pointed out, if there was car parked for over a month in your drive or where you usually park you would have probably done the same.

jaggiebunnet

Sorry to dig up an old thread - but was wondering - if someone is parked half on the pavement, half on the road - is this illegal? I just spent a fortune removing my grass and putting down concrete as my car had been hit twice parked on the road (muppet drivers who don't look when reversing) and I go out yesterday morning to find a manky big white van parked on the pavement where i used to park - it didn't move all yesterday and I know it is not my neighbours either side (possibly the local scumballs down the bottom of the hill though). Now tbh the parking in my estate is crap and if he wants to park out there I don't really have a leg to stand on but with it being on the pavement it is an obstruction to my wife and the buggy not to mention a bloody eyesore when I look out my living room window. Am I legally correct in finding the owner and telling them they can't park on the pavement? Will the Gards ignore me if he doesn't move it, and finally how easy is it to remove number plates

Seth Brundle

Firstly number plates are usually held on with two small screws.
Secondly, I though you needed permission to dig up the grass - you could end up in more trouble than the van owner.
Lastly, the van was there for one day - its probably too early to go ringing the gardai!

rgunning

As far as I know it is a pentaly points offence to park on a kerb? Same as crossing a continuous white line, but I may be wrong.

Seth Brundle

No.
There are two that this is similar to but neither are the same:
Driving on a footpath (1 / 3 points)
Parking a vehicle in a dangerous position (M / 5 points)
http://www.penaltypoints.ie/the_full_list_of_offences.php