Men's Salaries

Annatar

I figure men SHOULD be paid more than Women, not because they are better, or do more work etc etc, but because we dont live as long as women!
Hence our time is more precious!

The_B_Man

you know, i think hes on to something.

I'll just head in to my completely female upper tier and ask them all for a raise based on my gender and thus my time is more precious!

Reku

That might be an arguement for a very slight increase in our pensions (since they'll probably have to pay women pensions for longer) but that'd be it, it has no impact on the working life and salaries resulting from it IMO.
If you wanted to go down the route of arguing that we should be paid more then you'd also have to accept that we should be restricted to only the shortest mortgage loans as we're more likely to die before repaying.

Insect Overlord

Controversial!
*grabs popcorn and chair, sits back to watch the backlash*

Sherifu

What if someone gets a sex change?

boneless

We eat more, drink more and spend more on non-essential items such as play stations etc. Of course we deserve more pay...:rolleyes:

Reku

boneless wrote: »

We eat more, drink more and spend more on non-essential items such as play stations etc. Of course we deserve more pay...:rolleyes:

Women have to pay luxury tax on tampons and pantyliners, should they not get extra pay to allow for that?

cooperguy

Sherifu wrote: »

What if someone gets a sex change?

They are still the same sex, they just look different. Therefore their pay doesnt change

connundrum

Sherifu wrote: »

What if someone gets a sex change?

They should get paid less, beggars can't be choosers.

luckat

Men may *live* less long than women, but they *work* to the same age.

Actually, women should be paid more than men, because they also do housework, which most men don't. So they're doing two jobs. They should be paid double what men get.

dodgyme

luckat wrote: »

Actually, women should be paid more than men, because they also do housework.

Men do the housework now because women are so bad at it and men dont go around annoying the whole house when they lift a finger.

luckat

Men do the housework now? Heavens! All the women I know must be living with aliens disguised as men, so.

The Hill Billy

boneless wrote: »

We eat more, drink more and spend more on non-essential items such as play stations etc. Of course we deserve more pay...:rolleyes:

Not to mention all the bloody drinks we have to buy the wimmins when we're trying to get into their knickers.

When lads turn 18 they should be given a government grant of, say, €20,000 to pay for said drinks & meals. The resultant success with the wimmins by way of offspring would provide the government with a larger pool of young workers who's taxes would go towards paying the pensions of future generations of oul wans.

Hill Billy for Finance Minister!

Reku

luckat wrote: »

Men do the housework now? Heavens! All the women I know must be living with aliens disguised as men, so.

QFT sadly.:(
More men need to get stuck in and help out.

Jigsaw

Hill Billy wrote: »

Not to mention all the bloody drinks we have to buy the wimmins when we're trying to get into their knickers.

When lads turn 18 they should be given a government grant of, say, €20,000 to pay for said drinks & meals. The resultant success with the wimmins by way of offspring would provide the government with a larger pool of young workers who's taxes would go towards paying the pensions of future generations of oul wans.

Hill Billy for Finance Minister!

A stroke of genius sir!

Chunks

farohar wrote: »

Women have to pay luxury tax on tampons and pantyliners, should they not get extra pay to allow for that?

*(There's a perfectly logical reason tampons and pantyliners have a luxury on them...... it's because having a period is a luxury. All women should be pregnant at all times in order to carry on the men's lineage.

If you can afford to pay the luxury tax and get your sanitary products then go ahead and enjoy your luxury. Just like if I could afford to buy a DB9 (it's a car, sweetcheeks), but I can't so I have to settle for something cheaper.

That's why you see knackers who are pregnant all the time cos they can't afford the luxury tax.)


*may not be the actual views of Chunks

Caoimhín

Hill Billy wrote: »

Not to mention all the bloody drinks we have to buy the wimmins when we're trying to get into their knickers.

When lads turn 18 they should be given a government grant of, say, €20,000 to pay for said drinks & meals. The resultant success with the wimmins by way of offspring would provide the government with a larger pool of young workers who's taxes would go towards paying the pensions of future generations of oul wans.

Hill Billy for Finance Minister!

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

po0k

luckat wrote: »

Actually, women should be paid more than men, because they also do housework, which most men don't. So they're doing two jobs. They should be paid double what men get.

Sweeping Gender Generalisations +1

seraphimvc

farohar wrote: »

Women have to pay luxury tax on tampons and pantyliners, should they not get extra pay to allow for that?

i actually think about that when i was young!we merely need water to survive,wimmin will need something more...= they should get paid more !no?:D

Blitzkrieger

Scott Adams wrote a good blog post on this ages ago. Apparantly men are usually 13% better educated (don't ask me how they measured) than women in the same job, take less time off and are more willing to travel for work. There was a good article on timesonline.co.uk recently as well :

"Yet I have several professional women friends, committed feminists, who dread hiring women for all the obvious reasons. The most pressing are their long periods of maternity leave and the extreme difficulty of replacing them temporarily in demanding service industries such as publishing and law with equally good people, who will then have to be dropped."

Annatar wrote: »

because we dont live as long as women!
Hence our time is more precious!

Now that more and more women are working, their life expectancy is dropping. So the next time someone tells you being a housewife is a job.......

"Get back into the kitchen woman and be glad of it!"

LouOB

If men will be getting government compensation

Women should get
1.Complusory councelling to deal with the males
2.Training in martial arts to rebuff any advances from unsuitable males
3.A price tag attached to women when taking them out on a date - to properly expend this 'compensation' to men
4.Instant tax credit for 'cleaning' days similiar to 'duvet' days
5.Dildo
6.Stress management to deal with the males during the relationship years - ie dealing with football, his mates, his lack of hygiene and house work, in-laws etc etc. As the males 'sure I dont care' gentic response does not wash with in-laws

Say the word girls - I can post more

Rb

OP, you're wrong, men are better than women. We debated this on AH recently and it was made quite apparent why so.

jenny-walsh

LouOB wrote: »

If men will be getting government compensation

Women should get
1.Complusory councelling to deal with the males
2.Training in martial arts to rebuff any advances from unsuitable males
3.A price tag attached to women when taking them out on a date - to properly expend this 'compensation' to men
4.Instant tax credit for 'cleaning' days similiar to 'duvet' days
5.Dildo
6.Stress management to deal with the males during the relationship years - ie dealing with football, his mates, his lack of hygiene and house work, in-laws etc etc. As the males 'sure I dont care' gentic response does not wash with in-laws

Say the word girls - I can post more

I see where you're going with this...and I think I like it!

Also, what about women who, on top of all the housework, take car of teh kids too?

Rb

jenny-walsh wrote: »

I see where you're going with this...and I think I like it!

Also, what about women who, on top of all the housework, take car of teh kids too?

That's life. Female animals take care of their offspring and don't ask for compensation, and if a woman is looking for compensation for taking care of the kids, she probably shouldn't be having them in the first place.

farohar

farohar wrote: »

That might be an arguement for a very slight increase in our pensions (since they'll probably have to pay women pensions for longer) but that'd be it, it has no impact on the working life and salaries resulting from it IMO.

Pensions are actually done like that. Men receive more in their pension since they are meant to live shorter lives than women. At least with the company my company does it with.

CJay

Chunks wrote: »

*(There's a perfectly logical reason tampons and pantyliners have a luxury on them...... it's because having a period is a luxury. All women should be pregnant at all times in order to carry on the men's lineage.

rb_ie wrote: »

That's life. Female animals take care of their offspring and don't ask for compensation, and if a woman is looking for compensation for taking care of the kids, she probably shouldn't be having them in the first place.

:rolleyes:

St Bill

Annatar wrote: »

Hence our time is more precious!

Mens' time is more precious YET they watch football. There's something not quite right here....:p

connundrum

CJay wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Excellent. Brilliant 7th post. I can see a career in journalism opening up for you as I type. Carry on.

Blitzkrieger

St Bill wrote: »

YET they watch football.

What's more important that watching the match? If I ever get married (not looking likely ) it'll be outside the football season......

luckat

rb_ie wrote: »

That's life. Female animals take care of their offspring and don't ask for compensation, and if a woman is looking for compensation for taking care of the kids, she probably shouldn't be having them in the first place.

Not so. I happen to be fluent in several animal languages - giraffe, gerbil, griffon, gibbon, etc - and I have often heard these ladies complain at length about the minimal compensation available.

Please do your research before you post. May I recommend the TCD Little Known Animal Dialects module - inexpensive and an interesting course for night study.

WindSock

I had a theory that women should get paid more up until they have a baby, so they can happily quit work and look after the child/ren and then the daddy gets a pay rise.

silvine

What about the women who can't have babies or the Daddies who don't want one?

silvine

silvine wrote: »

What about the women who can't have babies or the Daddies who don't want one?

To be means tested of course
Hmm nah that would not work
We should just all win teh lotto

Lotto FTW!

Mushroom..

Because men are so absolutely useless and there only necessity in this world, also this day and age, when it comes down to the basics is to provide sperm to the more productive members of society(ie Females) who actually have to do hard labour(pardon the pun) and significant labour henceforth,these reluctant creatures who lack enthusiasm to perform in a symbiotic manner should mayb all be comfortably be housed in a stable/dormitory like enclosure(much like a prison or military base)with a large tv to keep these less mentally active, only able to think/do 1 thing at once, creatures comfortable, with ocassional day release when their DNA matches requirements and they have to do a bit of what they will probably get more out of than us(satisfaction wise)whilst we will continue to bear young and keep the world afloat in a peaceful manner were good communication is taken for granted and violence has no place, !!

PS aren't we all being a little childish at this stage in this metro-sexual society, i really dont fully comprehend why people take such pleasure berating the opposite sex, and doubting their worth when we all have a significant place in this world and none of us should really consider any1's work whether it be at home, outside the home, or both!! Its just being symbiotic.

But again i have to say it is the menfolk who do bring the less desirable aspects into the world.

Did you know that women use the whole of their brain, left and right, satisfying questions like why are women such able multi-taskers? whilst men only use one side in particular, predominantly,(nor sure which side!!) which probably explains why a lot of you can see past ur own nose!!

Get over it!!

Rb

Mushroom.. wrote: »

Because men are so absolutely useless and there only necessity in this world, also this day and age, when it comes down to the basics is to provide sperm to the more productive members of society(ie Females) who actually have to do hard labour(pardon the pun) and significant labour henceforth,these reluctant creatures who lack enthusiasm to perform in a symbiotic manner should mayb all be comfortably be housed in a stable/dormitory like enclosure(much like a prison or military base)with a large tv to keep these less mentally active, only able to think/do 1 thing at once, creatures comfortable, with ocassional day release when their DNA matches requirements and they have to do a bit of what they will probably get more out of than us(satisfaction wise)whilst we will continue to bear young and keep the world afloat in a peaceful manner were good communication is taken for granted and violence has no place, !!

PS aren't we all being a little childish at this stage in this metro-sexual society, i really dont fully comprehend why people take such pleasure berating the opposite sex, and doubting their worth when we all have a significant place in this world and none of us should really consider any1's work whether it be at home, outside the home, or both!! Its just being symbiotic.

But again i have to say it is the menfolk who do bring the less desirable aspects into the world.

Did you know that women use the whole of their brain, left and right, satisfying questions like why are women such able multi-taskers? whilst men only use one side in particular, predominantly,(nor sure which side!!) which probably explains why a lot of you can see past ur own nose!!

Get over it!!

Lol, a woman ran by women, imagine that.

Thankfully it'll never happen.

On the flipside, why don't we lock women up in an enclosure and only remove them when we need them to breed? I mean, that is what you're here for and what your bodies were designed for. Or maybe make massive buildings and have you all lined up like chickens, pumping out babies whilst we go play golf?

moody cow!

you forgot about pay, i think that we'll just step quietly on and get what we need eventually! All men in this place want the cash for is to drink it anyhow!! thats why you need more, yez cannae function without it, afraid yez id get boring wi oot it!!

Mushroom..

Because who would look after sprogs?!!! and bring them up to be socially adapted and educated members of society?!! not the males of the species!!! too much like hard work when you want to play golf!!:rolleyes:
And your idea just wouldnt work because your little world would not be maintained the way you would like it!!

Much better to be symbiotic huh?more to your advantage:p

I think you guys have a little kore evolution to do before you catch up with us, so be a good boy and go and play golf quietly..........:pac:

Blitzkrieger

Mushroom.. wrote: »

Did you know that women use the whole of their brain, left and right, satisfying questions like why are women such able multi-taskers? whilst men only use one side in particular

What? For the sake of comedy let's assume that gibberish is true.

Our brains are better developed for things like spatial awareness and hand-eye coordination. This makes us capable of all sorts of wonderful things like hitting targets, parking cars, etc. We also tend to have better ability with numbers. This is important when trying to make staistical predictions for the fantasy football.

We just don't see the point of using the rest of our brains. Why would we think about 'feelings' when we only need two? We're either hungry or horny and we're easily satisfied because of it. If it's not hard, make me a freaking sandwich

Mushroom..

Exactly!! a barn it is!! All you need is food and ocassional sexual pleasure!! have a **** in the meantime!!:D(i'm not forgetting the big screen after you're bedded down in straw!!

As to sandwich, what will you give me in return that i want?!! thats the way it is!!( make it worthwhile for me now!! i'll consider your suggestion and get back to you!!)

Feelings never came into it did they?!!:p thought it was as factual as 'after hours need to be!!:p

Mushroom..

I agree about the spatial awareness etc but do remember that is only a sweeping gereralisation!! I have one female cousin who is a highly successful engineer and just as well paid and another who is in the same boat as a micro-biologist!! (talking money and male generalised skills here!)

faceman

Lads, there is no need to get worried about silly things like salaries and working conditions.

Despite wimmenz ramblings and self righteousness, as their favourite tv show of all time showed us, despite their desire for independent, success and, er, random rides, at the end of the day, every woman needs a man to be truly happy. (as per the last episode)

For the record, Dudess is my favourite woman in the world, please dont ban me!!

Mushroom..

I agree Faceman!! but men also need a woman to be truly happy, but its all down to getting the right suitor!! lots to be said for working together and making proper use of individual capabilitiesn maybe celebrating them rather than slagging them!!:D

ps i dont actually watch telly!! Footie always on!! but ya know what?Idont mind cos i prefer to read while he does that.. or to be active in some way...

Despite wimmenz ramblings and self righteousness,

Dunno about that phrase:- could apply to either sex rather than just 'wimmins'!!

Einstein

farohar wrote: »

Women have to pay luxury tax on tampons and pantyliners, should they not get extra pay to allow for that?

they dont actually.
they do on contraceptives though

faceman

Mushroom.. wrote: »

I agree Faceman!! but men also need a woman to be truly happy, but its all down to getting the right suitor!! lots to be said for working together and making proper use of individual capabilitiesn maybe celebrating them rather than slagging them!!:D

I wouold agree about us men needing a woman to be happy but then them gayz came along and through a spanner in the works!

I just dont get lesbians, love them, but dont get them!

WindSock

silvine wrote: »

What about the women who can't have babies or the Daddies who don't want one?

What about them? They won't have to worry about saving up enough money to get a large enough house and a secure future for their children.

Mushroom..

each to there own!!, I think gays are people of different gender sex in the wrong body gender but thats a bit simple...too many holes in my suggestion (no pun really intended!), but i think they have always been around!! Right back to times of greek gods!! Personally find idea of lesbianism a bit disgusting as i tell my lesbian/bi mates who might just be confused or disappointed!! Man+Woman= Productive partnership!!:)

Annatar

Ahhhh......
*throws in a couple of knives....
sits back and watches the carnage.


When who why was the thread moved to Work N Jobs from After Hours??



The whole men are only needed for their sperm... pah!
What about ....spiders?!?!??! huh huh huh???


as in who gets rid oh them when they are miles away in a different part of the house and nowhere near creeping over you as you sleep.... praps laying eggs in ears etc....
Just waiting to hatch like some Alien bursting from a hapless space colonists chest.....




Watch too much tv? yeah.....

Mushroom..

lol!! My op has nightmares about spiders! according to dream analysis thats something to do with maternal influence!:D

Blitzkrieger

Mushroom.. wrote: »

Exactly!! a barn it is!!

Through in a free bar and you've got a deal.......

AARRRGH

I don't mean to interrupt the fun but...

I've worked in jobs where I looked after payroll.

In all of those jobs the men got paid more than the women, even if the women were (slightly) more senior.

I think the reason for this was because the men were more willing to fight for a higher salary, so basically aggression wins the day.

Annatar

Mushroom.. wrote: »

lol!! My op has nightmares about spiders! according to dream analysis thats something to do with maternal influence!:D

Nightmares...nahh...
Just figured spiders are one of those things women just love!!