Would you give to charity?

eclectictrek

I am really annoyed about this one:mad:

Recently myself and 20 of my college friends have been collecting for two different charities.. We were going around campus and got permision to collect locally also.

What really got up our noses were the people(in their brand new cars mostly)who would look straight ahead and ignore you, heads up..anything to avoid eye contact just so they could avoid giving the few quid..The lecturers were as bad on campus when we asked for change!!! I know now not everyone has money or change on them but i nice or friendly ah sorry wouldn't go astray instead of the replies we got!!

Would you give the bitta spare change to charity or would you give the same response as we got??

aidan_walsh

I walk past chuggers because I prefer to give in my own time without being hassled.

Schism

It depends what the charity is collecting for.

Ruu_Old

I give a number of select charities once a year but get called several times a year on caught on the street. Normally would just say sorry or only donate once a year, sorry but will keep you in mind for next year (on the phone). Depends on the charity too.

Mr. Presentable

I prefer charity to be because I want to give, not because I am guilted into it. I give what I can when I can and object to canvassers - especially those door to door ones that look for bank details.

The Real B-man

Yes but only if they do something for you like bag packing i hate the people who stop you in the street i nearly decked one he came so close to my face!!!:eek:

echosound

the reason you got ignored is that people are sick to the back teeth of charity collectors rattling buckets or waving clipboards at them and rather than lose the rag and explode at you, prefer to grit the teeth and maintain a stony silence.
I will only give to certain charities, and that's when I want to, not when I'm hassled to.

MooseJam

I'm very charitable, I've been known to give money to random strangers

Cullilingus

Theres no point giving to a charity if you have no idea how the money is going to be spent. Giving money to some random person on the street is no garuntee that it will go anywhere useful, as you know absolutely nothing about the charity. By doing so you're basically throwing money blindly at problem, hoping it will go away.

monkeyfudge

Schism wrote: »

It depends what the charity is collecting for.

"Free the Paedos!"

I gladly give to charities which have people collecting who are not getting paid (I make a point to ask).

Change... spare change...

Kernel

What charity were you collecting for OP?

admiralofthefleet

i give the little bits that are left on 3v's to random charities but in general i dont as i believe most of the monies collected goes on administration

Tigger

i hate that crap

did you know that charity organisations are the most competitive industry for advertising and marketing etc

Nerin

there was a guy collecting once, trying his best (maybe seemed a little pushy to some people) and when he came up to me i told him, im a student, right now ive no money.
he laughed and said he was the same at the moment and not to worry.

fair enough like.
what annoys me is people assuming that you have money for them. Will i get a freaking t-shirt listing the charitable organisations i gave to already??!
just because im wearing an expensive looking coat doesnt mean i can afford to give you money, just because i gathered up all my pennys to buy a packet of ciggie and when i walk out of the shop ye feel entitled to give me a dirty look because i didnt give ye a few euro.

its like everything in life,there are good and bad, but annoying charity people that try and make you feel guilty grind my gears.

[end rant]

Sherifu

If I have to I will, those guys at the traffic lights shaking the buckets are the worst.

Abi

aidan_walsh wrote: »

I walk past chuggers because I prefer to give in my own time without being hassled.

+1


I cant stand pushy people getting in my face / personal space when Im out. Im sure that sounds horrible, but I've set up monthy direct debits from my bank account to a couple of charities. Ive never mentioned it to anyone before, but I see it as a way of paying my dues. I think its good for you to know that you do something, rather than than be ignorant.

But I cant save the world either. I give what I can, end of. So I cant be expected to dig deep everytime someone shoves a bucket of change in my face.

Kooli

It may seem like a case of 'ah come on, just give us a bit of change' to you as the one person holding the bucket, but for the rest of us going past, don't forget that it's you with the bucket, then it's the next person with the bucket, then it's the tw*t with the clipboard, then his mate with the clipboard, then the homeless guy with the paper cup, next person with the bucket, then the ladies with the roses, then the bloke with the Big Issue, all in the walk from college to Stephens Green. Now I know they are not all charities, but that's a lot of 'no sorry, I have no change', and perhaps people think it's easier to just walk by. It's nothing personal.

I won't turn this into a rant about chuggers cos that not how this started.

The worst thing is when I hear chuggers and other charity collectors getting all judgmental, as the previous poster noted. Don't dare think you know by how I'm dressed or what shopping bags I'm carrying how much money I have to spare or what I choose to do with it!

connundrum

I punch charity collectors. Right in the baby maker.

I used to give to random charities once or twice a week, but stopped when I got hassled on a daily basis by chuggers and beggars. The charity market has ruined itself.

AckwelFoley

I will only generally give to Meals on wheels and Childrens charities.

I will never give to GOAL as long as John O Shea is in charge.

His comments regarding the New Orleans hurricane victims disgusted me.

Wertz

The Real B-man wrote: »

Yes but only if they do something for you like bag packing i hate the people who stop you in the street i nearly decked one he came so close to my face!!!:eek:

lol I pay the bag packers not to pack. I see it as protection money for the food I just bought...

I'm not a big charity giver, if I have change and I'm in a good mood I'll put some in a bucket as I walk by, but this BS of coming round the door and telling me what I can do for a euro a week is annoying, especially when you know the caller is getting a cut.

Hellm0

I'm a social Darwinist, I don't believe in charities and never will. Let the peasants eat cake.

Holsten

I'd give you nothing, sorry.

dsmythy

Won't give money to anyone getting in my face. I'll make a donation whenever i have the money and the time. 90% of my charitable money goes to children's charities. I'll never give to international ones. I'd rather my money help someone closer to home.

Ideo

I was thinking about this today actually. And kinda figured that with the amount of new charities springing up people can't be expected to give to each and every charity that asks for a euro. So, why give to your charity? What makes you different from the rest?

I say sorry but I give to a few chosen charities already. I think that charities have ruined it for themselves with the constant banging on doors and shoving buckets in faces. I'm getting very fed up with it!!

Abi

dsmythy wrote: »

Won't give money to anyone getting in my face. I'll make a donation whenever i have the money and the time. 90% of my charitable money goes to children's charities. I'll never give to international ones. I'd rather my money help someone closer to home.

Im the same, Ive one for children with disabilities that need funding to transport the little ones, days out etc. Every child is entitled to the same opportunities imo. Also, I give to a breast cancer charity. Cancer of any kind scares the daylights out of me, but Im all for those helping people understand the importance of early detection and support during recovery.

I often dont look at people shaking buckets at me, but now I know what they think of me. I dont mean any ill-will towards the OP, but its not as cut-and-dry as assuming everyone that passes them are tight.

ojewriej

Like most of people here, I'm tired of being guiltied into giving money.

I used to have direct debit for Concern, but cancelled it when I found out what their administrative costs are. I feel like I'm being taken for a ride when the fella collecting money earns more than I do. I also don't buy the "charity" parachute jumps and the likes. Companies organising them make sure they make profit before giving anything to charities.

So i decided to give my time rather than money, and i'm doing things like christmas gift wrapping in St Stephens green SC, marshalling Simon Fun Run cleaning up the garden in the school for handicapped kids, this kind of stuff.

I love doing it too, it feels great.

taidghbaby

MooseJam wrote: »

I'm very charitable, I've been known to give money to random strangers

really??? where do you be workin/walkin/look like etc??????:D:D

wandatowell

I never give to people collecting money for charities, its the homeless guys in the street with the shabby looking dogs that i give to. Jesus it heart breaking to see em. But i do give to the RNLI, they do great work

Flukey

Hellm0 wrote: »

I don't believe in charities and never will.

Maybe you don't, but I can guarantee you that they do exist.

Cullilingus wrote:

Theres no point giving to a charity if you have no idea how the money is going to be spent. Giving money to some random person on the street is no garuntee that it will go anywhere useful, as you know absolutely nothing about the charity. By doing so you're basically throwing money blindly at problem, hoping it will go away.

Well there is one solution to that. Get involved and go and see where the money is spent and ensure it is spent.

Rb

F*ck chuggers.

That is all.

And I didn't mean f*ck as in "to have sex with".

eclectictrek

Kernel wrote: »

What charity were you collecting for OP?

We were collecting for Console suicide prevention and Cancer clinical research trust..Two charities which nearly everyone can relate to.

princess-sprkle

I do give to charity, quite regularly. However, i object to chuggers, they're getting paid ffs! plus i prefer to do it on my own time not being guilted into it

hopalong85

princess-sprkle wrote: »

I do give to charity, quite regularly. However, i object to chuggers, they're getting paid ffs! plus i prefer to do it on my own time not being guilted into it

Why is it such a bad thing that these people get paid? Do you think that if they weren't they could approach their landlord and say 'hey I'm a charity worker free rent please?!', or maybe hit Tesco for some free shopping? At the end of the day they raise a lot of money for charity and it doesn't seem like the easiest job ever so they're entitled to be paid as far as I'm concerened.

Kooli

Isn't Console more about suicide bereavement than suicide prevention?

Not being picky, I'm sure if you were collecting for them you did your research....

CJay

I give monthly to 4 charities via direct debit....the lack of effort on my part makes me feel slightly guilty.

princess-sprkle

hopalong85 wrote: »

Why is it such a bad thing that these people get paid? Do you think that if they weren't they could approach their landlord and say 'hey I'm a charity worker free rent please?!', or maybe hit Tesco for some free shopping? At the end of the day they raise a lot of money for charity and it doesn't seem like the easiest job ever so they're entitled to be paid as far as I'm concerened.

an awful lot of people dedicate their time for free for charity collections. Those people also raise a lot of money for charity.

most people give to charity on their own terms, not being guilted into it by chuggers.

buckfast4me

Jaysus its expensive enough to live in this country without giving to charity. Find out how much the CEO of concern made last year and it might change your mind about donating.

MrJones

I dont think you can just say its expensive enough without having to give to charity...think what you have such as car, good job, food in front of you when you want, clean water!, warm house!,i think its only when you go to the poorer countries n see it for yourself that you realise you have nothing to complain about living in western society...

MrJones

hopalong85 wrote: »

Why is it such a bad thing that these people get paid? Do you think that if they weren't they could approach their landlord and say 'hey I'm a charity worker free rent please?!', or maybe hit Tesco for some free shopping? At the end of the day they raise a lot of money for charity and it doesn't seem like the easiest job ever so they're entitled to be paid as far as I'm concerened.

maybe the point is that if you work as a charity collector (which is fair enough everyone has to earn a living) then you cant go around saying you're actually making a difference coz only a fraction of the money you collect only go to charity anyways

buckfast4me

MrJones wrote: »

I dont think you can just say its expensive enough without having to give to charity...think what you have such as car, good job, food in front of you when you want, clean water!, warm house!,i think its only when you go to the poorer countries n see it for yourself that you realise you have nothing to complain about living in western society...

I think you have me confused with someone else.

ninty9er

As I type I'm preparing to write to my local superintendent to object to permits being given to chuggers. I have to go uptown during working hours, for work purposes about 12-15 time a week with these fu<king wankbags waving and gesticulating at me like I'm at a fucking circus. If I understand correctly, you must approach them, otherwise they are soliciting. Hopefully a reply from Henry Street Garda Station will confirm that so I can shove it those fucking backpacking pain in the holes' faces!


I give freely of my time as a member of the Order of Malta at race meeting, showjumping etcetera.....if we weren't there there'd be no event. I strongly object to these people being paid.
That is all

hopalong85

princess-sprkle wrote: »

an awful lot of people dedicate their time for free for charity collections. Those people also raise a lot of money for charity.

most people give to charity on their own terms, not being guilted into it by chuggers.

"chuggers" dedicate about 40 hours a week or more to charity collections. Direct debit contributions are the most effective method of raising funds for a charity. That's why pretty much every major charity has these people on the street day in and day out. Obviously the method works otherwise charities wouldn't be employing it. At the end of the day they are just doing their job, it's hardly that much of an inconvenience to you for someone to say 'hi, have you got a minute?'. If it is then that says a lot more about you than the person fundraising tbh.

hopalong85

MrJones wrote: »

maybe the point is that if you work as a charity collector (which is fair enough everyone has to earn a living) then you cant go around saying you're actually making a difference coz only a fraction of the money you collect only go to charity anyways

Have you got any sources to back up that statement? Or is it just an opinion?:)

phantom_lord

eclectictrek wrote: »

I am really annoyed about this one:mad:

Recently myself and 20 of my college friends have been collecting for two different charities.. We were going around campus and got permision to collect locally also.

What really got up our noses were the people(in their brand new cars mostly)who would look straight ahead and ignore you, heads up..anything to avoid eye contact just so they could avoid giving the few quid..The lecturers were as bad on campus when we asked for change!!! I know now not everyone has money or change on them but i nice or friendly ah sorry wouldn't go astray instead of the replies we got!!

Would you give the bitta spare change to charity or would you give the same response as we got??

eh, I'm annoyed that everyday I'm hassled by people trying to beg off me. Can I not walk down a street in peace? Going through town there was a different school every day collecting for something or other, **** them, I don't want to put up with that ****, probably at most 20% of the amount that i donate will go to the cause anyway. If you're so passionate about it why don't u go help them, or give your own cash, instead of hassling hard working individuals with bills to pay. bloody students.

ART6

The problem I have is what constitutes a charity? At our local Tesco the checkouts are occupied on an almost daily basis by kids and adults with white plastic buckets, insisting on intercepting my shopping as it comes off the belt and stuffing it at random into my bags. Most of them are "charities" I have never heard of -- Ballykillbilly Football Boots for Girls Action Group etc etc -- and when they have rammed in my shopping with the squashables on the bottom I am expected to put my change into their bin. If I do that every time they are there, then I will be adding a significant amount to my shopping bill, and I don't have unlimited funds.

I will and do give to charities (a) when it suits me and (b) when they are ones I respect -- Meals on Wheels, RNLI etc. That's all.

Sam Vimes

Kooli wrote: »

It may seem like a case of 'ah come on, just give us a bit of change' to you as the one person holding the bucket, but for the rest of us going past, don't forget that it's you with the bucket, then it's the next person with the bucket, then it's the tw*t with the clipboard, then his mate with the clipboard, then the homeless guy with the paper cup, next person with the bucket, then the ladies with the roses, then the bloke with the Big Issue, all in the walk from college to Stephens Green. Now I know they are not all charities, but that's a lot of 'no sorry, I have no change', and perhaps people think it's easier to just walk by. It's nothing personal.

i wonder do chuggers get hassled by other chuggers while they're walking to their hassling point in the morning

jd83

this really bugs me, you cant walk up grafton street or henry street without been pestered and i find if you actually make eye contact and say no thanks that they persist in asking you saying ah sure it will only take a minute. So the only way to get by them is be rude and just ignore them. I give to charity but to one i support and have heard of before, some of these collectors i see ive never heard off before. Im not stinchy or anything ( really im not) but it just bugs me.

Odysseus

I'm finding this an interesting thread as I run alot throughout the year but will only do one charity event a year. In the past few years I have tended to avoid Irish charities because of the above comments.

However, this year for personal reasons I have chosen an Irish one again and just hope that the money raised is used correctly, but I think admin cost are kept at a minimun. I have even added it a link to my sig.

However, I can fairly say it will cost me about 5,000e to complete in the event and that comes from my pocket, I'm not into these people looking for free holidays, because "its to help a charity". I know one girl who raise 5,000e and handed it to the charity upon her arrival, paid her own costs that what I see as charity work.

I don't give to guys on the streets and won't even acknowledge those looking for my bank details. However, as I do my work through sponsorship if someone comes to me with a sponsorship card I will always sign it.

jd83

I wouldnt have a problem with sponsership, once your not out waving a clipboard in my face looking for my credit card number its fine. But a lot of these so called charities ive never heard of and would actually wonder what percentage of the money actually goes to the cause. Some of them the collectors are payed wages and not actually there to support the cause there collecting for. Ive give online to charity when i choose to and have the money to but out of principle i will never give a penny to anyone who annoys me on the street or calls to my house.

Pythia

People can't be bound to give to every charity that asks.
I give to charities I am interested in supporting, like illness charities and animal charities.