Average income

iMax

Folks just wondering what the average income is out there. I'm in a position where I'll be changing jobs (actually changing fields - going from IT to Sales) and I'll be going from a ballpark of 40k with no benefits to ballpark 30k with benefits.

I'm 40, married, family, educated up to secondlevel & no debt apart from mortgage.

What's your scenario ?

Age Status Education Ballpark income

Plug

Im on less than <10k, less than the dole in fact! Though on the brightside im an apprentise so it'll be worth it at the end.

biko

You can see average salaries here

Rb

Is it 30k basic or 30k with commission?

Plug

biko wrote: »

You can see average salaries here

Nice one, cheers for that.

iMax

iMax wrote: »

Age Status Education Ballpark income

Is that not a smart way of saying a/s/l

DetectivFoxtrot

jesus iMax, 10K drop is pretty big even with benefits. Are you sure you're doing the right thing??

28/middle management in financial institution/Diploma in Management/48K

Irishcrx

21, work in management, 2'nd level education 30k a year.

iMax

Thanks for that biko

rb_ie wrote: »

Is it 30k basic or 30k with commission?

30k with commission (although you're not earning commission until you start selling obviously). I've just found out the basic is going up to 33k in July irrespective of service.

DetectivFoxtrot wrote:

10K drop is pretty big even with benefits. Are you sure you're doing the right thing??

Not at all foxtrot, however, I don't qualify for social welfare as I was self employed for a number of years & right now I've absolutely no income (starting week five of unemployment with a grand total of four interviews & out of that, two have already told me no). That;'s why I'm thinking of bailing on IT. I was looking at jobs on line today & one place was looking for a degree with 4-5 years experience & offering a basic of €35k. The market seems to be absolutely screwed right now & although I've got 12+ years hands on, I've no qualifications.

luckat

Whoah, IT rates have certainly plunged since the Tiggy!

DetectivFoxtrot

iMax wrote: »

Thanks for that biko



30k with commission (although you're not earning commission until you start selling obviously). I've just found out the basic is going up to 33k in July irrespective of service.



Not at all foxtrot, however, I don't qualify for social welfare as I was self employed for a number of years & right now I've absolutely no income (starting week five of unemployment with a grand total of four interviews & out of that, two have already told me no). That;'s why I'm thinking of bailing on IT. I was looking at jobs on line today & one place was looking for a degree with 4-5 years experience & offering a basic of €35k. The market seems to be absolutely screwed right now & although I've got 12+ years hands on, I've no qualifications.

that's pants!:(
I'd take experience over qualifications any day! I recruit poeple a lot and I always prefer to see work experience on a cv than qualifications! That said I don't work in a specialised area so it depends on the type of job i 'spose....

iMax

luckat wrote: »

Whoah, IT rates have certainly plunged since the Tiggy!

Tell me about it. Back in June of 2005 I was on €47k.

Keep me in mind then DetectivFoxtrot

DetectivFoxtrot

iMax wrote: »

Tell me about it. Back in June of 2005 I was on €47k.

Keep me in mind then DetectivFoxtrot

iMax I think you would be over qualified to work in my game tbh!
I'd hold out if I was you, although I know time is money etc..

Gone are the days when employers were screaming out for hard working folk, boy are times a changing!;)

old boy

disability pension 197 per week plus benefits, oh the joys of retirement

A Dub in Glasgo

People should be looking at the median salary level not average

connundrum

DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »

Gone are the days when employers where screaming out for hard working folk, boy are times a changing!;)

I would have thought that the times were changing in favour of hard working folk? I feckin hated the last few years, where far too many people freeloaded their way to their pay cheque.

It seems strange to go from steady job to sales at 40, but each to their own. I'm glad I got out of it early, and I won't say I'd a bad experience, as it gave me a load of experience.

If you were starting on €30k, I'd look into the actual potential earnings i.e. how much product are you likely to sell in your first 3, 6, 12 months, and how much will that equate to in commission. Some sales positions will play nice with a view to keeping their staff for longer than the 1 - 3 year average. Some will hire staff knowing that the turnover will be high, therefore the commission can be low.

Best o luck though!

When I was in sales, I was 21, with a 3rd level degree, on €33k basic, with average commission of €700 per month.

DetectivFoxtrot

connundrum wrote: »

I would have thought that the times were changing in favour of hard working folk? I feckin hated the last few years, where far too many people freeloaded their way to their pay cheque.

yeh, good point, but in the context of the thread it sounds like the OP has a lot to offer (skills & experience) but 30K is his best offer so far?

445279.ie

35, middle management, leaving cert, 47k

ninty9er

21, Student (Currently Trainee Accountant), €14k, Finished College €16k for 3 years, Qualified €24k incremental with annual review

RoyalMarine

<--- broke.

22,000 doing tech support. but costs me almost 100 a week in petrol.

college soon so not too bad.
studying cybercime and digital forensics.
aint got a clue what i can earn doing something related to that as im going for my master's in america when im done.

Thirdfox

Law student so negative earnings right now.

Meath999

Have been working for the past 8 years on 15K a year without any benefits, with a rotating roster over the seven day - week, I am 36, have family and rent a house. Imagine that .......... but the government want to make sure that I " do my time" like that for another 10 years. Most of the immigrants are kept in such a limbo and exploited by the employers like this, if they blow the whislte they face the prospect of having to lose the job and thence leave the country. The government does not allow us to change the job as it requires getting new work permit with the new job and they say no to it all the time. Imagine having to go through all of that, and at the end of the day some people call you scavengers ????

funk-you

25/Engineer/some college/some technical courses/hands on experience/55500

-Funk

Sangre

22 (1st year apprentice) degree/masters/professional exams 38k.

haven't started yet though.

Xavi6

23/Honours degree in Journalism and Media/Construction Industry Journalist/$40k

Pretty average wage, though I only started this job in January and apparently the raises are pretty sweet. Could be getting one in the next month or two.

Dudess

Average wage? Not for a journalist in this country... I also worked in the sector for a while and have an honours MA in journalism (fat fukking lot of good it did me).

Christ this thread is depressing...

Sangre

thats aussie dollars (i.e €23000). no doubt its worth more in real terms over there though.

Xavi6

Tis aussie dollars alright. And yeah the cost of living over here is cheaper than at home so it's good for me. I live comfortably and still save a third of my wages every week.

nkay1985

22/ Manufacturing Software Support / Hons Degree in Electronic Engineering / 38k a year with about 2k in bonuses, and VHI paid for.

Sherifu

Millions of lei ~_~

TerrorFirmer

13k. But I only work weekends/2 evenings. Student.

Celtic67

32/Financial Services/€73K

Keano

Working in Finance (not my thing but took the position) €32K

KTRIC

29 / IT Services / €55.5k

Wossack

25 / forum whore + internet addict / 42k

Zascar

If you have a background in IT and want to move to Sales, there are pelnty of well paying jobs out there. If you build up 3-5 years of sales experience you should be aiming for 100k inc commission. 30k Basic and 30k commission sounds pretty good for your first sales job, who is it with? Any job like this you are expected to hit your target, which means you are expected to earn 60k over the year. Even if you do not do well you should still pull 45-50l

I work for a major software sales company, send me your cv I'll pass it on if you want....

Marksie

senior management, CS, 43, 65K + pension

Silent Partner

24/Motor Sales/Leaving Cert./€30k - €35k

Although my salary can vary all over the place due to commission and at the moment, times are a bit tough!

Actually, I am looking to get out of sales but I haven't a clue where to go. I've no qualifications. I've been working in sales for nearly 6 years. The first few were in retail sales and now in motor sales. Any advice?

Tigger

motor sales is crap money always has been
if you aren't happy with your job you should spent 8 hours a week trying to get a job that you would be happy with. thats training or job hunting

Ginny

28/Sciences, research/postgrad/€40k-€46k.

scary

36/Process Technician/€42 basic + 33% shift allowance/certificate

Anti

the ammount of bull**** in this thread is amazing lol.

25/Brain surgeonz/ bachelors + Md + Dr/ 7.8million per week....

Stop the bull****, and prove it with you wageslip.

ninty9er

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

13k. But I only work weekends/2 evenings. Student.

Are you working in Debenhams on a Roches contract:D:D

mikemac

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

People should be looking at the median salary level not average

Median?I work in a bank and don't know what this means

Banking, 26, €52k

snorlax

just turned 23..occupational therapist 39k, due to go up in August.

Sangre

Anti wrote: »

the ammount of bull**** in this thread is amazing lol.

25/Brain surgeonz/ bachelors + Md + Dr/ 7.8million per week....

Stop the bull****, and prove it with you wageslip.

spot billy-no-money.

connundrum

Anti wrote: »

Stop the bull****, and prove it with you wageslip.

My wageslip ist too large to fit onto teh internets.

TerrorFirmer

ninty9er wrote: »

Are you working in Debenhams on a Roches contract:D:D

What...?

A Dub in Glasgo

micmclo wrote: »

Median?I work in a bank and don't know what this means

Banking, 26, €52k

For something like salaries/wages, the distribution is not symmetrical therefore the average will give a skewed result. The median gives a value that you will be able to say you are in the bottom 50(ish)% or the top 50(ish)%.

http://www.conceptstew.co.uk/PAGES/mean_or_median.html

Dudess

Anti wrote: »

the ammount of bull**** in this thread is amazing lol.

25/Brain surgeonz/ bachelors + Md + Dr/ 7.8million per week....

Stop the bull****, and prove it with you wageslip.

LOL so true...

gurramok

21.58% of the entire workforce earn OVER 35.4k, and the rest 78.42% earn UNDER 35.4k, thats a fact from the govt:) http://www.budget.gov.ie/2008/downloads/DistributionOfIncome.pdf

So most boardies here are allegedly in the 'top elite' of earners