How to actually get good at this game online?

estebancambias

Ok I suck, and not just suck in an average sort of way, I'm God awful. Some guy shoots, I get disorientated and start shooting at anything. I am constantly getting knifed, and even though I have had a few lucky games where I might kill a few people, I generally spend my time wimpering in some dark corner readying myself for a sneak attack.

The problem is the damn guns.....When the hell can I get hold of those red dot guns?

So bascially I need some advice to make me the ultimate COD4 killing machine.

Signed
A very angry call of duty online person.

KamiKazi

you have to level up to get the reddot sights.

Adriatic

Well for a start keep moving and don't be afraid of the enemy. Always try and reload before rounding a corner so you wont be left waiting when you meet an oncoming enemy. Avoid going near cars, they explode out of now where. Try and keep off the middle of the street, snipers will pop your head off and finally practice, practice,practice.

Voodu Child

When someone kills you, watch how they did it and how they move, use cover... etc. Even better, if you have time, sit out a game and spectate instead, watch the guys highest on the scoreboard. You'll pick up a lot of tips that way.

Technically, try and get a good framerate (turn off some graphics if you need to), but keep the resolution as high as possible, especially if youre ever going to be playing as a sniper. Keep your ping low. Use a good mouse, and bind the knife to one of the mouse buttons.

Practice...

SeantheMan

Best advice i can possibly give

Join a clan , doesnt have to be serious or Pr0Gamer clan, just a relaxed group

You'll quickly learn from being on ventrillo and teamspeak with your teammates and theyll help you along greatly

Trust me, best way to go

Sod'o swords

What you really need to do at the start is just run around like a headless chicken. It will get you used to controls and alike, yes you will die, alot, but it's the best thing to do at the start. Then after a while when you're starting to get the hang of things do what the rest of the lads are saying.
But for now HEADLESS CHICKEN!

smellslikeshoes

At the end of the day its all about practice, Ive only recently gotten to 55 so I'm by no means an expert but In the time its taken to get there Ive went from whimpering in the corner to being a reasonably competent player. And make Sure you enjoy the kills you do make because thats what will keep you coming back.

Cuddlesworth

Getting good at COD4 is the same as getting good at any other game.

Learn each weapons traits and utilise them.

The assault weapons in COD4 have small radiating recoil patterns with a small raise and medium damage for the most part. They all carry what would be medium damage in the game, meaning you need 3 or 4 direct hits to get a kill but are capable of doing this in a single burst.

The m16 will kill most people with a three round burst, if you are patient and take your time aiming you will nearly always pop a headshot and kill off.

The m4 is a great spray weapon, small 10 round bursts can easily take 1 or 2 targets at short medium distances.

The ak47 has a horrific upwards recoil, best used by tapping the trigger. Good damage, but not for starters.

The g3 and m14 are basically long range shots, if you are not comfortable with accurate shooting don't bother.


The smgs are basically split into 2 types, the short sprayer uzi, mac 10 and the small assult rifles, ak47su, mp5 and p90. The short is best used with a sprint boost/uav/health boost. Run around, try to get in behind and when you spot someone run at them and get in there face. The other guns are really just cheap versions of the assult rifles, except the p90 which is a great weapon. Feel free to spray with it as the 100 round mag and high ROF help when in sticky situations and the complete lack of recoil leaves dead bodys behind. Between 4-6 hits are needed to kill most people.

You should use the LMG's the same as they are used in real life, plonk yourself in a defensive position and wait. The second you spot someone, open up in short 3 second bursts. Feel free to follow them behind walls if they run. If you find people keep hiding in certain buildings(campers) fire a short spray across where they could be. If you see lines showing up on your crosshairs, move back to that spot as it means you hit somebody. I really think a lot of people playing don't realise the utility of LMG's at removing campers. There is no real effective defensive spot in COD4 if nades and LMGs are used properly. For kills 1-3 hits are needed, more from behind cover.

Snipers are very handy, its important to find a spot that provides a limited field of view because when your scoped your peripheral vision is removed. After 1 or two kills, bring your pistol out and move. The game is very fluid and safe spots don't stay safe for very long. Also remember that nearly every gun in COD4 is capable of hitting you as easy as you hit them, providing they know where you are. If you see somebody aim at you, pop a shot and run. Most times if you don't you will die. Damm pesky LMG's.

Adding to that you need to know about perks, perks make or break the game.

The top choices seem to be, health, damage, bullet penetration, martyrdom and last stand.


As said above you need to stay out of view, keep to the walls since it means you really only have to look 1 way. Keep mobile as well, after killing start moving again.

event

cool post above there mate

im playing since it came out, only level 30 but i dont play it that much, but that post covered loads, well done

one thing i was told at the start is dont be afraid to die. Now as a result, i die an awful lot in games, but i often kill a lot too

mehfesto2

That was great advice from Cuddlesworth there!

My main tip, is if like me you tend to prefare the Sniping weapons, be aware that some levels aren't designed for sniping. I'm not saying you won't get a good few kills, but it might be better to use an assault or LMG weapon in certain levels, such as the one with the narrow rooms (can't think of it's name right now).

And when sniping, plant you're claymore's around you wisely. They don't necessarily have to be up your arse. In the levels where you snipe from a building, place them outside the door and keep your ear honed in to hear when they explode. When it does, check (cautiously) to make sure there's nobody coming for you. It's best then to find a new sniping spot, as the enemy will be aware of your position.


Oh and on Shipment, use the x3 frag perk, the greater explosive damage perk and the matyrdom perk. When you spawn fling your frags in the eemy direction on the map, then set about shooting. Everyone will hate you, but I've scored over 80 on this level, mostly by doing this.

KamiKazi

mehfesto2 wrote: »

Oh and on Shipment, use the x3 frag perk, the greater explosive damage perk and the matyrdom perk. When you spawn fling your frags in the eemy direction on the map, then set about shooting. Everyone will hate you, but I've scored over 80 on this level, mostly by doing this.

OR you could learn to aim and come top of the scoreboard by shooting

Holsten

mehfesto2 wrote: »

Oh and on Shipment, use the x3 frag perk, the greater explosive damage perk and the matyrdom perk. When you spawn fling your frags in the eemy direction on the map, then set about shooting. Everyone will hate you, but I've scored over 80 on this level, mostly by doing this.

Haha, this is how you become a noob, not any type of good player.

Don't use noob perks, and you'll get better and better.

mehfesto2

All you 'purists', eh? If it's in the game, I'll use it. It's not like it's cheating, anyway!

When you're playing team games it makes sense. Far easier to clear a group then with you're gun. And when they're gone, you have to use your gun.

I played the level once with 6 players using this tactic. It was feckin' mental. Little grendae inicators all the time.

KamiKazi

mehfesto2 wrote: »

I played the level once with 6 players using this tactic. It was feckin' mental. Little grendae inicators all the time.

Yeah sounds great :rolleyes:

mehfesto2

Wow. Unnecessarry sarcasm on a forum. You're so funny! And original. I mean, I've never seen anyone do it before. How do you think of it, eh? You're really got this interweb thing down, my friend. You should be proud.



Anyway, to the more sensible people, that was my advice for a noob on Shipment. It wasnt my advice for everyone on every level. The extra kills this gives will help you level up and get your hands on some better weapons, at least.

I had left some other decent advice other than that, but there are just so many prats out there, waiting to pounce, eh? Ah well.

Cuddlesworth

From the layout I'm pretty sure shipment was meant for 1v1, max 2v2. Saying that, its just funny on the 50 player servers.

As for nades, if you want to get kills and you have very good radar awareness(can't believe nobody pointed that out as missing from the above post) you can get a amazing amount of kills. Which is why i personally dislike the by 3 nade perk. I do think it should have been placed in the third perk slot and limited to 2 nades. But thats a matter of personal preference and the thread is about getting good so I would recommend it in order to practice weeding people out of buildings and judging spawn rushs.

If you wanted to be a real prick you could practise and be one of the lads with the nade launcher who can take out 50% of the enemy team at spawn at the very beginning of S&D games on certain maps.

ShaneU

pfft, I'm level 3 prestige and I use the 3 grenade perk, does that make me a noob?

Cuddlesworth

KamiKazi wrote: »

OR you could learn to aim and come top of the scoreboard by shooting

Stop belittleing people, there are many great players out there who after many years are only above average shots. Instead they are amazing strategists and use the maps and predictability of their opponents to their advantage. Getting caught by nades a lot would be a good sign of the former.

Holsten wrote: »

Haha, this is how you become a noob, not any type of good player.

Don't use noob perks, and you'll get better and better.

Choosing to ignore better perks and loadouts on maps where they are arguably superior is tantamount to crippling your game. For example, Wetwork is a great example of a good player decimating a great player by nades.

KamiKazi

I wasn't try to belittle him I was pointing out the fact that spamming nades is the wrong way to get better.

A person new would be better off learning the choke points, where to aim etc.

ToughyIRE

ShaneU wrote: »

pfft, I'm level 3 prestige and I use the 3 grenade perk, does that make me a noob?

Yes, yes it does!

ToughyIRE

KamiKazi wrote: »

Yeah sounds great :rolleyes:

nice sarcasim +1

Keggers

I would give you advice but it would mean you giving up your social life and/or sleep:D

Dundhoone

Thats fine for levelling up, but its not going to improve your aim is it?

Spectate good players on a fairly quiet server, where you can first pick out good camp spots (yes I am ok with noobs camping) and later learn the maps well enough to know where to be pointing your gun when you are in a particular place.

ButcherOfNog

It's fairly simple, as with all things, just thing about what you are doing.

KamiKazi

ButcherOfNog wrote: »

It's fairly simple, as with all things, just thing about what you are doing.

yea, just thing about it

christophicus

Thinking helps too .

BostonB

KamiKazi wrote: »

OR you could learn to aim and come top of the scoreboard by shooting

Thats easy to say if you've got good pings and and a fast system. With a lesser connection and hardware, its impossible to be as accurate as those with better connections and hardware. Usually the latter will complain if people use any perks to level out this inequality in response time, in a game.

If you want to play a certain way don't play on public servers where its allowed. Even more annoying is setting up a server and letting everyone join then making up rules and kicking people who wander in not knowing the "rule of the day". Some clans seem to get a power trip out of this.

brian plank

BostonB wrote: »

Thats easy to say if you've got good pings and and a fast system. With a lesser connection and hardware, its impossible to be as accurate as those with better connections and hardware.

it is annoying when your shooting someone for a second and when they kill you it shows that you didnt even fire a shot on the kill cam.

ToughyIRE

Its also annoying shooting someone but missing due to them lagging across your screen.

BostonB

ToughyIRE wrote: »

Its also annoying shooting someone but missing due to them lagging across your screen.

My dire connection doesn't seem to stop you killing me again and again and ....:D

ToughyIRE

haha nice to know, next time join my team!:D

pirelli

mehfesto2 wrote: »

I had left some other decent advice other than that, but there are just so many prats out there, waiting to pounce, eh? Ah well.

We all have done it at some point in shipment. It is a great technique and when you have the enemy cornered they are doomed.


If you really want to finish them off, get the rpg hand grip ( means only the regular 1 nade) and get into position close to the enemy postion, and then if you manage to get a airstrike then you will probably be able end up getting a streak before inevitably getting killed and having to run all the way back.

Sohara

This thread is amazing, especially loved that part about the pro nades. Keep it up.:D

ScumLord

I used to get shot allot in the beginning but then I just said **** it and ran around like a mad man and it worked. Don't stop moving, once you fire your gun, move again everyone knows where you are.

Fear only makes sense in the real world, don't bother with self preservation just go for the kill.

Y2J_MUFC

AK47 with red dot sight will sort you right out. If your playing free-for-all try using the extra health perk too, and the deep impact or double fire. They'll help you stay alive for longer, and make your shots more effects/allow you to have more shots. Keep moving around too. If your sitting camping, then you'll won't get to see people very often and won't improve. You need to jump into the action even if it means you get a little raped at first....

Shiminay

I spent some time yesterday with a silenced P90, Bandolier, Juggernaut and Last Stand and it was almost too easy. Hadn't given silenced weapons the opportunity they deserved, but it's great to be able to sneak around more freely without worry of being shot whilst recovering by someone who's seen the firefight you just had with your now dead opponent on their radar.

Also: now that I've unlocked the extra frag grenades perk, I'm not so sure I want it that much Useful though for lobbing it on the far side of a corner you say an emeny walking into. Managed a few speculative kills like that.

BostonB

Some games will kick you for constant grenade attacks. I find it handy if you get stuck with the other team spawn camping. Smoke and a few grenades can give you a little space to get out of the trap.

On the maps with lots snipers and campers it can keep their heads down will you get through the chokes points and into the rear of the other team. When my pings are bad I do this as my shooting accuracy is terrible with low pings. Of course people with fast rigs and connections hate when you do this, as it levels the playing field a bit.

The P90 is deadly though.

brennaldo

estebancambias wrote: »

Ok I suck, and not just suck in an average sort of way, I'm God awful. Some guy shoots, I get disorientated and start shooting at anything. I am constantly getting knifed, and even though I have had a few lucky games where I might kill a few people, I generally spend my time wimpering in some dark corner readying myself for a sneak attack.

The problem is the damn guns.....When the hell can I get hold of those red dot guns?

So bascially I need some advice to make me the ultimate COD4 killing machine.

Signed
A very angry call of duty online person.

get 25 kills with a gun to get the red dot sight. get 75 for a silencer. and 150 for an acog scope (which in my opinion is rubbish)

Rb

brennaldo wrote: »

get 25 kills with a gun to get the red dot sight. get 75 for a silencer. and 150 for an acog scope (which in my opinion is rubbish)

Agreed, the acog is absolute pants.

BostonB

Thirded. Hate the acog. So annoying when you run out of ammo and you pickup a gun with it.

Shiminay

It's hilarious fitting it to an M60

BostonB

Kharn wrote: »

It's hilarious fitting it to an M60

I find the LMG's pretty much useless except for taking down choppers. Some people seem to be very accurate with them. I can't hit anything with them.

Mweelrea

Kharn wrote: »

I spent some time yesterday with a silenced P90, Bandolier, Juggernaut and Last Stand and it was almost too easy. Hadn't given silenced weapons the opportunity they deserved, but it's great to be able to sneak around more freely without worry of being shot whilst recovering by someone who's seen the firefight you just had with your now dead opponent on their radar.

Also: now that I've unlocked the extra frag grenades perk, I'm not so sure I want it that much Useful though for lobbing it on the far side of a corner you say an emeny walking into. Managed a few speculative kills like that.

I used to hate playing bloc until i started sneaking around with a silenced ak 47u and a uav jammer.

ToughyIRE

Mweelrea wrote: »

I used to hate playing bloc until i started sneaking around with a silenced ak 47u and a uav jammer.

cool! sounds good

r3nu4l

BostonB wrote: »

I find the LMG's pretty much useless except for taking down choppers. Some people seem to be very accurate with them. I can't hit anything with them.

LMG acuracy is increased by using the Grip perk. It is pretty amazing, use the RPD LMG with Grip and you will see the difference. Add stopping power and extreme conditioning and you can run and gun with an LMG :pac: (not as effectively as with an MP5 or mini-uzi etc but still great.)

BostonB

I think its just that my connection is so laggy I stick to the spray and pray weapons. I find it hard to be accurate with any weapon. Have to get in close and hit hard.

Shiminay

Are you just holding down the fire button or clicking every time you want a bullet to go? Click-and-spray will be wildly inaccurate where as a wee pause between shots (mid to long distance) will make for a much more accurate volley of shots and may result in a quicker kill and less chance of dying on reload against the next guy Short range, it's more forgiving as the bullets don't have the chance to get as wide of the mark.

Might be ways of improving your ping too, look at what's running on your machine and check what's using network traffic with your firewall.

BostonB

It happens like this, you put a sniper rifle on someone who isn't moving. Fire 3 or 4 shots at them, seemingly on target, they eventually realise someone is shooting at them, and they kill me, or maybe my 3rd or 4th shot kills them. Its the same with all weapons so I usually depend on weight of fire to kill people. Which means P90 close up. Basically it feels like your reaction times are off, you lose almost every knife fight etc. Its not every match, most matches though, occasionally I get a match where it doesn't happen and it all just works perfectly. That usually happens more the further off peak you are.

I don't actually have much stuff on the PC, and I have all automatic updates/scans set to manual. But any tips's please share.

pirelli

BostonB wrote: »

It happens like this, you put a sniper rifle on someone who isn't moving. Fire 3 or 4 shots at them, seemingly on target, they eventually realise someone is shooting at them, and they kill me, or maybe my 3rd or 4th shot kills them. Its the same with all weapons so I usually depend on weight of fire to kill people. Which means P90 close up. Basically it feels like your reaction times are off, you lose almost every knife fight etc. Its not every match, most matches though, occasionally I get a match where it doesn't happen and it all just works perfectly. That usually happens more the further off peak you are.

I don't actually have much stuff on the PC, and I have all automatic updates/scans set to manual. But any tips's please share.

Speedtest.com > check your internet connection speed and post here.

If you have a 1mb connection then your game upload will be twice as slow as if you had a 2MB.

I used to play COD4 with a 1mb and it took ages to load and sometmes there was lag and this effected play. I switched to 2Mb and the upload was very quick instant improvement and on some servers i could play for hours with no lag.

I dont know if your game improves with internet speed and i would be interested to know, but a good connection reduces lag and increase game upload speed. As i have only 2mb speed I would be dissappointed to discover that 6 mb or 8mb players get off shots quicker.

Sod'o swords

With out going into much detail i can give you one piece of advice that will most likely cut down on half of your deaths.

Don't run around corners, have patience!
So simple but yet so many people do it!

pirelli

Sod'o swords wrote: »

With out going into much detail i can give you one piece of advice that will most likely cut down on half of your deaths.

Don't run around corners, have patience!
So simple but yet so many people do it!

"Walk Dont run", corners are made to be got around.

Even sticking your head aound one could get it blown off, Running can actually save your life as you woosh by the sniper only sees a blur.



Should you loiter around corners? Probably should as you could also use it as cover to shoot from, but ideally you should use your stun grenades as you enter rooms or enter onto street's.