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14-04-2008 9:43am#1Fair play to the lads, in Blanch on saturday they tailed and pulled over a Latvian reg X5, spent all of 5 minutes chatting to the driver and then proceeded to take his keys and drive off in his motor
Not sure if this was a sting or random opportunity (I think more of a sting tho tbh as they didnt set up a checkpoint).
Nice one all the same. Too many EE reg'd cars cruising around the place without the worry of being stopped. Just a pity the customs are going for the high end stuff, if they had the man power they could be taking literally hundreds of cars off the road everyday.0
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If you know you are moving here then you are obliged to reregister it.
Numerous links, e.g.
http://www.movetoireland.com/movepag/carimprt.htm
If your an Irish resident with a car on non-irish plates then yes you have to change plates.
If your non Irish resident with a car on foreign plates then no.
You can work for 6 months and drive around in any EU registered car without hassle. You can even be paid in Sterling for that period of time, after that it gets a bit more complicated
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i think its time to get a cheap flight to poland and buy a 2 year old black 740i with blacked out windows, and buy a polish/english dictionary.
whats polish for "sorry officer, i don't speak english":D
You're not wrong - and here's another thing. Some of these cars could and maybe stolen. My brother lives on the continent was was offered a (red hot stolen)porche 911 for 4k on stolen polish plates. No BS...........and he tells me that there is lots of stolen foreign metal going around ireland.
Ever think about it - how would a building site labourer on 6 or 7hundred a week afford a big and quite new BM7series in Ireland, let alone his own "poorer"country?0 -
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A big problem is that there is no way of proving how long a vehicle has been in the country for.
Here's my idea:
Both the UK and Ireland (it would pointless unless both countries did this, on account of Northern Ireland), should introduce monitoring of all vehicles upon entry, regardless of the driver's intended duration of import (be it one day or permanently). The registration number (and possibly chassis number) should be recorded along with the date it comes in. Perhaps even intended address details for the driver / owner. The details should be put on a central database shared between both countries and accessible by the Gardai and Police. If the car is subsequently stopped for either a random check, Gardai / Police road block, or for any other reason, there is visibility of how long the vehicle has been in the Common Travel Area for, and therefore putting a stop to drivers who claim that they're here with their vehicle on a short term holiday.
Might it work do you think? I'm just thinking out loud really.. 0 -
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It will earn them stats which is valuable in terms of justifying budgets.Probably going for the high end stuff because the low end cars will net them bugger all in VRT!
If you plan on keeping a foreign registered vehicle here, then you can for up to twelve months but you must inform the VRO who presumably will place you on the National Driver File so that any offences can be traced.Yes, but the majority of Foreign reg plates are perfectly legal to drive on Irish roads, in fact you can drive for up to two years on them if you have ties at home and can prove it.
Once you have an address in the country and are registered there you should switch over. Each country in the EU has slightly different rules though, for example if your on the 30% ruling in Holland you can drive for 6 months and have to go out and come back in again.
Just looking at it from another perspective as i have an Irish reg and drive legally on dutch roads.
As it is a taxation matter, the VRO can easily say that VRT is payable on the original Irish retail price (as new) if the owner cannot prove when it was imported. Anyhow, a simple call to Irish Ferries will sort that out if really desired!A big problem is that there is no way of proving how long a vehicle has been in the country for.
Here's my idea:
Both the UK and Ireland (it would pointless unless both countries did this, on account of Northern Ireland), should introduce monitoring of all vehicles upon entry, regardless of the driver's intended duration of import (be it one day or permanently). The registration number (and possibly chassis number) should be recorded along with the date it comes in. Perhaps even intended address details for the driver / owner. The details should be put on a central database shared between both countries and accessible by the Gardai and Police. If the car is subsequently stopped for either a random check, Gardai / Police road block, or for any other reason, there is visibility of how long the vehicle has been in the Common Travel Area for, and therefore putting a stop to drivers who claim that they're here with their vehicle on a short term holiday.
Might it work do you think? I'm just thinking out loud really..0 -
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A big problem is that there is no way of proving how long a vehicle has been in the country for.
Here's my idea:
Both the UK and Ireland (it would pointless unless both countries did this, on account of Northern Ireland), should introduce monitoring of all vehicles upon entry, regardless of the driver's intended duration of import (be it one day or permanently). The registration number (and possibly chassis number) should be recorded along with the date it comes in. Perhaps even intended address details for the driver / owner. The details should be put on a central database shared between both countries and accessible by the Gardai and Police. If the car is subsequently stopped for either a random check, Gardai / Police road block, or for any other reason, there is visibility of how long the vehicle has been in the Common Travel Area for, and therefore putting a stop to drivers who claim that they're here with their vehicle on a short term holiday.
Might it work do you think? I'm just thinking out loud really..
Seems a bit excessive, the UK don't have VRT and are not raping their citizens to the Tune of E2Bn a year, so they would probably have no interest in implementing what would be a manpower heavy and massively expensive system to run. Ireland would need to track every car coming over the Border from the North, and judging by the amount of smuggling that used to go on, that is pretty hard!
On the Road/Motor tax debate. FFS, who cares what its called
:rolleyes:, its a tax to drive on the roads, you don't pay it if your car is off the road for 3 months do you?!
As someone mentioned if a person from another country has owned the car there for 6 months they are exempted. If you live in Ireland, you should be paying the same taxes we are, exorbitant as they are.
People are comparing prices to the UK as they are our closest neighbor. All well and good comparing us to the Dutch but look at their public transport and health service etc........
Finally, a lot of my issue with VRT is the Draconian way it is implemented. If you buy a NEW car in the UK, bring it in, you pay VRT. Fair enough. But you also pay VAT in the UK and if the car is less then 6 months old then you pay VAT here too. Not strictly a VRT issue, but double taxation all the same. Free Market my arse.:mad:
Taking other EU citizens cars off them on the side of the road if they are genuinely here less then the allowed time before re-registering is also hardly in the spirit of cooperation in the EU. As someone posted, it takes quite a bit of paperwork before the revenue let you register your car for 50 euro. If you don't have it on you and your car is "luxury" then I bet it gets swiped by customs easily.......0 -
neuromancer wrote: »Car insurance and NCT is a specific thing, the money generated from them goes towards what they are. Motortax doesn't..
es it does, it's a tax to own a motor vehicle. Nowhere is it said or implied it's a tax to fund road building.neuromancer wrote: »True. Many refer to motortax as "road-tax" or "car-tax", it's only use is that you NEED it to drive on the roads. Yet, most of it will never see a road. It's a stealth tax pure and simple then, for no use other than easy tax revenue. if it's going to be a tax for coffers, then why not call it VAT. Without the value of course.
Stealth tax? How so? It's open and honest about it's use and collection,not implied that it's for soemthing different or hidden in behind another tax.neuromancer wrote: »How much of government coffers spend on Port Tunnel to relieve City Centre conjestion? and it serves how much of the population.
LUAS? Oh yeah, serves how many people..
? Whats that got to do with anything?
Am I to assume the government should not build public transport and shoudl avoid building things that ease congestion?neuromancer wrote: »Wrong. You register a car in every country, where it's brought in as new owner. Are we the only greedy little county who fixes the price ot VRT, comparing it to the OMSP to tally up the "Tax".
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Your misunderstanding . YOU (as in you the person, pay VRT once here. If you decide to go to another country you have to abide by their rules and pay to re register it, but this isnt an issue because you will have owned the car and wont have to pay it twice.neuromancer wrote: »Some money can be saved from importing, mostly on older motors. Not so much on brand new models, unless there is a waiting list for them here. And fyi, the vast majority of top end models are seized by customs for VRT not paid. Why, cause it's cheaper to buy it across the water and not pay the VRT on it, because the car is more expensive here WITH VRT paid, or more expensive here anyway without extras that push up the price here, that comes as standard elsewhere in Europe.
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Do you make things up as you go along? We were talking about foreign people (mainly astern Europeans) comign in and not registerign their cars and the reasons for not doing so even though in most cases they will be VRT exempt.neuromancer wrote: »So?
A very exact emple of the above and the reasons for not registering your car.neuromancer wrote: »I'm not talking about accidents.
Yes you were. I used an example of a foreign reg'd car being involved in a hit and run to which you replied that could happen anywhere.On the Road/Motor tax debate. FFS, who cares what its called:rolleyes:, its a tax to drive on the roads, you don't pay it if your car is off the road for 3 months do you?!
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The name is fairly significant when the crux of the arguement being put forward is why we pay somehting called road tax that doesnt go towards roads.0 -
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This has gone slightly off the rails here :eek:
Plenty of people thinking its OK to drive around without getting rereg'd, if thats the case then why did they confiscate his X5
The more sensible are agreeing with the fact the car should be taxed / insured / NCT'd locally like the majority of other Irish road users.
Agree 100% with earlier poster who said car details should be recorded on arrival into the state.0 -
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A big problem is that there is no way of proving how long a vehicle has been in the country for.
Here's my idea:
Both the UK and Ireland (it would pointless unless both countries did this, on account of Northern Ireland), should introduce monitoring of all vehicles upon entry, regardless of the driver's intended duration of import (be it one day or permanently). The registration number (and possibly chassis number) should be recorded along with the date it comes in. Perhaps even intended address details for the driver / owner. The details should be put on a central database shared between both countries and accessible by the Gardai and Police. If the car is subsequently stopped for either a random check, Gardai / Police road block, or for any other reason, there is visibility of how long the vehicle has been in the Common Travel Area for, and therefore putting a stop to drivers who claim that they're here with their vehicle on a short term holiday.
Might it work do you think? I'm just thinking out loud really..
Sensible solution to the problem I think. Would give you in's and out's of a vehicle and remove the guess work by providing hard evidence. Also allow us to catch them for the e-tolls on the m50.0 -
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