People in car parks!

Lani

Hi guys, this is my first post but I felt I needed to rant somewhere!
I bought a 03 DC5 three weeks ago. Went to the gym Tuesday with it and parked in the near empty car park. When I came out there was a stripe of red paint on the drivers door where someone had backed into my car.
I got the paint off the door but there are now two small dents in the door. All I can see when I look at my car now is these f**king dents. I'm so pissed off! :mad:

JoeA3

Yeah, my personal pet peeve!! Ignorant idiots, you have my sympathies. My own car is immaculate apart from two marks on the passenger door... caused by plonkers in carparks. No matter where you park, it'll happen! I also got a particularly bad dent on my door last year and I got in touch with a Dent Magic guy, €60 and he did an amazing job. Dent gone. Only works if the paint isn't cracked though.

I find it helps prevention if you park in an end space (i.e. not between 2 cars), thereby halving the risk!

chris85

Lani wrote: »

Hi guys, this is my first post but I felt I needed to rant somewhere!
I bought a 03 DC5 three weeks ago. Went to the gym Tuesday with it and parked in the near empty car park. When I came out there was a stripe of red paint on the drivers door where someone had backed into my car.
I got the paint off the door but there are now two small dents in the door. All I can see when I look at my car now is these f**king dents. I'm so pissed off! :mad:

I know the feeling OP has happened to me before and wasnt happy and my car wasnt as good or new. There is a little device you can get to pull pull out dents. it may work but if there is a crease in the dent it wont as far as i know.

http://cgi.ebay.ie/SINGLE-DENT-PULLER-GLASS-CARRIER-LIFTER-SUCTION-CUP_W0QQitemZ190196228327QQihZ009QQcategoryZ30923QQcmdZViewItem

Lani

My boyfriend brought it to a panel beater this evening. He said there's nothing much he could do with it! I don't know why people can't be more careful!
My boss had his 08 mondeo for 3 days. Went for lunch and when he came out half his bumper was squashed in. The car next to him had also been damaged. Luckily a witness had left their number as she had seen a woman back into both cars and drive away!
I hate to say it, me being female and everything, but I think women drivers are much more prone to this than men!!!

Lucifer

If you can, post a picture of the dents to give us an idea of how bad they are. There are lots of dent removal services that can get rid of alot of dents. They may be able to do something and are not very expensive.

Kev

tossy

My sympathies lani nothing worse!!

If i go to tescos etc i always park as far away form anyone as i can,usually in an end space,parking beside 4X4s,SUVs etc is no no!!! it amazes me the amount of nice cars you see parked in between other cars where the potential is always there!!

I met a guy i know shopping in tesco one day in one of the aisles,and i pointed this out to him as i'd seen his mint MK1 GTI parked outside between two cars!!! :eek:

Steve

nothing worse - same thing happened to me:mad:

did you check if there were any security cams in the car park?

VeVeX

I have a car that spent 7 years in England without a blemish. Within 4 months of it being here there are two car park dents, one of them is fairly bad. In my opinion the majority of people have little respect for there own A-B machine so theres little point in expecting the decency to not bang off your car.

Want bugs me imencely is the inherent need for people to park beside another car. I always park as far away as posible from other cars in a car park but there always seems to be another driver that wants to park in the spot next to me about a foot away from my door. Taking into account there could be 20+ spaces around my car why park beside the car?




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congo_90

Its a nightmare! try drive out of a showroom in a 1 year old car... go to liffey valley in a ncie shiney car only to come back and find the paint scratched bare :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: oh i wasn't a happy camper that day. Immaculate finish destroyed. needed respray!

ImDave

Its a terrible feeling. I had my car parked in college a few weeks ago, and came out to find the back right lights smashed, and nice little scrape a few inches under it as well. lovely.

Blitzkrieger

Lani wrote: »

I think women drivers are much more prone to this than men!!!

They are. A leading German women's magazine caused outrage when they suggested women should carry a dustpan and handbrush in their car to clean up after "supermarket mishaps". Women are 10 times more likely to hit a stationary object. Contrary to popular belief they actually have more accidents than men.

You are a traitor to your sex though........
Youtube : possibly the worst ever

cabrwab

Oh jesus, the damage caused to me, parking in car parks
1) 08 van scratch 5inches long on front bumper. (not caused by me!)
2) my car 05 side dented and scraped and back door in a car park, as well as the paint on the mirror scraped off by a door being opened all these happened in a couple of months of getting the car

My aunt had a horrible time when she first got her x3 in 05, went into do shopping came out and back bumper had being practically ripped off, got it fixed month later same car park, exact same thing only this time the person left there number to get it fixed so they could pay.

r3nu4l

VeVeX wrote: »

I have a car that spent 7 years in England without a blemish.

Then you are obviously in the minority. My own car has been dented in the Lion Yard car park in Cambridge. I've had a white car leave some of it's paint on my car when it was parked in the Market Yard car park in Bury St Edmunds.

Ironically, I never had a single mark on my car when I parked it in Ireland and I regularly parked in Liffey Valley and Blanch Shopping centres, Jervis Street Car Park, the side of the road in Clonmel and Cahir...

I was lucky in Ireland, unlucky so far in England.

String

I work in a supermarket so know how you feel OP! Im on my first car and its only a crappy punto thankfully but after a week of working there i just use 2 parking places and park in the middle or use single line parking places! I got about 5 door hits and 1 scratch in my first week. Really does wreck my head! When I get my new car im going to do the same and park under cameras as often as I can.

Stealdo

Anyone else think that there's a sense in these people that says "If they can afford that nice car they can afford to get it fixed" when it comes up higher end cars? And then "sure it's only a banger anyway, no point in getting myself into trouble" when it's not? Either way they justify driving off.

I remember one Saturday morning a few years back I was playing a football match at my local sports club at the time when a woman absolutely smashed one of the guys cars knocking the rear bumper right off. She had to circle the car park to get out and a couple of us got to the exit before she did and stopped her (the guy who's car she hit happened to be a garda - bad luck!). The funny thing about it was she couldn't have been a nicer lady, was genuinely very ashamed by the fact that she had driven off and said that she just paniced when it happened. Still pissed the guy off no end, and I don't know how far he took it but I'd say she'd think twice about doing it again.

michelleans

Blitzkrieger wrote: »

Youtube : possibly the worst ever

I can't believe they took her handbag out first and she walks off like it happens everyday

We have always affixed tow bars to our cars, in the hope that if someone bumps us they suffer the most damage

workaccount

Is it not the case in France that they take the word bumper literally and use them for parking?

Tenzor07

Lani wrote: »

Hi guys, this is my first post but I felt I needed to rant somewhere!
I bought a 03 DC5 three weeks ago. Went to the gym Tuesday with it and parked in the near empty car park. When I came out there was a stripe of red paint on the drivers door where someone had backed into my car.
I got the paint off the door but there are now two small dents in the door. All I can see when I look at my car now is these f**king dents. I'm so pissed off! :mad:

I park my DC5 into those spots that have a path or wall to the back and/or to the left so as to avoid any carpark knocks..
I find that if you park in a more open space that people tend to park in beside you for some reason(with loads of empty spaces around)...Its always someone who swings in, mis-judges, scrapes the car and moves to another spot.. Ive also been known to take up 2 spaces in the work carpark!

pburns

I've had my share of problems - scratches on wing and bonnet where I think some kid stepped onto the car whilst climbing down a wall for example. More significently my car was broken into over X-mas while parked on the street. Over a grands worth of damage.

However...

Despite this and even though my car spends half it's life in carparks - train station/shopping centres etc., I honestly don't believe things are half as bad as most posters here are suggesting. Even at 50,000 miles/over 3 years hard use my car has few marks, certainly not enough to get wound up over.

There seems to be an assumption amongst a certain sub-species who are obsessed with spending their free time washing, waxing and polishing their cars that their vehicles should somehow be immune to the rough-and-tumble of daily life. Fact is over a 15-20000 mile year a car is gonna pick up a few tiny marks - stone chippings, car parks, tiny accidents etc. It ain't some concours exhibition piece (http://autopia.org/forum/car-show-concours/19321-show-car-vs-concours-car.html)

Even when my car was broken into i didn't whinge half as much as most here seem to be doing over what, in most cases, sound pretty insignificent marks.

Gegerty

I've had it done to me when I was sitting in the car. Bloke refused to accept resposibility saying it was there already. Needless to say he drove off, leaving me unable to exact revenge.

Just a small point on dent repairs, if its small enough you can get these suction things that pop the dent out. They sell them in the likes of Woodies, possibly Halfords.

Stealdo

pburns wrote: »

I've had my share of problems - scratches on wing and bonnet where I think some kid stepped onto the car whilst climbing down a wall for example. More significently my car was broken into over X-mas while parked on the street. Over a grands worth of damage.

However...

Despite this and even though my car spends half it's life in carparks - train station/shopping centres etc., I honestly don't believe things are half as bad as most posters here are suggesting. Even at 50,000 miles/over 3 years hard use my car has few marks, certainly not enough to get wound up over.

There seems to be an assumption amongst a certain sub-species who are obsessed with spending their free time washing, waxing and polishing their cars that their vehicles should somehow be immune to the rough-and-tumble of daily life. Fact is over a 15-20000 mile year a car is gonna pick up a few tiny marks - stone chippings, car parks, tiny accidents etc. It ain't some concours exhibition piece (http://autopia.org/forum/car-show-concours/19321-show-car-vs-concours-car.html)

Even when my car was broken into i didn't whinge half as much as most here seem to be doing over what, in most cases, sound pretty insignificent marks.

You're going to be popular round here!

I don't think people are complaining about the rough and tumble of daily life. I would completely accept that accidents happen etc, what most people are complaining about is the fact that people seem to think that it's acceptable to just drive away as if nothing happened having damaged a car in a car park. I would expect anyone who damages any of my property to inform me about it and offer to repair it.

SV

For future reference..

park across 2 spaces, like this;
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4319/carparklh8.jpg


sure people might call you an idiot or whatever, but they're not the ones getting their car ddneted and damaged. that helps a fair bit anyway!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

ClioV6 wrote: »

For future reference..

park across 2 spaces, like this;
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4319/carparklh8.jpg


sure people might call you an idiot or whatever, but they're not the ones getting their car ddneted and damaged. that helps a fair bit anyway!

You ARE an idiot if you deliberately park like that. I pray you don't drive with the same care and attention to the needs of others.

JoeA3

pburns wrote: »

I've had my share of problems - scratches on wing and bonnet where I think some kid stepped onto the car whilst climbing down a wall for example. More significently my car was broken into over X-mas while parked on the street. Over a grands worth of damage.

However...

Despite this and even though my car spends half it's life in carparks - train station/shopping centres etc., I honestly don't believe things are half as bad as most posters here are suggesting. Even at 50,000 miles/over 3 years hard use my car has few marks, certainly not enough to get wound up over.

There seems to be an assumption amongst a certain sub-species who are obsessed with spending their free time washing, waxing and polishing their cars that their vehicles should somehow be immune to the rough-and-tumble of daily life. Fact is over a 15-20000 mile year a car is gonna pick up a few tiny marks - stone chippings, car parks, tiny accidents etc. It ain't some concours exhibition piece (http://autopia.org/forum/car-show-concours/19321-show-car-vs-concours-car.html)

Even when my car was broken into i didn't whinge half as much as most here seem to be doing over what, in most cases, sound pretty insignificent marks.

A lot of sense there, but at the same time its pretty hard to swallow the "don't give a damn" attitude some people have towards others property. I know every car will suffer stone chips and the odd wear-and-tear mark, but its the ones inflicted by careless idiots that always bug me most. The odd scuff or scrape is much easier to live with if you inflict it yourself!

cpoh1

Angie Rapid Sharkskin wrote: »

You ARE an idiot if you deliberately park like that. I pray you don't drive with the same care and attention to the needs of others.

I park my car like that every time I use it in shopping centres, after having to get my two doors resprayed because of people smacking their own car doors and shopping trolleys off it. Id much prefer to have people call me an idiot and keep my €500 in my arse pocket in future.

workaccount

ClioV6 wrote: »

For future reference..

park across 2 spaces, like this;
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4319/carparklh8.jpg


sure people might call you an idiot or whatever, but they're not the ones getting their car ddneted and damaged. that helps a fair bit anyway!

You are unbelievable and don't deserve a driving licence.

workaccount

cpoh1 wrote: »

I park my car like that every time I use it in shopping centres, after having to get my two doors resprayed because of people smacking their own car doors and shopping trolleys off it. Id much prefer to have people call me an idiot and keep my €500 in my arse pocket in future.

People like you are the problem with the roads in this country.
What the hell is your problem?

You are the equivalent to the person who stopped in the middle of a roundabout last week during rush hour to give way to cars coming onto the roundabout. After about 10 cars started blowing at her she deliberately moves on going as slow as possible to cause disruption to the driver behind.

If I saw your car parked like that I'd love to scratch it (and very much enjoy doing it).

Cyrus

well arent you the scum of the earth then :mad:

who do you think you are scratching cars!!!!!!!!

i am furious reading this, people shouldnt take two spaces, but they shouldnt have been forced into it by the ignorance of others

workaccount

Cyrus wrote: »

well arent you the scum of the earth then :mad:

who do you think you are scratching cars!!!!!!!!

i am furious reading this, people shouldnt take two spaces, but they shouldnt have been forced into it by the ignorance of others

I'm not actually really because I was only messing

I'd love to do it though and certainly think they deserve it.....taking two spaces like that...the cheeky fuc**n pri*ks.

There more than idiots as one has suggested.

Posts updated to reflect reality....as rage has now died down.

Cyrus

even if the park is empty

i havent done it but starting to think about it, stop dopes parking beside me when there is no need!

DonJose

workaccount wrote: »

Your an asshole aswell. People like you are the problem with the roads in this country.

You are the equivalent to the person who stopped in the middle of a roundabout last week during rush hour to give way to cars coming onto the roundabout. After about 10 cars started blowing at her she deliberately moves on going as slow as possible to cause disruption to the driver behind.

If I saw your car parked like that I'd love to scratch it (and very much enjoy doing it).

Enough of the abuse!!!

Mr. Presentable

cpoh1 wrote: »

I park my car like that every time I use it in shopping centres, after having to get my two doors resprayed because of people smacking their own car doors and shopping trolleys off it. Id much prefer to have people call me an idiot and keep my €500 in my arse pocket in future.

What if everybody did that?

workaccount

DonJose wrote: »

Enough of the abuse!!!

Ok I've updated my posts but this is absolutely outrageous.

I always thought ppl did this because they were just completely stupid but to do it on purpose.........I just can't believe it.

I have to get out of this stupid country. What hope is there ever of having competent drivers on our roads?

I thought surely progress is being made very very slowly but this......it just brings everything back to the stone age.

cpoh1

workaccount wrote: »

People like you are the problem with the roads in this country.
What the hell is your problem?

You are the equivalent to the person who stopped in the middle of a roundabout last week during rush hour to give way to cars coming onto the roundabout. After about 10 cars started blowing at her she deliberately moves on going as slow as possible to cause disruption to the driver behind.

If I saw your car parked like that I'd love to scratch it (and very much enjoy doing it).

Sticks and stones my friend! Like i said ill happily take peoples poor opinion of my parking with the reassurance that my car wont be beaten to a pulp by some careless other parked next to me. Its a survival issue not an ignorance problem.

cpoh1

nipplenuts wrote: »

What if everybody did that?

If everybody did that it would mean that people are conscious of their car being damaged by others, and wouldn't do the same to others cars. As a result we wouldnt have the problem in th first place.

Im sure the OP is wishing she was parked in an isolated section of the car park taking up two spaces, she wouldnt have to fork out for her door now either.

In summary: saving €€€>>>>>>>>>>>>>>taking up one extra car space

workaccount

cpoh1 wrote: »

Its a survival issue not an ignorance problem.

What kind of nonsense is this?

Eh.....ppl's opinions of you is the least I'd be worrying about...you are causing disruption.
Things like this drive ppl nuts.....but I suppose it's all about survival isnt it?

How selfish can you get?

Blut

You're probably more likely to get scrapes parking like that in a busy car park than parking properly normally anyway I'd say. Most of the car park incidents I've witnessed have been from people trying to squeeze their car into a space too small for it due to a lack of other spaces available and subsequently knocking off neighbouring cars.

cpoh1

workaccount wrote: »

What kind of nonsense is this?

Eh.....ppl's opinions of you is the least I'd be worrying about...you are causing disruption.
Things like this drive ppl nuts.....but I suppose it's all about survival isnt it?

How selfish can you get?

Im not in the least bit concerned to be honest, sorry if that offends you. I feel its much more important to preserve a car i have spent thousands on in immaculate condition than leave some shopper who *may* ding my car with the inconvenience of simply using another parking spot.

workaccount

cpoh1 wrote: »

Im not in the least bit concerned to be honest, sorry if that offends you. I feel its much more important to preserve a car i have spent thousands on in immaculate condition than leave some shopper who *may* ding my car with the inconvenience of simply using another parking spot.

If your so "I don't care what other ppl think" why don't you just stick a load of foam on the side of the car with a big sign?

Your assuming above that there is another parking space available?

String

Every day I see idiots swing open the door and hit somebody else's car and then just jump in the car as fast as possible and drive off. Nothing wrong with using 2 spots especially if the car park is empty. I usually use a car spot with only one next to it and park as far to the line or the wall as possible.

pburns

cpoh1 wrote: »

I feel its much more important to preserve a car i have spent thousands on in immaculate condition than leave some shopper who *may* ding my car with the inconvenience of simply using another parking spot.

I thought my post above criticising this car-nannying behavior would make me more unpopular but it seems most boardies seem to have more common-sense than I credited them for...

You, sir, however are EXACTLY the type of anally retentive, self-centred perfectionist who will trample over the needs of others as long as your precious possession is maintained to you own self-imposed, unrealistic, scruplously high standard.

Like I said, I've parked in a multitude of car parks over many years and haven't encountered a fraction of these problems and when I did i took it on the chin - that's life! Sure if I was dumb enough to run about waving my arms in the air over every miniscule scratch/ding I too would have "spent thousands" on keeping my car in "immaculate condition". Unlike you it appears I have more important things in my life however.

You are either a troll or a moron.

Or perhaps both...

Cyrus

no he is not,

why should people put up with other people damaging their posessions? maybe you arent into cars, thats fine then you dont understand, but say for example you liked watches, and you have a nice watch that took you a few years to save up for and buy, would it be ok for some to scratch the crystal or ding the case?

You, sir, however are EXACTLY the type of anally retentive, self-centred perfectionist who will trample over the needs of others as long as your precious possession is maintained to you own self-imposed, unrealistic, scruplously high standard.

and you are the type who would open his door into someone elses car and not care, and drive away after without a care in the world.

JHMEG

cpoh1 wrote: »

Sticks and stones my friend! Like i said ill happily take peoples poor opinion of my parking with the reassurance that my car wont be beaten to a pulp by some careless other parked next to me. Its a survival issue not an ignorance problem.

Fair balls to you. I do the same, all the time. The ignorant fúcks are the people who have damaged my passenger door to the point where it needs a respray.

If I could trust other people to be careful enough to show me the courtesy I show them then I would take up one space. The don't, so I'll keep taking two spaces. Tough shít if you disagree..

BTW Cyrus, well said.

workaccount

Cyrus wrote: »

no he is not,

why should people put up with other people damaging their posessions? maybe you arent into cars, thats fine then you dont understand, but say for example you liked watches, and you have a nice watch that took you a few years to save up for and buy, would it be ok for some to scratch the crystal or ding the case?



and you are the type who would open his door into someone elses car and not care, and drive away after without a care in the world.

JHMEG wrote: »

Fair balls to you. I do the same, all the time. The ignorant fúcks are the people who have damaged my passenger door to the point where it needs a respray.

If I could trust other people to be careful enough to show me the courtesy I show them then I would take up one space. The don't, so I'll keep taking two spaces. Tough shít if you disagree..

BTW Cyrus, well said.

I always assumed that people hanging around on these forums were real drivers...real car enthusiasts.....how wrong I was.

You guys have absolutely no idea what it is to be a real driver. Your just another one of the majority of inconsiderate drivers on the road that could not give the slightest damn about other people, learning the rules of the road or improving the public perception of driving.

The reality is that doing what you are doing damages they way people perceive driving in this country and we already have a bad name as being a nation of sh*t drivers. What chance do we have with the likes of ye around the place???

A real driver will always do whatever it takes to improve the perception of driving...fair enough he might blow the horn or get pissed off to point of shouting out the window at a dumbass driver (theres hardly any point with these - there hopeless) but if he sees a good driver on the road he shows respect and the other appreciates and thats a great feeling.

You guys know absolutely nothing about this and can never call yourself an enthusiast or a competent driver.

I suppose this is just the kind of rubbish you have to deal with in a mainstream motors forum.
Imagine reading this in a dedicated motoring site. :eek: or even hearing about it on top gear?? Jeremy would personally escort you out if you admitted such a thing on his show and you'd be getting a good kick at the end of that walk for sure deservedly.

cpoh1

workaccount wrote: »

I always assumed that people hanging around on these forums were real drivers...real car enthusiasts.....how wrong I was.

You guys have absolutely no idea what it is to be a real driver. Your just another one of the majority of inconsiderate drivers on the road that could not give the slightest damn about other people, learning the rules of the road or improving the public perception of driving.

The reality is that doing what you are doing damages they way people perceive driving in this country and we already have a bad name as being a nation of sh*t drivers. What chance do we have with the likes of ye around the place???

A real driver will always do whatever it takes to improve the perception of driving...fair enough he might blow the horn or get pissed off to point of shouting out the window at a dumbass driver (theres hardly any point with these - there hopeless) but if he sees a good driver on the road he shows respect and the other appreciates and thats a great feeling.

You guys know absolutely nothing about this and can never call yourself an enthusiast or a competent driver.

I suppose this is just the kind of rubbish you have to deal with in a mainstream motors forum.
Imagine reading this in a dedicated motoring site. :eek: or even hearing about it on top gear?? Jeremy would personally escort you out if you admitted such a thing on his show and you'd be getting a good kick at the end of that walk for sure deservedly.

So what you're saying is a "real" car enthusiast is someone who doesnt mind their car being damaged through other peoples ignorance? Get real pal. All my mates that keep their cars in top condition all park in a corner of a car park out of the way taking up 2 spaces.

When you have spent over 8 grand on your car bringing it back to as new condition and have it chipped away at in a matter of months to the extent that it needs two panels filled and sprayed come back to me.

To be quite honest you are talking pure anad utter horse****e to compare me preserving my car from ignorant and clumsy drivers to having poor manners on the road. As far as im concerned its the people damaging others cars that has the problem, as long as people keep doing it then ill keep parking the way I do to keep my car in top condition.

Id be interested to know what your own pride and joy is to have so little concern for its general upkeep?

workaccount

cpoh1 wrote: »

So what you're saying is a "real" car enthusiast is someone who doesnt mind their car being damaged through other peoples ignorance? Get real pal. All my mates that keep their cars in top condition all park in a corner of a car park out of the way taking up 2 spaces.

I didn't say that. That's just stupid now, isnt it?

cpoh1 wrote: »

When you have spent over 8 grand on your car bringing it back to as new condition and have it chipped away at in a matter of months to the extent that it needs two panels filled and sprayed come back to me.

Ring around for a quote the next time....you should get a better deal than 8 grand for a few door resprays.

cpoh1 wrote: »

To be quite honest you are talking pure anad utter horse****e to compare me preserving my car from ignorant and clumsy drivers to having poor manners on the road. As far as im concerned its the people damaging others cars that has the problem, as long as people keep doing it then ill keep parking the way I do to keep my car in top condition.

I'm not really comparing the two....I'm just saying your not a "real" driver....when I say "real" I mean you just don't have the spirit. Find something your good at and have abit of mindfulness for others. Sure theres some dumbasses out there but your on the same level as them. You let yourself become one of them. You just don't have the spirit mate!!!

blorg

You guys all need to go live in Italy, south of Rome ;-)

Personally I would be very careful and left a note and paid for the repairs on the one occasion I knocked into someone (he was _very_ good about it, TBH I think he was amazed both that the damage was possible and that I didn't just run.)

BTW that occasion was on a (push) bike, as he called it.

JHMEG

workaccount wrote: »

A real driver will always do whatever it takes to improve the perception of driving...

Where did you come up with that garbage from?

A real driver will have a good car and make the effort to keep it well.

Perception me arse.:rolleyes:

workaccount wrote: »

I'm not really comparing the two....I'm just saying your not a "real" driver...

cpoh1 isn't a real driver for what reason exactly.. cos he takes 2 parking spaces? Have you seen the cars cpoh1 has owned? If anyone on this forum is to be called a car enthusiast it's him. He has one of the few truly impressive car histories.

Steve

workaccount wrote: »

You guys have absolutely no idea what it is to be a real driver. Your just another one of the majority of inconsiderate drivers on the road that could not give the slightest damn about other people, learning the rules of the road or improving the public perception of driving.

The reality is that doing what you are doing damages they way people perceive driving in this country and we already have a bad name as being a nation of sh*t drivers. What chance do we have with the likes of ye around the place???

A real driver will always do whatever it takes to improve the perception of driving...fair enough he might blow the horn or get pissed off to point of shouting out the window at a dumbass driver (theres hardly any point with these - there hopeless) but if he sees a good driver on the road he shows respect and the other appreciates and thats a great feeling.

You guys know absolutely nothing about this and can never call yourself an enthusiast or a competent driver.

I suppose this is just the kind of rubbish you have to deal with in a mainstream motors forum.
Imagine reading this in a dedicated motoring site. :eek: or even hearing about it on top gear?? Jeremy would personally escort you out if you admitted such a thing on his show and you'd be getting a good kick at the end of that walk for sure deservedly.

what absolute shite that is.

If someone bangs a shopping trolley into your Hi-ace and you don't care - fine.

I happen to care about my car and will gladly take up two spaces in a car park if it means that I won't have a door damaged beyond repair by some bastard who hadn't even the courtesy to own up side swiping my car.:mad::mad::mad:

* sorry about the colourful metaphors - this infuriates me.

Cyrus

workaccount wrote: »

I always assumed that people hanging around on these forums were real drivers...real car enthusiasts.....how wrong I was.

You guys have absolutely no idea what it is to be a real driver. Your just another one of the majority of inconsiderate drivers on the road that could not give the slightest damn about other people, learning the rules of the road or improving the public perception of driving.

The reality is that doing what you are doing damages they way people perceive driving in this country and we already have a bad name as being a nation of sh*t drivers. What chance do we have with the likes of ye around the place???

A real driver will always do whatever it takes to improve the perception of driving...fair enough he might blow the horn or get pissed off to point of shouting out the window at a dumbass driver (theres hardly any point with these - there hopeless) but if he sees a good driver on the road he shows respect and the other appreciates and thats a great feeling.

You guys know absolutely nothing about this and can never call yourself an enthusiast or a competent driver.

I suppose this is just the kind of rubbish you have to deal with in a mainstream motors forum.
Imagine reading this in a dedicated motoring site. :eek: or even hearing about it on top gear?? Jeremy would personally escort you out if you admitted such a thing on his show and you'd be getting a good kick at the end of that walk for sure deservedly.

I cannot believe what you have taken the time to type, are you demented? Go to the irish bmw or vag site, you'll find a load of enthusiasts there that feel the same as we do, no car enthusiast buys a car to have some oaf drive into it or dent it! You are typical of the ignorance and lack of respect in this country

workaccount

JHMEG wrote: »

cpoh1 isn't a real driver for what reason exactly.. cos he takes 2 parking spaces? Have you seen the cars cpoh1 has owned? If anyone on this forum is to be called a car enthusiast it's him. He has one of the few truly impressive car histories.

He's not a "real driver" as he has no regard or respect for other drivers by using two spaces. He may own impressive cars....I don't know....so then he's a good car owner or has good taste in cars....as regards driving them and ettiquette...does not exist.

I mean jeeeeeeeeeesus......using two spaces should be the one of the cardinal rules of driving ettiquette.

How can you honestly be a good driver if you do this????

JHMEG wrote: »

Perception me arse.:rolleyes:

What do you mean by "perception me arse"?
If you are a "real" driver you will of course want to improve the perception of driving in your country. Like sport or anything in life.....be your best. Don't lower yourself to the level of other dumbasses.

stevec wrote: »

what absolute shite that is.

If someone bangs a shopping trolley into your Hi-ace and you don't care - fine.

I happen to care about my car and will gladly take up two spaces in a car park if it means that I won't have a door damaged beyond repair by some bastard who hadn't even the courtesy to own up side swiping my car.:mad::mad::mad:

* sorry about the colourful metaphors - this infuriates me.

Oh jesus another one. Were fu*ked.